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Title: college bolw games
Post by: oakranger on January 01, 2010, 07:13:06 PM
Well, so far i like what i am seeing.


PSU beat LSU and Ohio state with in min. of beating OU.  What about the sooners, where where they all season long,
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: trigger2 on January 01, 2010, 07:17:53 PM
Well, so far i like what i am seeing.


PSU beat LSU and Ohio state with in min. of beating OU.  What about the sooners, where where they all season long,

It's U of O, OSU is the Beavers. ;)

Still praying the Ducks can come through with a miracle...
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: oakranger on January 01, 2010, 07:24:27 PM
YEA, BUCKEYES WON!!!!!

That Oregon team will be a better next year with a handful of returning starters. 
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: fudgums on January 01, 2010, 07:29:09 PM
Yep all them pac 10 lovers. You loose to ohio state lol
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: oakranger on January 01, 2010, 07:43:34 PM
Yep all them pac 10 lovers. You loose to ohio state lol

It is not the Pac 10 who are the trash talkers, it is SEC. 
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: fudgums on January 01, 2010, 07:52:36 PM
Do you remember the thread a few months bacK how the kids came out and said the pac10 is the best. Yep they loose to ohio state
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: oakranger on January 01, 2010, 08:14:04 PM
Do you remember the thread a few months bacK how the kids came out and said the pac10 is the best. Yep they loose to ohio state

here is what we have as far as conference standing.

SEC    2-4
Pac10  2-5
Big12  4-2
Big 10  3-2

SEC not as strong as they think they are.  Big 10 with three big wins
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: Masherbrum on January 01, 2010, 08:21:17 PM
Do you remember the thread a few months bacK how the kids came out and said the pac10 is the best. Yep they loose to ohio state

They "forgot".   :devil
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: Hoarach on January 01, 2010, 08:32:44 PM
Well the way things are going looks like Gators going to be killing Cincy...WOOOO
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: Spikes on January 01, 2010, 09:44:33 PM
Woot PSU.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: Skulls22 on January 01, 2010, 09:45:58 PM
SEC says big ten teams shouldn't be in bowl games (PSU Vs. LSU)
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: Masherbrum on January 01, 2010, 09:49:01 PM
Cincinnati is a fraud.   One more "Fraud to be exposed".    :devil
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: Skulls22 on January 01, 2010, 09:51:16 PM
Nah, cincinati did great, they diserve the bowl game! (Florida will kill them)
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: Hoarach on January 01, 2010, 09:54:24 PM
SEC says big ten teams shouldn't be in bowl games (PSU Vs. LSU)

Well look how many times Ohio State has choked in big games.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: Skulls22 on January 01, 2010, 09:58:31 PM
Well look how many times Ohio State has choked in big games.


The past is the past, Now the big ten has the Rose Bolw Champs. Sorry Pac 10!
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: Hoarach on January 01, 2010, 10:12:08 PM
I dont like the Pac-10 either Im a SEC guy.

Pac-10 as a whole is overhyped imo.  USC should not have expected to have been good losing all those starters and oregon was the only legit team in the Pac-10 but that loss to Boise did raise questions about just how good they actually are.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: Reschke on January 01, 2010, 10:24:42 PM

here is what we have as far as conference standing.

SEC    2-4
Pac10  2-5
Big12  4-2
Big 10  3-2

SEC not as strong as they think they are.  Big 10 with three big wins


I think you need to go back and look again oakdinger; the SEC is 2-3 with the 3rd win going to be posted a little later tonight. BUT so far you have had the SEC downtrodden and reduced freshmen squads are getting practice and playing time so far. Oh BTW the Big-10...errr choke conference only has 2 wins so far and that might be all they get since they other two games are against some pretty good football teams.

You can't put a POS Tennessee team with a POS head coach up against a quality opponent like VT and expect them to win. Even us SEC fans aren't that stupid unlike all you Pac-10 fools. Kentucky wasn't that good this year but they still did a decent job against a decent Clemson team. LSU was out coached...but then anyone that watches SEC football knows that Les Miles (LSU head coach) couldn't beat his way out of a wet paper bag with a sharp stick. Tomorrow is the separation day for the SEC teams that are the good ones.

South Carolina should win but it is going to be close; in fact I should be there at that game tomorrow just to watch it since they are playing the bowl game here in Birmingham. Ole Miss and Arkansas should both win but for Arkansas it is going to depend on which offensive unit shows up.

See down here we tend to understand football and play football better than most of you other homers. I am not saying we all know what we are talking about but I find that ding dongs from other areas who tout the throw and show conferences don't know jack and only watch ESPN Sports Center for the highlights to make themselves look good. Come down here to the south and I promise you will not find any other region as INTENSE about college football and people that understand the intricacies of coverages, defensive schemes and how to run the various offenses like you find here. We start 'em young and they tend to be the ones that populate the majority of the NFL rosters that all the wannabes see playing on Sunday.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: oakranger on January 01, 2010, 11:37:48 PM
Well look how many times Ohio State has choked in big games.

i counted one game that they choked... against FU.  They where not favor to will against Texas in 2008 and thanks to so many 1# ranked team that kept loosing in 2007, OSU just got right back to that spot to play LSU.  so technically they did not choke in that game nor where they favor to win it.  

thx Reschke, not sure where i got that 4th lost in the SEC.  Big 10 3 wins are OSU, PSU and Wisc (beat Miami) 


Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: fudgums on January 02, 2010, 09:14:52 AM
Does the Big East still deserve its BCS bowl bid?

Rutgers defeated some no name school.
Pitt barely looses to an UNC team that lost its running back.
WVU looses to a 6-6 Florida State team.
Cincinatti gets destroyed by Florida.
Uconn plays South Carolina either today or tomorrow.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: BoilerDown on January 02, 2010, 12:14:56 PM
Oregon should have lost to a Purdue team that didn't even qualify for a bowl, earlier this season.  I correctly picked both the Ohio State and Penn State games in my confidence pool.  That put the conference at 3-2.  But Michigan State pretty much has no chance against Texas Tech.  The Iowa game should be interesting, I have Iowa picked to win.  A 4-3 result in bowls this season for the Big Ten will look pretty good.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: fudgums on January 02, 2010, 12:17:27 PM
Oregon should have lost to a Purdue team that didn't even qualify for a bowl, earlier this season.  I correctly picked both the Ohio State and Penn State games in my confidence pool.  That put the conference at 3-2.  But Michigan State pretty much has no chance against Texas Tech.  The Iowa game should be interesting, I have Iowa picked to win.  A 4-3 result in bowls this season for the Big Ten will look pretty good.


Iowa won't beat Georgia Tech.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: Hoarach on January 02, 2010, 02:09:33 PM
Uconn looking good against South Carolina right now....13-0.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: Hajo on January 02, 2010, 02:41:19 PM
I knew Cinci wouldn't have a chance against Florida.  I watched Cinci play Illinois....the worst team in the Big10 and almost lost.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: Reschke on January 02, 2010, 04:54:08 PM
South Carolina came out and flubbed it up big time. They have an explosive offense and a really good defense but they put neither one on the bus ride from Columbia, SC to Birmingham for this game. I ended up giving my tickets away this morning since I still wasn't feeling good (sinus infection and bronchitis) and hated it until I watched the game this afternoon.


Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: oakranger on January 02, 2010, 05:11:03 PM
Oregon should have lost to a Purdue team that didn't even qualify for a bowl, earlier this season.  I correctly picked both the Ohio State and Penn State games in my confidence pool.  That put the conference at 3-2.  But Michigan State pretty much has no chance against Texas Tech.  The Iowa game should be interesting, I have Iowa picked to win.  A 4-3 result in bowls this season for the Big Ten will look pretty good.


Yes, Big 10 is better than most ppl think.  And if they go 4-3 this year, it is far better than the pst three three years.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: BoilerDown on January 02, 2010, 05:27:15 PM
I'm by no means confident in Iowa.  All the other option offenses have won, and in fact I was the only one in my confidence pool to correctly pick Air Force.  I hope they do win though, it'll be a huge pickup for me in the pool, might be enough to put me in the money :) .
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: Skulls22 on January 02, 2010, 06:00:00 PM
You can't count MSU out tonight, they still pack a punch. TT can't come out playing as if MSU is a nobody team, or they might pay. I am leaning to an upset, MSU 28, TT 24.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: BoilerDown on January 03, 2010, 05:06:03 PM
You can't count MSU out tonight, they still pack a punch. TT can't come out playing as if MSU is a nobody team, or they might pay. I am leaning to an upset, MSU 28, TT 24.
Jeez, I hope you didn't go to MSU, its Motor City, not Moter City.  And MSU put up a much better fight than I expected.  I'm looking forward to how Iowa fares. 

I also have Boise State picked to win, and almost no one else does in my pool, so if I'm right its huge, if I'm wrong, I'm probably done.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: Masherbrum on January 03, 2010, 05:28:18 PM
Yes, Big 10 is better than most ppl think.  And if they go 4-3 this year, it is far better than the pst three three years.

Aside from OSU, Penn State and Wisconsin, the rest are fighting for nothing.   
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: BoilerDown on January 03, 2010, 09:02:23 PM
Aside from OSU, Penn State and Wisconsin, the rest are fighting for nothing.
Iowa didn't have a good season?  10 wins isn't good enough for you?
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: fudgums on January 03, 2010, 09:07:31 PM
BYU had a 10 win season, Iowa lost to northwestern that lost to auburn and ohio state.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: oakranger on January 03, 2010, 10:58:17 PM
Aside from OSU, Penn State and Wisconsin, the rest are fighting for nothing.   


I knows.  The three team that won are the big ones.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: 68ZooM on January 04, 2010, 01:09:01 PM
YEA, BUCKEYES WON!!!!!

That Oregon team will be a better next year with a handful of returning starters. 

Congrats to Ohio State they just played better, Oregon got off to a slow start figuring out OSU's game plan, but all in all it was a good game, Oregon is only losing i think 5 starters, 3 offense 2 defense. I'll be looking forward to how James will run next year, only time will tell, so the waiting begins for next season. GO DUCKS !!
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: oakranger on January 04, 2010, 01:11:33 PM
Congrats to Ohio State they just played better, Oregon got off to a slow start figuring out OSU's game plan, but all in all it was a good game, Oregon is only losing i think 5 starters, 3 offense 2 defense. I'll be looking forward to how James will run next year, only time will tell, so the waiting begins for next season. GO DUCKS !!

Yea, they will be a hard team to beat in the Pac 10 and hope they pound the crap out of U$C.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: 68ZooM on January 04, 2010, 01:22:15 PM
Yea, they will be a hard team to beat in the Pac 10 and hope they pound the crap out of U$C.

i think USC is going to have a bad year next year, it seemed like the wheels were falling off the mighty Trojan machine in the last few weeks, how they acted when they played UCLA they there frustration seemed to show. guess we will see come September 2010.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: Hoarach on January 04, 2010, 03:42:42 PM
i think USC is going to have a bad year next year, it seemed like the wheels were falling off the mighty Trojan machine in the last few weeks, how they acted when they played UCLA they there frustration seemed to show. guess we will see come September 2010.

Wait until you hear the whining Pete Carroll again and his excuses.  Surprised havent seen the whining that much this year.

Next year USC should be overall bad compared to their other years.  Losing the WRs, the great OL, imo Barkley is overrated, no more Mays, and they going to put all the pressure on McKnight.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: fudgums on January 04, 2010, 04:19:14 PM
I agrée with karaya but pete carrol recruits well, taylor mays is overrated imo, just look how teams treated him
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: BoilerDown on January 04, 2010, 10:50:31 PM
I also have Boise State picked to win, and almost no one else does in my pool, so if I'm right its huge, if I'm wrong, I'm probably done.

I all of the sudden have an excellent chance to win something.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: oakranger on January 04, 2010, 10:51:56 PM
BSU WON!!!!   :x What a game that was.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: alskahawk on January 05, 2010, 02:50:33 AM
"BYU had a 10 win season, Iowa lost to northwestern that lost to auburn and ohio state."

 Iowa was dominating Northwestern early in the game when thier QB, Rick Stanzi went down with a ankle injury. They brought in a true freshman QB and lost 17-10. The next week they went to Ohio State with the freshman QB and lost in overtime, 27-24. Iowa finished up beating Minnesota, ending the regular season 10-2.  

 Rick Stanzi will be active for the bowl game. If he goes down, freshman Adam Vandenburg will be called on. He is a lot of upside. Very accurate. Tall. Good pocket presence. Lacks experiance. Skinny. Two years from now he will probably be a top college QB.

  Iowa's strength is its defense. The run defense isn't as stout as in years past but it's still solid. Adrian Clayborn is a sack threat from the DE position. In the secondary, S Tyler Sash leads the Hawkeyes with 6 interceptions. Overall the defense has 20 interceptions. Amari Spievay is a top notch corner and like Adrian Clayborn edgible for the NFL this year. Spievay's weakness is that he occasonally takes chances. He has the speed to recover quickly, so he will probably draw GT's top reciever.  

 Iowa has three top NFL prospects, DE Clayborn, C Spievay, and OL Buluga. Clayborn has already decided to put the NFL off for a year. The rest of the Hawkeye team will be back next year.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: BoilerDown on January 05, 2010, 11:58:45 AM
"BYU had a 10 win season, Iowa lost to northwestern that lost to auburn and ohio state."

 Iowa was dominating Northwestern early in the game when thier QB, Rick Stanzi went down with a ankle injury. They brought in a true freshman QB and lost 17-10. The next week they went to Ohio State with the freshman QB and lost in overtime, 27-24. Iowa finished up beating Minnesota, ending the regular season 10-2.  

 Rick Stanzi will be active for the bowl game. If he goes down, freshman Adam Vandenburg will be called on. He is a lot of upside. Very accurate. Tall. Good pocket presence. Lacks experiance. Skinny. Two years from now he will probably be a top college QB.

  Iowa's strength is its defense. The run defense isn't as stout as in years past but it's still solid. Adrian Clayborn is a sack threat from the DE position. In the secondary, S Tyler Sash leads the Hawkeyes with 6 interceptions. Overall the defense has 20 interceptions. Amari Spievay is a top notch corner and like Adrian Clayborn edgible for the NFL this year. Spievay's weakness is that he occasonally takes chances. He has the speed to recover quickly, so he will probably draw GT's top reciever.  

 Iowa has three top NFL prospects, DE Clayborn, C Spievay, and OL Buluga. Clayborn has already decided to put the NFL off for a year. The rest of the Hawkeye team will be back next year.

Didn't you hear?  Your worth as a college football program isn't determined by your record, or what bowl you're in, or what bowl you win, its entirely determined by your reputation of being an "elite" program.  If you're not an "elite" program before the season starts, you're playing for nothing.

In all seriousness, I'm in the money in my pool in 6 of 8 scenarios, 5 of them being first place, including every scenario with an Iowa win.  Only if GT and Texas both win do I get nothing.  I just need a little more to go my way now :x.


P.s. Ohio State lost to Purdue, and Purdue didn't even make a bowl.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: alskahawk on January 05, 2010, 08:56:18 PM
 "Didn't you hear?  Your worth as a college football program isn't determined by your record, or what bowl you're in, or what bowl you win, its entirely determined by your reputation of being an "elite" program.  If you're not an "elite" program before the season starts, you're playing for nothing."

 LOL Ya I missed that part of the discussion. Far to many teams getting a bye on their reputation rather than their on field skills.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: fudgums on January 05, 2010, 09:09:36 PM
  Far to many teams getting a bye on their reputation rather than their on field skills.


Like who? Texas and Alabama are in the National championship because they are the best teams in the country. Coaching, talent, speed, size whatever you want to put up against that they are better than them. USC was exposed this year, they didn't beat teams that were better than them. USC is young, I think Barkley could do great things but we will have to see. Pete Carrol is a great recruiter, and his classes show that.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: oakranger on January 05, 2010, 09:57:47 PM
I really do not thinl Matt Barkly will be that great.  He dose not have the size, speed or ability to deliver. 
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: fudgums on January 05, 2010, 10:06:03 PM
He beat ohio state at the horse shoe oak.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: BoilerDown on January 05, 2010, 10:35:10 PM
That's it, I just beat 18 other people in this pool with 2 bowl games yet to be played.  Nice job Iowa, I had my doubts about picking you, but you delivered :) .
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: oakranger on January 06, 2010, 12:23:17 AM
Good win Iowa.

This is the standing of W/L

SEC- 5-4
Big Ten- 4-3
Big 12 - 4-3
Pac 10 - 2-5
ACC - 3-4
WAC - 2-2
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: Hoarach on January 06, 2010, 12:47:16 AM
I also dont think Barkley will be a great QB like USC has had in the past.  I dont think he will ever be a QB they can flat out give the ball to and say get me the win.

Personally Id like to see Matt Corp get another chance but that is just me.

Theyll probably recruit a better QB anyways as it would be appealing to a high school QB knowing that they have a legit chance at starting a place such as USC knowing that the QB situation there is uncertain at least imo Barkley cant say he has 100% security in his position.

He wont have the great OL next year and probably the year after.  Mcknight may go to the NFL next year and he is losing some key WRs this year.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: BoilerDown on January 06, 2010, 12:54:42 AM
Good win Iowa.

This is the standing of W/L

SEC- 5-4
Big Ten- 4-3
Big 12 - 4-3
Pac 10 - 2-5
ACC - 3-4
WAC - 2-2

Big East 4-2
MWC 4-1

Hopefully we get a playoff soon.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: alskahawk on January 06, 2010, 01:37:38 AM
 "Like who? Texas and Alabama are in the National championship because they are the best teams in the country. Coaching, talent, speed, size whatever you want to put up against that they are better than them. USC was exposed this year, they didn't beat teams that were better than them. USC is young, I think Barkley could do great things but we will have to see. Pete Carrol is a great recruiter, and his classes show that."

   Look at how the Boise State used the media to campaign for a better ranking. They complain that they can't schedule good teams and the BCS ignores them as they rack up wins in a weak conference. The media rewards them with a top 5 ranking.
  Boise State was impressive in their bowl game, but what competition did they play against to get a top 5 ranking? Tulsa? A first game win against Oregon? Must be nice to play Cal Davis, New Mexico State, Utah State, Idaho....

 Look at the schedules of the Pac 10, Big 10, Big 12, SEC. Getting through the respective conference schedules is a challenge in itself for any of these teams.
The pass or bye comes when one of these top teams rebuilds. USC and Ohio State. Both have young talent. Lot of potential. Niether team was that impressive on the field. Yet almost every sportscaster and poll had them in the top 15 after they lost. Eventually back to  the top 10.

 If Texas loses, the argument can be made that that the best teams in the country are Florida and Alabama.
 
  
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: oakranger on January 06, 2010, 02:05:56 AM
Big East 4-2
MWC 4-1

Hopefully we get a playoff soon.


Just wait.  There will be a commercial that will air during the Bama and Teaxs game regarding the BCS and why we need a playoff system.  I also believe they will air it in Texas, Idaho, Utah and Ohio.  The commercial is attacking the President of BSC regarding the remark about how "not everyone can not play for the NC"  after he was asked about having two or more undefended teams like this pass year and why BSU, Ciny and TCU have been ignored. 
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: fudgums on January 06, 2010, 07:38:18 AM

   Look at how the Boise State used the media to campaign for a better ranking. They complain that they can't schedule good teams and the BCS ignores them as they rack up wins in a weak conference. The media rewards them with a top 5 ranking.
  Boise State was impressive in their bowl game, but what competition did they play against to get a top 5 ranking? Tulsa? A first game win against Oregon? Must be nice to play Cal Davis, New Mexico State, Utah State, Idaho....

 Look at the schedules of the Pac 10, Big 10, Big 12, SEC. Getting through the respective conference schedules is a challenge in itself for any of these teams.
The pass or bye comes when one of these top teams rebuilds. USC and Ohio State. Both have young talent. Lot of potential. Niether team was that impressive on the field. Yet almost every sportscaster and poll had them in the top 15 after they lost. Eventually back to  the top 10.

 If Texas loses, the argument can be made that that the best teams in the country are Florida and Alabama.
 
  

Did you not watch the Boise game at all? Boise state is for real, as is TCU. Boise will be in contention for a national title, and theres no doubt in my mind about that. Don't blame them for people not wanting to play them. They even said they will go there, and no one accepted the offer. Next year their playing at Fedex field against Virginia Tech and against some other team that I forgot. When you play Boise, your in a fight with them.

As for Ohio State and USC, they beat teams like Iowa, Georgia Tech, Cincinnati, LSU, or anyone thats not in the top tier of the league. USC had problems on defense this year and were very young. And it showed against experienced teams like Oregon and Stanford. Ohio State does have a sophomore QB there and many young players. They are still young, yet they make it far. USCs loss to washington, Barkley didn't even play due to injury. Aaron Corp isn't as good as Barkley(yet Corp beat Mater Dei in High school).
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: 68ZooM on January 06, 2010, 11:16:44 AM
Big East 4-2
MWC 4-1

Hopefully we get a playoff soon.


i heard something about congress passed a bill (HR 390) to have a Div 1 playoffs like the other divisions, the BCS will be no more (never liked it) The current college bowl system features a championship game between the two top teams in the BCS standings, based on two polls and six computer rankings. Eight other schools play in the Orange, Sugar, Fiesta and Rose bowls. Under the BCS, the champions of those six big conference have automatic bids, while other conferences don't. Those six conferences also receive far more money than the other conferences.  BCS is all about power and money and they dont like the fact that they might be losing there power and money. People want a playoff system like the other divisions, let them have it i say.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: oakranger on January 06, 2010, 02:49:30 PM
i heard something about congress passed a bill (HR 390) to have a Div 1 playoffs like the other divisions, the BCS will be no more (never liked it) The current college bowl system features a championship game between the two top teams in the BCS standings, based on two polls and six computer rankings. Eight other schools play in the Orange, Sugar, Fiesta and Rose bowls. Under the BCS, the champions of those six big conference have automatic bids, while other conferences don't. Those six conferences also receive far more money than the other conferences.  BCS is all about power and money and they dont like the fact that they might be losing there power and money. People want a playoff system like the other divisions, let them have it i say.


As i said above, there will be a commercial about doing away the BCS.  The BCS hire a PR consultant trying to tell people that a playoff system will never work and TV rates will suffer. 
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: BoilerDown on January 06, 2010, 03:53:02 PM
As i said above, there will be a commercial about doing away the BCS.  The BCS hire a PR consultant trying to tell people that a playoff system will never work and TV rates will suffer.

I look forward to seeing it.  (Hopefully) Without straying into a rule #, I will say that I will vote for anyone who runs on a platform of requiring a playoff in Div 1a football, regardless of what else they stand for.  Its that important to me.

Of course, most people know that only the "elite" football programs will actually suffer, most programs, even the majority of those in BCS conferences, will actually be helped by a playoff.  The bowls will make more money than ever, only the BCS people and around 10-15 football programs nationally will be hurt.  Time to break up this monopoly. 

And yes, my affiliation is with a BCS conference school (namely Purdue, in the Big Ten).
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: alskahawk on January 06, 2010, 05:21:43 PM
 "Did you not watch the Boise game at all? Boise state is for real, as is TCU. Boise will be in contention for a national title, and theres no doubt in my mind about that. Don't blame them for people not wanting to play them. They even said they will go there, and no one accepted the offer. Next year their playing at Fedex field against Virginia Tech and against some other team that I forgot. When you play Boise, your in a fight with them.

As for Ohio State and USC, they beat teams like Iowa, Georgia Tech, Cincinnati, LSU, or anyone thats not in the top tier of the league. USC had problems on defense this year and were very young. And it showed against experienced teams like Oregon and Stanford. Ohio State does have a sophomore QB there and many young players. They are still young, yet they make it far. USCs loss to washington, Barkley didn't even play due to injury. Aaron Corp isn't as good as Barkley(yet Corp beat Mater Dei in High school). ?

 Ohio State beat Iowa with a true freshman QB on his first start. And then they had to do it in overtime. They also lost to Purdue and USC. Barely escaped Navy. But oh I guess they deserve to be considered in the top 10 based on....?  And by the way, neither USC or Ohio State played Georgia Tech, LSU or Cinncinati this year. And Iowa dominated Arizona who beat USC.

 I watched the Boise/TCU game. Boise is a good team. A national contender? Pleeze! Give any of the top twenty teams that schedule and see how they would do. Better than that take a third or fourth place team from the Big 10, Big 12, Pac 10, or SEC and let them play that schedule. Get serious! 
  And you contend they should have played for the National championship? Base on what? Their stellar wins over Cal Davis or Bowling Green? Oh.. no one wants to play Boise State because they are so tough? Yet mysteriously Florida, Texas, Ohio State, USC and Alabama manage to find games. Get real.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: fudgums on January 06, 2010, 06:06:24 PM

 Ohio State beat Iowa with a true freshman QB on his first start. And then they had to do it in overtime. They also lost to Purdue and USC. Barely escaped Navy. But oh I guess they deserve to be considered in the top 10 based on....?  And by the way, neither USC or Ohio State played Georgia Tech, LSU or Cinncinati this year. And Iowa dominated Arizona who beat USC.

 I watched the Boise/TCU game. Boise is a good team. A national contender? Pleeze! Give any of the top twenty teams that schedule and see how they would do. Better than that take a third or fourth place team from the Big 10, Big 12, Pac 10, or SEC and let them play that schedule. Get serious!  
  And you contend they should have played for the National championship? Base on what? Their stellar wins over Cal Davis or Bowling Green? Oh.. no one wants to play Boise State because they are so tough? Yet mysteriously Florida, Texas, Ohio State, USC and Alabama manage to find games. Get real.


Ohio state is younger than Iowa, and they beat them in OT. And your saying Iowa is great? Iowa was loosing in almost every game they played this year going into the 4th quarter or 2nd half. They are more like the Carolina "Cardiac" cats from 04. If you want to call a 27-17 win domination of Arizona?

Boise State 43-42 #8 Oklahoma 2006
Boise State 19-8#10 Oregon 2009
Boise State 17-10 #3 TCU 2009
Boise State 32-17 #17 Oregon 2008
Boise State 61-10 #21 Fresno State 2009
Boise State 42-14 #22 Oregon State 2006
Boise State 34-31 #19 TCU 2004
Boise State 35-20 #8 Fresno State 2001

9 WAC titles
2 10 win seasons
5 12 win seasons
4 undefeated regular seasons
2 undefeated seasons
2 BCS Bowl game wins

132-29 in the decade.

come on man



Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: oakranger on January 06, 2010, 06:28:36 PM

Ohio state is younger than Iowa, and they beat them in OT. And your saying Iowa is great? Iowa was loosing in almost every game they played this year going into the 4th quarter or 2nd half. They are more like the Carolina "Cardiac" cats from 04. If you want to call a 27-17 win domination of Arizona?

Boise State 43-42 #8 Oklahoma 2006
Boise State 19-8#10 Oregon 2009
Boise State 17-10 #3 TCU 2009
Boise State 32-17 #17 Oregon 2008
Boise State 61-10 #21 Fresno State 2009
Boise State 42-14 #22 Oregon State 2006
Boise State 34-31 #19 TCU 2004
Boise State 35-20 #8 Fresno State 2001

9 WAC titles
2 10 win seasons
5 12 win seasons
4 undefeated regular seasons
2 undefeated seasons
2 BCS Bowl game wins

132-29 in the decade.

come on man





Looks like a vary good program that dose not get the respect that it should.  compared that with major schools likw OSU, U$C, Texas, Choklahoma. 
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: fudgums on January 06, 2010, 06:32:31 PM
Looks like a vary good program that dose not get the respect that it should.  compared that with major schools likw OSU, U$C, Texas, Choklahoma. 

Considering they came from D-1AA(FBS) in 1999 or 2000. They came a long way. Especially getting players to come to Idaho.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: oakranger on January 06, 2010, 07:50:15 PM
Considering they came from D-1AA(FBS) in 1999 or 2000. They came a long way. Especially getting players to come to Idaho.

Yea, and i hope they will continued their rage of football talent. 
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: RedTop on January 06, 2010, 08:19:44 PM
Iowa won't beat Georgia Tech.


ooooopppps :eek:

WTG HAWKEYES!!!!!

GO TEXAS
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: Hoarach on January 06, 2010, 09:45:03 PM
The only problem with the idea that Boise doesnt have a chance to play tougher teams is a fault to believe.

Teams have the option to schedule their out of conference games with requests to other schools.  These small schools are sought after by the big names such as USC, Florida, Texas, and Alabama to help them rack up the easy wins before their conference season actually starts.  How else do you think USC plays crap schools such as San Jose, Florida playing Charleston Southern, Alabama playing Florida International, and Texas playing Wyoming. 

The small schools take advantage of this knowing that they will lose but they will get money and publicity out of the television casting.

Boise has the chance to request these bigger programs for games but either they dont or the big schools dont want to play them.  Whichever is the case who knows, but its not entirely Boise not having the chance.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: fudgums on January 06, 2010, 09:53:02 PM
Its all about the $
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: oakranger on January 07, 2010, 11:02:27 PM
This the final  standing of W/L

SEC- 6-4
Big Ten- 4-3
Big 12 - 4-4
Pac 10 - 2-5
ACC - 3-4
WAC - 2-2

SEC had another good year and Big Ten really put up some good game.
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: alskahawk on January 11, 2010, 10:07:37 AM
"Looks like a vary good program that dose not get the respect that it should.  compared that with major schools likw OSU, U$C, Texas, Choklahoma."

 My point...Boise is a very good program. But if they want respect they need a better conference. Give Boise's schedule to any of the top 4 teams from the Big 10,Big12, Pac10, SEC and you would probably have the same result. 12 wins.

 
Title: Re: college bolw games
Post by: BoilerDown on January 11, 2010, 12:00:28 PM
"Looks like a vary good program that dose not get the respect that it should.  compared that with major schools likw OSU, U$C, Texas, Choklahoma."

 My point...Boise is a very good program. But if they want respect they need a better conference. Give Boise's schedule to any of the top 4 teams from the Big 10,Big12, Pac10, SEC and you would probably have the same result. 12 wins.

Nevertheless, they should still have a chance to win the national championship, even if they're seeded 8 and have to play the 1 in an eight team playoff.