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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: mcboi on January 14, 2010, 11:09:47 AM
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Hey guys i have a quick question that involves the arena caps. Why does it seem that the arenas (LW) usually orange is always full? Why do they put such a low cap on the arena, but when you irritate the system (multiple times trying to enter a full arena) it finally lets you in? Why not just make the cap like 350 or 400 all the time? Was trying to get into orange last night because all of my friends/squaddies where in there but it wouldn't let me in. I got extremely frustrated and ended up in the blue.
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This has been covered many times..... search the boards.
If you don't find your answer regarding game setup then call the main offices. They know the why and what for of the game setup. <S>
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Hey guys i have a quick question that involves the arena caps.
This has never been, nor ever will be ... a quick question.
As Shuff suggested ... do a search on "arena cap" ... that should keep you busy for a few days.
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What would be great is if HiTech would consider a screen on startup, possibly on the arena selection screen, that gave a breakdown on the number of players per country currently logged in. I often find myself getting in and out of arena's because of eny only to find the other arena is now capped. Of course I can wait and relog for another opportunity but wouldn't it be nice to be able to forgo all that?
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This has been covered many times..... search the boards.
If you don't find your answer regarding game setup then call the main offices. They know the why and what for of the game setup. <S>
Ah yes, the usual "HTC are always right, got to hell" answer.
It is massively frustrating. Particularly if you live in GMT +13 and you have to be super organised to attend a squad night and you spend 4 hours watching an arena that is 1 or 2 over the arena cap and never get to the point where you can join. I've heard all the rationales behind arena caps over and over and they still make no sense, nor does the "Your whole squad should move to the other arena!" standard answer.
I like to fly with my squad. Given that they haven't thrown me out yet I'm presumably still welcome. I don't fly all that often and when I do I prefer to hook up with squaddies, not fly in another arena for a different country which effectively precludes me hooking up with them the next day.
Yes, I am aware that my opinion is invalid and that my individual value as a customer is negligible in the scheme of things, but, it's still incredibly frustrating to be forced out of spending time with guys who've become friends over the years because of an arbitrary game policy that may or may not be governed by game play or technical game issues.
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If they are your friends, they will switch arenas and/or countries accordingly to fly with you. If they don't, then maybe country or arena is more important to them than you are. You can all fly together if you are willing to.
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Quit being such a baby. :lol
As others have suggested, try using the search feature. This topic has been discussed ad nauseum. The summary is while the current arena cap system is far from perfect, its better than the alternatives of having one huge arena or having multiple arenas with no caps, or any of the other alternatives suggested.
I'm sure that after you spend a few days reading all the previous discussions and really understand the problem, and the problems all the alternatives create, and THEN come up with a good idea to make things better, HTC staff would love to hear from you. Until then, do what the rest of us do and just deal with it. ;)
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We fly together in BLUE, all day, everyday. If the map is better in Orange, we'll try and migrate over.... As a squad.
Lynchmob used to fly BLUE too....... But I guess they got tired of all the deaths they encountered after switching sides. :D
:salute
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Stop being such a tool. He has legitimate points and clearly the current system is less than ideal for anyone trying work in a squad.
Quit being such a baby. :lol
As others have suggested, try using the search feature. This topic has been discussed ad nauseum. The summary is while the current arena cap system is far from perfect, its better than the alternatives of having one huge arena or having multiple arenas with no caps, or any of the other alternatives suggested.
I'm sure that after you spend a few days reading all the previous discussions and really understand the problem, and the problems all the alternatives create, and THEN come up with a good idea to make things better, HTC staff would love to hear from you. Until then, do what the rest of us do and just deal with it. ;)
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Ah yes, the usual "HTC are always right, got to hell" answer.
It is massively frustrating. Particularly if you live in GMT +13 and you have to be super organised to attend a squad night and you spend 4 hours watching an arena that is 1 or 2 over the arena cap and never get to the point where you can join. I've heard all the rationales behind arena caps over and over and they still make no sense, nor does the "Your whole squad should move to the other arena!" standard answer.
I like to fly with my squad. Given that they haven't thrown me out yet I'm presumably still welcome. I don't fly all that often and when I do I prefer to hook up with squaddies, not fly in another arena for a different country which effectively precludes me hooking up with them the next day.
Yes, I am aware that my opinion is invalid and that my individual value as a customer is negligible in the scheme of things, but, it's still incredibly frustrating to be forced out of spending time with guys who've become friends over the years because of an arbitrary game policy that may or may not be governed by game play or technical game issues.
If you'd quit halucinating and read what is actually written it might help.
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Read a Book
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Hey guys i have a quick question that involves the arena caps. Why does it seem that the arenas (LW) usually orange is always full? Why do they put such a low cap on the arena, but when you irritate the system (multiple times trying to enter a full arena) it finally lets you in? Why not just make the cap like 350 or 400 all the time? Was trying to get into orange last night because all of my friends/squaddies where in there but it wouldn't let me in. I got extremely frustrated and ended up in the blue.
And what would you do when you arrive with a cap of 400 and the arena is full?
HiTech
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I would also like to add that if you only have friends in Orange and only on one side..... your missing out on a lot of the game. There are a lot of good folks spread around here.
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And what would you do when you arrive with a cap of 400 and the arena is full?
HiTech
When ever this question about caps comes up thats the question that the crybabies never seem to answer..... "If the caps are hard set to 400 what do you do if your number 401 logging in?"
My guess is come and cry on the boards some more :neener:
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Was trying to get into orange last night because all of my friends/squaddies where in there but it wouldn't let me in. I got extremely frustrated and ended up in the blue.
They should switch into blue so you can fly together. That's only common courtesy.
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The caps are frustrating.. But they are also necessary.. Read up on it.. I once came on here gripping about it too, only to get smacked around for it.. lol
On the lighter side, if you really want to get into an arena I can only remember one or two occasions that I had to wait more than 15 minutes to get in..
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well to those that gave some kind of useful info thanks and to those who just like to get on here and look for confrontation get a life. never knew someone could be given such a hard time when asked a simple (or at least i thought it was simple) question. and as far as only being on one side that isnt the case, ive been to all three meccas and found friends on each but when you are in a squad you usually try to fly with them
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My guess is come and cry on the boards some more :neener:
Because unhappy customers are good for business?
HT, perhaps giving those who wish to enter a capped arena the option to join a waiting list would be less painful than entering then leaving other arenas to reset the count and try again. It can seem like a retarded version of whack a mole jumping around until you can get in.
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when you are in a squad you usually try to fly with them
Obviously, so they should switch to blue.
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Because unhappy customers are good for business?
HT, perhaps giving those who wish to enter a capped arena the option to join a waiting list would be less painful than entering then leaving other arenas to reset the count and try again. It can seem like a retarded version of whack a mole jumping around until you can get in.
It was tried before and people still complained. I put THIS (http://webpages.charter.net/maddogjoe/cartoon_balance.htm) together to help :D
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People always complain. Generally speaking, it's best when they complain the least and your core goals are intact.
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People always complain. Generally speaking, it's best when they complain the least and your core goals are intact.
Like it is now....
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hence this thread?
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And what would you do when you arrive with a cap of 400 and the arena is full?
I keep backing out and retrying till I get in....... never takes more than a few mins.
Cav
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Its been my experience that I usually only have to wait about 5 minutes or so to get in an arena that is capped.
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And what would you do when you arrive with a cap of 400 and the arena is full?
HiTech
The exact same thing I do now when the arena containing squaddies is full. Log.
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Go into the other arena..boost it's number and back out and try again. Usually you dont have to wait long for it to allow you in.
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hence this thread?
Hmm this thread... 2 complaints out of how many members??
Not much complaint.
Why don't you post how you would suggest they set it up. The current setup was developed over years to the point it is now. Maybe you have a better idea. Just throwing rocks at it won't help unless you have a better setup.
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When ever this question about caps comes up thats the question that the crybabies never seem to answer..... "If the caps are hard set to 400 what do you do if your number 401 logging in?"
My guess is come and cry on the boards some more :neener:
With all due respect Fugi. The OP is my squaddie and we were in discussion on this topic the other night. We can understand why they have a cap. The question here is why is it one second the arena is set at 240/250 then a min later its 235/100. Why not set the arena at a permanent 300,400 or whatever.
Trying to get squaddies together at certain times during the night if you do manage a spot in LWorange lately has been tough. I/we have no issues switching sides/arenas if we wanna fly together or see where the fights at. If we happen to be #401 at a capped 400 arena, I still would be ok with that. Just frustrating when your having fun in a certain area, disco then try to relog only to find out you cant get in.
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Why not set the arena at a permanent 300,400 or whatever.
Because if you set the caps static all the time instead of dynamic, you will end up with numbers like
LWO 400/400
LWB 40/400
which is much worse.
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Because if you set the caps static all the time instead of dynamic, you will end up with numbers like
LWO 400/400
LWB 40/400
which is much worse.
Understood Lusche. but whats the sense in making the cap back to where its able to enter if you just stand there and try for a few times? It can go from my example above 240/250, a minute later go to 235/100, but if your really stubborn, give it a few and that cap will end up being 260/450. If the goal is to keep people from hording one arena and preventing crickets chirping in the other, than why not have each arena at a reasonable say 250 or whatever?
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Understood Lusche. but whats the sense in making the cap back to where its able to enter if you just stand there and try for a few times? It can go from my example above 240/250, a minute later go to 235/100, but if your really stubborn, give it a few and that cap will end up being 260/450. If the goal is to keep people from hording one arena and preventing crickets chirping in the other, than why not have each arena at a reasonable say 250 or whatever?
You and your squaddie can find the answer in the many many many times this has been covered. Search.
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Just come back to BLUE Tral............. Sure you'll die more but it's oh so much fun!
"blah blah blah"
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shuffler you quite the antagonist so i think i found a song that suits you :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTWLNjxOdNc
and before you start with your macho BS :aok I LOVE HATERS THEY MAKE ME FAMOUS
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:lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTWLNjxOdNc
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shuffler you quite the antagonist so i think i found a song that suits you :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTWLNjxOdNc
and before you start with your macho BS :aok I LOVE HATERS THEY MAKE ME FAMOUS
Famous?? I only saw your post so I gave you a suggestion. Other than that I have never heard of you. If your unable to search you might try the help pages. They should get you to square 1 at least.