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Title: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: Vulcan on December 11, 2009, 10:34:57 PM
Cos it would've been nice to have known first.
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: FiLtH on December 11, 2009, 10:45:12 PM
Vulcan if you have FRAPS of that please post a youtube of it.
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: PFactorDave on December 11, 2009, 11:03:10 PM
I had Icon vis on enemy bombers out to about 2.5-3k ish...  Took a shot to the noggin anyway to end my flight anyway...   :D
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: daddog on December 11, 2009, 11:35:58 PM
Never would change it without telling you all first.

Icons were supposed to be the FSO standard of 3k. I gave TracerX the wrong numbers for the new icon settings and that is why they were short. As soon as we found out they were back to the standard 3k.

My apologies.
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: horble on December 11, 2009, 11:47:18 PM
For the record, I loved the icons at 800 yds, even if it was a mistake :D
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: fudgums on December 11, 2009, 11:49:09 PM
I think if people knew, they would love it. It was just an honest mistake. There's always next week
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: FiLtH on December 12, 2009, 12:23:53 AM
   Im glad it was a mistake and not something new we were trying. There just isnt enuff there to make it good on my end.
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: Vulcan on December 12, 2009, 12:35:24 AM
For the record, I loved the icons at 800 yds, even if it was a mistake :D

The game engine does not have the fidelity to support this realistically.

Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: Nefarious on December 12, 2009, 12:41:47 AM
Our first engagement was with Icon-less 109s. It was certainly a different although brief experience, It may be something I could deal with a little more time.

But... I don't think its necessary. Standard FSO settings seem fine to me.
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: mia389 on December 12, 2009, 01:26:24 AM
I loved the short icons. I looked back and I seen a spit firing his guns with no icon.  I about augered cause I jumped so much. Was a huge suprise. I loved it though.
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: Kermit de frog on December 12, 2009, 02:57:39 AM
When was the icon setting fixed?
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: daddog on December 12, 2009, 08:57:58 AM
I did not look at the time so I can only guess and say 20-30 minutes into the frame.
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: Kermit de frog on December 12, 2009, 09:13:22 AM
Rgr.
I never did see Vlkyrie1's P47 dive on me around T+60.  Although my SA was taxed as I was trying to coordinate guys to a fight via text.  The icon setting then had no effect on my death...rats!

Thanks for the prompt answer daddog.  <S>

And nice job Vlkyrie1, you got me good.  <S>
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: FiLtH on December 12, 2009, 09:56:30 AM
  Ya when the 109 is seen as a light grey dot against the blue sky, and the camo'd mossie is seen as a light grey dot among the treetops it aint workin.
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: gyrene81 on December 12, 2009, 11:08:18 AM
  Ya when the 109 is seen as a light grey dot against the blue sky, and the camo'd mossie is seen as a light grey dot among the treetops it aint workin.
I'm thinking 42 inch monitor and lower resolution settings sometime in the future...  :D  :airplane:  :joystick:
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: bravoa8 on December 17, 2009, 10:40:36 AM
I loved the short icons. I looked back and I seen a spit firing his guns with no icon.  I about augered cause I jumped so much. Was a huge suprise. I loved it though.
I like it without icons too it's way more realistic.
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: Shifty on December 17, 2009, 04:20:56 PM
I like it without icons too it's way more realistic.

So you have real aerial combat experiance and we can take your word on it?
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: gyrene81 on December 17, 2009, 09:15:16 PM
So you have real aerial combat experiance and we can take your word on it?
You need aerial combat experience? I just go by the images planted in my brain of different objects of various sizes that I've targeted with my sights at various ranges up to 1000 yds...at 800 yards you can see the ears of an elk with the naked eye...you can see the VW marking on the hood of a VW Beetle clearly...and you can clearly discern the difference in aircraft that are bigger than a car...granted, AH does not have the same focal system as the human eye does...but it does have zoom and that is a close approximation.

I do understand the concerns of pushing the icon range distance to less than 2k...6k is too much like the MA's though.
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: Shifty on December 18, 2009, 01:04:17 PM
Been an airplane freak since I was a toddler. Spent most of my adult life in the USAF. I can usually tell you what the aircraft is from a long distance in real life. However in AHII they're all just dots at a distance even up close many times it's hard to tell what type they are. I like limited icons because you're required more SA. However no icons at all is too much for the current state of graphics in AH and adds nothing to realism. Just my two cents.  :)
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: Valkyrie on December 18, 2009, 10:45:59 PM
Thanks  kermit. Your 190's were meat on the table. We were late off target and at 28k when I spotted your 190D flight below. I was going to wait, but you were a tempting target. I was coming down really quick and was only in icon maybe 20 sec before u were dead. The cloud layer didn't help you either as I hid before the final dive. You know a fomer 56 aint going to ever miss that shot in a p47 ;)

<S>
Vlkyrie1
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: FiLtH on December 19, 2009, 12:12:19 AM
  I like the icons the way we're used to them. Having planes disappear,basically, when icon disappears the other icons rob my visoin to them and the little black speck blends in the the other specks on the ground.
Title: Re: So was icon range supposed to be 600 or 800?
Post by: Shifty on December 19, 2009, 01:44:14 AM
 I like the icons the way we're used to them. Having planes disappear,basically, when icon disappears the other icons rob my visoin to them and the little black speck blends in the the other specks on the ground.

I have to say once I'm within D-300 the icon going away helped me tonight. Usually my eyes tend to lock onto the icon when trying to track an enemy against the dark background. The icon disapearing actually helped me track the enemy aircraft better. Then again I have old fart eyes.