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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: newz on December 08, 2009, 02:02:43 PM
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To all the lil generals who constantly preach the "art of porking" and how "sad" it is
that the "knights" don't pork.
Warning large type ahead...........
Guess what? Folk don't pork because it's boring!
Got it?
We got a little lesson from the pork generals last night......
"see we pokers porked the rook front while you were doing FA furballing and now look.....
there are almost no red dar bars along the rook front."
:rolleyes:X10K
To you and your ilk, the disappearance of red dar bars is a good thing. :headscratch:
To those who have a playing style like myself, plenty of red dar bars means loads of action
and hence fun.
So please would you kindly stop "running" your silly little mouths about how the rest of us suck.
You do your "dirt farming"/ copyright shuffler? and we'll do our combat. Okie Dokie?
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why on earth would you want aerial combat in a massively multiplayer Online game?
:rolleyes:
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Pork is good!
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PORK .... the other white meat.
:devil
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To all the lil generals
It helps if you keep a perspective on where these guys are coming from. They all suck in fighters so they try to find meaning in the game by attempting to dictate gameplay through country channel rants.
You can bet if they are regularly crying about their chess piece losing the war, they suck in fighters.
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PORK .... the other white meat.
:devil
I had some pork on sunday it wasn't that cheap but tough as old boots!!! :mad: think i'll have chicken next week.
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worth it for good crackling mmmmmmmmmmm
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To all the lil generals who constantly preach the "art of porking" and how "sad" it is
that the "knights" don't pork.
Warning large type ahead...........
Guess what? Folk don't pork because it's boring!
Got it?
We got a little lesson from the pork generals last night......
"see we pokers porked the rook front while you were doing FA furballing and now look.....
there are almost no red dar bars along the rook front."
:rolleyes:X10K
To you and your ilk, the disappearance of red dar bars is a good thing. :headscratch:
To those who have a playing style like myself, plenty of red dar bars means loads of action
and hence fun.
So please would you kindly stop "running" your silly little mouths about how the rest of us suck.
You do your "dirt farming"/ copyright shuffler? and we'll do our combat. Okie Dokie?
I probably agree with what you are saying but I cant bring myself to read it.
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Pork On The Way . :D
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To all the lil generals who constantly preach the "art of porking" and how "sad" it is
that the "knights" don't pork.
Warning large type ahead...........
Guess what? Folk don't pork because it's boring!
Got it?
We got a little lesson from the pork generals last night......
"see we pokers porked the rook front while you were doing FA furballing and now look.....
there are almost no red dar bars along the rook front."
:rolleyes:X10K
To you and your ilk, the disappearance of red dar bars is a good thing. :headscratch:
To those who have a playing style like myself, plenty of red dar bars means loads of action
and hence fun.
So please would you kindly stop "running" your silly little mouths about how the rest of us suck.
You do your "dirt farming"/ copyright shuffler? and we'll do our combat. Okie Dokie?
maybe some people find furballing boring, furball lake is a good place to go for that. The 'porkers' are no doubt saving your own front line bases from getting trashed so you can enjoy your furballing. Your AH experience may just be a little better if you tried all aspects of the game, but hey, Its your $15
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It helps if you keep a perspective on where these guys are coming from. They all suck in fighters so they try to find meaning in the game by attempting to dictate gameplay through country channel rants.
You can bet if they are regularly crying about their chess piece losing the war, they suck in fighters.
Normally I'd let this hubris go by without comment, but you speak of perspective.
If all of us who "suck in fighters" left the game, there would only be a few hundred people left. Perhaps HTC needs to make private arenas available for elitists to enjoy excluding the unwashed masses. Then those who are opposite of "sucking" - those that "blow in fighters" - could self actualize.
With that said, I do not condone country channel rants, either. The OP is a rant against rants ... can't we all just get along?
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Porking front line bases just means your losing your frontline fight. Which means your hording some undefended base somewhere. :rolleyes:
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maybe some people find furballing boring, furball lake is a good place to go for that. The 'porkers' are no doubt saving your own front line bases from getting trashed so you can enjoy your furballing. Your AH experience may just be a little better if you tried all aspects of the game, but hey, Its your $15
If you knew anything about furballing you'd know that the so-called furball lake.... is not.
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Actually I find alot of todays generals dont even pork actually they dont defend bases at all........they just go for the most field captures in the tour..........and their name is DogBite :devil
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Normally I'd let this hubris go by without comment, but you speak of perspective.
If all of us who "suck in fighters" left the game, there would only be a few hundred people left. Perhaps HTC needs to make private arenas available for elitists to enjoy excluding the unwashed masses. Then those who are opposite of "sucking" - those that "blow in fighters" - could self actualize.
With that said, I do not condone country channel rants, either. The OP is a rant against rants ... can't we all just get along?
They already have one for those that do not feel they are up to snuff. It is called the Training Arena. Why add more arenas.
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They already have one for those that do not feel they are up to snuff. It is called the Training Arena. Why add more arenas.
I'm not trying to be glib, but the TA is for people who need very basic help. No one comes out of the TA ready to tangle with Steve in a P-51.
I picked on Steve's post, who I respect in game for the simple fact that he sends me to the tower quite often, cussing all the way, but it is a broader issue. Allow me to lecture.
Porking, dirt farming, tool shedding, land grabbing, or whatever, leads to fights. No air combat would have ever occurred in real life if it had not been for the need to deny the enemy access to the sky for reconnaissance, ground attack, ship attacks, strategic bombing, and all those other activities beneath the 'purists.'
Again, this does not justify ranting on channel. Let people do as they want. I spent this weekend getting spanked by Muppets, cussing all the way to the tower. I had a choice to go fly somewhere else, but I am stubborn sometimes.
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Porking, dirt farming, tool shedding, land grabbing, or whatever, leads to fights.
How so..... I see them trying to kill fights or the other sides ability to fight all together.
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Hell I'm one of those who sucks. But guess what? There are plenty left out there that suck worst than I do. Besides I am actually getting a little better each day. Still suck just not as bad.
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Speak for yourself sir. in my years of AH playing I have tried some of everything. I even got fairly good in a couple fighters for a while but found the Fur ball got boring for me after a bit. I needed more from the game then just up a plane and kill or be killed.
For the last several months I kept paying for AH but hardly felt like logging on at all until HT changed the strat and now I feel like bombing the ever loving crap out of it and daring those who will to stop me. Porking fields in my 26's is just as much fun for me as a long strat run or a good fight in a fighter. but I need a little of everything to keep my interest going in game.
Last night was good fun for example, I decided to pork A35 I believe it was on Baltic in order to keep the rooks from bombing bishland and on my second pass Skishill came in with a 109 and chased me back to bishland killing 2 and smoking an engine in my 26's before I finally popped him. And had him and 1 or 2 others try to get me on the next run. It continued on like this until I loged for the night. Was good fun all around.
We play in a game with many different types of people who like several different types of things in game that constitute fun for them. The game has been designed to facilitate your style of play IE dog fighting, as well as those that like to pork and play a more tactical or strategic game. The players you describe were playing the game from a tactical point of view, stopping others from hitting their front line bases by destroying enemy resources on the front.
As for saying that everyone who likes to pork bases does it is because they are no good in fighters.... I don't believe this is really the case, I feel it is more that some just don't get the same enjoyment out of the furball as you and others do so they find something else they enjoy doing more.
Again it comes down to the fact that everyone playing pay $15 per month and are permitted to play the game the way they like with in the programming that HTC has put in place...
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Normally I'd let this hubris go by without comment, but you speak of perspective.
If all of us who "suck in fighters" left the game, there would only be a few hundred people left. Perhaps HTC needs to make private arenas available for elitists to enjoy excluding the unwashed masses. Then those who are opposite of "sucking" - those that "blow in fighters" - could self actualize.
Ahh nice try mr straw man. I have no problem with people who suck in fighters. I could do without armchair Generals. All armchair Generals suck in fighters. Not all who suck in fighters are armchair Generals.
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Actually I find alot of todays generals dont even pork actually they dont defend bases at all........they just go for the most field captures in the tour..........and their name is DogBite :devil
I observed this just last night! I don't usually pay attention to the land grab besides how it relates to enemy darbars. Late last night, rooks were hording a base next to .. whatever team I was on(same team as 1dogfite).. anyway right next to their 163 base and thus quite close to HQ. Half way up the map, 1dogfite and his crew were trying to take a base that really seemd to be of no significance. They were calling for help to cap the town, all the while the rooks pounded the base close to HQ against little defense.
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I'm not the one spamming country channel with nonsensical claims that
"furballers are costing us the map again".
You want to pork? Be my freaking guest. Gather up your like minded fellows
and off you go.
With a little luck you can shut down fighting on both fronts! :rolleyes:
As far as, "maybe you should try other aspects of the game" goes, believe
me I have.
NOE captures....check (wtg fellows we got it so quick not even 1 upper)
40 guy hoard circling dead field awaiting goon....check (wtg guys we slaughtered them)
porking............check (started to hate when we captured fields in old squad cause porking always followed, yawn)
buffing .......... check ( spent nearly 2 years(o the horror) in these lumbering time killers, doing my part to "win the war")
The thing I found really interesting in last nights country spamming was the complete opposite way of thinking between
these "generals" and myself.
They don't like red dar bars and I do.
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Wow
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Speak for yourself sir. in my years of AH playing I have tried some of everything. I even got fairly good in a couple fighters for a while but found the Fur ball got boring for me after a bit. I needed more from the game then just up a plane and kill or be killed.
For the last several months I kept paying for AH but hardly felt like logging on at all until HT changed the strat and now I feel like bombing the ever loving crap out of it and daring those who will to stop me. Porking fields in my 26's is just as much fun for me as a long strat run or a good fight in a fighter. but I need a little of everything to keep my interest going in game.
Last night was good fun for example, I decided to pork A35 I believe it was on Baltic in order to keep the rooks from bombing bishland and on my second pass Skishill came in with a 109 and chased me back to bishland killing 2 and smoking an engine in my 26's before I finally popped him. And had him and 1 or 2 others try to get me on the next run. It continued on like this until I loged for the night. Was good fun all around.
We play in a game with many different types of people who like several different types of things in game that constitute fun for them. The game has been designed to facilitate your style of play IE dog fighting, as well as those that like to pork and play a more tactical or strategic game. The players you describe were playing the game from a tactical point of view, stopping others from hitting their front line bases by destroying enemy resources on the front.
As for saying that everyone who likes to pork bases does it is because they are no good in fighters.... I don't believe this is really the case, I feel it is more that some just don't get the same enjoyment out of the furball as you and others do so they find something else they enjoy doing more.
Again it comes down to the fact that everyone playing pay $15 per month and are permitted to play the game the way they like with in the programming that HTC has put in place...
lol you can pay your 15 bucks... but if your play is gamey don't complain when you hear about it. BTW as far as I'm concerned you can keep you 15.... you add nothing to the game.
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BTW as far as I'm concerned you can keep you 15.... you add nothing to the game.
So what if he doesn't cater to your tastes? He adds nothing to Y O U R game. :rolleyes:
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Oh look.
Another thread bashing someone else's style of play. What a refreshing change.
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worth it for good crackling mmmmmmmmmmm
I've got to agree with you there Jimmy...fresh pig crackling is to die for.
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They don't like red dar bars and I do.
So do I newz...it usually means some good air to air fighter combat. :salute
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Pork Generals are only following this guys orders...
Seeing the Armchair Generals and the "Irony" posts, I thought I'd combine the topics and deliver a short story.
General Emo, Our Savior...
There is a player logging on now right now. He pulls up his map and his upper lip purses. He checks the war status and has to loosen his scarf as he begins to feel his body warm. He removes his flying goggles and wipes them hoping that he has read the numbers incorrectly. Alas, he has not. His country is losing the very real war, and they do not seem to care. Someone will pay for not taking care of his country while he's been offline.
He hunkers down in his ergonomic chair and devises a plan on a dry erase board next to his monitor.
1. Berate all of the country for letting it go this far.
2. Find Followers.
3. Pick an easy target and make mission.
4. **^^^^**********ADVERTISE********^^^^^*
5. Blame anyone who didn't join mission when it fails.
I'm gonna go fly now. You should too. :D
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lol you can pay your 15 bucks... but if your play is gamey don't complain when you hear about it. BTW as far as I'm concerned you can keep you 15.... you add nothing to the game.
And you add nothing to the game either sir, I find your style of play just as boring and gamy as you find mine so it would seem we are at an impasse.. I bomb strat and enjoy the fight to and from my target and you up a plane and get a kill or are killed. Well unless you are in a ship gun landing 26 kills like you did last night. :)
I would tell you to keep your $15 as well but that might derive me of the pleasure of killing you in my 26's some day. :D
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The holidays are blessed with its new season of AH BBS drama...
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Porking, dirt farming, tool shedding, land grabbing, or whatever, leads to fights. No air combat would have ever occurred in real life if it had not been for the need to deny the enemy access to the sky for reconnaissance, ground attack, ship attacks, strategic bombing, and all those other activities beneath the 'purists.'
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Ruf, I have no qualms about any of that and I don't interfere with how others want to have fun in the game, with the exception of those I shoot at. Quite recently, I got in a debate with a couple of guys who said I don't care about my team because I don't help take bases. etc. My point is, the armchair generals are pretty annoying... although I confess sometimes they are so rediculous that they are funny.
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For all the bravado on these BBs every time I enter the game, somewhere on the map, there's a hoard attacking a base unopposed. Lately I've been upping at those bases like I used to in the old days. I continually wonder where all the guys who "love red dar bars" are.
Oh... wait... they only love red dar bars if there's also a green dar bar.
:rolleyes:
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For all the bravado on these BBs every time I enter the game, somewhere on the map, there's a hoard attacking a base unopposed. Lately I've been upping at those bases like I used to in the old days. I continually wonder where all the guys who "love red dar bars" are.
Oh... wait... they only love red dar bars if there's also a green dar bar.
:rolleyes:
I mentioned darbars.. are you referring to me?
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Have no problem with the idea of attacking objects in and of itself, but "Porking" and "hangar banging" as they are generally known do not greatly resemble historical missions.
Tell me where in WWII you could deny the enemy bombs by sending one suicide 190 or La7 over on the deck to strafe a few buildings...
That generally leaves tank and cv killing as the realistic options for attack planes.
The new strat system was designed to give buffs something realistic to do, but will probably not see great success in that regard.
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Toolshedders, Furballers, and porkers are all connected you cant have one with out the others plain and simple. Toolsheeders keep the strat down so your bases dont get overwhelmed. Porkers pork the enemy fields so they dont drop your hangars so tyhe furball keeps going. And furballers keep enemy pilots busy not rollin like a steam roller.
For all those crying about porkers IE the guy who started this you remind me of those who love the furball but as soon as there precious FH are dropped are the first to whine about no one taking out the strat at a field to make sure that doesnt happen.
And Yes I do porking, toolshedding, and occasionally Furballin just depends on what I am the mood to do at that time.
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OK I read the inital commments and I see two sides evident. Those whose sole msision is to engage in air to air combat at all costs and the pilots who engage in that activity when times allows but do a substantial amount of time taking out ords and other targets so the first group has a base to do that from.
Our squad looks at the ultimate goal of the game which is to win the map. Furballing alone will not acomplish this. Nor will porking alone.
Our squad has become increasingly frustrated as what we are seeing on the knight side as a definite increase in knights engaging in the furball while our bases are being porked and overrun in coordinated attacks by rooks and bish. I can work togeher with anybody but It is apparent that some comments in this thread have been directed at our squad as we have made an effort to make our side aware of the importance of coordinated attacks. We would just like to have some help on winning the map and this is why we are advertising what is going on.
If we can change a few peoples minds to begin working together then our goal is working. You can label me an armchair general if wish but in doing so you label yourself. As far ar sucking at piloting no doubt thats true for myself but dont put that on some of my other squaddies as they are some of the best in the game. But are you perhaps insecure in your ability to pork a base? Can you take down ords at a large airfield by yourself? Can you take down troops at a defended v-base? Can you view the map and determine where your side is weakest and coordinate attacks to limit the ability of the other side from expoliting that? If you can and you choose not to why bother flying main areana at all? The dueling arena offers unlimited opportuites to kill or be killed by some of the most experienced pilots in the game. Or is it you just like to see your name in lights..............
Gentlemen Fire Away ........... EZRhino
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Crying about porkers?
My complaint is about their constant spamming of country channel berating
those who refuse to spend their game time doing something they find boring.
Do you also spam country channel warchief?
Oh... wait... they only love red dar bars if there's also a green dar bar.
:rolleyes:
Anytime you feel man enough look me up. I'm usually flying knight on account of they
seem to be outnumbered when I log on.
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How so..... I see them trying to kill fights or the other sides ability to fight all together.
The premise is that fighters exist to control the sky over a tactical or strategic area. No air force in the world exists just to dog fight. Dog fighting is a means to an end. That end involves gorund attack, strategic bombing, interdiction, reconnaissance, etc.
In AH terms, how often does a busted base take become a good fur ball? Furball lake in the DA is what the game is when there are no objectives other than dog fighting.
With regards to the arm chair generals, they need to learn that there is no legitimate command authority in a game. Try persuasion instead of whining. A corollary is the amount of "alerts" in the text buffer that are either one plane or for a base that is already shut down. We could use less Chicken Littles.
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Our squad looks at the ultimate goal of the game which is to win the map.
and there are alot of us who dont care about the map.. there's always a new map. and it gets reset every week automatically anyway.
as for porking, as someone said, if you wanna pork, go pork... If I want ords or troops down at some base, I go do it myself.. the whining about it on country is annoying at the least..
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I mentioned darbars.. are you referring to me?
Nope. It was just a general comment.
Anytime you feel man enough look me up. I'm usually flying knight on account of they
seem to be outnumbered when I log on.
What does my comment have to do with you and what would end up being a duel?
BTW... "man enough"? In a game? I don't base my manhood on my ability to play a game. Obviously by your comment you do.
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Seriously - didnt we just do this thread with a different name?
The result was conclusive.
Whening teh whar is for toolbags. :aok
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And you add nothing to the game either sir, I find your style of play just as boring and gamy as you find mine so it would seem we are at an impasse.. I bomb strat and enjoy the fight to and from my target and you up a plane and get a kill or are killed. Well unless you are in a ship gun landing 26 kills like you did last night. :)
I would tell you to keep your $15 as well but that might derive me of the pleasure of killing you in my 26's some day. :D
Well stick around awhile... as you mature in game I think you'll see the game is about the fight.
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Well stick around awhile... as you mature in game I think you'll see the game is about the fight.
And that would be the fight in game, not the purse fight whining complaining waaa waaa boo hoo you won't play the game my way BS on the forums.
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Well stick around awhile... as you mature in game I think you'll see the game is about the fight.
THis is very true, I even noticed this trend in myself. When I started the game I wanted to win the war, and land grab as well... as I spent more time playing, I became more and more focused on the fight and/or furballing. nowadays I admit, I do complain about certain things.. such as RUINING A FIGHT by dropping all hangars, or NOE raids, although it can be funny to up with 1 or 2 guys and bust a NOE group of 15 110's or whatnot.. always good for a laugh, since most NOE attackers can't dogfight thier way out of a paper bag.
Sol
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What does my comment have to do with you
Can't believe I have to spell this out but here goes......
I said I liked red dar bars...
You called BS...
I suggested you look me up sometime and see for yourself.
ie. fly into said dar bars with me.
After all you were claiming that you never see anyone do this.
Whether in game or in real life my "manhood" is defined by me
putting my money where my mouth is.
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And that would be the fight in game, not the purse fight whining complaining waaa waaa boo hoo you won't play the game my way BS on the forums.
:aok
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Can't believe I have to spell this out but here goes......
I said I liked red dar bars...
You called BS...
I suggested you look me up sometime and see for yourself.
ie. fly into said dar bars with me.
After all you were claiming that you never see anyone do this.
Whether in game or in real life my "manhood" is defined by me
putting my money where my mouth is.
I wasn't directing my comment at any specific person, including you. It was just a general comment about something I see so often in these forums that seemed applicable to the discussion.
As I said, when I up at a base with nothing but red I'm almost always all by myself.
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grab a can of pork sode u will feel fine :neener:
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I'm not the one spamming country channel with nonsensical claims that
"furballers are costing us the map again".
You want to pork? Be my freaking guest. Gather up your like minded fellows
and off you go.
With a little luck you can shut down fighting on both fronts! :rolleyes:
As far as, "maybe you should try other aspects of the game" goes, believe
me I have.
NOE captures....check (wtg fellows we got it so quick not even 1 upper)
40 guy hoard circling dead field awaiting goon....check (wtg guys we slaughtered them)
porking............check (started to hate when we captured fields in old squad cause porking always followed, yawn)
buffing .......... check ( spent nearly 2 years(o the horror) in these lumbering time killers, doing my part to "win the war")
The thing I found really interesting in last nights country spamming was the complete opposite way of thinking between
these "generals" and myself.
They don't like red dar bars and I do.
dude......just red it and laugh at them.
anything they do, can only annoy you if you let it.
relax, have fun, shoot down a couple spixteens. :rofl :aok
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Oh look.
Another thread bashing someone else's style of play. What a refreshing change.
change you can believe in. :noid :bolt:
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For all the bravado on these BBs every time I enter the game, somewhere on the map, there's a hoard attacking a base unopposed. Lately I've been upping at those bases like I used to in the old days. I continually wonder where all the guys who "love red dar bars" are.
Oh... wait... they only love red dar bars if there's also a green dar bar.
:rolleyes:
they didn't say they love to go fight where they are. they just said they love them.
pretty colors. :noid
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Crying about porkers?
My complaint is about their constant spamming of country channel berating
those who refuse to spend their game time doing something they find boring.
Do you also spam country channel warchief?
Anytime you feel man enough look me up. I'm usually flying knight on account of they
seem to be outnumbered when I log on.
ooooo jeeze!! here comes the intardnet tough guy. :rolleyes:
same ole same ole......
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And that would be the fight in game, not the purse fight whining complaining waaa waaa boo hoo you won't play the game my way BS on the forums.
i sneezed while wearing my pink panties on my head the other night. now i have to resort back to the "bra on head" method. :noid :bolt:
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I wasn't directing my comment at any specific person, including you. It was just a general comment about something I see so often in these forums that seemed applicable to the discussion.
As I said, when I up at a base with nothing but red I'm almost always all by myself.
actually, i'm nowhere near good enough to do that. i generally up from a neighboring base, and fly 20 miles to die. :aok
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and there are alot of us who dont care about the map.. there's always a new map. and it gets reset every week automatically anyway.
as for porking, as someone said, if you wanna pork, go pork... If I want ords or troops down at some base, I go do it myself.. the whining about it on country is annoying at the least..
If it's annoying, the rest of us can introduce you to a very old game feature called .squelch (players ID) that way you can not have to view that person's text. Problem solved. Anything less is whining on your own part.
As for not caring about winning maps or contributing to your own country's efforts toward that I have to ask....when you were a kid did they give trophys for 9th place and "everybody" was a winner?
In my hometown if you weren't a state champion in something, you were a forgotten "also ran". And that's how many people who like competition think. Last I looked, AH was a multi-faceted competition that gave kudos to player in ALL facets of the game each tour.If you are in the habit of losing, and like it...then again, it's your $15 bucks.
To quote Patton..." I wouldn't give a hoot in Hell for a man who lost....and laughed."
Hey...play how you wish. It's your $15 bucks.
Personally, I believe jack of all trades squads are the meat and potatos of every country. I always thought that the guys who furballed in fighters almost exclusively did so because they sucked at bombing, porking, attack (dive bombing), mission skills, and ground vehicles. Those same elitists need to hop in a tank, button up the hatch, get on 200 and call out some LTAR's, flk4, dr7, or Rondar and ask for a gv 1 v 1 to show their game "uber-skills" and see what happens.
Take this example as to how the fighter elitists think WWII should have been fought:
(Scene: tent in the Egyptian Desert, dark of night, a table with chairs seating Generals from both sides)
Rommel: We are here today at this truce conference to try to agree on how the war should be fought.
Goering: The Air Forces of both sides should determine the outcome of the war--no bombs no rockets, only air to air combat.
Cunningham: Here-here! All bases are off limits and it should be up to the air forces to see who wins. No lands, bases or territories on either side should be taken!
Rommel: Then why, In Cod's name are there enemy tanks and ground vehicles on both sides, as well as each's ability to take away one's enemy's ability to make war?
Patton: Well observed Irwin, all my tanks and troops are here just itching for battle, why leave it up to a bunch of scarf wearing pansies? I say WAR is based on killing the enemy at every opportunity and bombing everything they have into the stone age.
Montgomery: I personnaly hate to agree with a Neanderthal like Patton, but warfare has always been about taking the enemy's bases, territory, and taking away their ability to make war until they capitulated!
Goering: You simply don't understand what war is all about...it's all about air superiority, honor, and proving your uber-ness over their dweeb-tard-ness. Plain and simple, it's completely an all air war.
Rommel: Well, I guess all the bomber, attack, and ground forces need to just pack up and go home.
Patton: I'll give the order if Ike will...those air force fighter pilots can take more ground and accomplish more than my tank and infantry divisions. Ya play golf, Irwin?
Cunningham: Well it's settled then. No taking of territory or assaulting each others bases and it will all be decided in the air--fighter pilot to fighter pilot. Anything else is complete dweeb-tardness.
Goering: Agreed! I will notify the Fuerher.
That's pretty much how history went, didn't it?
If this game were all about "maturing into the game to see it's all about dogfighting" the game owner and designer would have ditched all the bombers, bombs, taking of bases, ground vehicles, and the ability to disable base hangars, ords, radar, fuels, troops, and the game would simply be called:
ACES HIGH: THE BIG-GIGANTIC-ARSED-DUELING ARENA
ROX
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AMEN ROX......AMEN
EZRHINO
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If it's annoying, the rest of us can introduce you to a very old game feature called .squelch (players ID) that way you can not have to view that person's text. Problem solved. Anything less is whining on your own part.
As for not caring about winning maps or contributing to your own country's efforts toward that I have to ask....when you were a kid did they give trophys for 9th place and "everybody" was a winner?
In my hometown if you weren't a state champion in something, you were a forgotten "also ran". And that's how many people who like competition think. Last I looked, AH was a multi-faceted competition that gave kudos to player in ALL facets of the game each tour.If you are in the habit of losing, and like it...then again, it's your $15 bucks.
To quote Patton..." I wouldn't give a hoot in Hell for a man who lost....and laughed."
Hey...play how you wish. It's your $15 bucks.
Personally, I believe jack of all trades squads are the meat and potatos of every country. I always thought that the guys who furballed in fighters almost exclusively did so because they sucked at bombing, porking, attack (dive bombing), mission skills, and ground vehicles. Those same elitists need to hop in a tank, button up the hatch, get on 200 and call out some LTAR's, flk4, dr7, or Rondar and ask for a gv 1 v 1 to show their game "uber-skills" and see what happens.
Take this example as to how the fighter elitists think WWII should have been fought:
(Scene: tent in the Egyptian Desert, dark of night, a table with chairs seating Generals from both sides)
Rommel: We are here today at this truce conference to try to agree on how the war should be fought.
Goering: The Air Forces of both sides should determine the outcome of the war--no bombs no rockets, only air to air combat.
Cunningham: Here-here! All bases are off limits and it should be up to the air forces to see who wins. No lands, bases or territories on either side should be taken!
Rommel: Then why, In Cod's name are there enemy tanks and ground vehicles on both sides, as well as each's ability to take away one's enemy's ability to make war?
Patton: Well observed Irwin, all my tanks and troops are here just itching for battle, why leave it up to a bunch of scarf wearing pansies? I say WAR is based on killing the enemy at every opportunity and bombing everything they have into the stone age.
Montgomery: I personnaly hate to agree with a Neanderthal like Patton, but warfare has always been about taking the enemy's bases, territory, and taking away their ability to make war until they capitulated!
Goering: You simply don't understand what war is all about...it's all about air superiority, honor, and proving your uber-ness over their dweeb-tard-ness. Plain and simple, it's completely an all air war.
Rommel: Well, I guess all the bomber, attack, and ground forces need to just pack up and go home.
Patton: I'll give the order if Ike will...those air force fighter pilots can take more ground and accomplish more than my tank and infantry divisions. Ya play golf, Irwin?
Cunningham: Well it's settled then. No taking of territory or assaulting each others bases and it will all be decided in the air--fighter pilot to fighter pilot. Anything else is complete dweeb-tardness.
Goering: Agreed! I will notify the Fuerher.
That's pretty much how history went, didn't it?
If this game were all about "maturing into the game to see it's all about dogfighting" the game owner and designer would have ditched all the bombers, bombs, taking of bases, ground vehicles, and the ability to disable base hangars, ords, radar, fuels, troops, and the game would simply be called:
ACES HIGH: THE BIG-GIGANTIC-ARSED-DUELING ARENA
ROX
Hits the nail on the head :aok :aok :aok
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If it's annoying, the rest of us can introduce you to a very old game feature called .squelch (players ID) that way you can not have to view that person's text. Problem solved. Anything less is whining on your own part.
As for not caring about winning maps or contributing to your own country's efforts toward that I have to ask....when you were a kid did they give trophys for 9th place and "everybody" was a winner?
In my hometown if you weren't a state champion in something, you were a forgotten "also ran". And that's how many people who like competition think. Last I looked, AH was a multi-faceted competition that gave kudos to player in ALL facets of the game each tour.If you are in the habit of losing, and like it...then again, it's your $15 bucks.
To quote Patton..." I wouldn't give a hoot in Hell for a man who lost....and laughed."
Hey...play how you wish. It's your $15 bucks.
Personally, I believe jack of all trades squads are the meat and potatos of every country. I always thought that the guys who furballed in fighters almost exclusively did so because they sucked at bombing, porking, attack (dive bombing), mission skills, and ground vehicles. Those same elitists need to hop in a tank, button up the hatch, get on 200 and call out some LTAR's, flk4, dr7, or Rondar and ask for a gv 1 v 1 to show their game "uber-skills" and see what happens.
Take this example as to how the fighter elitists think WWII should have been fought:
(Scene: tent in the Egyptian Desert, dark of night, a table with chairs seating Generals from both sides)
Rommel: We are here today at this truce conference to try to agree on how the war should be fought.
Goering: The Air Forces of both sides should determine the outcome of the war--no bombs no rockets, only air to air combat.
Cunningham: Here-here! All bases are off limits and it should be up to the air forces to see who wins. No lands, bases or territories on either side should be taken!
Rommel: Then why, In Cod's name are there enemy tanks and ground vehicles on both sides, as well as each's ability to take away one's enemy's ability to make war?
Patton: Well observed Irwin, all my tanks and troops are here just itching for battle, why leave it up to a bunch of scarf wearing pansies? I say WAR is based on killing the enemy at every opportunity and bombing everything they have into the stone age.
Montgomery: I personnaly hate to agree with a Neanderthal like Patton, but warfare has always been about taking the enemy's bases, territory, and taking away their ability to make war until they capitulated!
Goering: You simply don't understand what war is all about...it's all about air superiority, honor, and proving your uber-ness over their dweeb-tard-ness. Plain and simple, it's completely an all air war.
Rommel: Well, I guess all the bomber, attack, and ground forces need to just pack up and go home.
Patton: I'll give the order if Ike will...those air force fighter pilots can take more ground and accomplish more than my tank and infantry divisions. Ya play golf, Irwin?
Cunningham: Well it's settled then. No taking of territory or assaulting each others bases and it will all be decided in the air--fighter pilot to fighter pilot. Anything else is complete dweeb-tardness.
Goering: Agreed! I will notify the Fuerher.
That's pretty much how history went, didn't it?
If this game were all about "maturing into the game to see it's all about dogfighting" the game owner and designer would have ditched all the bombers, bombs, taking of bases, ground vehicles, and the ability to disable base hangars, ords, radar, fuels, troops, and the game would simply be called:
ACES HIGH: THE BIG-GIGANTIC-ARSED-DUELING ARENA
ROX
good lord :rolleyes:
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I dont bomb or GV or pork for a simple reason. I find it boring.
I will furball to support a base capture, but YES if the hangars all get porked, I get a bit ticked. Why? because then it becomes boring, jsut as bombing and GVing is to me.
I don't expect everyone to furball, why should *I* be expected to "pork" or bomb?
I am all for historic missions as well, you post a big bomber mission to the strats? I will jump at flying escort. You post a big mission ot pork a base? not joining, porking removes resistance, and what fun is flying circles over an airfield... when I want to do that, I fly Microsoft FSX.
Sol
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Can't help but notice most of the self proclaimed biggest winners are almost always losers.
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If it's annoying, the rest of us can introduce you to a very old game feature called .squelch (players ID) that way you can not have to view that person's text. Problem solved. Anything less is whining on your own part.
As for not caring about winning maps or contributing to your own country's efforts toward that I have to ask....when you were a kid did they give trophys for 9th place and "everybody" was a winner?
In my hometown if you weren't a state champion in something, you were a forgotten "also ran". And that's how many people who like competition think. Last I looked, AH was a multi-faceted competition that gave kudos to player in ALL facets of the game each tour.If you are in the habit of losing, and like it...then again, it's your $15 bucks.
ROX
To paraphrase a squaddie who said recently to me -- I'm sure its been said before.. "if you're landing kills, you're winning"
I'm sure others can chime in and say you dont even need to land em, or even get em.. if yer having fun you're winning.. I can go with that too... :aok
this is not a life or death competition... too many people take it too seriously..
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I always thought that the guys who furballed in fighters almost exclusively did so because they sucked at bombing, porking, attack (dive bombing), mission skills, and ground vehicles. Those same elitists need to hop in a tank, button up the hatch, get on 200 and call out some LTAR's, flk4, dr7, or Rondar and ask for a gv 1 v 1 to show their game "uber-skills" and see what happens.
:rofl ROX. First of all, don't confuse fighting with furballing.
Second, the problem with bombing, porking, dive bombing etc is not that we suck at them. The problem is that they are easy and they don't change. For example, I learned how to calibrate the bomb sight 6 years ago lol. How does that change between buff runs? How hard is to dive bomb a building and how mach of a fight does it give you? See, its not that we suck at it, but, well, the buildings suck at it. They are no challenge.
As far as the Paton quote :rofl again. I play to win. I promise to slap you around repeatedly in any plane under any conditions and if I fail, I ll go find out why and try to get better. That is were the fun is. Winning the fights that are unpredictable, different, against different opponents and with many other variables. Since this is not a real war, winning is only fun if somehow it was earned. In a real war however, if I was going to go down, I'd rather do it while I took a few bad guys with me instead of crashing into a building while checking if the church was up :rofl
BTW, I have never met anyone in the game that could put up a fight, that promots porking and winning the war. At the same time, I have never met a general that actually had any kind of hope after missing the initial HO. So, one could say that the real quitters, the ones that lost and are smiling, are the ones that decided they could not learn how to fight, and since they cannot win against other humans, they will try an win against buildings. Just a theory of course :rofl
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, ”Can’t we all just get along?”
If it's annoying, the rest of us can introduce you to a very old game feature called .squelch (players ID) that way you can not have to view that person's text. Problem solved. Anything less is whining on your own part.
If this game were all about "maturing into the game to see it's all about dogfighting" the game owner and designer would have ditched all the bombers, bombs, taking of bases, ground vehicles, and the ability to disable base hangars, ords, radar, fuels, troops, and the game would simply be called:
ACES HIGH: THE BIG-GIGANTIC-ARSED-DUELING ARENA
ROX
Rox has a valid point, a little dramatic in his presentation, but valid none the less. HTC has a good balanced product here to allow players to cover air, land and sea action, with a focus on the air. Someone wants to gv, base take, pork, furball, pick and run, or gun from a ship, it is an individual choice. We all have the same options.
Armchair generals have to accept the fact that it is a choice, not a duty.
Personally, I did the military thing in real life. I chafe at those who try to force a rank structure into the game. I don’t want to order anyone, or be ordered to do something.
I’ll stick to whining on country about not getting check sixes.
I dont bomb or GV or pork for a simple reason. I find it boring.
I will furball to support a base capture, but YES if the hangars all get porked, I get a bit ticked. Why? because then it becomes boring, jsut as bombing and GVing is to me.
I don't expect everyone to furball, why should *I* be expected to "pork" or bomb?
Sol
Another perfectly valid point. I don’t share Sol’s opinion, but who am I to say he is wrong? I get frustrated a lot when I dive bomb (I can barely hit the ground) and gv (I never see the bast… gentleman who kills me), but I still do it occasionally to break things up. Spawn camping can be a huge drag, as can vulching a field.
Did I have a point here? Oh, yeah, two valid opinions on the opposite end of the scale. Can’t we all just get along?
Can't help but notice most of the self proclaimed biggest winners are almost always losers.
Apparently not.
I play this game for the human element. I think we all do. No one gets along with everyone. This is a competitive game. Competition can bring out the best and worst in people. I fail to maintain civility at times and I always regret it. But it does not change the fact that it is the people that make HTC’s excellent game worth playing.
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Mister ROX.
<--- This is how seriously you take this game.
<--- This is the limit of how seriously one may take this game whilst maintaining mental health.
Patton? Really.
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ow my soupie how you have change
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I have matured enough in game to realize AH is about MORE than dogfighting.
A LOT more.
AH is many different things to many different people. Thats what has given the game such longevity with such a diverse and dedicated community. Many people come and plenty of people go, and then they come back again. And again.
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Personally, I believe jack of all trades squads are the meat and potatos of every country. I always thought that the guys who furballed in fighters almost exclusively did so because they sucked at bombing, porking, attack (dive bombing), mission skills, and ground vehicles. Those same elitists need to hop in a tank, button up the hatch, get on 200 and call out some LTAR's, flk4, dr7, or Rondar and ask for a gv 1 v 1 to show their game "uber-skills" and see what happens.
ROX
Personally, I believe those guys that toolshed and play to WIN THE WAR(TM) (like you and your squadron) did so because they suck at flying fighters, BFM and ACM. It's okay that you and your squadron mates suck in fighters, that's why HiTech added bombers and GVs for those players like yourself that lack the necessary skills to be competitive in a fighter.
ack-ack
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I wasn't directing my comment at any specific person, including you.
As I said, when I up at a base with nothing but red I'm almost always all by myself.
Roger that, I know how you feel! <S>
Hits the nail on the head :aok :aok :aok
What nail is that? It's ok to insult fellow AH players on country ad nauseam?
”Can’t we all just get along?”
The first step is for guys like ROX to realize that just because the squelch function exists in game
it does not grant the right to be disrespectful to other players. I don't mind dirt farmers. If that's
what floats their boat great! I enjoy the randomness of encounters in game and I will admit that
the "capture the flag" is a good way to stimulate interaction. That said, I feel I win ever time I have
a good sortie regardless of whether the base was won or lost.
I can say from experience that, the sooner you attach less significance to whether the capture was made
and more to whether you had a good fight at that locale, the sooner you'll get more enjoyment from
this game.
ow my soupie how you have change
Sometimes change is a good thing indeed my friend! :aok
i sneezed while wearing my pink panties on my head the other night. now i have to resort back to the "bra on head" method. :noid :bolt:
It surprises me that someone with your experience spamming this forum has not yet grasped
how to quote more than one person per reply. Seriously dude you should try it. :aok
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I always thought that the guys who furballed in fighters almost exclusively did so because they sucked at bombing, porking, attack (dive bombing), mission skills, and ground vehicles.
Then there are those who have ... been there ... done that ... have the T-Shirt.
Long before you rolled onto the scene, I was the CO the the M.A.W. 3rd Wing - Black Sheep. The M.A.W. is probably one of the best base-taking, win-the-war squads in the history of this game ... we used all avenues available to secure a capture and/or reset.
I loved all the guys in the M.A.W. but the main reason that I left was that I became very efficient in all aspect of this game EXCEPT dogfighting ... I could de-ack, JABO, bomb, GV with the best of them, but after awhile it became boring ... same 'ol same 'ol.
If, after everything was "destroyed", I happened upon an air con ... I was dead within seconds unless a squaddie cleared me. That became very tiresome too, so I decided to part ways amicably and seek out a dogfighting squad and haven't looked back since.
At times I will participate in the other aspects of the game for slight change, but for me, this game is all about the "dogfight" ... don't think for one second that all the top dogfighters don't know how to JABO, bomb, de-ack, or GV.
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It surprises me that someone with your experience spamming this forum has not yet grasped
how to quote more than one person per reply. Seriously dude you should try it. :aok
:rofl ... CAP is trying to catch up to RipSnort and Lazs
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:rofl ... CAP is trying to catch up to RipSnort and Lazs
He is doing well at it though. ;)
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:rofl ROX. First of all, don't confuse fighting with furballing. I'll not get into this but I'll pick up on other things.
Second, the problem with bombing, porking, dive bombing etc is not that we suck at them. The problem is that they are easy and they don't change. If by that you mean the target is at the same place then your right. If your talking fighting your way in heavy and destroying your target and THEN get home...your wrong. For example, I learned how to calibrate the bomb sight 6 years ago lol. How does that change between buff runs? Depends on the cons in and out of target...doesn't it? How hard is to dive bomb a building and how mach of a fight does it give you? Again? ..getting repetitive. Depends on who's trying to put you in the tower and what you do after targets destroyed. See, its not that we suck at it, but, well, the buildings suck at it. They are no challenge. Those building have a nasty habit of calling in help. Fighting heavy is way harder than lite fighting. Sure! you could ditch your ords and get into the killing but what was the point of taking bombs? Oh yer...to play the strat game
As far as the Paton quote :rofl again. I play to win. and others don't?I promise to slap you around repeatedly in any plane under any conditions and if I fail, I ll go find out why and try to get better. Gawd you'd think you was gods gift. There are strat players that have equal skill in fighter mode but you forget where some of your fighter buddies acquired the talents That is were the fun is. Winning the fights that are unpredictable, different, against different opponents and with many other variables. As opposed to flying/fighting in heavy, giving away any advantage to destroying the target and getting home again. Tut tut...you need bifocals Since this is not a real war, winning is only fun if somehow it was earned. oh ..you mean like coordinate a capture or a pork run. Fighting, bombing, dive bombing under enemy fire and still trying live. Like resetting a map through team work or do you mean shooting newbies down that ain't got 6 years under their belt In a real war however, if I was going to go down, I'd rather do it while I took a few bad guys with me instead of crashing into a building while checking if the church was up :rofl
BTW, I have never met anyone in the game that could put up a fight, that promots porking and winning the war. yes you have... want a lens cleaner to go with the new glasses? At the same time, I have never met a general that actually had any kind of hope after missing the initial HO. well if a general went for a HO I'd have to agree he blew it So, one could say that the real quitters, the ones that lost and are smiling, are the ones that decided they could not learn how to fight, and since they cannot win against other humans, they will try an win against buildings. Just a theory of course :rofl Considering your view is myopic I'd have to say your theory is full of holes. And as a former (strat) player plenty of those holes were put in you by me.
How about that for a critical sarcastic lol or rolf. Many who learn to fight have learnt to do so from playing the strat side of the game? Unless of cause I'm the only one.
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I say do what you like and stay off of everyone elses back. Just have fun! This is a suggestion for us all. :aok
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I say do what you like and stay off of everyone elses back. Just have fun! This is a suggestion for us all. :aok
Way, toolshedders must understand the ways of the fight, they wont learn willingly so we must ram it in them :devil
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ROFL! ROX. First of all, don't confuse fighting with furballing. I'll not get into this but I'll pick up on other things.
Second, the problem with bombing, porking, dive bombing etc is not that we suck at them. The problem is that they are easy and they don't change. If by that you mean the target is at the same place then your right. If your talking fighting your way in heavy and destroying your target and THEN get home...your wrong. For example, I learned how to calibrate the bomb sight 6 years ago lol. How does that change between buff runs? Depends on the cons in and out of target...doesn't it? How hard is to dive bomb a building and how mach of a fight does it give you? Again? ..getting repetitive. Depends on who's trying to put you in the tower and what you do after targets destroyed. See, its not that we suck at it, but, well, the buildings suck at it. They are no challenge. Those building have a nasty habit of calling in help. Fighting heavy is way harder than lite fighting. Sure! you could ditch your ords and get into the killing but what was the point of taking bombs? Oh yer...to play the strat game
As far as the Paton quote ROFL! again. I play to win. and others don't?I promise to slap you around repeatedly in any plane under any conditions and if I fail, I ll go find out why and try to get better. Gawd you'd think you was gods gift. There are strat players that have equal skill in fighter mode but you forget where some of your fighter buddies acquired the talents That is were the fun is. Winning the fights that are unpredictable, different, against different opponents and with many other variables. As opposed to flying/fighting in heavy, giving away any advantage to destroying the target and getting home again. Tut tut...you need bifocals Since this is not a real war, winning is only fun if somehow it was earned. oh ..you mean like coordinate a capture or a pork run. Fighting, bombing, dive bombing under enemy fire and still trying live. Like resetting a map through team work or do you mean shooting newbies down that ain't got 6 years under their belt In a real war however, if I was going to go down, I'd rather do it while I took a few bad guys with me instead of crashing into a building while checking if the church was up ROFL!
BTW, I have never met anyone in the game that could put up a fight, that promots porking and winning the war. yes you have... want a lens cleaner to go with the new glasses? At the same time, I have never met a general that actually had any kind of hope after missing the initial HO. well if a general went for a HO I'd have to agree he blew it So, one could say that the real quitters, the ones that lost and are smiling, are the ones that decided they could not learn how to fight, and since they cannot win against other humans, they will try an win against buildings. Just a theory of course ROFL! Considering your view is myopic I'd have to say your theory is full of holes. And as a former (strat) player plenty of those holes were put in you by me.
How about that for a critical sarcastic lol or rolf. Many who learn to fight have learnt to do so from playing the strat side of the game? Unless of cause I'm the only one.
Really LYNX that does sound good and all. However, the reality is different. I have done all that when I started. Bombing a building goes as follows. Start up two sectors back. Climb to 20K unless there are reports of fighters at that alt. Then go higher. If opposition is encountered nose down to pick up speed so the cant catch you. Line up with building and release bombs. If you are lucky and dont hit the ground you now are traveling at warp speed and you can try to run home (however, if not everything dead, auger on purpose and repeat). If you are not at warp speed and a fighter starts closing on you, scream for help, and eventual die trying to escape instead of fighting for your life. What you describe sounds good but it is not how the building warriors play the game.
Going back a few days in the game, I can tell you that no one I say this week that came over to my field to bomb something ever made it back home, and I don't think he was planing to. One or two passes to kill a couple of structures until the ack or a defender gets them. So, maybe you and a coupe of others did learn by doing what you describe but the majority doesn't. We can test how mach you have learned if you like ;) I think I have been around long enough to have seen a lot. BTW, I was in a panzer last night. I tell ya, those buildings never had a chance lol
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Really LYNX that does sound good and all. However, the reality is different. I have done all that when I started. Bombing a building goes as follows. Start up two sectors back. Climb to 20K unless there are reports of fighters at that alt. Then go higher. If opposition is encountered nose down to pick up speed so the cant catch you. Line up with building and release bombs. If you are lucky and dont hit the ground you now are traveling at warp speed and you can try to run home (however, if not everything dead, auger on purpose and repeat). If you are not at warp speed and a fighter starts closing on you, scream for help, and eventual die trying to escape instead of fighting for your life. What you describe sounds good but it is not how the building warriors play the game.
Going back a few days in the game, I can tell you that no one I say this week that came over to my field to bomb something ever made it back home, and I don't think he was planing to. One or two passes to kill a couple of structures until the ack or a defender gets them. So, maybe you and a coupe of others did learn by doing what you describe but the majority doesn't. We can test how mach you have learned if you like ;) I think I have been around long enough to have seen a lot. BTW, I was in a panzer last night. I tell ya, those buildings never had a chance lol
Your first paragraph makes it sound like the stand mode for all strat players. It's wrong of cause but I have to agree with some of what you wrote. Can't deny that this stuff doesn't happen. Way back when I have been known to pork till I died and even setting off 2 sectors back if me front line ords been porked. I have also witnessed the pork n auger rinse repeat guys which are pre dominant around school brakes.
Ditching your alt or coming in under higher cons to take out a target leaves you in a vulnerable postions. If the player has a mind to survive that's where the learning starts. Here's the rub. Doesn't matter if your a furballer or a strat player. If the player doesn't have the will to survive their not going to be good at any aspect of the game. Players need the experience to learn, to progress. If that experience comes from bombing a few buildings and fighting his way home through 10 cons, it's no different from a furballer flying into 10 cons. The experience will lead to more skills except the strat player gets to blow stuff up as he does it. :neener:
Yer...we can sit here and try and take the piss outta the guys that don't play the game either of us play BUT neither of us know who the next Bipolar, Slapshot, Dedalos is going to be. If they get their skills, like so many have, from strat playing then fair play to em.
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Frankly, for us stratgays, all these furball lovin' stratgay-bashers whining about "...armchair generals blahblah ruining fun blaghblagh toolsheddin' griefin' no fun why so serious no skill blahblahblah..." ad nauseaum, is what usually motivates us.
We get to make them piss and moan and whine, and at the same time, we get to raid and pillage their towns, take their fields, pork their strats all along the way, and get to hear them whine about it even more.
Ahhh... music to our ears. That is what's "fun" for us.
If furball lovers don't like it, then they are welcome to up a plane and stop us.
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Frankly, for us stratgays, all these furball lovin' stratgay-bashers whining about "...armchair generals blahblah ruining fun blaghblagh toolsheddin' griefin' no fun why so serious no skill blahblahblah..." ad nauseaum, is what usually motivates us.
We get to make them piss and moan and whine, and at the same time, we get to raid and pillage their towns, take their fields, pork their strats all along the way, and get to hear them whine about it even more.
Ahhh... music to our ears. That is what's "fun" for us.
If furball lovers don't like it, then they are welcome to up a plane and stop us.
You've never ever taken one of my fields.
. . . and you never will. :D
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Lynx I <S> you sir. for once I feel someone else gets it.
as for dedalos, you obviously haven't come across me or my brother, Thndregg. Egg has constantly put up good bombing missions to bomb NME fields or strat and at times has even advertised this to the NME. His bombing missions are so popular that every time he logs on there is someone asking him to start one and they are never a secret to the NME, unless the rooks or knights are to stupid to see the huge dar from 3 sectors back in bishland.
I on the other hand Love the medium bombers, I do like to kill factories but I try to pork fields in a tactical effort while thndr takes on the strategic side of things.
Tonight for example Thndr, Hawk and I upped 26's to pork troops at a base with one of his squad escorting. When we got to target there were multiple con's over us (we were at 13k) but we went on with mission. Thndr lost 2 bombers but landed 2 kills and Hawk bombed targets and lost all of his flight but I managed to kill a typh, bomb my targets and kill the spit that killed hawk and fend off a P51 most of the way back to base. All the while with one engine out on my lead and one out on my right hand drone. I landed all of them.
That was a fun tactical bomb run. Granted there are some that prefer the cheap easy way of bombing but don't lump us all into one group please.
Oh and Shuff, is that a challenge?
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Ahhh... music to our ears. That is what's "fun" for us.
So you have fun by trying to deny others of it? And when you realize that you are not denying them of their fun, you berate them on country channel about not winning the war? which was the OP point to begin with?
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So you have fun by trying to deny others of it? And when you realize that you are not denying them of their fun, you berate them on country channel about not winning the war? which was the OP point to begin with?
The only point is that there is no point. :devil The OP hit the nail on the head. I take orders from no one in this game, if some do, it's their choice.
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The only point is that there is no point.
Very true.
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Lynx I <S> you sir. for once I feel someone else gets it.
as for dedalos, you obviously haven't come across me or my brother, Thndregg. Egg has constantly put up good bombing missions to bomb NME fields or strat and at times has even advertised this to the NME. His bombing missions are so popular that every time he logs on there is someone asking him to start one and they are never a secret to the NME, unless the rooks or knights are to stupid to see the huge dar from 3 sectors back in bishland.
I on the other hand Love the medium bombers, I do like to kill factories but I try to pork fields in a tactical effort while thndr takes on the strategic side of things.
Tonight for example Thndr, Hawk and I upped 26's to pork troops at a base with one of his squad escorting. When we got to target there were multiple con's over us (we were at 13k) but we went on with mission. Thndr lost 2 bombers but landed 2 kills and Hawk bombed targets and lost all of his flight but I managed to kill a typh, bomb my targets and kill the spit that killed hawk and fend off a P51 most of the way back to base. All the while with one engine out on my lead and one out on my right hand drone. I landed all of them.
That was a fun tactical bomb run. Granted there are some that prefer the cheap easy way of bombing but don't lump us all into one group please.
Oh and Shuff, is that a challenge?
I think you are missing my point. Yeas I have ran into him and he probably killed me every time I got close to his bombers. There is always a small percentage that is the exception.
I l post the films from my time int the the MW last night. I think it will make my point clear.
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(Scene: tent in the Egyptian Desert, dark of night, a table with chairs seating Generals from both sides)
Rommel: We are here today at this truce conference to try to agree on how the war should be fought.
Goering: The Air Forces of both sides should determine the outcome of the war--no bombs no rockets, only air to air combat.
Cunningham: Here-here! All bases are off limits and it should be up to the air forces to see who wins. No lands, bases or territories on either side should be taken!
Rommel: Then why, In Cod's name are there enemy tanks and ground vehicles on both sides, as well as each's ability to take away one's enemy's ability to make war?
Patton: Well observed Irwin, all my tanks and troops are here just itching for battle, why leave it up to a bunch of scarf wearing pansies? I say WAR is based on killing the enemy at every opportunity and bombing everything they have into the stone age.
Montgomery: I personnaly hate to agree with a Neanderthal like Patton, but warfare has always been about taking the enemy's bases, territory, and taking away their ability to make war until they capitulated!
Goering: You simply don't understand what war is all about...it's all about air superiority, honor, and proving your uber-ness over their dweeb-tard-ness. Plain and simple, it's completely an all air war.
Rommel: Well, I guess all the bomber, attack, and ground forces need to just pack up and go home.
Patton: I'll give the order if Ike will...those air force fighter pilots can take more ground and accomplish more than my tank and infantry divisions. Ya play golf, Irwin?
Cunningham: Well it's settled then. No taking of territory or assaulting each others bases and it will all be decided in the air--fighter pilot to fighter pilot. Anything else is complete dweeb-tardness.
Goering: Agreed! I will notify the Fuerher.
made me :lol
:aok
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Oh and Shuff, is that a challenge?
Yes.... one that you'll never win.
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If there were no porkers, there would be no targets for buff hunters. I love porkers, Go porkers!
Every aspect of this game is needed! Face it, live with it and change your own attitude.
Some whiners here think they know better how AH should be and how everyone else should play it. Why don't you guys go tell it straight to HTC how they are doing it all wrong :p
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Frankly, for us stratgays, all these furball lovin' stratgay-bashers whining about "...armchair generals blahblah ruining fun blaghblagh toolsheddin' griefin' no fun why so serious no skill blahblahblah..." ad nauseaum, is what usually motivates us.
Knock knock knock.
The OP is talking about people doing this on his own country channel night after night. In fact, it's about them "pissin and moaning" about others not playing their way.
Another thing. Bashing little Napoleons is not bashing their gameplay. It's bashing their God complex.
I'd never bash 999000. 999000 never acts like a little Napoleon. :aok
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Some whiners here think they know better how AH should be and how everyone else should play it. Why don't you guys go tell it straight to HTC how they are doing it all wrong :p
Right on! :aok
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I hope there's a distinction between disseminating information and being an armchair general.
If I notice something on the map I'll post a quick notice for those that might not be looking at the map, even if I'm in the middle of a mission and can't make it myself. Something like "Looks like NOE inbound xxx" or "yyy is getting hammered" or "CV sector xx.xx.x". I'll post that information once. If anyone acts on it great, if not, oh well. I don't consider that being an armchair general. I'm not asking anyone to do anything; just letting them know in case they are interested and I'm not whining about it if they aren't.
Oh... I forgot, I do sometimes also post "Could use a little help at xxx". Again I post once. If someone shows up (most of the time) great, if not then it's me against whatever I thought I needed help with.
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I hope there's a distinction between disseminating information and being an armchair general.
If I notice something on the map I'll post a quick notice for those that might not be looking at the map, even if I'm in the middle of a mission and can't make it myself. Something like "Looks like NOE inbound xxx" or "yyy is getting hammered" or "CV sector xx.xx.x". I'll post that information once. If anyone acts on it great, if not, oh well. I don't consider that being an armchair general.
Of course there is a difference Bald.
Information is appreciated by all.
On knights when one guy crys about organization all of the other wells of tears begin to flow untill Noah is herding animals up.
It's been getting worse and worse, and the easily styled newbies pick up on in and are becoming sidekicking minime's and Tattoo's beratting all those they deem as unpatriotic to the piece just like their little Napoleon leaders.
Maybe the guys that switch countries often will back me up on this. Could be going on on diff countries as much. I'm not sure.
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Of course there is a difference Bald.
Information is appreciated by all.
On knights when one guy crys about organization all of the other wells of tears begin to flow untill Noah is herding animals up.
It's been getting worse and worse, and the easily styled newbies pick up on in and are becoming sidekicking minime's and Tattoo's beratting all those they deem as unpatriotic to the piece just like their little Napoleon leaders.
Maybe the guys that switch countries often will back me up on this. Could be going on on diff countries as much. I'm not sure.
there are the little whiners on all teams, just seems that Nits have collected more than their fair share of them unfortunately (over the last 2 years~). From my own experience and the feelings of my squad Knights are the least enjoyable team to fly for. when we aren't operating our own objectives.
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Of course there is a difference Bald.
Information is appreciated by all.
On knights when one guy crys about organization all of the other wells of tears begin to flow untill Noah is herding animals up.
It's been getting worse and worse, and the easily styled newbies pick up on in and are becoming sidekicking minime's and Tattoo's beratting all those they deem as unpatriotic to the piece just like their little Napoleon leaders.
Maybe the guys that switch countries often will back me up on this. Could be going on on diff countries as much. I'm not sure.
There are a few in the game. The two worst are on Knights. I was going to switch to the side that was giving one so many problems just to shoot him. He logged so I stayed knight the rest of that run.