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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Heater on October 27, 2009, 12:14:24 PM
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All,
Looking for good preferably free alternative for ITunes
Cheers
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Assuming you do have an Ipod your pretty limited.
I've heard of a program called Limewire that you might want to check out.
It's supposed to be compatible with Ipods and I've been told it completely free.
Worth a try anyways :salute
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Not sure if Rhapsody is free, but I saw they have it for iPods now. It came with my Sansa View. Pretty good software.
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Do you have to pay for the Itunes software now or just to download a song?
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iTunes is free. what do you need that it doesnt do?
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Assuming you do have an Ipod your pretty limited.
I've heard of a program called Limewire that you might want to check out.
It's supposed to be compatible with Ipods and I've been told it completely free.
Worth a try anyways :salute
Stay off LIMEWIRE, its the number one spot on the Internet to get a virus!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The problem is every time I update or reinstall the OS I need to un-register the PC and IPOD then Re-register it each time, and With over 4000 legal mp3 files it's a pain in the A**
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"4000 legal mp3 files" he says. :lol
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Stay off LIMEWIRE, its the number one spot on the Internet to get a virus!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ah i didn't know that. A guy i know said thats what he used but i don't have an ipod so i didn't get any info on it.
No more Limewire recommendation from me lol
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Limewire Kazaa and Bearshare all have the same problem. I use Zune which has the same problem but I havent had to move it (7500 mp3s 10 movies and 250 podcasts at 56 GB).
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The problem is every time I update or reinstall the OS I need to un-register the PC and IPOD then Re-register it each time, and With over 4000 legal mp3 files it's a pain in the A**
Limewire is baaaaad.
Heater, whenever I upgrade I just put my songs onto my external HDD and when done installing, put them back onto the comp and import into itunes...
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Doubletwist :)
http://www.doubletwist.com/dt/Home/Index.dt
Steely
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Winamp works, it's free
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One of the major problems with Ipods is that they prefer a .mp4 format which can pretty much only be got via itunes, you'll realize that all the music files that's on your computer is imported to itunes, well, during that they convert it to a .mp4, so unfortunatly, your choices are very limited. That's why I prefer Zen. :D My Zen V Plus has lasted years, and is compatable with nearly every file type, and those it's not, it converts. :D
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The only reason Limewire is so "bad" (use FrostWire instead, btw) is because people are retarded enough to download ZIP and RAR files.
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One of the major problems with Ipods is that they prefer a .mp4 format which can pretty much only be got via itunes, you'll realize that all the music files that's on your computer is imported to itunes, well, during that they convert it to a .mp4, so unfortunatly, your choices are very limited. That's why I prefer Zen. :D My Zen V Plus has lasted years, and is compatable with nearly every file type, and those it's not, it converts. :D
I don't have a single mp4 on my iPod and everything sounds fine. The only things that need to be converted are .flac's.
The only reason Limewire is so "bad" (use FrostWire instead, btw) is because people are retarded enough to download ZIP and RAR files.
Or you could use a real bittorrent client...
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I use FrostWire and uTorrent. Those bonus of Lime/Frostwire is the network they connect to, especially with all of the torrent sites (especially the trackers) being shut down.
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Limewire.
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If you have time, you can strip DRM from your music pretty easily. Just burn it to CD, then re-rip it as mp3 without DRM. Yea you lose a little quality but most can't tell the difference.
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By the time you install any of the limewire, bearshare, kazzaa, whatever, it is too late. It is not that the stuff you will download will be a virus,,,,,,,,,,,,they are darn near a virus. They not only install the Peer to Peer software, but a TON other programs. Suddenly you have quite a bit more icons in the lower right of your computer and you will have about 10 new startup programs...........gee is the computer running slower?
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FrostWire won't. And I suppose I kinda take the fact that I maintain my computer for granted...sorry. (no sarcasm intended)
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Use media monkey for an organiser...its IPOD compatible
Tronsky
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The Beatles were the first boyband!
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With over 500,000 mp3 files (about 500 Gb (+/-) , Itunes is a pain in my arse. (I am a mobile Disc Jockey in case you wondered why I have or needed so many, and no I will never use them all, but this is what I have after almost 20 years)
No that I am trashing it, I just prefer to organize and put my own Id3 tags on my music. The generic classifications of certain songs do not cut it for me. I also tags songs for different uses (such as cutting the cake at a wedding, etc) When I am running an event and need to change gears and pick different music in the blink of an eye, I do not need Itunes arguing about how the music should be tagged or organized so it stays off of the "work" laptop.
On the other hand, I find it really cool when my daughter plugs her IPod into the supplied port in my wrangler and the screen reads Jeep ! :D
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Jeepipod.jpg)
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I just prefer to organize and put my own Id3 tags on my music. The generic classifications of certain songs do not cut it for me. I also tags songs for different uses (such as cutting the cake at a wedding, etc) When I am running an event and need to change gears and pick different music in the blink of an eye, I do not need Itunes arguing about how the music should be tagged or organized so it stays off of the "work" laptop.
Wow - with 500,000 tracks I'd let Gracenote CDDB do the initial tagging. I dont think anyone uses the "genre" tag, I always disable it in views. iTunes works brilliantly wrt tagging - use the "Grouping" tag and put your keywords in there, you can then set up smart playlists with "Grouping contains xxxx". :)
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Wow - with 500,000 tracks I'd let Gracenote CDDB do the initial tagging. I dont think anyone uses the "genre" tag, I always disable it in views. iTunes works brilliantly wrt tagging - use the "Grouping" tag and put your keywords in there, you can then set up smart playlists with "Grouping contains xxxx". :)
I use genre for stuff like ECS (East Coast Swing), WCS (West Coast), Shag, Cha Cha, 2-Step, Processional, Recessional, etc. Some songs work for certain dances, that were never meant for it. Think "Crazy Train" for a quick-step (ala Dancing with the stars)
It helps for those "brain fart" moments when I need a certain song for a certain situation. I can sort by genre. It also helps the guys that work for me that haven't been doing this for as long.
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ah I see what u mean - iTunes can overwrite the "Genre" tag when it checks CDDB, thats why the "Grouping" tag is better - never gets overwritten by iTunes but you can still sort/browse and playlist it like the "Genre" tag. Theres a few good ID3 tag apps out there which should make it easy to copy all your "Genre" tags over to "Grouping" if you want to try it.
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ah I see what u mean - iTunes can overwrite the "Genre" tag when it checks CDDB, thats why the "Grouping" tag is better - never gets overwritten by iTunes but you can still sort/browse and playlist it like the "Genre" tag. Theres a few good ID3 tag apps out there which should make it easy to copy all your "Genre" tags over to "Grouping" if you want to try it.
Nice, I'll check it out. :aok
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iTunes totally messed up all my son's songs that he had on his Zune. In the Zune software it allowed at least I think an easier way to tag music and edit the artist and album names and tracks without having to jump through hoops. At least that is my experience so far with him only having his iPod Touch for about a month. We had all his Guns N' Roses songs edited and labeled to be just like the band name; now they are screwed up.
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I don't think it is ITunes as much as it is the CDDB (CD DataBase) that it gets its tagging info from.
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iTunes totally messed up all my son's songs that he had on his Zune. In the Zune software it allowed at least I think an easier way to tag music and edit the artist and album names and tracks without having to jump through hoops. At least that is my experience so far with him only having his iPod Touch for about a month. We had all his Guns N' Roses songs edited and labeled to be just like the band name; now they are screwed up.
operator error...
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I'm probably wrong to comment here. I gave up trying to maintain an organized music collection. It takes lots of effort and/or money. I just throw everything I have at Windows Media Player and let the chips fall.
For casual exploration of music I use Rhapsody and just pick what I want to listen to off their service. It's kind of like having millions of tracks available on demand. Well, in fact it is.
But, it's no sonic utopia. Invariably, there's always at least one song I want to hear that they don't have rights to stream. Or, their really poor search and presentation facilities make it impossible to find what you're looking for.
Still, you can listen to Rhapsody radio for free, and pick 25 songs from their menu for free each month. Honestly, that's more than I usually use.
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Oh, i forgot... iTunes makes my PC c...r...a...w...l and it adds at least three new items to the list in Task Manager. So, forgetaboutit.
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I have ripped close to one thousand cd's to apple lossless and have them stored on a nas drive for use with my sonos system. Some day i may get finished ripping them all but dont think ill bother with the junk. Itunes has never given me any trouble over the several versions ive had. Ive heard complaints from those that has bought music from itunes in the past though.
I dont have a single tune on my ipod the traditional way. I use the brilliant Spotify program in online and offline mode for music on the pod.
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I have ripped close to one thousand cd's to apple lossless and have them stored on a nas drive for use with my sonos system. Some day i may get finished ripping them all but dont think ill bother with the junk. Itunes has never given me any trouble over the several versions ive had. Ive heard complaints from those that has bought music from itunes in the past though.
I dont have a single tune on my ipod the traditional way. I use the brilliant Spotify program in online and offline mode for music on the pod.
I know some DJ's that use Ipod(s) when they work. They have a dual system setup like 2 turntables. It really doesn't work for me. The software I use allows me to seamlessly beat-mix, save my mixes (if I really like them for future use) and a host of other options such as slowing down/speeding up a song without changing the pitch (think Chipmunks). It is really nice to be able to slow down a song to teach a line dance without it sounding like a bunch of mush. It's easier than finding a song with slower BPM's to teach the dance to. It also helps the folks learning the dance to remember which steps are used in different parts of the song (since it is the same song). My software can also play karaoke (with the lyrics on a secondary monitor) and I can mix music videos (but I rarely play videos)
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I was a dj in the good old vinyl days with two 1210's and a table :old: Cd mixing systems were just starting to arrive. They cost an arm and a leg and was completly useless. :old:
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operator error...
Not likely since the operator (me) knows quite a bit about the various aspects of tagging and editing the music. So move along.
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well iTunes wont overwrite any tags unless you ask it to, and editing them is a matter of selecting the track (or album, artist, playlist etc for multiples), hitting Ctrl-I and typing the tag. hardly "jumping through hoops"...
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You can also select a whole bunch of tracks and mass-edit their tags all at once. Quite honestly the ONLY feature of iTunes I enjoy.
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I was a dj in the good old vinyl days with two 1210's and a table :old: Cd mixing systems were just starting to arrive. They cost an arm and a leg and was completly useless. :old:
They skipped worse than vinyl, employees scratch them (and don't tell you about it but you find out when the Bride/Groom's first dance song is on it).
I had a few mini-disc players which were great. The only problem I ever had with them is when the guys lost them or didn't put them back in the right place. You get used to the main ones you use being "right there", but when you grab for it, it is the wrong one.
It's a shame that they didn't catch on that well, here in the states.
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Could you adjust pitch on mini-disc players?
I was done before minidisc was available. Soundquality was not the best on that format, but very handy indeed.
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Could you adjust pitch on mini-disc players?
I was done before minidisc was available. Soundquality was not the best on that format, but very handy indeed.
On my players, you could (iirc) go 6% either way. It was enough to slap-mix songs together but not nearly as seamless as today's software :)
It still beat putting those damn tags on the vinyl :old:
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mmmmmmm vinyl!! :old:
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If you have time, you can strip DRM from your music pretty easily. Just burn it to CD, then re-rip it as mp3 without DRM. Yea you lose a little quality but most can't tell the difference.
everything from Itunes now is DRM free