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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: BnZs on October 12, 2009, 01:50:52 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_mm_Bofors#Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_mm_Bofors#Army)
This sounds like the most practical variant to incorporate as a "GV":
"But the main self-propelled version of the Bofors was with the gun set on the chassis of a Morris Commercial four-wheel drive lorry. Such guns were used in support of Army divisions to provide swift protection against air attack without the need to unlimber. this was known as the "Carrier, SP, 4x4 40mm, AA (Bofors) 30cwt". They saw service in North West Europe, where six SP Bofors of 92nd (Loyals) Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, Royal Artillery, landed with the British 3rd Infantry Division on Sword Beach on D-Day to protect the vital bridges over the Caen Canal and Orne River (Pegasus Bridge and Horsa Bridge), shooting down 17 German planes. Later in the campaign, SP Bofors were used extensively for ground shots as well as in an anti-aircraft role. In British army service the Bofors found a highly specialised role: during the North Africa Campaign at the Battle of El Alamein, they were used to fire tracer horizontally to mark safe paths for units through the German minefields."
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+1 :aok
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:aok any pics ?
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What you want is the M19. It would be perked most likely but it had twin 40mm Bofors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M19_Gun_Motor_Carriage#Variants
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1b/M19_GMC.JPG/180px-M19_GMC.JPG)
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:aok
(http://www.battletanks.com/images/M19_GMC.jpg)
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Either would be fine with me! <S>
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Perked or not I say yes. Gotta spend them 11,000 plus Vehicle perks on something... :D
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/baumgar/VMMV/M19Front-Right.jpg)
:pray
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Town, what town?
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no more need for il2 . finally we can get something that will kill dr7 :D, ok j/k. but would be awsome to have.
semp
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usa wirblewind?
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This gun was used on the crusader, more surviveable.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,275097.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,275097.0.html)
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The look of that thing makes my little cartoon IL2 pilot get a case of tight cheeks. :uhoh And not the face kind.
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This gun was used on the crusader, more surviveable.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,275097.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,275097.0.html)
Beat me to it. Yes, the Crusader mounted Bofors would be the right choice. Then we'd probably get the Crusder too.
A few Bofors stats:
Bofors 40mm AA Gun:
Caliber: 40mm
Elevation:
ROF: 120 rounds/min
Muzzle velocity: 881 m/s
Effective range: 12,500 ft
Maximum Range: 23,600 ft
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I was specifically NOT asking for the Crusader because it said the truck mounted variant was most common and I presume could be taken out easily simply by fighter aircraft strafing...which would be a balance for its lethality and alleviate any need to perk it...
But hey, Crusader wouldn't suck either.
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:aok
(http://www.battletanks.com/images/M19_GMC.jpg)
I started drueling a little... If we ever get this (Plz plz plz!) make the turret slow, so it will hopefully balance out the carnage.
P.S. It is 2 40mm right? The wirble has 4 20mm. The way I see it, 40 x 2 = 80 and 20 x 4 = 80 So it would be the new wirble wind!
:banana: :banana: :banana:
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It would make a complete AAA set. Wirb for low fast moving targets with support of a 2x40mm wielding buff killer.... sounds fun.
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According to my research (which could be wrong) these were the most produced vehicles in WWII. I've listed those we already have in red. The Crusader should definitely be in the game and the Bofors version would make for a nice addition to the M-16 as an allied mobile AA:
Vehicle Country Procuction years # built
Jeep USA 1941-1945 647925
M3 Personell Halftrack USA 41000
T-34 USSR 1940-1944 34780
M4 Sherman USA 1942-1945 33403
T-34-85 USSR 1944-1945 22559
M3A3 Stuart USA 1941-1942 13859
SU-76 USSR 1942-1945 12671
M4 (76) Sherman USA 1944-1945 10883
M5 USA 1941-1943 8851
StuG III F-G Germany 1942-1945 8593
Valentine Great Britan 1939-1945 8275
T-70 USSR 1942-1943 8226
Pz IV F2-J Germany 1942-1945 7394
M10 GMC USA 1942-1943 6706
T-60 USSR 1941-1942 6292
Panther Germany 1943-1945 6132
Mk VI Crusader (A15) Great Britan 1940-1943 5300
M3 Lee/Grant USA 1941-1943 5258
These are all the GV's with producion of over 5000 and would give a nice balance across all eras of the war and thus, all the arenas. I gave up on this project before I got to Japan so they aren't represented but I know there's at least a couple of Japanese GV's that should be added to this list.
Sorry... didn't mean to hijack the thread. Oh... and I bolded those I'd most like to see personally. :)
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The AA guns that the thread is originally about....are these the quad and twin mannable guns on the CVs?
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Very cool! +1
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_mm_Bofors#Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_mm_Bofors#Army)
This sounds like the most practical variant to incorporate as a "GV":
I wish for the 90mmM2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/90_mm_M3_gun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/90_mm_M3_gun). It was pulled by a truck, so it would be mobile, and was used as and AT gun. If that won't work then I wish for the 90MM M1A1. I think 20 perks would be a reasonable price....
And this might be a nice alternative...
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bofors-aa-gun-algeria.jpg)
Perhaps towed by a jeep for a modest perk cost?
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:aok
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The AA guns that the thread is originally about....are these the quad and twin mannable guns on the CVs?
The quad mounts are exactly the same gun, yes. I haven't seen any twin mounts on the CV group myself...at least not mannable ones. The twins (if they're there) are probably 20mm mounts.
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The quad mounts are exactly the same gun, yes. I haven't seen any twin mounts on the CV group myself...at least not mannable ones. The twins (if they're there) are probably 20mm mounts.
theres twins on the destroyers.
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theres twins on the destroyers.
Kvuo is right ooz, on destroyers, and the cruiser. IDK about the carrier....
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yes please... :pray
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I'm a member of the Franklin NH Elks lodge, and have spoken to more than a few of the older Wapiti of their WW2 exploits.
One guy imparticular is relevent to this thread.
His name is Al Sprague (still a hell of a pool shooter!!)
He knew that I enjoyed listening to the WW2 stories that occasionally popped up in the club, so one day he related a story that he had forgotten until he recently re-discovered a letter he had received.
This is the letter.
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/904/file0280.jpg)
I only see Al maybe a dozen times a year, I can't believe he even remembers me or my interest in WW2, let alone remembered to carry this letter around with him in his truck to show me the next time he saw me!!
The greatest generation, they will be sorely missed, :salute
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Take your pick...
(http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/tank1.jpg)
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I'll take the 45x310R please....