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Title: Friendly Fire?
Post by: Noah17 on October 03, 2009, 10:44:11 AM
Is it possible to get shot down by a friendly?

I've saved the film. This morning while going HO towards a P-47 that was being chase by 4 friendlies I got shot down. But the P-47s' fire was not anywhere close to me. In fact it looks like I got hit by the fire of a friendly (Nemesis in his P-38). He's firing at the P-47 but well behind him. It looks like I fly into the stream of his bullets and my elevators get shot off. I then crash and get the message from the administrator that I have crashed but it doesn't say anyone shot me down.
Then I go to look at the scores and it says I was shot down by a "Chute."
Isn't there something called "killshooter?" I didn't think it was possible to get killed by a friendly aircraft.....
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: fuzeman on October 03, 2009, 10:46:48 AM
IN FSO or some special events you can be killed by friendly fire. In all AH main arenas, EW, MW, LW, Killshooter should be enabled making a friendly take damage if he shoots a countryman.
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: Lusche on October 03, 2009, 10:48:07 AM
I've saved the film. .


Posting it here could help.
(If you don't know how: Upload it to a filehosting site like mediafire.com, then put the link to the file into your post)

And in special events killshooter may be off.
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: SIK1 on October 03, 2009, 10:48:36 AM
In the MA you cannot get shot down by a friendly. You can however shoot yourself down by shooting at a friendly.
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: Noah17 on October 03, 2009, 11:01:42 AM
Maybe while firing at the P-47 I hit a friendly?......
 :cry
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: Blooz on October 03, 2009, 11:28:31 AM
Yes. If the P47 that you were HO to was being chased by four friends and you shot..you probably hit a friendly behind him and shot yourself down.
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 03, 2009, 12:20:53 PM
While you can't get shot down by a friendly plane or ground vehicle, you can get shot down by friendly field or CV acks.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: uptown on October 03, 2009, 02:05:01 PM
I've had a flap blown off by a friendly manned gun and have been killed by my own boat ack.It's not supposed to happen, but it does rarely.
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: CAP1 on October 04, 2009, 05:53:53 PM
Is it possible to get shot down by a friendly?

I've saved the film. This morning while going HO towards a P-47 that was being chase by 4 friendlies I got shot down. But the P-47s' fire was not anywhere close to me. In fact it looks like I got hit by the fire of a friendly (Nemesis in his P-38). He's firing at the P-47 but well behind him. It looks like I fly into the stream of his bullets and my elevators get shot off. I then crash and get the message from the administrator that I have crashed but it doesn't say anyone shot me down.
Then I go to look at the scores and it says I was shot down by a "Chute."
Isn't there something called "killshooter?" I didn't think it was possible to get killed by a friendly aircraft.....

most likely, you killshot yourself on one of the p47's pursuers.

 i just the other night, was pulling for a beautiful deflection shot on a 109, and a friendly comes barreling in, just after i squeezed the trigger. i saw a nice burst hit hte friendly, no other cons in the area, and i took a bunch of hits...and sprung a fuel leak.
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: Noah17 on October 05, 2009, 05:45:27 PM
I'll be much more careful next time........ Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: OOZ662 on October 05, 2009, 05:51:20 PM
I've had a flap blown off by a friendly manned gun and have been killed by my own boat ack.It's not supposed to happen, but it does rarely.

Manned guns don't deal friendly damage (ever) unless Killshooter is turned off. Automatic AA weapons will, however.
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: smedddd on October 06, 2009, 02:34:13 PM
I once kill shot myself by firing HE at an enemy hanger as a friendly M-3 drove by.  :mad:

Live and learn, die and re-spawn.

-jink
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 06, 2009, 02:46:32 PM
I once kill shot myself by firing HE at an enemy hanger as a friendly M-3 drove by.  :mad:

Live and learn, die and re-spawn.

-jink

there have been a few times where I've killshot myself firing a 75 mm round at a tank only to have it ricochet and hit a friendly plane flying over head.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: uptown on October 06, 2009, 09:41:05 PM
Manned guns don't deal friendly damage (ever) unless Killshooter is turned off. Automatic AA weapons will, however.
yes i knew that. don't know what i was thinking. it happened only once to me and while i was taking off in a 262 of all things.  :mad:
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: haggerty on October 27, 2009, 07:28:14 PM
there have been a few times where I've killshot myself firing a 75 mm round at a tank only to have it ricochet and hit a friendly plane flying over head.


ack-ack

I have done the same thing...nothing you can do but laugh as your plane is split into two.
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: SPKmes on October 27, 2009, 07:50:38 PM
Yes. If the P47 that you were HO to was being chased by four friends and you shot..you probably hit a friendly behind him and shot yourself down.

on this...if you have this situation and you hit each friendly once...and for argument sake the left wing...do you then only register the one hit ? (presuming you are a crack shot and get the same spot on each)
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: Agent360 on October 27, 2009, 08:01:08 PM
I just want to know why it is necessasry to HO an enemy being chased by 4 other guys???????????????

Thats pretty lame

Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: Noah17 on October 28, 2009, 05:40:32 AM
Not really necessary to restart an old thread just to give me a hard time......Especially when I'm new to the game and don't know much about it. It  was an honest question on my part. When I said HO I meant that  we were "head to head."  Otherwise known as a merge........I had no initial intention of taking the head on shot.

In this case I was low/slow and the 47 was diving on me. He started firing at me first and it was just a reaction on my part. His  fire looked closer too me than it actually was until I looked at the film. The guys chasing him were not directly behind him. That's why I was so confused as to why I got shot down.

Again, how old is this thread and why did you feel the need to throw in the negative 2 cents?
I respect your opinion and the films you've posted to help others out but there's no need for that.

Constructive  criticism  is good.....anything else  is actually lame....
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: Agent360 on October 30, 2009, 01:58:48 AM
I saw the thread at the top. Somebody else brought it from the dead. I didnt see that. If I had I prob wouldnt have posted.

Of course ho'ing  a ganged up con is lame. I am sure you agree. That was my only point.

S!
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: Noah17 on October 31, 2009, 06:00:38 AM
No Problem.
 :salute
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: The Fugitive on October 31, 2009, 08:44:21 AM
Not really necessary to restart an old thread just to give me a hard time......Especially when I'm new to the game and don't know much about it. It  was an honest question on my part. When I said HO I meant that  we were "head to head."  Otherwise known as a merge........I had no initial intention of taking the head on shot.

In this case I was low/slow and the 47 was diving on me. He started firing at me first and it was just a reaction on my part. His  fire looked closer too me than it actually was until I looked at the film. The guys chasing him were not directly behind him. That's why I was so confused as to why I got shot down.

Again, how old is this thread and why did you feel the need to throw in the negative 2 cents?
I respect your opinion and the films you've posted to help others out but there's no need for that.

Constructive  criticism  is good.....anything else  is actually lame....



My guess as to why he may have posted....

He knew you where a new guy and as he is more of a vet who believes pure fighting is one of the better things to do in this game, used his comments to point out poor game play to start a conversation with you. Once he has your attention, you may learn from him that such a move is rather lame and that there are a number of better option that have could have saved you, or got you to a position to really have a fight.

Instead of asking question of one of the better sticks in the game you blow him off and give him crap about his post. So instead of getting help you get his post.

Of course, these are only what "I" think he may have been thinking.
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: Noah17 on October 31, 2009, 10:02:19 AM
This is a little silly.

Fugitive, if you read my last post Agent 360 and I are cool. I understood his last post, said "no problem" and gave him a salute. I realize he is one of the better pilots here. In my prior post I said I respected his opinion and appreciated his suggestions/films to others as they have been helpful.

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He knew you where a new guy and as he is more of a vet who believes pure fighting is one of the better things to do in this game, used his comments to point out poor game play to start a conversation with you. Once he has your attention, you may learn from him that such a move is rather lame and that there are a number of better option that have could have saved you, or got you to a position to really have a fight.

In his post there was no suggestion on how to better fight someone, or anything other than me doing something "lame." Nobody needs to make a negative comment to get my attention, If someone reply's to a post I made they have my attention. He admitted he didn't read the earlier part of the thread I understood and said no problem.

I didn't get his post as a result of "blowing him off" or "giving anyone crap" I hadn't gotten any post from him prior to that. I said that it wasn't constructive.....

You're comments aren't necessary or appropriate if you haven't read/understood what's going on.

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Of course, these are only what "I" think he may have been thinking.

I'm sure he doesn't need you to think for him.
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: The Fugitive on October 31, 2009, 10:40:27 AM
Not really necessary to restart an old thread just to give me a hard time......Especially when I'm new to the game and don't know much about it. It  was an honest question on my part.

This is giving him crap. Had you looked back you would have noticed it was haggerty who bumped the thread.

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When I said HO I meant that  we were "head to head."  Otherwise known as a merge........I had no initial intention of taking the head on shot.

A waste of energy if you hadn't planned on taking a shot...which you did hence the "killshooter" death Just getting skinny and giving the passing enemy as small a profile to hit would have been a much better option.

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In this case I was low/slow and the 47 was diving on me. He started firing at me first and it was just a reaction on my part. His  fire looked closer too me than it actually was until I looked at the film. The guys chasing him were not directly behind him. That's why I was so confused as to why I got shot down.


again a poor choice, one that a new player could easily turn into a poor habit

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Again, how old is this thread and why did you feel the need to throw in the negative 2 cents?

ahhhh look some more crap!

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I respect your opinion and the films you've posted to help others out but there's no need for that.

Constructive  criticism  is good.....anything else  is actually lame....


His criticism was constructive, as was mine. He pointed out that the move was lame as he again pointed it out in the second post.

Had you NOT taken offense at his post... which we know you did but ignoring the fact that 2 posters BEFORE him hand bumped the thread... you might have instead asked him how he might have handled the situation and there by learned something. Instead you got pissed off and posted as you did. Yes you backed down and feel you are good with him, which is ok.

My posting on the other hand points out that you acted a fool and blew off an opportunity to learn something from one of the better sticks because you let your temper get the better of you. Hopefully some other player may read this and learn by your mistake and ask instead of blowing up.

oh, and I wasn't thinking for him, I was posting what I thought he was saying in the post. Big difference.
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: Noah17 on October 31, 2009, 12:27:39 PM
 :salute
Title: Re: Friendly Fire?
Post by: haggerty on October 31, 2009, 01:06:38 PM
Didnt mean to bump it! it was on the first page...I guess posts in this forum are a little slow