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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Puck on January 04, 2010, 10:12:54 PM
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Are these kites going to have blip switches? Crankshaft bolted to the aircraft, propeller bolted to the cylinders?
Those other weenies put pretty modern engines in their Dawn of Aces aircraft.
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Any reason NOT to put blip switches in everything? Most of the kids here run all-or-nothing anyway
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:huh :confused:
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Dunno if they'll model the "blip" switch.
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Pssst.... Lute.... check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_engine
Especially the "rotary engine controls" section. ;)
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Both the F1 and Dr1 rotaries had a throttle, but a blip is still necessary for authenticity. The N28 engine, however, controlled power by the number of firing cylinders.
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Dr1 did not have a true throttle, but rather controlled how many cylinders fired. It also had a mixture control that need to be adjusted during takeoff.
HiTech
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Are you going to give us a BMW powered D.VII? :pray
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Dr1 did not have a true throttle, but rather controlled how many cylinders fired. It also had a mixture control that need to be adjusted during takeoff.
HiTech
Same with the Nieuports if they ever get modelled. (The engine on the Dr.I was an almost exact copy of the Gnome rotary)
Watch the vid linked below, it has an actual Gnome Monosopape engine, so the sound and throttling is accurate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH2yqCKf7UI
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If engine management is modeled accurately enough there won't be any need for combat...just circle the enemy airfield and rack up proximity kills.
'Bout time we got something that can turn with the RV8, though.
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If engine management is modeled accurately enough there won't be any need for combat...just circle the enemy airfield and rack up proximity kills.
I'm not so sure about that. It wasn't excessively difficult to adjust to the engine management in Rise of Flight, which can be a bit touchy in some aircraft. You can over-rev the engine in a dive (dead engine), overheat if you don't have the radiator open enough (dead engine), lose power if you do something stupid with the mixture, and more... But you adjust and can still engage in combat. Now, the F1 on the other hand is a nasty beast. The pitch instability and tendency to spin are epic, and there will be a huge whine fest here at the boards if the AH F1 is comparable to the RoF F1.
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not to turn off subject here but in WWI did they have a thing in the psitons (i cant remember what it was or where) but didnt it keep the bullets from hitting the propeller? and didnt the planes slow down (just a little not alot) when the guns firing?
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not to turn off subject here but in WWI did they have a thing in the psitons (i cant remember what it was or where) but didnt it keep the bullets from hitting the propeller? and didnt the planes slow down (just a little not alot) when the guns firing?
Yes...eventually. It was on the guns, not the engine. There are many (probably apocryphal) stories of pilots shooting off props. Kind of like the stories of pilots running into bullets in the jet age.
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Yes...eventually. It was on the guns, not the engine. There are many (probably apocryphal) stories of pilots shooting off props. Kind of like the stories of pilots running into bullets in the jet age.
There was a Frenchman that had put steel plates on part of the props of his plane so when he'd fire through the propellor arc, the rounds wouldn't chew up the propellor. This was before the disruptor firing mechanism that allowed firing through the propellor arc.
ack-ack
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(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w220/Davis_Andrews/Interrupter_gear_diagram_en.jpg)
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Ha, all of you Fokker dweebs shall die before my Dromendary of Doom :D
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There was a Frenchman that had put steel plates on part of the props of his plane so when he'd fire through the propellor arc, the rounds wouldn't chew up the propellor. This was before the disruptor firing mechanism that allowed firing through the propellor arc.
ack-ack
Roland Garros.
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Roland Garros.
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One problem that he had were the ricochets going all over the place. I would put where I read this but I dont remember, it may have been in one of the Museum books that I read.
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One problem that he had were the ricochets going all over the place. I would put where I read this but I dont remember, it may have been in one of the Museum books that I read.
yeah, recall reading the same but lucky for him, he was never struck by any and it did work well enough that he was able to score three kills before being shot down and killed himself a month before the war ended.
ack-ack
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With all those ricochets He probably shot himself down. :rofl :bolt:
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He was shot down in 1918, after having spend 3 years as a POW and escaping back to the French lines, so no ricochets then.
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"The engine on the Dr.I was an almost exact copy of the Gnome rotary."
Fokker aircraft used Oberursel rotary engines. That company's earlier engines were indeed very closely based on the Gnome Mono, and were fitted to the Eindekker and early D-type biplanes - but the later Oberursel fitted to the Dr.1 Triplane was a copy of the Le Rhone.
Roland Garros was the first pilot to fit hardened-steel deflectors to the prop to enable him to fire through its arc without shooting it full of holes; his aircraft was a Morane-Saulnier Type L monoplane, not a Type N as often reported.
"not to turn off subject here but in WWI did they have a thing in the psitons (i cant remember what it was or where) but didnt it keep the bullets from hitting the propeller? and didnt the planes slow down (just a little not alot) when the guns firing?"
The diagram of the German gun-synchronisation posted by Ack-Ack shows the principles very well. The R.F.C. and R.N.A.S. used a similar system on the single forward-firing Vickers of the Sopwith One-and-a-Half-Strutter (the first British aircraft to be fitted with gun synchronisation). The mechanical linkage was soon replaced by a more reliable hydraulic one and the whole set-up was then developed and produced as the Constantinescu System ('C-C gear') suitable for either single- or twin-Vickers armament; with only slight modifications, it remained the standard equipment on all British aircraft that needed it until WW2, the last types to use it being the Fairey Swordfish and Gloster Gladiator.
And yes, pilots DID sometimes shoot their own propellers off when the gear malfunctioned; it happened at least once to Max Immelmann.
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