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Title: Country ENY
Post by: vonKrimm on October 04, 2009, 12:02:37 AM
I was in EW and there were 6 Bish, 0 Nits, & 2 Rooks on; country ENY respectively for each was 0, 0 ,0.  Now I switched to Nit from Rook  (so 6B,1N,1R) just to see what would happen and the ENYs became 10.9, 0, 0 respectively.  This is outrageous, unconscionable and inequitable!  Why was there no ENY (value greater than 0) assigned to the Bish (maybe to the Rooks also)?

HTC, it is my opinion that there should be an ENY in effect when 1 country has 0 players on and the other 2 chess pieces do have players on; make the score-tards work for it, especially in-light of the time ya'll took to code the new ENY & OBJ values for the plane set.

Thank you for taking the time to read my rant.
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 04, 2009, 12:10:34 AM
A whine has been recorded.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: uptown on October 04, 2009, 12:16:25 AM
2.5 bish = 1 average player  :D
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: vonKrimm on October 04, 2009, 12:34:40 AM
A whine has been recorded.


ack-ack

Thank you for your insightful, well-crafted, and helpful reply.  A check will be sent in the amount commensurate with the value of your post.

2.5 bish = 1 average player  :D

That is so mean.  Not saying it is un-true, just mean.  :rofl
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: boomerlu on October 04, 2009, 01:49:52 AM
That is so mean.  Not saying it is un-true, just mean.  :rofl
I'm curious about a few things:
1) Is there actually a noticeable skill difference between countries? I have to think that every country complains about its tards.
2) Is there a default country you are automatically made a part of when you join? If there is, it could explain your comment (I was "assigned" to Bish when I first joined).

Just wondering.
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: AWwrgwy on October 04, 2009, 03:17:26 AM
There is obviously no ENY penalty when one country is zero because there is no one on to benefit.

The logical alternative would be to make an "empty" country's bases uncapturable, as there is no one to capture them from.

The "loop-hole" would be to have one of your countrymen switch to the empty side and sit by whit his new country is rolled.

Tacky.

 :uhoh


wrongway
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: vonKrimm on October 04, 2009, 11:14:18 AM
There is obviously no ENY penalty when one country is zero because there is no one on to benefit.

The logical alternative would be to make an "empty" country's bases uncapturable, as there is no one to capture them from.

The "loop-hole" would be to have one of your countrymen switch to the empty side and sit by whit his new country is rolled.

Tacky.

 :uhoh


wrongway

Hmm.  Had never looked at it as a "benefit" for the other two countries; I'd always viewed i9t as a "penalty" for the country with the horde of players on.  Interesting POV there that you give us.
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: AKP on October 04, 2009, 11:30:16 AM
I'm curious about a few things:
1) Is there actually a noticeable skill difference between countries? I have to think that every country complains about its tards.
2) Is there a default country you are automatically made a part of when you join? If there is, it could explain your comment (I was "assigned" to Bish when I first joined).

Just wondering.

1) No... every country has good players, and bad ones.  It just depends on who is on at the time.
2) Not that I am aware of.  I think the first time you sign on you are randomly assigned to a team.  If I am wrong, I am SURE someone will correct me though  :lol
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: batch on October 04, 2009, 12:13:57 PM
There is obviously no ENY penalty when one country is zero because there is no one on to benefit.

This would explain it except for the fact that he said 6B and 2R that would make 75% Bish and there should have been ENY because Rooks would benefit. 
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: ImADot on October 04, 2009, 12:16:11 PM
Yep, the best way to screw the high-number side if one country has zero players is to switch to the zero-number side - then ENY kicks in.

Yep, the very first time you create an account and go online, you are assigned to a default country (not sure if it's Bish or what...might be "country 0").  Once you've been in an arena and chosen a side, next time you come back to that arena, you'll be on the side you last were when you left that arena.
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: ACE on October 04, 2009, 01:11:20 PM
Waiting on ack's reply :)
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 04, 2009, 02:56:18 PM
Waiting on ack's reply :)

Why reply?  It's just another whine about the ENY amongst  thousands of other ones.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: Hap on October 04, 2009, 02:58:34 PM
eny & caps dull AH.
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: EskimoJoe on October 04, 2009, 03:37:45 PM
Why reply?  It's just another whine about the ENY amongst  thousands of other ones.


ack-ack
Well said, sir  :aok
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: R 105 on October 04, 2009, 03:53:58 PM
I am not sure if the Bishops are a default country or not when a new person joins Aces high. It seems like we have many more zip code players on the rooster then the Rooks and Knights. This would explain why we as Bishops have so few defenders at a base and always the same few guys trying to hold it in LW. Even when we have a large number advantage we are still out numbered at a base under attack. But years ago I was a Rook and it looked the same to me from the Rook side too. So maybe it is how it is in all countries regardless if one country is a default country or not. Ones own perception is not always fact or so I hear.
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: stroker71 on October 04, 2009, 04:00:46 PM
The first time you sign on into any of the arenas you are put on the low number side.  Eny works the best it can in the form we have now.  There are no changes that can improve ENY and how it works....please move along!

DuHasst
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: vonKrimm on October 04, 2009, 05:10:18 PM
The first time you sign on into any of the arenas you are put on the low number side.  Eny works the best it can in the form we have now.  There are no changes that can improve ENY and how it works....please move along!

DuHasst

Nice thinking-box you have there.  Very square, opaque, and rigid it appears to be from here.
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: Messiah on October 04, 2009, 06:42:50 PM
This is outrageous, unconscionable and inequitable!


This is madness!
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: Bronk on October 04, 2009, 06:51:40 PM
This is madness!

Space madness?
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: WMLute on October 04, 2009, 07:14:28 PM
Space madness?

(http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/3006/redbtn1.jpg)
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: boomerlu on October 04, 2009, 07:14:43 PM
This is madness!
No, this is Sparta.
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: crazyivan on October 04, 2009, 07:42:00 PM
This is madness!
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n108/kakashiluver_2006/Sparta/1174182116317.jpg)
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: sandwich on October 04, 2009, 07:51:12 PM
when i first started aces high i was automatically assigned to rooks
Title: Re: Country ENY
Post by: stroker71 on October 04, 2009, 08:18:55 PM
Nice thinking-box you have there.  Very square, opaque, and rigid it appears to be from here.

The changes you want will not work the way you think they will.  I have thought about ENY and any change you make will make things worse!  Running bases in an arena where there are no defenders is lame....i agree.  But no matter what you do there will be people looking for an easy way. 

DuHasst