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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: haggerty on December 23, 2009, 09:58:56 PM
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I dont think it would be a bad addition if rear gunners on planes such as the IL2, 110, SBD, TBM, etc... be made to auto fire like the ack on airbases. Not as accurate as a human controlled gunner could fire, but atleast something that has a chance of hitting if the bogey hangs around long enough.
There is really no purpose to gun for someone score wise, and its not really feasable to ask for a gunner every time you take off. Human manpower is limited. I dont believe you should need 2 human players to take full use of an airplane. Strategic level bombers I can understand having to gun yourself...but single or dual engined attack planes I think should have this option.
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Sounds good to me. :joystick:
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Not on the IL2, that thing is border line 20mm
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No otto weenies please
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+1 :airplane: :airplane:
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I dont think it would be a bad addition if rear gunners on planes such as the IL2, 110, SBD, TBM, etc... be made to auto fire like the ack on airbases. Not as accurate as a human controlled gunner could fire, but atleast something that has a chance of hitting if the bogey hangs around long enough.
There is really no purpose to gun for someone score wise, and its not really feasable to ask for a gunner every time you take off. Human manpower is limited. I dont believe you should need 2 human players to take full use of an airplane. Strategic level bombers I can understand having to gun yourself...but single or dual engined attack planes I think should have this option.
No.
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I dont think it would be a bad addition if rear gunners on planes such as the IL2, 110, SBD, TBM, etc... be made to auto fire like the ack on airbases. Not as accurate as a human controlled gunner could fire, but atleast something that has a chance of hitting if the bogey hangs around long enough.
There is really no purpose to gun for someone score wise, and its not really feasable to ask for a gunner every time you take off. Human manpower is limited. I dont believe you should need 2 human players to take full use of an airplane. Strategic level bombers I can understand having to gun yourself...but single or dual engined attack planes I think should have this option.
all these planes except for the il2 (used mainly as tank killers ) are used as fighters and some are really good at killing. having auto gun would make them more effective figher hunters. I would say no. and actually all the level buffs are the one's that need auto gunners. but then again, i think 999 already has them. he just dont wanna share the code :uhoh J/k.
semp
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Yes. There is already a virtual man sitting in the back seat, what is he doing? Sleeping? I'd like to think not. Let's have him fire his damn gun so I don't have to climb back and forth from my pilot's seat trying to bomb/strafe takes while trying to pop a bandit on my six.
Here's a compromise for those that don't want it. Give them an option to turn it off.
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No. I don't care if it's a pea-shooter, or 50cal. No auto rear gunnery. Too much "what can make the game easier for me?" stuff.
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Speaking from WB experience, auto gunners can be either "useless" or "deadly", no intermediate states. I definitely dont want neither 1st in my plane nor 2nd in enemies.
Get a gunner.
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+1 :aok
Nice idea for those planes with a feeble rear gunner.
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What, import Otto Der Meister-Gunner from Woebirds? No way. Na. No. Not ever. Unless we introduce the Boulton Paul Defiant turret-fighter, in which case yes please, then we Brits will retire our Spitfires and Hurricanes in favour of the Four-Gun Beast and become masters of the AH sky.
:cool:
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Never!
Otto singlehandedly was the source of more gnashing of teeth, tearing out of hair, wailing and moaning to the "Gods" than almost any other single feature.
Hitech has built "Much" better this time.
You can get someone to join you in flight, can leave again in flight.
You can man the guns yourself while you have a gunner in a drone.
But we do NOT need or want Otto.
Otto is for the lazy and incompetent.
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Sorry, but no.
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Speaking from WB experience, auto gunners can be either "useless" or "deadly", no intermediate states. I definitely dont want neither 1st in my plane nor 2nd in enemies.
Get a gunner.
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rooks need a gunner even in a pidly ole 110, ill gun.
Long as you arent a tard :aok
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No otto weenies please
:cry
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NO NO NO Spend the hours in the tail of your buff , get good , come back with a different perspective . This is a game of skill . Systems managment has been sufficiently "dumbed down" so that with pratice one can accurately fly/bomb/defend with little trouble . Absofrikkenlutely no reason to put auto guns on aircraft . (besides we already get all the guns in the plane slaved to the postion we shoot from)
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Doesnt matter if your good at gunning when your flying an attack aircraft. Your never going to jump in the rear gun of a 110 because its always better to avoid rather than gun...leaving the gunners on many planes unused. You shouldnt need more than 1 human to get full advantage of your aircraft. But in level bombers your not going to be avoiding with a flight of bombers so its alot more reasonable to expect the pilot to jump on the guns. And even when gunning level bombers you can use rudder to do subtle movements.
Not to mention the game doesnt really handle gunning for a moving aircraft very well...even with pilot and gunner living in texas with 30 ping to server the warping is just too bad while gunner side tries to update its location.
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You want otto gunners? Dude you are in wrong game ,how about a Hmack and Startfau ore commandos its Aces High and not WB ..btw I like the hit engine oil explosion in WB
WTG otto! you shoot him down
Lets clear the field with our ottos
SYSTEM:otto landet 5 kills from Autogunners ACME
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from the book of dweeb
nd a cry went out amongst the land to protecteth the pitiful and fragile eunuch bombers, who now spake only with the voice of Ottina. But the masses speaketh with a louder voice. "Otto is not Human, but a vile and magical demon is he. We cannot smite yon dragon for the Otto doth protect him like a lioness to her cubs." And so the Gods of ICI doth fix the Otto and the bombers were protecteth by his mighty particle beam no more. And much carnage doth happen. But lo, learneth the Buff Dweebs that truly mayest the bombers surviveth as a group and yet could they lay waste to the land. But all that was needed was 3.
:cheers:
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:rofl
Also from the book of dweeb chapters 9 to 21
And the lord hitech spoketh, he who is dweeb by nature shall need not fear from ottos purge. for he shall be in thy Tempest or Pony an lo the buffs shall fall before him. But those of pure spirit who cometh from the realm of tards cried to the lord and praised him for his wisdom in smiting Otto to the depths of hell in the high hopes that they may continue ramming and HOing to defend thy pixels from harm.
So noweth the dweebs and the tards live in constant unity, for now a new race is born, that of the alt monkeying bufftard and the former enemies now have the common goal of the erradication of the buffs.
here endeth this rather pointless lesson.
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OK FOR ALL YOU THAT SAY NO......HOW ABOUT THE CHOICE TO TAKE OFF THE REAR GUN. tHE REAR GUN JUST ADDS WAIT. iF THE REAR GUN IS OF NO USE THEN IT POINTLESS!
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when i up a 110 or il2 I empty the rear gun except for the last 30 to 50 bullets. that is just so I can give somebody something to think about in cases where i cant turn. some people actually get more carefull and gives me sometimes time to get that last building or whatever.
semp
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when i up an il2 I empty the rear gun
Why? It only has 200 rounds and has a pretty good punch.
Aim for the enemy cockpit. :aok
-5 for auto gunners.
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OK FOR ALL YOU THAT SAY NO......HOW ABOUT THE CHOICE TO TAKE OFF THE REAR GUN. tHE REAR GUN JUST ADDS WAIT. iF THE REAR GUN IS OF NO USE THEN IT POINTLESS!
[sarcasm]
I will gladly demonstrate to you how useless the rear gun in a buff is anytime.
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[sarcasm]
I will gladly demonstrate to you how useless the rear gun in a buff is anytime.
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this he was talking about the light bombers (not the b26, lancs, etc.)
semp
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this he was talking about the light bombers (not the b26, lancs, etc.)
semp
So am I
EDIT: Well... more the mediums. But in the right hands the rear guns in the light ones are just as deadly.
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OK FOR ALL YOU THAT SAY NO......HOW ABOUT THE CHOICE TO TAKE OFF THE REAR GUN. tHE REAR GUN JUST ADDS WAIT. iF THE REAR GUN IS OF NO USE THEN IT POINTLESS!
Ah ah ah, field mod. And we all know that unless a field mod was standard across the service, it will not be added. Duh! :rolleyes:
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Not on the IL2, that thing is border line 20mm
The IL2's rear gun borderlines on being a 20mm? Just because one scored a 'Golden BB' shot on your plane at one time doesn't mean it's got the near power of 20mm cannon. It's a rather weak defensive gun.
ack-ack
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i would love for the rear gunners in the 2 man planes to do little auto ack bursts and the il2's tail gun is 200 rounds of 50 cal ammo hardly a 20mm but it gets more dmg because its being fired into a plane moving into it I find the game actually models this speed difference and direction of the bullets Besides if your afraid of the auto ack hitting you with a single 30 cal every 3-4 bursts on a SLOW Near HELPLESS 2 man plane like a tbm etc then you need to work on your gunnery and merges.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :furious :bolt:
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The IL2's rear gun borderlines on being a 20mm? Just because one scored a 'Golden BB' shot on your plane at one time doesn't mean it's got the near power of 20mm cannon. It's a rather weak defensive gun.
ack-ack
true once i stayed behind one just for testing purposes and that guy pinged the hell out of me and my plane was fine. then again he was shooting mostly at my wings
semp