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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: catdaddy on December 17, 2009, 03:49:10 PM
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I have noticed the same players over and over towering out when a bomb is headed their way. when you only have 1 bomb this "gaming the game" BS is just that, flaker towers to avoid a bomb only to re-emerge in a flak a second later. why not delay the tower request til AFTER bomb hits the ground and stop the abuse.
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I have noticed the same players over and over towering out when a bomb is headed their way. when you only have 1 bomb this "gaming the game" BS is just that, flaker towers to avoid a bomb only to re-emerge in a flak a second later. why not delay the tower request til AFTER bomb hits the ground and stop the abuse.
Well then that's a bit unfair on the player driving the GV, isn't it.
Seriously, this isn't a big deal at all. Players (including me, to an extent) who repeatedly bomb GVs are known as 'bomb****s', and with a fairly good reason (yes, I'm VERY proud to be one :P).
EDIT: Also, welcome to the forums!! :)
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OUCH! BUT FAIL
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You cant expect them to just sit there and take it.
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I have noticed the same players over and over towering out when a bomb is headed their way. when you only have 1 bomb this "gaming the game" BS is just that, flaker towers to avoid a bomb only to re-emerge in a flak a second later. why not delay the tower request til AFTER bomb hits the ground and stop the abuse.
Seriously? why don't you just drop your ord on the hanger?
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Drop the Hangars 1st, then worry about the "towerers".
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Wonder who this guy really is?
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:cry
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I have issues with GVs trying to kill my plane. Many times I'm just doing acrobatics to entertain them.
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Drop the Hangars 1st, then worry about the "towerers".
Ditto. :aok
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Drop the Hangars 1st, then worry about the "towerers".
YA TOOLSHEDDER!!!!!! WHY YOU DROP THE HANGERS ON A PERFECTLY GOOD GV FIGHT?!?!?!?
No win :aok
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wow...I recognize a few of the "tower out" club who have replied.
I rest my case.
although it isn't a cheat, certainly it is "gaming the game", I can't remember a single recorded instance in WW II where ANY ground vehicle rolled into a town as the bombs were falling to blink out just before the bomb hit it. I think delaying the "tower out" option still allows legit tankers the option to end flight and keep what they kill. Stop the BS "tower out" club members from depleting all of the bombs from attackers by using a loophole in the game. I seem to remember HTC fixing the under the bridge bug that made it impossible to kill a GV backed up under a bridge while still allowing them to kill other GV's. It's not a matter of cowardice, it's a loophole that should be fixed like all the other bugs to stop people from taking advantage.
I really am impressed with the ignorant one liners and the pictorial insults, it really adds to your rebuttals. If you aren't going to make an intelligent point, don't post, it really invalidates the reason for this forum.
this is the best military flight sim there has ever been, HTC has done a great job, with a few minor adjustments it will be even more true to it's intent.
For the kids with the "way cool" one liners, the insults, and the photo insults......go back to your console games and continue to swap cheat codes with your friends.
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Wonder who this guy really is?
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For the kids with the "way cool" one liners, the insults, and the photo insults......go back to your console games and continue to swap cheat codes with your friends.
LOL I bet half the people who posted such replies don't even own a console, I don't. Been a PC gamer since day one.
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Drop the Hangars 1st, then worry about the "towerers".
NUFF SAID HERE
Kam
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I'm a proud "towerer outer" :neener:
If you wanna waste bombs on vehicles instead of the hangars, go ahead.
Think of it kinda of like "mini strategic bombing".. VH's are GV factories :)
This is the 3rd complaint thread in as many days about this topic, from people I've never heard of.. I think 2 in here, and one in the wishlist. :rolleyes:
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See Rule #4
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You think YOU do earn any respect the way you are posting here? First post ever a whine, following posts filled with ridiculous and baseless insults?
Nice way to introduce yourself ;)
Oh, and btw... don't you think you are the first one with such a demand... and HT has refused to implement it in the past.
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See Rule #4
How much do you pay for this game? $14.95?
Kvuo75, how much do YOU pay for this game? $14.95 as well?
Nobody has any right to tell others how to play the game. You may think its sad and pathetic to 'Game the Game', but if he wants to then he can. He pays the same as you or me.
Personally, I'd tower out if I had 4 kills and heard a bomb coming towards me. Darn right I would I'm not just going to sit there and die. I do enough of that in the air. GV v GV yes I'll take the death. Stuka or Divebomber, yes I'll take the death, but if some Lancstuka (Which is gameing the game as well :aok) wants to drop 14 1000lbers on me, he can waste the lot. Its the way I play, you don't like it? Ask Hitech to raise my payment, cause till he does that, I got the same right to play my way as you do to play yours.
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The best thing to do is not bomb guys parked on pavement. This is what I do when I have flown 30 min's in a stuka or b5n to drop gv's. They can't tower out and you get what your after. Other than that drop the 4000 pounder on the main pad hanger and you can potentially get 5 kills from the guys that think they are far enough away. :devil The same can be said about the complaints for stick stirrers. If I see a guy or girl playing the gameiness side I avoid them and move on to another target. Other wise I just get mad and it ruins the game play for me. Avoid what you don't like about the game and play it so you get what you want from it.
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Why? Because we can. :D
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Why would you post a video of a child getting hurt like that?
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Why would you post a video of a child getting hurt like that?
If you have not figured out that IVAN is not quite right in real life (or it's a demented online persona), then my brother we need to talk...
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As one of those who may tower out when a bomb is headed my direction and one who regularily bombs GV's I think it's a perfectly legitimate option in the game.
From the GVer's perspective if the hanger's still up then why take the death? Furthermore, it's to your benefit to make a plane drop it's ord for no return. Strategically and tactically it's always the best option to tower as long as you're on pavement or concrete.
From a GV bombing perspective, if the hangers are still up I should expect a tower-out. Once the hangers are down the GVer has little choice but to remain in his vehicle. Even given that the hangers are still up, as long as the towering GVer isn't on pavement (or concrete) you will get the kill if he towers.
It is what it is. Learn to deal with it and use it to your advantage from both perspectives.
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I will tower on the runway when the vulch lamp is on as well.
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14.95 will buy you an endless supply. Just find a willing target and drop. Buy two and save even more!
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Same as the bomb and bail guys or the dude that bails out of an undamaged fighter when you out fly him and it dawns on him he's gonna die.
shamus
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I have noticed the same players over and over towering out when a bomb is headed their way. when you only have 1 bomb this "gaming the game" BS is just that, flaker towers to avoid a bomb only to re-emerge in a flak a second later. why not delay the tower request til AFTER bomb hits the ground and stop the abuse.
How bout trying to attack and kill em in a tank? Oh wait, thats the problem, you got yourself killed in a tank and your going to take it out on him with a bomb........ :rolleyes:
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Why would you post a video of a child getting hurt like that?
Why would someone film a video of a child getting hurt like that?
"Water? Like from the toilet?"
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What is the goal of bombing a GV? I assume to get rid of him right? Well, if he towers out, mission accomplished. Whats the problem again? I know it can't be score or points so . . . :confused:
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"Water? Like from the toilet?"
"BRAWNDO THE THIRST MUTILATOR"...." It's what plants crave!"
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"BRAWNDO THE THIRST MUTILATOR"...." It's what plants crave!"
Its got electrolytes.
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Can't say I've ever had this happen to me when bombing gvs or maybe I didn't notice? :lol hurri d is a lot of fun against gvs especially swiping your own sides kills at a spawn camp :D GV has the potential to be exciting but any time you spawn into some action theres about 15 guns pointed waiting for you even if you make a run for it you usually don't get far :lol Which leads me to ask the question what is the thrill of 9-10 camping a spawn? :headscratch: I just don't get it granted your there to kill GVs appearing but doesn't having to compete with 10 of your team mates not cheese you off? :headscratch:
(this is a serious question for GVers btw)
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Same as the bomb and bail guys or the dude that bails out of an undamaged fighter when you out fly him and it dawns on him he's gonna die.
yeah it is, and I think its definitely gamey, which is why I wont do it. if I hear bombs whistling in I'll take my chances - if I'm in a wirble and someone has the nuts to dive in on me they deserve the chance of a kill, likewise when I do the same. In an A20 its not too bad because you've got so many bombs, in most attack planes where you've spent 10mins lugging just 2 or 3 bombs over its really annoying seeing a gv disappear after you've released.
easiest answer is to have a small towering delay - 5 or 10s maybe - so that any bombs already in the air can finish their fall. and before I get accused of being a gv hater, yes it should apply to aircraft too :)
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If you are bombinb gv's w/ the VH up @ a Vbase then duh....
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not necessarily, if theres friendly gvs moving into a vbase I'll try to kill any dug-in tanks blocking their path (CAS) and let the gvers decide if they want to drop hangars, camp hangars or just battle it out. vbase/airbase or vhs up/dn makes no difference to the gameyness of the gv instatower.
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In an A20 its not too bad because you've got so many bombs, in most attack planes where you've spent 10mins lugging just 2 or 3 bombs over its really annoying seeing a gv disappear after you've released.
Wait. You lugged your bombs 10 minutes to kill a defensless GV to pad your score and now you're PO'd that he wouldn't oblige? I'm sorry, if that wasn't the case then either A. you'de hit the hangers or B. the hangers would already be down, the GV would tower and you'de have accomplished your objective of getting him off the field.
Which leads me to ask the question what is the thrill of 9-10 camping a spawn? :headscratch: I just don't get it granted your there to kill GVs appearing but doesn't having to compete with 10 of your team mates not cheese you off? :headscratch:
(this is a serious question for GVers btw)
In a good spawn camp there's plenty of kills to go around. The "thrill" is massive numbers of kills in a very short period of time to pad your score while totally frustrating the other guys. Once you have the range down it's hard to miss on the first shot. Even with 10 campers walking away with 10-25 or more kills isn't uncommon.
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Stop the BS "tower out" club members from depleting all of the bombs from attackers by using a loophole in the game. I seem to remember HTC fixing the under the bridge bug that made it impossible to kill a GV backed up under a bridge while still allowing them to kill other GV's. It's not a matter of cowardice, it's a loophole that should be fixed like all the other bugs to stop people from taking advantage.
The issue with not being able to damage a tank under a bridge was a bug that needed to be fixed. Towering out in a GV to avoid being bombed isn't a bug and doesn't need to be fixed. It sucks but like HO's it's part of the game, learn to live and deal with it.
ack-ack
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Wait. You lugged your bombs 10 minutes to kill a defensless GV to pad your score and now you're PO'd that he wouldn't oblige? I'm sorry, if that wasn't the case then either A. you'de hit the hangers or B. the hangers would already be down, the GV would tower and you'de have accomplished your objective of getting him off the field.
your making alot of assumptions here, mostly wrong. most gvs arent defenceless, wirbles and osties definitely arent. not sure how padding score comes into it, my motivation for most sorties has nothing to do with score, in fact given the choice I generally target wirbles just for the challenge. hangars, hangars ... dont see the relevance. you cant assume my objective, could be different every sortie.
anyways this is all irrelevant to the idea that instatower gvs are gamey and irritating for the same reasons as buffs that bail after you've spent 10mins climbing up to them, or fighters that alt-f4 the moment you get the drop on em.
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It's simple, don't bomb the Gv that's on the concrete. Get the ones that will register proxy kills for towering out. Take it from me, I'm a triple ace EGGTARD!
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Yes I very much enjoy the NOOBS that cannot kill you with a tank and then come back to bomb you on the concrete. Now since you have been out roaming in the woods and killed them all and driven back to the vbase where they meet you with their bombs they want to also prevent you from landing those kills. NOOBS.
Thats all I have to say about that. :D
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Couple of takes...
There are some in the game who can't dogfite or gv very well and the only way they can get their name in lights is to go over to a gv base that has no air dar bar and egg those gv's that up to defend. They may not be the majority. Some do it for "payback" because they went over earlier in a gv and got killed by a more experienced gv'er.
Others do it because the game itself encourages it. There is a monthly award for Top "Attack" mode players. Some guys I see all they do all tour is up heavy to kill gv'ers so they can hope to get that "honor"
Aw well...it's their $15 bucks. Sorry, I do not chase that "honor".
ROX
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Couple of takes...
There are some in the game who can't dogfite or gv very well and the only way they can get their name in lights is to go over to a gv base that has no air dar bar and egg those gv's that up to defend. They may not be the majority. Some do it for "payback" because they went over earlier in a gv and got killed by a more experienced gv'er.
Others do it because the game itself encourages it. There is a monthly award for Top "Attack" mode players. Some guys I see all they do all tour is up heavy to kill gv'ers so they can hope to get that "honor"
Aw well...it's their $15 bucks. Sorry, I do not chase that "honor".
ROX
So if someone goes and bombs a GV that is defending the Vbase, the one in the plane is doing so because they lack both skill in flying and in GVs?
ack-ack
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Couple of takes...
There are some in the game who can't dogfite or gv very well and the only way they can get their name in lights is to go over to a gv base that has no air dar bar and egg those gv's that up to defend. They may not be the majority. Some do it for "payback" because they went over earlier in a gv and got killed by a more experienced gv'er.
Others do it because the game itself encourages it. There is a monthly award for Top "Attack" mode players. Some guys I see all they do all tour is up heavy to kill gv'ers so they can hope to get that "honor"
Aw well...it's their $15 bucks. Sorry, I do not chase that "honor".
ROX
I do it because their gvs are camping the spawn hangar or the spawn point.
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not necessarily, if theres friendly gvs moving into a vbase I'll try to kill any dug-in tanks blocking their path (CAS) and let the gvers decide if they want to drop hangars, camp hangars or just battle it out. vbase/airbase or vhs up/dn makes no difference to the gameyness of the gv instatower.
I agree that I will also bomb campers.
If we have friendly gv's attacking I make them my priority over gv's on the base.
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I do it because their gvs are camping the spawn hangar or the spawn point.
I bomb them because they are there ... also, if you want a good "attack" score, and are after "score", bombing single GVs is not the way to go ... ludicrous at best.
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If you have not figured out that IVAN is not quite right in real life (or it's a demented online persona), then my brother we need to talk...
Because it was in the funny section and I found it funny. No kids were harmed in the video. I have a question for you. Will you ever contribute anything to any thread ever. Or just Troll endlessly. I see your tard pictures all the time but do I feel the need to comment no.
Have A Great Day!
No :salute
Crazy
Wow what next to whine about? I liked what Mace said. Do you really think a gv is gonna sit there and let your Lancstuka him into oblivion. Cry me a
river.
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Because it was in the funny section and I found it funny. No kids were harmed in the video. I have a question for you. Will you ever contribute anything to any thread ever. Or just Troll endlessly. I see your tard pictures all the time but do I feel the need to comment no.
Have A Great Day!
No :salute
Crazy
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I use a Lanc to Kill GV's whenever the odds aren't balanced. If Porkers are hammering a base with an onslaught of 3 squads of bombers, 3 wirbles 2 tanks and an M# w/ troops. & we have 1 GV at twn 2 ftrs in the air...? YES! "Here I come to save the DAY! Mighty Mouse is on his way!" also parodied by Andy Kaufman on SNL. I killed 4 GV's in one pass and the Porker eventually got bored and left the fight to a few hard cores....The way it should be. :x
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:huh
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I use a Lanc to Kill GV's
LAME! use an A20 or ... well anything except a formation of heavy, level bombers. please.
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also, if you want a good "attack" score, and are after "score", bombing single GVs is not the way to go ... ludicrous at best.
Damn! Now you had to go and ruin my whole month.
Thanks, Slapshot. Next you'll tell me strafing buildings in 'Fighter Mode' doesn't help my hit percentage. :rolleyes:
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I've been playing AH for a number of years now, and I can't recall this happening when I dive on a gv. Maybe it's just me.
Imagine the whines if gv'ers couldn't bail quickly....
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Just make sure when you're asked to put Torpedoes on the Town, you drop em on the Town. :noid
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I do it because their gvs are camping the spawn hangar or the spawn point.
And there is nothing wrong with that.
ROX
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It's very interesting how people on here divide their different feelings about what's acceptable/ethical etc. I know It really peeves me when someone is sitting at a V base and cuts their internet connection as soon as they are turreted/killed/tracked, then logs back on a pops up with a new tank and you don't get a kill credit. :cry :D Oh well, I won't do anything I personnally think is cheating/taking advantage of loop-holes, because it circumvents the REAL challenges. My 2 Cents :neener:
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It's very interesting how people on here divide their different feelings about what's acceptable/ethical etc. I know It really peeves me when someone is sitting at a V base and cuts their internet connection as soon as they are turreted/killed/tracked, then logs back on a pops up with a new tank and you don't get a kill credit. :cry :D Oh well, I won't do anything I personnally think is cheating/taking advantage of loop-holes, because it circumvents the REAL challenges. My 2 Cents :neener:
Actually, you DO get a kill if they alt/f4 or whatever.
It sometimes takes a min or 2 but you do get it.
(another myth busted)
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This game offers the ability to drive GVs? :headscratch:
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See Rule #6
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Wow, my very first ...IN...,,,,
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IN IN IN :banana:
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Wow, my very first ...IN...,,,,
+1 and IN
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This thread is not going to last long. :D
Fred
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Let's put an end to this.
GV's spawning at a friendly field have home base advantage. If they want to bail out before they are killed, they can do so. It is their field.
Take down the vehicle hangar if you do not want them spawning back on the field.
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skuzzy needs to change his name to night stick. :bolt:
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It's very interesting how people on here divide their different feelings about what's acceptable/ethical etc. I know It really peeves me when someone is sitting at a V base and cuts their internet connection as soon as they are turreted/killed/tracked, then logs back on a pops up with a new tank and you don't get a kill credit. :cry :D Oh well, I won't do anything I personnally think is cheating/taking advantage of loop-holes, because it circumvents the REAL challenges. My 2 Cents :neener:
They don't pop their connection they just tower while on concrete.
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If towering out is still a problem to you, form a line to be Skuzz-e-fried :rofl
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You know...
I have to say that a delay between exiting and towering would not be such a bad idea....
It could also apply to planes i mean how quickly could somone bail out anyway, freeze the player for 5 seconds before they leave the GV/AC
I mean it is a cheap way out of a fight... why not make it a little more expensive....
Oh and to any GV'er about to flame me, I freely admit to towering out when required....
Mind you I have never bailed to save my skin....
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You know...
I have to say that a delay between exiting and towering would not be such a bad idea....
It could also apply to planes i mean how quickly could somone bail out anyway, freeze the player for 5 seconds before they leave the GV/AC
I mean it is a cheap way out of a fight... why not make it a little more expensive....
Oh and to any GV'er about to flame me, I freely admit to towering out when required....
Mind you I have never bailed to save my skin....
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The aggressor/attacker that is dropping ords on a GV at a GV base while the hangers are up is trying to start a fight?
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Here, since you cant scroll down...... :lol
Let's put an end to this.
GV's spawning at a friendly field have home base advantage. If they want to bail out before they are killed, they can do so. It is their field.
Take down the vehicle hangar if you do not want them spawning back on the field.
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Let's put an end to this.
GV's spawning at a friendly field have home base advantage. If they want to bail out before they are killed, they can do so. It is their field.
Take down the vehicle hangar if you do not want them spawning back on the field.
Somebody show that a certain squad. The cowgirls are still ranting on CH200 about this "gamey cheat" (and the story is getting bigger every time - now I bailed out 6 times in a row)... and I still get PM's from them every 2nd day :lol
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Lusche,
I didn't think you had to bail, I thought you just curled up in your shell :lol
:salute
BigRat
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Somebody show that a certain squad. The cowgirls are still ranting on CH200 about this "gamey cheat" (and the story is getting bigger every time - now I bailed out 6 times in a row)... and I still get PM's from them every 2nd day :lol
:rofl Just because you do it, or because HT does not want to change it, it does not mean it is not gaming the game. You guys keep talking about realism and immersion but only when it is convenient ehh?
I want to be able to get a safe landing right before I get shot if I am over my field. Home field advantage baby :rofl I mean, you cant expect me to just sit there and get killed, do you?
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:rofl Just because you do it, or because HT does not want to change it, it does not mean it is not gaming the game. You guys keep talking about realism and immersion but only when it is convenient ehh?
I want to be able to get a safe landing right before I get shot if I am over my field. Home field advantage baby :rofl I mean, you cant expect me to just sit there and get killed, do you?
1st, please show me where I "keep talking about realism and immersion but only when it is convenient ehh?"
2nd, when you are sitting in your plane on the runway, and suddenly you see a vulcher coming in... you know you can't get up, because he's too close - you just sit there and let him shoot you? Do you expect me just sitting in a Panzer or any other GV and wait until that bomb hits me, that is being dropped from altitude without any risk for the attacker?
Oh, and btw regarding that "realism" and "immersion" thing - GV drivers running from their bomb magnets is not a thing unheard of in WWII. ;)
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1st, please show me where I "keep talking about realism and immersion but only when it is convenient ehh?"
2nd, when you are sitting in your plane on the runway, and suddenly you see a vulcher coming in... you know you can't get up, because he's too close - you just sit there and let him shoot you? Do you expect me just sitting in a Panzer or any other GV and wait until that bomb hits me, that is being dropped from altitude without any risk for the attacker?
Lol, I said you guys. Players in general.
2nd. The difference is that the GV was not just spawning without knowledge of a bomb being on the way. It had been fighting for a while. Can you tell me if a Panzer crew engaged in battle could even see the plane coming? How long would it take the driver to get out and out of range of the blast? No risk to the plane? Why, there is ack, maned ack, flaks, and other planes that he had to avoid and then he had to aim right, not auger, etc. I can also give you the crap responses we get on CVs being sunk (if you dont want it sunk, defend it). If you don't want to get bombed, defend your GVs with flacks. The moment you get in one, you should expect to get bombed.
Bottom line is, its lame. Don;t want to get bombed, don't get in one.
So, give me my auto bail over my field to count as a safe landing. After all, I am over my field, why shouldn't it count my kills?
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Well then that's a bit unfair on the player driving the GV, isn't it.
Seriously, this isn't a big deal at all. Players (including me, to an extent) who repeatedly bomb GVs are known as 'bomb****s', and with a fairly good reason (yes, I'm VERY proud to be one :P).
EDIT: Also, welcome to the forums!! :)
First, I dont think that WW2 Tank crews were able to "tower out" when they were bombed, second, when did Close Air Support for ground assaults turn into people being bomb****s??? I will bomb GVs all day especially when certain people in this game drive tanks that will kill u with one shot after being hit hit 15-20 times by a more powerful tank.
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Planes do get an advantage on a home base. They can ditch within 5k of the base I think. I've seen many of peeps game the game that way as well.
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its a skill just like any other defensive moves gotta be quick :cheers:
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Planes do get an advantage on a home base. They can ditch within 5k of the base I think. I've seen many of peeps game the game that way as well.
It's not 5k... you simply have to be closer to a friendly base than an enemy base to successfully ditch.
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Lol, I said you guys. Players in general.
2nd. The difference is that the GV was not just spawning without knowledge of a bomb being on the way. It had been fighting for a while. Can you tell me if a Panzer crew engaged in battle could even see the plane coming? How long would it take the driver to get out and out of range of the blast? No risk to the plane? Why, there is ack, maned ack, flaks, and other planes that he had to avoid and then he had to aim right, not auger, etc. I can also give you the crap responses we get on CVs being sunk (if you dont want it sunk, defend it). If you don't want to get bombed, defend your GVs with flacks. The moment you get in one, you should expect to get bombed.
Bottom line is, its lame. Don;t want to get bombed, don't get in one.
So, give me my auto bail over my field to count as a safe landing. After all, I am over my field, why shouldn't it count my kills?
Flaks have an effective range of about 1.5K and you better be good to hit at that range. Realistically they are worthless after 1K. The field guns effective range is about 2K and you better be good to hit at that range. They can hit at greater distances, but mostly its luck.
A set of bombers flying at 5000 feet can take out gv's with no danger from the field gun or flaks. Same can be said for fighters dropping bombs. They can drop from a height that minimizes their risks.
Now, you can go back to the old tale, "get the fighters to protect you". In a perfect balanced game that would be great, but not always possible.
I'll go with the delay, but lets puts some 88's on the field.
My Opinion
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Fred
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Sounds like tripp he was whining all day about snailman doing this and used the same phrases. :cry :cry
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Sounds like tripp he was whining all day about snailman doing this and used the same phrases. :cry :cry
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second, when did Close Air Support for ground assaults turn into people being bomb****s???
It's become obvious to me that ANY style of play in this game will get you called a 'tard by someone, usually a vocal contingent of someones.
As a result I have concluded that if you're going to enjoy the game, you just have to ignore the people p***ing and moaning about how people like you are ruining the game. (This does not mean that any dweebish thing you do is okay, just that the fact that someone is whining at you means nothing.)
A corollary is that you will never get anywhere criticizing others' style of play, no matter how dweebish you think they're being. Complain if it makes you feel better, but don't expect they'll care or stop doing whatever it is you're complaining about.
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First, I dont think that WW2 Tank crews were able to "tower out" when they were bombed, second, when did Close Air Support for ground assaults turn into people being bomb****s??? I will bomb GVs all day especially when certain people in this game drive tanks that will kill u with one shot after being hit hit 15-20 times by a more powerful tank.
AMEN!..someone finally said it.... I noticed I get killed with one round depending one who it is, and I'm in a Tiger shooting a Panzer and it takes 5 point blank rounds, well placed to kill the same guy...? I get killed with 2-3 rounds all the time & I can strafe a Wirble getting good hits 4-5 passes in an IK and doen't even smoke him...YES! Time to be a bomb**** & proud of it! :aok :banana:
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It's not 5k... you simply have to be closer to a friendly base than an enemy base to successfully ditch.
Yes I know forgot to change that but you get the idea. :cheers:
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I have noticed the same players over and over towering out when a bomb is headed their way. when you only have 1 bomb this "gaming the game" BS is just that, flaker towers to avoid a bomb only to re-emerge in a flak a second later. why not delay the tower request til AFTER bomb hits the ground and stop the abuse.
Most GV's know how much i am a "bomb****". It bring joy and warmth to my heart seeing them in M4 s and loosing them perk points. Here is what i learn, do not go after the GVs on concert. They will most liky tower, especially if they have kills to land.
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i learn, do not go after the GVs on concert.
Yes my Sherman is a parade princess. :D
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I have noticed the same players over and over towering out when a bomb is headed their way. when you only have 1 bomb this "gaming the game" BS is just that, flaker towers to avoid a bomb only to re-emerge in a flak a second later. why not delay the tower request til AFTER bomb hits the ground and stop the abuse.
kill his hangars first. then egg him.
problem solved.
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Sometimes I don't have a grand strategy behind bombing a GV , it's just fun to watch him blow up. :banana: If they tower out, whatever, I'm not going to go whining about it.
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well i don't see much a problem wit this request, maybe a second or 2 before you return to the tower to represent getting out of ur vehicle or plane (in a crackhead speed at that). besides no one here actually CARES about there rank an score do they? or do they an not want to add another death to their K/D.
the only thing is if it is changed for vehicles it would most likely be changed for planes too, an do u really wanna give that guy who chased u all the way back to base a few more seconds before u can land successfully.
IMO people who think every request is whine really ought a expand there vocabulary,don't shun everyone for having an opinion.....tards :D
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Can't say I've ever had this happen to me when bombing gvs or maybe I didn't notice? :lol hurri d is a lot of fun against gvs especially swiping your own sides kills at a spawn camp :D GV has the potential to be exciting but any time you spawn into some action theres about 15 guns pointed waiting for you even if you make a run for it you usually don't get far :lol Which leads me to ask the question what is the thrill of 9-10 camping a spawn? :headscratch: I just don't get it granted your there to kill GVs appearing but doesn't having to compete with 10 of your team mates not cheese you off? :headscratch:
(this is a serious question for GVers btw)
U think its bad now.. There was a time when the gv's would spawn in nearly the exact same spot every time. would only have a to move the turret just a few mils.. Ahh the good ol' days :joystick: :cheers:
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I have issues with GVs trying to kill my plane. Many times I'm just doing acrobatics to entertain them.
Same here, I can't believe they actually want to shoot me down :(
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I will bomb GVs all day especially when certain people in this game drive tanks that will kill u with one shot after being hit hit 15-20 times by a more powerful tank.
I know what your implying here because you had 2 threads shut down because of it. The reason this might happen is because your shooting the tank at it's strongest point, and he hits you at your weakest point. The effect a tank round has on another tank all depends on where you hit it & the distance the round traveled, you don't get the same amount of damage no matter where your round hits the tank.
As for those complaining about people towering when the whistle of the bomb is heard it's a legitimate tactic in the game, like others have mentioned, if you were on the runway and saw a plane coming in to vultch are you gonna just sit there and let him kill you?
And why are you bombing a gv when the hangers are still up to begin with, to get an easy kill? If you kill him all he's gonna do is up again. If your using the argument that this tactic wasn't possible in WW2, well in WW2 I doubt the guys bombing would have killed GV's right next to a hanger full of them, wouldn't they take the hangers out first?
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Lol, I said you guys. Players in general.
2nd. The difference is that the GV was not just spawning without knowledge of a bomb being on the way. It had been fighting for a while. Can you tell me if a Panzer crew engaged in battle could even see the plane coming? How long would it take the driver to get out and out of range of the blast? No risk to the plane? Why, there is ack, maned ack, flaks, and other planes that he had to avoid and then he had to aim right, not auger, etc. I can also give you the crap responses we get on CVs being sunk (if you dont want it sunk, defend it). If you don't want to get bombed, defend your GVs with flacks. The moment you get in one, you should expect to get bombed.
Bottom line is, its lame. Don;t want to get bombed, don't get in one.
So, give me my auto bail over my field to count as a safe landing. After all, I am over my field, why shouldn't it count my kills?
Best post in this thread. Every point is spot on.
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well i don't see much a problem wit this request, maybe a second or 2 before you return to the tower to represent getting out of ur vehicle or plane (in a crackhead speed at that). besides no one here actually CARES about there rank an score do they? or do they an not want to add another death to their K/D.
the only thing is if it is changed for vehicles it would most likely be changed for planes too, an do u really wanna give that guy who chased u all the way back to base a few more seconds before u can land successfully.
IMO people who think every request is whine really ought a expand there vocabulary,don't shun everyone for having an opinion.....tards :D
see./.the problem with people requesting things like this.....is that those are the types of people that've caused a dozen laws for one single thing in real life.
they think they can regulate common sense. in here, they think they can regulate game play. they fail to understand, that someone will ALWAYS find a way to "game" the game.
look at the recent adjustment to the turret speed in the wirbels. there's already been at least 2 threads on how to game that.
just use that big blob of grey stuff between your ears, and adapt to the situation. :aok
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The benefits of home field advantage.
(http://www.futura-sciences.com/uploads/tx_oxcsfutura/comprendre/d/images/474/teleportation_3.jpg)
If its "in the game" then folk will use it and whining about the fact that they do is wasted debate.
IMO it would be neat if the Gv hung around for a few seconds after the player towered out. This way (if the gv is destroyed) it becomes the equivilent of a bail... the player survived but the GV is destroyed and the players status could be confirmed after those few seconds have elapsed.
if the same thing happened with a /.ef (in any vehicle) then it would still work.
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see./.the problem with people requesting things like this.....is that those are the types of people that've caused a dozen laws for one single thing in real life.
they think they can regulate common sense. in here, they think they can regulate game play. they fail to understand, that someone will ALWAYS find a way to "game" the game.
i see, yea me doesnt like all them laws
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If you use a heavy bomber to bomb GVs you stink. If you cant get past a good tank and you up to go bomb him you stink.
I hope you can live with that. :D
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:D Makes mental note to bomb Chalenge next time he kills me in a tank lol....(You'll be safe mate, cant bomb for anything ;))
Wurzel
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:D Makes mental note to bomb Chalenge next time he kills me in a tank lol....(You'll be safe mate, cant bomb for anything ;))
Wurzel
Ha! Just yesterday I went out and killed two tanks coming in to our field deep in rook territory but as I was driving back to the base seven air cons came in to flatten the field and then decided to bomb my tiger. I managed to ping a few with my pintle and actually destroyed one altogether but they mostly augered trying to shoot or bomb me and then I got a few M3s before the other bish drove from our spawn to the field and could defend it. At that point I was getting assists on M3s even though I was causing tracks to fail and smoking something on them so I landed. I never used to like tank battles but in the heat of things like that its actually a ton of fun and even exciting at times even if you do die but having some noob come bomb you after you have decimated his friends is... LAME.
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If one is going to throw a fit about the gv that was there, no longer being there,one needs to bomb from whence he came. Such nonsense would then not be an issue.
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If one is going to throw a fit about the gv that was there, no longer being there,one needs to bomb from whence he came. Such nonsense would then not be an issue.
Go back from which you came ! What is shall be done! :furious
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" In Peter Griffith voice " Go back from WHENCE you came. Whence would be the word you were groping for. Just saying
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LOL silence fat man!
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I know what your implying here because you had 2 threads shut down because of it. The reason this might happen is because your shooting the tank at it's strongest point, and he hits you at your weakest point. The effect a tank round has on another tank all depends on where you hit it & the distance the round traveled, you don't get the same amount of damage no matter where your round hits the tank.
As for those complaining about people towering when the whistle of the bomb is heard it's a legitimate tactic in the game, like others have mentioned, if you were on the runway and saw a plane coming in to vultch are you gonna just sit there and let him kill you?
And why are you bombing a gv when the hangers are still up to begin with, to get an easy kill? If you kill him all he's gonna do is up again. If your using the argument that this tactic wasn't possible in WW2, well in WW2 I doubt the guys bombing would have killed GV's right next to a hanger full of them, wouldn't they take the hangers out first?
WRONG! nice try.... :bolt:
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I know what your implying here because you had 2 threads shut down because of it. The reason this might happen is because your shooting the tank at it's strongest point, and he hits you at your weakest point. The effect a tank round has on another tank all depends on where you hit it & the distance the round traveled, you don't get the same amount of damage no matter where your round hits the tank.
I should have been more specific.... WRONG! nice try. We're not talking about random sloppy shots. We're talking about specifics...close range....point blank...etc., etc., etc... :x
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So planes stay away from GV bases and GVs stay away from Plane bases. hmmm
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Been playing AH & AH2 off and on since at least 2004 and the gameplay has stayed the same. GV's "towering out" make up for the lack of overhead cover and other obstacles which would normally protect them from the prying eyes of an A-20 at 10,000 ft There is also the issue of bombers having the "cheat" of knowing the exact layout of every base in the game and knowing where GVs will spawn in.
If they are towering out when you drop on them, maybe you should try different bombing tactics. The carpet bomb attack in Lancasters at 1K over a GV base is pretty old and used often. Try doing some high altitude bombing or diving in from the sun from 15,000+ ft. Less chance of seeing them tower out as there is a better chance of them not seeing you.
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Been playing AH & AH2 off and on since at least 2004 and the gameplay has stayed the same. GV's "towering out" make up for the lack of overhead cover and other obstacles which would normally protect them from the prying eyes of an A-20 at 10,000 ft There is also the issue of bombers having the "cheat" of knowing the exact layout of every base in the game and knowing where GVs will spawn in.
If they are towering out when you drop on them, maybe you should try different bombing tactics. The carpet bomb attack in Lancasters at 1K over a GV base is pretty old and used often. Try doing some high altitude bombing or diving in from the sun from 15,000+ ft. Less chance of seeing them tower out as there is a better chance of them not seeing you.
ju88's diving would be interesting.....'specially since they dive bombed in rl. funny, we see guys do this in lancs, and 17's, but never in a bomber that actually did it. and 88's carry more ords than a 17.....or is it the same?
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I like money...
Dude, is that pic from idiocracy??? That movie is the shiznit. :rock
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Been playing AH & AH2 off and on since at least 2004 and the gameplay has stayed the same. GV's "towering out" make up for the lack of overhead cover and other obstacles which would normally protect them from the prying eyes of an A-20 at 10,000 ft There is also the issue of bombers having the "cheat" of knowing the exact layout of every base in the game and knowing where GVs will spawn in.
If they are towering out when you drop on them, maybe you should try different bombing tactics. The carpet bomb attack in Lancasters at 1K over a GV base is pretty old and used often. Try doing some high altitude bombing or diving in from the sun from 15,000+ ft. Less chance of seeing them tower out as there is a better chance of them not seeing you.
1K too high. I've been doing the 40-50ft off the deck, pull up at the last minute, salvo 6-12, delay .25. They usually don't see me untill they don't have time to tower.
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So planes stay away from GV bases and GVs stay away from Plane bases. hmmm
i had a gv base chase me all the way back to base, i dragged it though the ack. :devil :rofl :neener: :noid
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be sure when i see you catdaddy i will blow you out of the sky :devil