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Title: AFK 'ers
Post by: rod367th on November 20, 2009, 04:29:25 AM
CAn we get a code that if you don't up in 4hrs atleast once you automaticly get disco'ed. guys now in early and mid and sometimes late war will sit in towers for days waiting for perk points. /in mid and early this hurts guy whos alone and fighting 6 others but since 5 guys afk wanting perks he can't fly plane with out being in eny of 30. i think 4 hrs plenty no need to say afk longer would like 2hrs but i know to many will probally cry.
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Grape on November 20, 2009, 06:12:02 AM
I don't understand.
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: hammer on November 20, 2009, 07:25:14 AM
I don't understand.

Think of it this way: ENY kicks in when your sides numbers are a certain percentage above the other sides'. In a low number arena like mid and early war, just a few people can make the difference. For example, if Side A has 15 people, and side B and C have 10 each, then Side A has a 50% advantage and will have an ENY penalty. The problem that the OP is pointing out is that 7 of the people on Side A may not be flying. They simply went to bed (or whatever) and stayed logged on hoping that Side A would win the war and they would get the perk points. This means Side A is actually flying at a 20% disadvantage to both the other sides (8 vs 10 vs 10) but is still being penalized by ENY for having a numbers advantage.

You sometimes hear the same complaint in the LWMAs if one side is approaching a reset late in the evening. People go to bed, but stay logged on in hopes of earning a few extra perks. In the end, it works against a reset because of ENY restrictions.

Regards,

Hammer
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: OOZ662 on November 20, 2009, 07:33:15 AM
I've requested this before. And I entirely agree with it. It'd also help out with people camping around during primetime so that they can go to dinner with the family and not lose their spot while others are trying to get in.

On the other hand, I don't see why ENY isn't based on the InFlight number. It'd fluctuate a bit more, but it's a much better gauge of force than the overall numbers. In terms of coding, it seems like all that would be needed is a tiny change in code compared to a whole new kicking system.
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Masherbrum on November 20, 2009, 08:28:22 AM
I'll never forget an evening about 3 years ago.   People were balling on 200 constantly (Knights), Hub, Stang and I conspired in one of AH's funniest moments.   I suggested a bunch of Rooks switch to Knights.   In all, almost 20 switched, sending the ENY IIRC, to around 30.   Of course Hub, Stang and I were too busy typing "forgetting to reed t3h manuol" comments on 200/green text to even roll a plane.

Instead of grumbling, they knew we did it as a joke and everyone laughed their posteriors off.   


Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Latrobe on November 20, 2009, 08:35:50 AM
Don't know why you'd sit in the tower waiting for your side to win for perks. Don't you only get 25 perks for that? I get more than that in 1 sortie! :D
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Masherbrum on November 20, 2009, 08:36:58 AM
Don't know why you'd sit in the tower waiting for your side to win for perks. Don't you only get 25 perks for that? I get more than that in 1 sortie! :D

Knights weren't "winning".   They had an ENY of 16 before we switched to increase the ENY.
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: OOZ662 on November 20, 2009, 09:33:18 AM
Knights weren't "winning".   They had an ENY of 16 before we switched to increase the ENY.

He wasn't referring to you. Rather the earlier comments about people going AFK to bed when a war is close to over for the free perks.
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Lusche on November 20, 2009, 10:27:18 AM
You don't need to be online the moment the war gets won to get the perks for it.

On the other hand, I don't see why ENY isn't based on the InFlight number.

10 Players on a team in EW rolling the outnumbered side. ENY kicks in. If eny was based on "inflight only", all they now had to do is to land (ENY goes down), then spawn all at once in a mission.
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: OOZ662 on November 20, 2009, 10:45:11 AM
Hmm...I suppose that's true. And any solution to that would be as complicated as an AFK-kick system.
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Chalenge on November 20, 2009, 12:26:28 PM
Rods post once again offends reason. 5-6 guys are afk waiting for a map victory by the one guy in the air? Think about it.  :x
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Banshee7 on November 20, 2009, 01:17:09 PM
For some reason or another, every time I go AFK for an extended period of time I'm usually disco'd anyway.
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: AKDogg on November 20, 2009, 01:40:10 PM
I always am yelling at AKKillz.  He is always afk, sometimes for days just sitting in the tower.  This is in the late war arenas though.  He nver gets disco'd
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: rod367th on November 21, 2009, 01:26:03 PM
Rods post once again offends reason. 5-6 guys are afk waiting for a map victory by the one guy in the air? Think about it.  :x



here you go being idiot again. these guys were afk all day waiting for reset. like i said, wheni get on bisg rooks milking witth no one on all afk. and you turn plainly simple srtatement around again. fact is not close to reset because during early morning no knights were on only afk. which helps others because if they kill one guy defending they get big perks because they are outnumbered by afk'ers. but 1 guy has to fly outdated planes trying to defnding with no ord no vh and in spit ones hurri 1's that can't kill tank and if lucky 1 o r 2 m3s before landing.


but then you follow being a ankle humper makeing stupid statements being a $#%^
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Chalenge on November 21, 2009, 04:03:16 PM
You are over analyzing the game rod (and your insults are ridiculous too). Most of those guys in the tower are waiting for the ENY to come down (probably) or just reading the BBS while the ENY is too high for their favorite planes. Waiting in the tower for reset? Thats reading a little too much into it I think. Probably if it ever was changed the same guys would just log back in right away. This has been asked for before by the way (next time try doing a search) and never has it been added.

-1
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: phatzo on November 22, 2009, 09:44:30 PM
For some reason or another, every time I go AFK for an extended period of time I'm usually disco'd anyway.
same here. One day GumNuts left his tank half way between two contested bases for about 12 hours. Surprised he didn't get killed.
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: bravoa8 on November 22, 2009, 09:53:25 PM
I hate games that auto disconnect you! Don't add it to AH2! :furious
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: rod367th on November 23, 2009, 11:32:06 AM
You are over analyzing the game rod (and your insults are ridiculous too). Most of those guys in the tower are waiting for the ENY to come down (probably) or just reading the BBS while the ENY is too high for their favorite planes. Waiting in the tower for reset? Thats reading a little too much into it I think. Probably if it ever was changed the same guys would just log back in right away. This has been asked for before by the way (next time try doing a search) and never has it been added.

-1



lol donk your talking about something u have no clue on. knights reset midwar every day. so some rooks and bish just log on as nit and never fly. not 1 sortie ever.  and 3 of said people never flown sortie in midwar in 3 tods. they just in tower hoping for reset 25perks. and its not just 1 day its everyday. LTnoob who flys bish in every arena can be found afk in midar knight side. when hes not playing. and many others to.
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: OOZ662 on November 23, 2009, 11:34:09 AM
I hate games that auto disconnect you! Don't add it to AH2! :furious

What's the benefit of being able to sit in the tower doing nothing? I mean NOTHING. Even VOX transmissions could be used to show activity and not boot them.
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: waystin2 on November 23, 2009, 12:01:52 PM
I say nope.
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: hammer on November 23, 2009, 12:07:22 PM
I hate games that auto disconnect you! Don't add it to AH2! :furious

The difference here is that someone remaining logged on but not actively playing affects other people. For me personally, it fits in the "I don't care" category, but I certainly understand where it comes from. I would be interested in hearing why some of those who are opposed to it take that position.

Regards,

Hammer
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: OOZ662 on November 23, 2009, 12:07:45 PM
I say nope.

Why?
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: LLogann on November 23, 2009, 12:12:05 PM
Perhaps what you're really trying to say is 29.

In all, almost 20 switched, sending the ENY IIRC, to around 30.   

This is a good wish and I am one of those afk'ers.
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Banshee7 on November 23, 2009, 01:19:15 PM
I say nope.

You disappoint me...   I was wanting the IMG
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Masherbrum on November 23, 2009, 01:30:57 PM
Perhaps what you're really trying to say is 29.

This is a good wish and I am one of those afk'ers.

NO, it hit 30, I cannot remember if it hit 31 or 32.   
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: waystin2 on November 23, 2009, 03:36:12 PM
You disappoint me...   I was wanting the IMG

LOL again Banshee it is the big hammer.  Only when it absolutely positively has to be noped!!!
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Chalenge on November 23, 2009, 06:05:00 PM
So what rod is saying is that the noobs go to the team that is about to reset the map just for the perks? And rod is whining that he cant win the map and get his perks? Its not about perks guys... remember? When the eny goes high just move to another country.

This is all about failure to perform and you know I am right or rod would not be resorting to insults. Customers that get booted offline usually stop playing altogether.
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Banshee7 on November 23, 2009, 06:05:57 PM
NO, it hit 30, I cannot remember if it hit 31 or 32.   

Karaya, I think the ENY limit is 29, sir.  :)
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: twitchy on November 23, 2009, 06:28:52 PM
I suggested a bunch of Rooks switch to Knights.   In all, almost 20 switched, sending the ENY IIRC, to around 30.
Hey that's real classy, and a shining example amung the many of why ENY needs to go bye bye, people are gaming it.
-Twitchy
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Banshee7 on November 23, 2009, 06:52:26 PM
a shining example amung the many of why ENY needs to go bye bye
ENY should stay.  It does exactly what it was designed to do


Hey that's real classy, , people are gaming it.
Knowing Karaya very well, I believe his motive for doing such was to piss people like yourself off.  Apparently, whether you were there or not, he succeeded.  Way to go on the loss!
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: LLogann on November 23, 2009, 10:41:36 PM
It's true!   :aok
Karaya, I think the ENY limit is 29, sir.  :)
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: LLogann on November 23, 2009, 10:45:07 PM
And they never fly Bishop.
LTnoob who flys LynchMob
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: dirtydog on November 24, 2009, 12:11:07 AM
knights reset map in midwar everyday .....go spend a afternoon in there .....2 bish 20 knights and maybe 5 rooks and take a good look at the knight roster
 
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Delirium on November 24, 2009, 02:00:20 AM
I go afk quite a bit... I log on, fly a quick sortie or two then do stuff around the house. Go back 30 minutes later and do the same. Imho, they aren't going to change the way inactive people are handled. Here are some nice quotes regarding this subject to back up my position.

Has it ever occurred to anyone that all countries have approximately the same % AFK at one time? Hence this kicking AFK people will have no effect on ENY.

And it would also have almost no effect on getting into full arenas because other people will just take the AFK peoples place, and the chances of logging in and having a full arena are still the same. In fact since you have slightly lowered the total people on line, you have increased the chances of not being able to get into 1 of the arenas.


We have a classic case of giving the players what they ask for, would have the effect of not giving them what they really want.

HiTech

And of the ones I played if I wished to stay in with out getting a time out I could.

HiTech
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: OOZ662 on November 24, 2009, 02:08:55 AM
Believe it or not, I disagree with him on this one.
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Chalenge on November 24, 2009, 03:42:37 AM
Doesnt matter ooz (sorry). What rod and a few of you fail to realize is how this in addition to the host limitations would affect users. Think about it...

You are a player that has time one or two nights a week to fly. The hosts have been broken up and capped so that large squads cant pool together (even though they still do) and run the map but you like to fly with a small squad and yet somehow the host is always full when you have time to play (bad schedule conflict I guess). So its frustrating just to meet up with your friends and difficult to schedule those arena 'special events' you like so much (DHBG missions for instance). So you decide to come in early and grab a spot but now because of rods idea you get booted just waiting for the mission time. Worse yet you cant get back in after that. Adding frustration upon frustration you start thinking things HTC doesnt want you thinking.

On top of that the ENY is still high and it doesnt sound like the idea was so great after all! And rod called me an idiot and stupid and wasted all that karma for nothing!  :neener:

Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: OOZ662 on November 24, 2009, 06:08:19 AM
Seeing as that's one of the the things I'm all for eliminating...I don't see the problem. People can at least sit and talk with their group while they wait. If it's a longer wait than viable by those means, they ought to give someone who wants to play now their place.
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Ghosth on November 24, 2009, 06:35:37 AM
Your asking HTC to piss off their own customers, why would they do that?
People start getting dropped from their arena of choice and they'll start dropping accounts.

That was why HT invented flat rate pricing in the first place.
So we could all fly as much as we wanted, sit in the tower for hours if that is what we chose.

This idea has cropped up a few times now, but its never going to fly.
You want to take cash out of HT's pocket and give him nothing in return.
Just so you can win the war easier. LOL

Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: waystin2 on November 24, 2009, 09:42:01 AM
Why?

If you deny me the ability to go AFK for any period of time, then this drastically affects my game play enjoyment.  No happy=no customer.  I sincerely doubt HTC will begin booting customers who are AFK.
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: OOZ662 on November 24, 2009, 11:12:46 AM
Just so you can win the war easier. LOL

It irritates me to not be able to get into an arena when I know there are people that have been AFK there for hours. Even just on our channel, we have had people that just sit there for over half a day taking up space. One was even there for three days, never played at all. Sat in the same tower, red on the list, doing diddly.
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: usvi on November 24, 2009, 11:31:54 AM
People pay to play,go afk.ho,pick and on and on.
The point being THEY pay,not you.
You don't get to decide how they use the time they pay for.
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Chalenge on November 24, 2009, 11:49:58 AM
It irritates me to not be able to get into an arena when I know there are people that have been AFK there for hours. Even just on our channel, we have had people that just sit there for over half a day taking up space. One was even there for three days, never played at all. Sat in the same tower, red on the list, doing diddly.

Maybe its hard for you to get in because you play for the wrong team?  :devil
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Slade on November 25, 2009, 07:25:41 AM
[AFK Side Bar]

AFK is the best pilot in the game!

I up from a base I think there are no cons around and do the auto-climb thing until 10k or so.  I alt-tab and do other stuff (work related usually) for 5 minutes or so.  I come back and I have been killed.  I would guess 10-25% of kills by others against me come this way.

I give the AFK on 200 and re-up.

This is not a whine or complaint.  Just stating that AFK, for those not hypnotized by score and points, is the best pilot in the game.  :rofl
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: wsveum on November 25, 2009, 09:04:37 AM
If I'm reading this right, some of you would rather piss off the people that want to play the game and not piss off the players that want to stay afk for over 4 hours! right. I think anyone that is afk for 24 hours should be be kick off. That is not unreasonable. Just my .02 which does not mean much in the big world of AH. :lol
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: rod367th on November 25, 2009, 12:07:21 PM
Doesnt matter ooz (sorry). What rod and a few of you fail to realize is how this in addition to the host limitations would affect users. Think about it...

You are a player that has time one or two nights a week to fly. The hosts have been broken up and capped so that large squads cant pool together (even though they still do) and run the map but you like to fly with a small squad and yet somehow the host is always full when you have time to play (bad schedule conflict I guess). So its frustrating just to meet up with your friends and difficult to schedule those arena 'special events' you like so much (DHBG missions for instance). So you decide to come in early and grab a spot but now because of rods idea you get booted just waiting for the mission time. Worse yet you cant get back in after that. Adding frustration upon frustration you start thinking things HTC doesnt want you thinking.

On top of that the ENY is still high and it doesnt sound like the idea was so great after all! And rod called me an idiot and stupid and wasted all that karma for nothing!  :neener:


se clueless all guy would have to do in your situation is fly 1 sec or tank 1 sec  every 3.99 hrs and hes not thrown out. LOL you surely are clueless donk
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Chalenge on November 25, 2009, 01:15:01 PM
Real classy there rod. Way to man up and admit your wrong. Im proud of you.  :aok
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: guncrasher on November 25, 2009, 06:57:30 PM
se clueless all guy would have to do in your situation is fly 1 sec or tank 1 sec  every 3.99 hrs and hes not thrown out. LOL you surely are clueless donk

You fly for 1 sec every 3.99 and you still AFK, which will not make a difference to your original complain.


sometimes I wonder why lots of people want to change others to suit their "needs".  you guys ever notice how for some people everybody else is always the clueless donk?

what's a donk anyway, does that mean I am a clueless donk?  :headscratch:

semp


Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: Chalenge on November 25, 2009, 08:18:32 PM
A donk is street language for a butt (a BIG one using the a-word) which is surprising HTC allows rod to get away with that since you can get your post deleted just for using the word clown.  :confused:
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: lyric1 on November 25, 2009, 08:32:00 PM
A donk is street language for a butt (a BIG one using the a-word)

Well depends on what part of the world your from. Donk in Australia is slang for the engine of a vehicle. As in I wonder what kind of donk is in this blue :airplane: Airplane?
Title: Re: AFK 'ers
Post by: phatzo on November 25, 2009, 11:07:26 PM
Well depends on what part of the world your from. Donk in Australia is slang for the engine of a vehicle. As in I wonder what kind of donk is in this blue :airplane: Airplane?
also heard it used here to describe another part of the male anatomy