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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Bruv119 on November 25, 2009, 01:52:15 AM
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Yes please,
Can we look at getting perked options for different wing types?
Like a clipped Spit 5 or a C wing on the spit 9 :t
Oh and maybe a Spit mkXII + a Seafire III. I would like as many options as possible to fully appreciate the wonderful progression from the earlier marks to the deadly 150 octane true Late war spits and not the limp wristed slow Spit 16 !
not to forget the trusty old Hurricane IIb with the mk a,c and D why skip the B? The D was just a B with 40mm strapped on an option to remove those for 12x 303's?
Sea Hurricane?
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BLASPHEMER! :O
BURN THE WITCH! :furious
I want my 109G10 or a G6 AS or a G14 AS FIRST
So there :neener: :neener: :neener: :devil
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BLASPHEMER! :O
BURN THE WITCH! :furious
I want my 109G10 or a G6 AS or a G14 AS FIRST
So there :neener: :neener: :neener: :devil
have them all WRAG !!!
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I take it you like spits!! :D
I am really starting to dig on the 16, I thought the Hurri2C was great for fighting the Horde, the 16 is way beyond that, if I could aim the way some of these guys do, Cough Grizz,Steve,Cough I swear I could kill 10 guys all trying to kill me at the same time.
in that ship! she is Awesome, plain and simple.
I cant believe some of the crap I have gotten out of because I was in the 16, fighting way too many to count, getting 3 scalps, running out of ammo and still being able to RTB.
so ya I like spits also :D
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I would agree with giving you two Spitfires for every Mustang added if you let me choose the Mustangs. :D
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I would very much like a RAF P51A with 4x 20mm
what would you fancy challenge ? P51 K or H? dang the H didn't see service shucks
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When I was working on the default Spit skins I asked if it would be possible to have options for things like different wingtips and air filters (for scenarios) selectable in the hangar. IIRC the answer was that it would not be possible, those items would need a new variant to be added to the game.
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have them all WRAG !!!
Now all we gotta do is convince HTC :rofl
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Oh and Greebo is a heckkitty CHEATER! :D
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I would very much like a RAF P51A with 4x 20mm
what would you fancy challenge ? P51 K or H? dang the H didn't see service shucks
The A didnt have cannons. The P-51 did (Mustang IA). The K is the same thing as a D.
I would add the P-51 and the A-36 both but the P-51A might be interesting too. The A-36 would come in handy in North Africa for scenarios and later on in Italy also. I would love to see the P-51 in FSO scenarios as a limited number fast recce but in the mid war arena it would give Typhoons a tough time I think.
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(http://www.deroeck.co.uk/Spitfire-pictures/Spitfire-Mk-XIV-JE-J-03.jpg)
(http://www.deroeck.co.uk/Spitfire-pictures/Spitfire-Mk-XIV-JE-J-04.jpg)
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clipped wing 14 yes very nice furball!
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(http://www.deroeck.co.uk/Spitfire-pictures/Spitfire-Mk-XIV-JE-J-03.jpg)
(http://www.deroeck.co.uk/Spitfire-pictures/Spitfire-Mk-XIV-JE-J-04.jpg)
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Maybe HTC could just create an all Spitfire game for you so you and the rest of the Spitboiz can play in your own sandbox.
Wouldn't be long before the dreaded "boredom" sets in... :joystick:
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The C wing was specific to the Spitfire V which had the A, B and C wings. The C was also known as the Universal wing and was used on the Spit VII, VIII, IX, XII and XIV. It was not designated the C wing on them however. Later the E wing was developed and used on the IX, XVI XIV and did receive the letter designation.
The Spitfire IX we have in AH has the Universal wing already.
As for the Spit XII, I'm all for it as it's my long time history passion. That being said, there are many other birds that should come first to fill out the plane set before that.
As for a clipped XIV. They really didn't show up until postwar. The wartime XIVs had full span wings as they were interceptor/fighters. It was when the jets took over postwar and the XIV got relegated to the ground attack role, that the clipped XIVs were more prevalent.
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As for a clipped XIV. They really didn't show up until postwar. The wartime XIVs had full span wings as they were interceptor/fighters. It was when the jets took over postwar and the XIV got relegated to the ground attack role, that the clipped XIVs were more prevalent.
You know... there are times when you could conveniently not see certain posts... for the benefit of AH. This is one of those times. :devil
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I want more spitfires!!! :x
:cheers:
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+1 on the VII!!! Schwing!
(http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo228/orbitingformats/schwing.jpg)
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Maybe HTC could just create an all Spitfire game for you so you and the rest of the Spitboiz can play in your own sandbox.
Wouldn't be long before the dreaded "boredom" sets in... :joystick:
as if upping in your fast movers for 1 and 2 hours at a time bnzing from 40k was so much fun. :rofl
semp
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What other spits above XIV saw service in WWII?
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More! MORE Spitfires!!!!! :O :aok :x :x
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What other spits above XIV saw service in WWII?
Spitfire F.Mk XVIII and Spitfire F.21, but both saw very little action or service.
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I asked one how much for the Mk XII. Here is the answer I recieved.
Bronk. I'm thinking in the 200 bottles of craigenmore range.
HiTech
Who's with me. :x
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The C wing was specific to the Spitfire V which had the A, B and C wings. The C was also known as the Universal wing and was used on the Spit VII, VIII, IX, XII and XIV. It was not designated the C wing on them however. Later the E wing was developed and used on the IX, XVI XIV and did receive the letter designation.
The Spitfire IX we have in AH has the Universal wing already.
As for the Spit XII, I'm all for it as it's my long time history passion. That being said, there are many other birds that should come first to fill out the plane set before that.
As for a clipped XIV. They really didn't show up until postwar. The wartime XIVs had full span wings as they were interceptor/fighters. It was when the jets took over postwar and the XIV got relegated to the ground attack role, that the clipped XIVs were more prevalent.
Woo would ya look at all the diffrent kind of spits!
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Spitfire F.Mk XVIII and Spitfire F.21, but both saw very little action or service.
XVIII didn't make it in WW2. Spit 21 saw service with 91 Squadron but never encountered aircraft. Two shot down by flak and they claimed a midget sub off the hook of Holland.
And no we don't need a Spit 21 :) The XII? of course!
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haha yea, more Spitfires!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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MORE SPITTIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:banana:
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We need A Mk XII, Mk 21 and the unperking of the XIV. :x
And a Vc and some more Seafires. :D
And maybe when we add enough aircraft a XVIII could be added. :x
What was the next spit after the Mk I ?
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What was the next spit after the Mk I ?
Mk II ? :lol
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(http://www.deroeck.co.uk/Spitfire-pictures/Spitfire-Mk-XIV-JE-J-03.jpg)
(http://www.deroeck.co.uk/Spitfire-pictures/Spitfire-Mk-XIV-JE-J-04.jpg)
the spit is absolutely a work of art. beautiful! :aok
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My wish list:
Clipped/Cropped Mk.V
Seafire Mk.III (LIIC we have in game is a pig, probably just easier to import from WarBirds as the perf stuff was already known. III was more plentiful during the war anyway and carried RPs/bomb)
Mk V Trop for N. Africa/Med.
Mk.XII (if you think the Mk XIV is a torque wrench, try this on for size, not a noob plane by any means)
Bubble topped Mk XIV
Beaufighter (oops)
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We need A Mk XII, Mk 21 and the unperking of the XIV. :x
And a Vc and some more Seafires. :D
And maybe when we add enough aircraft a XVIII could be added. :x
What was the next spit after the Mk I ?
Before you get carried away.
We don't "Need" any more Spitfires. Yes as a Spitfire XII history junkie, I'd enjoy it, but we don't need it.
Your question asking about what Spitfire came after the I tells me you need to do little research on your own to learn about the different Spitfire types and how they came about. Learning about the I vs II designation would be a start. It's a bit like the guys who don't know what the similarity and differences are between the IX and the XVI or the XIV and XVIII.
HTC has done a good job in giving us a nice cross section of representative Spitfire marks that give us performance and armament across the spectrum of Spit types.
Too many other birds we don't have at all to worry about more Spits. And trust me on this I can talk Spitfire with the best of em :aok
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My wish list:
Clipped/Cropped Mk.V
Seafire Mk.III (LIIC we have in game is a pig, probably just easier to import from WarBirds as the perf stuff was already known. III was more plentiful during the war anyway and carried RPs/bomb)
Mk V Trop for N. Africa/Med.
Mk.XII (if you think the Mk XIV is a torque wrench, try this on for size, not a noob plane by any means)
Bubble topped Mk XIV
Beaufighter (oops)
Beaufighter is a good example of what comes long before another Spitfire variant. And again, I love the Spitfire XII and have researched it for years long before I found airwarrior and later AH
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given the big emphasis on carrier use in AH, Seafire Mk.III and Mk.XV would be great additions :aok
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Hello!
You chaps know that we basically flew Spitfires for years... so, I'm a proud Spitdweeb :) . But I must agree with Guppy. We need the He-111, the G4M, some russian models, some italian models and some french models.
I believe that the mid and late war planeset,as it is,is vast and sufficiently comprehensive to be considered closed for a couple of years... Let HTC close the planeset.
Cheers,
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Before you get carried away.
We don't "Need" any more Spitfires. Yes as a Spitfire XII history junkie, I'd enjoy it, but we don't need it.
Your question asking about what Spitfire came after the I tells me you need to do little research on your own to learn about the different Spitfire types and how they came about. Learning about the I vs II designation would be a start. It's a bit like the guys who don't know what the similarity and differences are between the IX and the XVI or the XIV and XVIII.
HTC has done a good job in giving us a nice cross section of representative Spitfire marks that give us performance and armament across the spectrum of Spit types.
Too many other birds we don't have at all to worry about more Spits. And trust me on this I can talk Spitfire with the best of em :aok
I usually do the research, But today was thanksgiving. I had to leave and go to my grandma's house. It was a short notice question.
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given the big emphasis on carrier use in AH, Seafire Mk.III and Mk.XV would be great additions :aok
XV is the Royal Navy version of the XII. Yes I love that bird too but it's postwar. Didn't get into operations during WW2.
Seafire III would make sense. Kev can make that pitch for that one though. He's done the best job presenting the reasons why )
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I usually do the research, But today was thanksgiving. I had to leave and go to my grandma's house. It was a short notice question.
OK the quick answer then. The Spitfire II is the Spitfire I built at the second Supermarine production plant at Castle Bromwich. About the only way to tell the difference beyond serial number is the Koffman starter bulge on the right side of the cowling. Later IIs had a rounded propeller spinner as well.
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BLASPHEMER! :O
BURN THE WITCH! :furious
I want my 109G10 or a G6 AS or a G14 AS FIRST
So there :neener: :neener: :neener: :devil
Ehem? You are forgetting my KI-43 and A5M.
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It says that the spitfires sometimes used a 4 20mm cannon wing.
How much perkies will it take to get a V with 4 20mm? : :x
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It says that the spitfires sometimes used a 4 20mm cannon wing.
How much perkies will it take to get a V with 4 20mm? : :x
Please oh please use the search function before starting this up again.
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Hello!
You chaps know that we basically flew Spitfires for years... so, I'm a proud Spitdweeb :) . But I must agree with Guppy. We need the He-111, the G4M, some russian models, some italian models and some french models.
I believe that the mid and late war planeset,as it is,is vast and sufficiently comprehensive to be considered closed for a couple of years... Let HTC close the planeset.
Cheers,
we dont need planes that very few people will fly as an example the p39 how many people wanted it? and now sometimes I go days without seeing one, shoot, I see more in 262's than p39's. to have planes just for the sake of having them is just a waste of resources. how many people fly the two newest planes now? since its not a novelty anymore, very few people up in them. spitfires are always heavily used in this game and adding more of them would be a better use of resources.
semp
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And everyone wants something else. :uhoh
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And everyone wants something else. :uhoh
Isn't that the truth. Tons of planes but it's always the next one that matters.
As for the 39. There are lots of folks who fly em, just for the challenge. I kinda like the 39Q. I've got one die hard 80th squadie, Soulyss who flies the D model often.
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we dont need planes that very few people will fly as an example the p39 how many people wanted it? and now sometimes I go days without seeing one, shoot, I see more in 262's than p39's. to have planes just for the sake of having them is just a waste of resources. how many people fly the two newest planes now? since its not a novelty anymore, very few people up in them. spitfires are always heavily used in this game and adding more of them would be a better use of resources.
semp
How would more Spits help Semp? What don't you have? For AH the XVI is about as good as you are gonna get in terms of performance. As AH is much more of a low level air war, the performance of the XVI fits perfectly.
As I said, I'm a Spitfire XII history fanatic. It's performance would be comparable to the XVI the way it's used in AH. So we get a XII. Outside of those of us who know it's history, how is it going to benefit the game overall? So it puts some of the XVI's in the hanger for a bit. Half the folks in AH think that because it's labeled XVI it must be a better plane then the XIV. So the XII would go into the hanger soon enough as well as the E wing on the XVI has more punch then the Universal wing on the XII.
There is no Spitfire you could add that would enhance gameplay. HTC has that covered with the Spit line up we have.
Again, I'd love my Spit XII, but there are too many other birds out there the game could use first.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/EBB1-1.jpg)
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we dont need planes that very few people will fly as an example the p39 how many people wanted it? and now sometimes I go days without seeing one, shoot, I see more in 262's than p39's. to have planes just for the sake of having them is just a waste of resources. how many people fly the two newest planes now? since its not a novelty anymore, very few people up in them. spitfires are always heavily used in this game and adding more of them would be a better use of resources.
semp
There aren't many aircraft that would see much use in the MA left to be added, so your request is almost tantamount to saying "Please don't add any new aircraft."
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XV is the Royal Navy version of the XII. Yes I love that bird too but it's postwar. Didn't get into operations during WW2.
ahh didnt realise that, seems strange they took so long to get a folding wing griffon seafire into action when XII and XIV were available from 42/43. that would be a carrier beast :D
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Seafire_1.jpg)
spits must be the most confusing series of aircraft ever produced :headscratch:
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we dont need planes that very few people will fly as an example the p39 how many people wanted it? and now sometimes I go days without seeing one, shoot, I see more in 262's than p39's. to have planes just for the sake of having them is just a waste of resources. how many people fly the two newest planes now? since its not a novelty anymore, very few people up in them. spitfires are always heavily used in this game and adding more of them would be a better use of resources.
semp
Wait till i get my gaming rig fixed... :D
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Maybe HTC could just create an all Spitfire game for you so you and the rest of the Spitboiz can play in your own sandbox.
Wouldn't be long before the dreaded "boredom" sets in... :joystick:
you mean you would be bored as 90% of the player base swapped to the spitfire game? :D
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OK Dan, as you asked nicely ;-)
First - Jocko, what we have in-game is the Seafire IIc (read on), not the LIIc.
The initial 3 months of Seafire production seen it fitted with a Merlin 45/46 = IIc.
The Merlin 45/46 proved unsatisfactory, so........
All subsequent Seafire IIcs were fitted as standard with the Merlin 32 = LIIc.
All the initial batch of IIc's were retrofitted with the Merlin 32 and became LIIc's.
Seafire LIII fitted with Merlin 55M (same motor as our old Vc), and many many flew clipped!!!
Seafire LIII was the most produced version of ANY wartime Seafire.
Production numbers -
IIc - 312 (Sept 42 - Nov 42) subsequently all refitted to LIIc specs
LIIc - 60 (Nov 42 --->)
LRIII - <10 (LIII with cameras)
LIII - 1263 (Nov 43 --->)
Pics -
All 3 bladed prop Seafires are IIc's.
4 bladed prop, 6 ejector stacks no wing fold are LIIc's
4 bladed prop, 6 ejector stack and wing fold are LIII's
Interestingly the FAA never learnt from the Seafire IIc problems and the very first few Seafire III's were produced with the Merlin 55 and designated FIII's. In very short time this was replaced by the low alt 55M and they were designated LIII's.
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How would more Spits help Semp? What don't you have? For AH the XVI is about as good as you are gonna get in terms of performance. As AH is much more of a low level air war, the performance of the XVI fits perfectly.
As I said, I'm a Spitfire XII history fanatic. It's performance would be comparable to the XVI the way it's used in AH. So we get a XII. Outside of those of us who know it's history, how is it going to benefit the game overall? So it puts some of the XVI's in the hanger for a bit. Half the folks in AH think that because it's labeled XVI it must be a better plane then the XIV. So the XII would go into the hanger soon enough as well as the E wing on the XVI has more punch then the Universal wing on the XII.
There is no Spitfire you could add that would enhance gameplay. HTC has that covered with the Spit line up we have.
Again, I'd love my Spit XII, but there are too many other birds out there the game could use first.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/EBB1-1.jpg)
actually the point I was trying to make is to add planes that are actually gonna be used. adding planes just because we dont have them its a waste of time (I know eventually every single plane, truck, sheep used in ww2 is going to be added). Me I am happy flying the spit8, i only fly the spit16 when I need to bomb something, and the spit9 when the eny gets too high. and when I get bored and wanna waste some time I fly the p47 (any of them) I like their unlimited ammo. spitfires will probably get used more than some Italian, Russian plane, etc.
but if you really wanna add planes that would enhance gameplay and that are actually gonna be used then get the a26. or you can add another p39 that will sit in the hangar for the occasional player to use.
semp
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actually the point I was trying to make is to add planes that are actually gonna be used. adding planes just because we dont have them its a waste of time (I know eventually every single plane, truck, sheep used in ww2 is going to be added).
semp
I am sorry Semp, I could not disagree more with your positions on this matter. How can you say that it is a waste of time and resources to develop Aces High into the most complete WW2 MMOG possible? You say we don't need soviet, italian, french or japanese planesets representative of these countries WW2 aeronautical involvement? I really don't understand how you can support that statement.
Aces High is, by definition, a WW2 MMOG that intends to depict, as close as HTC can, WW2 warfare. In your opinion, WW2 was a US/UK/Germany conflict? In your opinion, WW2 only happened between 43 and 45? I'm sorry, this is an extremely limited view of what Aces High is, represents and stands for.
Have you ever participated in scenarios or flew in historical setups in AvA? Have you never realised how limited is our current planeset? Have you ever felt the frustration when you must pretend that the TBM in front of you is a Blenheim? Or that a Bf-110 may replace a Japanese model? Or that a JU-88 may replace a He-111 over London in BoB? Sir, with all due respect, that is a very egocentric way to think. And, regret to say, totally LW-MAish... Because it can't even be MW-MAish or EA-MAish...
I'm tired of this "Hangar Queen" talk. All the Late War uber-rides are "Hangar Queens" - when they were not melted in junkyards - in museums all over the world in our days. These "Hangar Queens" were the mainstays of all airforces involved in this particular conflict until considered obsolete and replaced. All countries, not only three. All years, not only the last. All Theaters of Operations, not only a MA Pizza war.
We don't need more Spitfires. We don't need more Bf-109's. We don't need more P-38's or P-47's. We don't need B-29's and we don't need the Nuke. We don't need Meteors, F-86's or Mig-15's. To make Aces High complete, we need a dozen of fundamental models.
What we don't need is this closed mind attitude.
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We will get you load o' Spits right after we get our LaGGs and Yaks, along with our Ki-43s and G4Ms. Wait, can't forget the IAR 80 and 81, nor Beaufigher or Blenheim, or especially the "junker" called the He-111. Heck, even an actual P-40E would come before more Spitfires.
sparow, :rock on!
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I'm glad to see we are all agreed that we need more spitfires.
Ty all for posting :aok
get to work HTC! :cheers:
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<--- Would love to see the Seafire LIII modelled. I remember when the old spitfire Vc was the #1 for kills a/c in AH :)
i'm a biased FAA fanbois nowadays. :banana:
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actually the point I was trying to make is to add planes that are actually gonna be used. adding planes just because we dont have them its a waste of time (I know eventually every single plane, truck, sheep used in ww2 is going to be added). Me I am happy flying the spit8, i only fly the spit16 when I need to bomb something, and the spit9 when the eny gets too high. and when I get bored and wanna waste some time I fly the p47 (any of them) I like their unlimited ammo. spitfires will probably get used more than some Italian, Russian plane, etc.
but if you really wanna add planes that would enhance gameplay and that are actually gonna be used then get the a26. or you can add another p39 that will sit in the hangar for the occasional player to use.
semp
So what you are asking for is essentially only the latest and greatest high performance birds be added? Might as well limit the plane set to just a few planes then or make it Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe. Since the majority of the planes in the game don't have that kind of performance there was little point in adding most of them
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Jocko, what we have in-game is the Seafire IIc (read on), not the LIIc.
OMG! It's even worse than I thought! Seafire III in AH now! :devil
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Did our old Spitfire Mk.V come in clipped wing form? :D
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nope but it did come with extra horse power and double the 20mm loadout. :rock
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There's a clipped Mk. V in FA, I take it's an Ve?
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There's a clipped Mk. V in FA, I take it's an Ve?
:lol i was about to mention that but then I remembered FA is a crap game for weak pilots who are better off here. :aok
5 years gone by nearly. But yea it rocked the 16 haters will have a new ride to hate on.
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:lol i was about to mention that but then I remembered FA is a crap game for weak pilots who are better off here. :aok
5 years gone by nearly. But yea it rocked the 16 haters will have a new ride to hate on.
I couldn't find any info about a Spitfire Mk. Ve on the Spitfire performance website. I take it FA just made that model up?
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Can't we have them all . Man I guess I am going to be unpopular . I would love to see EVERY plane from WW2 here . WTH maybe even a UFO arena with all of the stuff that ALMOST made it into action .
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There's a clipped Mk. V in FA, I take it's an Ve?
No such animal as a Ve.
Also clipped is independent of wing armament type. Spits from the V onwards could be clipped, typically on C wings, and from the IX onwards on C and E wings.
Our old LF Vc with the Merlin 55M would have been even better clipped, shame it's gone :-( .
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how many people fly the two newest planes now? since its not a novelty anymore, very few people up in them.
Brewster is now averaging roughly 2500 kills per tour which puts it about middle in the kills scored per plane list. Higher than things like F4U-1 and P-38G for example. It's being flown.
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No such animal as a Ve.
Also clipped is independent of wing armament type. Spits from the V onwards could be clipped, typically on C wings, and from the IX onwards on C and E wings.
Our old LF Vc with the Merlin 55M would have been even better clipped, shame it's gone :-( .
Thanks for clearing that up for me Kev. :aok
Our old LF Vc would have been a mini monster with clipped wings. Wasn't it just a little slower then our Mk. 9?
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the spit V did come clipped as the (gets my spit book ) LF VC and LF VB . most of the med and NA spit V's were clipped as high aly work was done by spit IX by that time of the war (in Italy). i have operational photos to prove. On the 4 20mm note . Spit VIII in the far east would fit the 4 20mm when they were given ground pounding rolls (quite common by the end of the Burma campaign)
the seafire Mk XV saw service in 1944 and was griffon engined climb rate of 4000 Ft per min and top speed of 390 Mph . It also had the Mk V 20mm cannon wich had a higher rate of fire and shorter barrel.