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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Getback on November 15, 2009, 02:35:15 AM
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Tonight just sucked on so many levels. Rooks were just spawn camping. I assume the other sides were as well. I head into a dar bar and it is all jets. Knits would not leave the safety of their base. I chase a B17 to a factory that is being escorted by a p51 at least 25k or more. Uh Read that again! You need escort to milk run!!!!. Lame level 70 as been achieved.
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Want to duel?
Or help me with a film I'm making?
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I chase a B17 to a factory that is being escorted by a p51 at least 25k or more. Uh Read that again!
Sounds like a fun opportunity for some rare high-alt combat for me. I probably would have had fun in trying to neutralize or shoot down the escort first before attacking the bombers.
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Sounds like a fun opportunity for some rare high-alt combat for me. I probably would have had fun in trying to neutralize or shoot down the escort first before attacking the bombers.
Was my thought....everyone looks at high alt fights like they are to be discouraged, on the contrary, I feel they are a lot of fun.
Plus ruining a "milk runners" day is always fun, though if he climbed that high and picked up an escort it sounds a lot like a well thought sortie.
Bombers cant win, bomb base fail, bomb town fail, bomb strat fail....
Strip
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Sounds like a fun opportunity for some rare high-alt combat for me. I probably would have had fun in trying to neutralize or shoot down the escort first before attacking the bombers.
He wouldn't come down to play. I followed them for 2 sectors. I'm not going to stall out for him.
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He wouldn't come down to play. I followed them for 2 sectors. I'm not going to stall out for him.
What were you flying?
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He wouldn't come down to play. I followed them for 2 sectors. I'm not going to stall out for him.
Sounds as his top priority was escorting the bomber, and he he wasn't dumb enough to get distracted from that mission. Which would have made the fight against the buffs even more interesting for me - is there a way to get the fighter on a wrong footing, so that I can shoot down one or two buffs?
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Sounds as his top priority was escorting the bomber, and he he wasn't dumb enough to get distracted from that mission. Which would have made the fight against the buffs even more interesting for me - is there a way to get the fighter on a wrong footing, so that I can shoot down one or two buffs?
One word, Fuel.
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One word, Fuel.
In that case they won the battle, you lost. Happened to me before, but I never though of it as being "lame" in any way.
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How inconsiderate of them , they should have come in at 10k without escort.
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I find combat at alt above 25k to be extremely challenging. One tiny mistake can cost you the whole fight. It really is fun and much more difficult then fighting in the trees. I too do not understand why high alt combat is so looked down on. Frankly I enjoy the challenge.
My only issue with last night was losing UDP 3 times .....that's more times in one night then I have had in 6 months
Helm ...out
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I went to the TA and messed around with a P-39. I got my arse whooped by WarKat and his P-40, but hey, I learned something!
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Heh why does everyone ignore the obvious :rolleyes: High alt fights are a looooong time in happening and if your the low guy climbing up to them your in for an even looooonger time of it. :uhoh
Guys frown on the astrowarriors because it takes all that time to climb up, most of the guys that do it are looking for the "cherry pick" and will run from a coalt fight even if you do climb up to them. Same goes for jet jocks they too are just looking for the pick, and while I am on it the 163 lasts waaaaaay to long in flight (if I recall correctly they only lasted about 20 minutes of actual combat time once to alt). For me the jets upset the "balance" of the game but that is just my opinion and I simply log off when they get too numerous. :airplane:
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OMG! A B-17 at altitude with a P-51 escort? And they didn't get distracted by someone who wasn't a threat?
I wish more people would fly in historically accurate ways such as the above. The only thing lame about it is coming here calling it lame.
I ran into the exact same situation one day except it was a Jug escorting and they were at 20K. I killed two of the buffs, then the Jug and got to land my kills. I really enjoy when you can get an escort out of position and make a run on his buffs with nothing he can do about it. I can just imagine the fighter pilot :confused: and the buff pilot :uhoh and me :t :banana:
In your scenario it was the figher pilot :P and the buff pilot :neener: :cheers: and you :mad:
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OMG! A B-17 at altitude with a P-51 escort? And they didn't get distracted by someone who wasn't a threat?
I wish more people would fly in historically accurate ways such as the above. The only thing lame about it is coming here calling it lame.
I ran into the exact same situation one day except it was a Jug escorting and they were at 20K. I killed two of the buffs, then the Jug and got to land my kills. I really enjoy when you can get an escort out of position and make a run on his buffs with nothing he can do about it. I can just imagine the fighter pilot :confused: and the buff pilot :uhoh and me :t :banana:
In your scenario it was the figher pilot :P and the buff pilot :neener: :cheers: and you :mad:
Wow, you missed the point! But for goodness sakes take any opportunity to be self-righteous. The buffs were being escorted to bomb a factory. Personally I found that lame. Not the fact they were being escorted. I mean I cannot imagine myself saying hey, I'm doing a milk run, any escorts?!
Now as far as I am concerned by all means get escorts and fly as high as you like.
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There is no such thing as a milk run when talking about prime time Late War.
There are guys out there like...(nevermind the names)...who make it a point to hunt said milkers down. As long as there is one competant, smart, SA employing player on the other side, nothing is a sure bet. Factories are there to be bombed, and it sounds like this bomber pilot was smart about it.
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There is no such thing as a milk run when talking about prime time Late War.
There are guys out there like...(nevermind the names)...who make it a point to hunt said milkers down. As long as there is one competant, smart, SA employing player on the other side, nothing is a sure bet. Factories are there to be bombed, and it sounds like this bomber pilot was smart about it.
Understood. Still though, would you ask someone to escort you to a factory other than hq? MHO, it seems lame.
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Understood. Still though, would you ask someone to escort you to a factory other than hq? MHO, it seems lame.
Perhaps it was a practice run? Maybe they were bored with horde vs horde? You call it lame; they thought it was fun.
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Understood. Still though, would you ask someone to escort you to a factory other than hq? MHO, it seems lame.
I really don't know.
If I flew bombers I probably would, seeing as I would endeavor to do my best possible work. I love engaging high buffs, especially when escorted. It is a challenge, and for me, a situation that is too rare in the MA. Additionally, I certainly prefer them going for factories, over front line active fighter hangers. Now, that is lame to me...but that's a whole nuther discussion.
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Additionally, I certainly prefer them going for factories, over front line active fighter hangers. Now, that is lame to me...but that's a whole nuther discussion.
:aok
Factory attacks are fun for both sides IMO
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yea it is that stuff that tends to be missing in the MAs ...
if every once in a while a BG would hook up with a FG and just goes balls out throwing their weight around then the interceptor guys would need to get organized and thats when the fun would really get started ...
IMO
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yea it is that stuff that tends to be missing in the MAs ...
if every once in a while a BG would hook up with a FG and just goes balls out throwing their weight around then the interceptor guys would need to get organized and thats when the fun would really get started ...
IMO
It's not that this never happens in the MA's. We do have occasionally such "organized" raids, the "MoMs" were such a thing.
Unfortunately, if advertised ahead they tend to attract a huge number of 262's and cannon planes waiting at 30k over the target area, which makes even getting to the target quite improbable no matter if escorted or not.
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Sounds like a fun opportunity for some rare high-alt combat for me. I probably would have had fun in trying to neutralize or shoot down the escort first before attacking the bombers.
a couple weeks ago, i kept going way up high, as it seemed that i was getting picked, even when i was at 10-12k. cruisin along at 23k, i found another p-38. it was oldman22.
it was one of the most fun fights i've ever had. it was one of the hardest too. the 38 o doom is WAAAAYYYY different up there.
couple nights after that, i was flying around a sector looking for a con that i expected to find at 12-15k...and this night i just wanted to be higher, so i was around 20k again.
this time it was rv6flyer, and once again, one of the most fun fights ever.
both of those guys handled their 38's with excellence up there, and both were fun to fight.
that being said, i friggin HATE spending time to go that high usually.
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I find combat at alt above 25k to be extremely challenging. One tiny mistake can cost you the whole fight. It really is fun and much more difficult then fighting in the trees. I too do not understand why high alt combat is so looked down on. Frankly I enjoy the challenge.
Helm ...out
i wouldn't say that hi alt combat is more difficult than fighting in the trees. it simply takes a different skillset to perform it successfully.
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There is no such thing as a milk run when talking about prime time Late War.
Wisdom Stampf! :aok
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Understood. Still though, would you ask someone to escort you to a factory other than hq? MHO, it seems lame.
when i bomb, i generally never ask for an escort.....regardless of my alt or target. it's fun trying to see how many fighters i can take with me.
that being said, i don't spend much time in buffs.
one thing i AM curious about though.......last night in mw, i came upon a set of 24's at about 6k alt. dropped on em, using standard "slashing" pass. was trying to set up for the left drone, but messed up....and went for the lead.
first pass ignited him. 2nd or 3rd lit off the 2nd drone.
this guy came back multiple times. it seemed to me, that the 24's lit up like roman candles much more easily than i remember in the past.
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Tonight just sucked on so many levels. Rooks were just spawn camping. I assume the other sides were as well. I head into a dar bar and it is all jets. Knits would not leave the safety of their base. I chase a B17 to a factory that is being escorted by a p51 at least 25k or more. Uh Read that again! You need escort to milk run!!!!. Lame level 70 as been achieved.
I find that quite common as well---many of the ones who dont take bases orbit their own bases at cloud level in packs, rarely leaving dar circle, rarely taking risk...yawn. In general, Bish more fun to fight, even the Bops :eek:
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maybe the bombers were 262 bait for the pony :salute
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But for goodness sakes take any opportunity to be self-righteous.
Oh please. I was just having some fun with you but if anything you're OP was the self-righteous post; "I'm so bored... everyone else is so lame blah blah blah.
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I've done some :airplane: with buffs several times. Usually I will stick with the buff and only engage if enemy fighter(s) get high enough to threaten the mission. Aside from that, I won't engage. Now if he decides he wants to bail out after the run, i'll go and find a fight.
That wasn't me in that case since i haven't gotten back into the game yet. Hopefully I will within the next couple of weeks, early next month at latest.
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This iswhy dual monitors and graphics cards rocks. Climbout/travel to anywhere is kinda boring, I just play another game while climbing. I just play wow while my p47 climbs at it's mighty rate
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OK what is lame about escorting a bomber. IMO bombing a factory can affect how fast a base is resupplied. I do this quite often bomb the city then their ammo factory and watch them whine and compain about how long it is taking to resupply a base. Even if the area is clear I have a chance to take a fighter escort I will take it. A bomber mission can alter real fast usually once one fighter sees you then you know here soon there will be more as your position is now known and if a fighter can by you the time you need to get bombs on target then you take it. It aint being lame it is being smart.
FYI This is one of those Whine Topics where the person who started it is pretty much saying I was bored because the bomber didnt play fair and didnt do what I wanted him to do.
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OK what is lame about escorting a bomber. IMO bombing a factory can affect how fast a base is resupplied. I do this quite often bomb the city then their ammo factory and watch them whine and compain about how long it is taking to resupply a base. Even if the area is clear I have a chance to take a fighter escort I will take it. A bomber mission can alter real fast usually once one fighter sees you then you know here soon there will be more as your position is now known and if a fighter can by you the time you need to get bombs on target then you take it. It aint being lame it is being smart.
FYI This is one of those Whine Topics where the person who started it is pretty much saying I was bored because the bomber didnt play fair and didnt do what I wanted him to do.
I only agree that boredom is my responsibility but still, lol, I was bored. Call it a whine if you like. I always say play the game the way you like even if I do think it is lame. As far as I am concerned the matter is over and it's a new day.
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I only agree that boredom is my responsibility but still, lol, I was bored. Call it a whine if you like. I always say play the game the way you like even if I do think it is lame. As far as I am concerned the matter is over and it's a new day.
it's not a whine.
it's your opinion. :aok
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And one more point about high alt combat -- if you're stalling out, either you're trying to climb to max alt without letting speed build up first, or you're in a plane that shouldn't be that high in the first place.
(To anticipate how your plane will be handling at altitude, look at the INDICATED rather than GROUND speed marker. That takes the air "thinness" into account.)
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Tonight just sucked on so many levels. Rooks were just spawn camping. I assume the other sides were as well. I head into a dar bar and it is all jets. Knits would not leave the safety of their base. I chase a B17 to a factory that is being escorted by a p51 at least 25k or more. Uh Read that again! You need escort to milk run!!!!. Lame level 70 as been achieved.
Aaaaaw, what a shame.
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it's not a whine.
it's your opinion. :aok
Cap1 :salute and thanks!
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I went to the TA and messed around with a P-39. I got my arse whooped by WarKat and his P-40, but hey, I learned something!
I heard that WarKat keeps getting kicked off IL2 servers because he's so good everyone acuses him of cheating