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Title: B-25J Variant
Post by: 5PointOh on October 22, 2009, 06:33:23 PM
IMO the 25H is great, but I'd love to see the J variant added. I wouldnt think it would be too hard to add. Just my little wish though.

Specifications:  
North American B-25J "Mitchell" Medium Bomber  
Dimensions:  
Wing span:  Wing Span: 67 ft 7 in (20.59 m)  
Length:  Length: 51 ft (15.55 m)  
Height:  Height: 16 ft 4 in (4.98 m)  
Wing Area:  610 sq ft (56.67 mē)  
Weights:  
Empty:  19,530 lb (8,858 kg)  
Gross:  26,122 lb (11,848 kg)  
Maximum T/O:  35,000 lb. (15,876 kg)  
Performance:  
Maximum Speed:  285 mph (458 kph) at 15,000 ft (4,572 m)  
Cruising Speed:  230 mph (370 kph)  
Service Ceiling:  24,200 ft (7,376 m)  
Normal Range:  1,350 miles (2,172 km) with
3,000 lbs (1,360 kg) of bombs  
Maximum Range:  2,200 miles (3,540 km) with ferry tanks  
Powerplant:  
Two R-2600-29 Wright "Cyclone" 14 cylinder, air cooled radial
engines developing 1,700 hp (1,268 kW) each for T/O  
Armament:  
Eighteen .50 cal (12.7 mm) M-2 Colt-Browning machine guns.
Up to 3,200 lbs (1,451 kg) of bombs  

(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/usa/aircraft/bomber/north-american-b-25-mitchell/north-american-b-25-j-mitchell-01.png)

(http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/5/3/7/1299735.jpg)

Title: Re: B-25J Variant
Post by: Saxman on October 22, 2009, 07:14:31 PM
There were some who had at least 12 .50cal in the front. I thought I even saw pictures of one with FOURTEEN.
Title: Re: B-25J Variant
Post by: SmokinLoon on October 22, 2009, 09:29:14 PM
OUCH!    :O 

That thing would make the 110G-2 look like a wussy when it comes to taking down OBJ via guns.  The only problem would be the B25x's horrible dive capability.

18/.50cal MG's.  Wowza, just wowza.
Title: Re: B-25J Variant
Post by: Saxman on October 22, 2009, 09:46:56 PM
Quote from: SmokinLoon on October 22, 2009, 09:29:14 PM

18/.50cal MG's.  Wowza, just wowza.

Loon,

Keep in mind that includes the defensive guns as well as the forward package. However with two in the tail, one at each waist position, and two in the top turret that still leaves 12 forward guns. I'd hate to try and HO THAT much firepower.
Title: Re: B-25J Variant
Post by: 5PointOh on October 22, 2009, 09:53:29 PM
I'm wondering if HTC could just mate the nose of a C with the body of an H...
Title: Re: B-25J Variant
Post by: Beefcake on October 22, 2009, 10:26:12 PM
I really wish they would just make the B25J Glass Nose as it would have a higher survivability in the MA's than the B25C. Although I'm not dissing the B25C's ability to defend itself, I know of a few Me262's that have fell to it's tiny turrets.
Title: Re: B-25J Variant
Post by: 5PointOh on October 22, 2009, 11:32:04 PM
I think they could do it like the 25C, a solid strafer nose and a glass nose option.
Title: Re: B-25J Variant
Post by: Soulyss on October 23, 2009, 01:49:18 AM
Quote from: Saxman on October 22, 2009, 07:14:31 PM
There were some who had at least 12 .50cal in the front. I thought I even saw pictures of one with FOURTEEN.

I'm looking through the 345th BG history here and for awhile I was beginning to think that they had removed the side/chin guns from the J straffers and just used the 8 guns in the front nose.  Then I found a picture of a J-22 model B-25 that was delivered to the 499th squadron on January 13th 1945.  In the photo you see the usual cluster of eight in the nose plus two guns in a blister pack in the usual location under the pilots window, it's safe to assume there's another on the other side which gives twelve .50 caliber machine guns in the nose, plus the top turret was retained just aft of the cockpit and could in theory lend it's two guns to the attack, fourteen forward firing fifties.
Title: Re: B-25J Variant
Post by: 5PointOh on October 23, 2009, 11:05:28 PM
I wonder if its simular to a P-61 where the top turret could be locked forward and fired by the pilot as well.

(http://www.combatreform.org/B25allmachinegunsfiringfrontally.jpg)
Title: Re: B-25J Variant
Post by: 1pLUs44 on October 25, 2009, 12:30:52 AM
Don't forget the glass nose bomber version, would be nice to have atleast a tail gun when I want to do level bombing in a 25.
Title: Re: B-25J Variant
Post by: 100goon on October 25, 2009, 04:58:05 PM
Quote from: 5PointOh on October 23, 2009, 11:05:28 PM
I wonder if its simular to a P-61 where the top turret could be locked forward and fired by the pilot as well.

(http://www.combatreform.org/B25allmachinegunsfiringfrontally.jpg)


 :O
HOLY toejam thats alot of bullets :x
Title: Re: B-25J Variant
Post by: 5PointOh on October 28, 2009, 12:37:44 PM
Not to mention (if everything I have read on the J is correct) it was the most produced

Production numbers
A total of 9884 B-25 Mitchells were built by North American Aviation. This is a breakdown of numbers by variant:

   B-25:     24
   B-25A:     40
   B-25B:    120
   B-25C:   1620
   B-25D:   2290
   B-25G:    400
   B-25H:   1000
   B-25J:   4390
Title: Re: B-25J Variant
Post by: Krusty on October 28, 2009, 01:06:17 PM
I agree, I'd love to see a J model, not only for better defenses while bombing, but especially for the 12-pack in the nose!

I know, I know, only 300rpg or so, not all that much, but it would still be a sweet thing to play around with!