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Title: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: VonMessa on January 21, 2010, 02:35:58 PM
and we turned it into  :rock  (you guys are some sick f's)   :D

I would hope Spiderman himself would be proud to rock this bad boy  :x

Yes, it's that time of year again and Giovanni decided to pick something a bit more "normal"  

(last year's car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrdDuD9611Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrdDuD9611Q)  )

Time trials tonight, race on Saturday  :rock  

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Spidey%20Pinewood%202010/Spidey1.jpg)

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Spidey%20Pinewood%202010/Spidey2.jpg)

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Spidey%20Pinewood%202010/Spidey3-1.jpg)

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Spidey%20Pinewood%202010/Spidey4-1.jpg)

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Spidey%20Pinewood%202010/Spidey5-1.jpg)

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Spidey%20Pinewood%202010/Spidey6-1.jpg)
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: Selino631 on January 21, 2010, 02:53:55 PM
good luck with the Pinewood Derby! I rmember when i used to do those lol
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: 2ADoc on January 21, 2010, 03:06:13 PM
Good luck in the derby.  I always had a blast, and came in in the top 3 till they weighed the cars.  If you drill a hole in the bottom of it you can melt lead fishing weights and pour them into the hole.  File and sand them down and Repaint the spot.  The car is beautiful though, good luck.
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: VonMessa on January 21, 2010, 03:08:56 PM
Tungsten  (1.7 times as dense as lead)  :D

As the car sits...      4.975 oz. 

Center mass is 1.375" in front of rear axle         :bolt:
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: Dragon on January 21, 2010, 03:27:25 PM
Car looks sweet, hope it runs well.




Does someone have a label maker?
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: bustr on January 21, 2010, 05:35:18 PM
 Denis Didrot: "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last preist."

But there is argument that it is attributed to:

 Jean Meslier: "I would like — and this would be the last and most ardent of my wishes — I would like the last of the kings to be strangled by the guts of the last priest".

I have looked extensively for Thomas Jefferson requoting Denis Didrot but, Jefferson in all of his quotes has never reduced himslef to imagery of the french pre-revolutionairy style combining the extreams of vulgarity and violence wraped in aitheism.
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: Penguin on January 21, 2010, 06:01:31 PM
Uh-oh, this could get ugly *Sees Skuzzy loading Ban Blaster*
 :bolt:

-Penguin
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: mbailey on January 21, 2010, 06:09:08 PM
Very cool VM, good luck with the Derby. My son was first in his den, and 5th overall in the pack last year.

I came in first as a kid, dad drilled out an area in the bottom, and added a couple of semi-wadcutters. That little thing flew like a bullet  :D

<S>

Mbailey
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: JonDoe999 on January 21, 2010, 06:13:42 PM
The best I got was 3rd place and that was with a Dragster. :lol
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: boxboy28 on January 21, 2010, 06:30:37 PM
i had a pretty good one as a kid, made it to regionals.     Do the melted lead but kepp it at max wieght.    we used graphite on the wheels... im sure theres better lubes out there now!
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: Masherbrum on January 21, 2010, 06:42:09 PM
Hehe.   I still have my Pinewood Derby that was Runner-Up in the State of Mich.   My pop, Grandpa and I spent a weekend building it.   I used graphite and it was Max. Weight, which is what you want.   We had to have the wood drilled as well.   I'll post up a picture.
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: Penguin on January 21, 2010, 06:56:34 PM
You guys know more than I do about this, but why make it look like a car at all?  Wouldn't a bullet shape would fly better?

-Penguin
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: Curlew on January 21, 2010, 10:03:07 PM
Looks like that wood is a wiinner  :neener:
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: Bodhi on January 21, 2010, 10:22:52 PM
Make a plug in the nose, then load the bugger with some lead weight.  <Evil Grim>
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: VonMessa on January 21, 2010, 10:52:55 PM
Make a plug in the nose, then load the bugger with some lead weight.  <Evil Grim>

Actually Tungsten weight  :D

And the weight goes in the back.  Balance point of car is  ~1" in front of rear axle.  The ramp transitions into a flat dor the last 6'. 

Remember Sir Issac's first law ...... (law of inertia)

An object at rest will remain at rest unless acted on by an unbalanced force. An object in motion continues in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force. 

In this situation, the weight in the front would be the unbalanced force fighting the transition from descent angle to  horizontal (flat) trajectory.  If it's more to the back, it gives a "push" at the transition.

Science.....  it works, biatches  :D

3.875 seconds     :aok

 :bolt:

 
 
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: kamori on January 21, 2010, 10:56:59 PM
Balance it so it can ride on 3 wheels 2 rear 1 front camber the front and seat the tires to ride on their inside edge of both. Make it track straight. drill a hole underneath and when it comes to weigh in time drop some lead shot in the hole till u get exact weight. dab a little ZAP(superglue for building R/C airplanes) spray 1 shot of excelerator(Kicker) for Zap to cure. Presto you have exact weight at weigh in time on their scale at their calibration.

FYI My sons took 4th and 5th in San Diego county finals. They beat 54 other cars to get there. The final race finished with less than 1 car length separating all 7 cars.

Great time
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: trax1 on January 21, 2010, 10:59:19 PM
Sweet car man, I hope your son places well. :aok
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: VonMessa on January 21, 2010, 11:04:03 PM
Denis Didrot: "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last preist."

But there is argument that it is attributed to:

 Jean Meslier: "I would like — and this would be the last and most ardent of my wishes — I would like the last of the kings to be strangled by the guts of the last priest".

I have looked extensively for Thomas Jefferson requoting Denis Didrot but, Jefferson in all of his quotes has never reduced himslef to imagery of the french pre-revolutionairy style combining the extreams of vulgarity and violence wraped in aitheism.

I hope the accuracy of your research eclipses that of your spelling because the simplicity of the forum spell-check button (and the on-the-fly spell-check of most browsers) has eluded you quite successfully.

It has, in fact, passed by you at warp speed.

In any case, thanks for pissing on a thread that I started about the fun and bonding experience that I had with my son this week.    :aok

Carry on.
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: Masherbrum on January 21, 2010, 11:14:31 PM
I hope the accuracy of your research eclipses that of your spelling because the simplicity of the forum spell-check button (and the on-the-fly spell-check of most browsers) has eluded you quite successfully.

It has, in fact, passed by you at warp speed.

In any case, thanks for pissing on a thread that I started about the fun and bonding experience that I had with my son this week.    :aok

Carry on.

Pwned
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: trax1 on January 21, 2010, 11:17:32 PM
Denis Didrot: "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last preist."

But there is argument that it is attributed to:

 Jean Meslier: "I would like — and this would be the last and most ardent of my wishes — I would like the last of the kings to be strangled by the guts of the last priest".

I have looked extensively for Thomas Jefferson requoting Denis Didrot but, Jefferson in all of his quotes has never reduced himslef to imagery of the french pre-revolutionairy style combining the extreams of vulgarity and violence wraped in aitheism.
Yeah wow, the spelling is horrendous, my quote box is just full of red underlined words right now, spell check is your friend :aok. 

Also what the hell does any of that have to do with anything in this thread, I mean did I miss something, did you go to post a reply and have a stroke and just started typing nonsense?
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: MORAY37 on January 21, 2010, 11:36:14 PM
Actually Tungsten weight  :D

And the weight goes in the back.  Balance point of car is  ~1" in front of rear axle.  The ramp transitions into a flat dor the last 6'. 

Remember Sir Issac's first law ...... (law of inertia)

An object at rest will remain at rest unless acted on by an unbalanced force. An object in motion continues in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force. 

In this situation, the weight in the front would be the unbalanced force fighting the transition from descent angle to  horizontal (flat) trajectory.  If it's more to the back, it gives a "push" at the transition.

Science.....  it works, biatches  :D

3.875 seconds     :aok

 :bolt:

 
 

All things your kid thought up, right?

 :headscratch: :lol :rolleyes:
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: VonMessa on January 21, 2010, 11:45:40 PM
All things your kid thought up, right?

 :headscratch: :lol :rolleyes:

All things I get to teach him.      :aok

Better than him walking around saying things like  "Water?  Like.... from the toilet?"
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: Masherbrum on January 21, 2010, 11:46:41 PM
All things I get to teach him.      :aok

Better than him walking around saying things like  "Water?  Like.... from the toilet?"

 :rofl :rofl :rofl  You gotta come to Dayton bro.   Seriously, you have to.   First beer's on me.
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: VonMessa on January 21, 2010, 11:49:24 PM
:rofl :rofl :rofl  You gotta come to Dayton bro.   Seriously, you have to.   First beer's on me.

If I come to Dayton, I'll brew and bring gallons of it (yet more skills my children have learned ... biochemistry and zymurgy)  :aok
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: Masherbrum on January 21, 2010, 11:58:43 PM
If I come to Dayton, I'll brew and bring gallons of it (yet more skills my children have learned ... biochemistry and zymurgy)  :aok

July 17th and 18th.   I'll be there from the 16th to the 20th.    :rock
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: rpm on January 22, 2010, 01:44:10 AM
Strap a couple bottle rockets on it! :rock
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: MORAY37 on January 22, 2010, 01:52:15 AM
All things I get to teach him.      :aok

Better than him walking around saying things like  "Water?  Like.... from the toilet?"


I remember the Pinewood Derby in Scouts.  It was pretty hilarious in a sad way.

10 kids that worked on their own cars, from top to bottom.  Sanded.  Painted.  Balanced.  Loved.

Trumped by three kids who had Daddy "help" build their cars.  1st, 2nd, 3rd.

Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: VonMessa on January 22, 2010, 05:50:48 AM
He worked plenty, last year.

http://www.youtube.com/user/tymekeepyr#p/a/u/1/ZrdDuD9611Q (http://www.youtube.com/user/tymekeepyr#p/a/u/1/ZrdDuD9611Q)

I'll post another after this year  :)
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: Dragon on January 22, 2010, 08:35:38 AM
If I come to Dayton, I'll brew and bring gallons of it (yet more skills my children have learned ... biochemistry and zymurgy)  :aok

That would be awesome.  If I had more room in my car, I'd be half tempted to brew up another batch and share it.  I'll bring a glass to sample yours.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: sntslilhlpr6601 on January 22, 2010, 01:46:22 PM
He worked plenty, last year.

http://www.youtube.com/user/tymekeepyr#p/a/u/1/ZrdDuD9611Q (http://www.youtube.com/user/tymekeepyr#p/a/u/1/ZrdDuD9611Q)

I'll post another after this year  :)

Wow.  :O

Great job on that jeep!
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: texasmom on January 23, 2010, 01:29:10 AM
Nice job kiddo!
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: nirvana on January 23, 2010, 03:47:01 AM
I remember those days, good bonding time with dad.  Good luck!
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: uptown on January 23, 2010, 09:44:44 AM
Awesome racer! If you see a "Batman" in the race, put him in the wall fast! He cheats! :lol
On a serious note: That a great way to bond with your kid. And he's learning things that will stay with him for life. Good dad skills ya got Von!  :aok
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: 007Rusty on January 29, 2010, 09:10:28 PM
my son's race is this sat. He's fired up..  :D
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: Penguin on January 30, 2010, 05:47:15 PM
Don't let the fire get on the wood!
 :bolt:
 :banana:

-Penguin
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: jd on January 31, 2010, 08:31:16 AM
You cant get any lift with that design. :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :headscratch: :rofl :rofl :rofl
WTG, good luck

Chaos
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: Curval on January 31, 2010, 08:39:53 AM
How'd he do?
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: Dadsguns on January 31, 2010, 08:44:33 AM
Did you put on a few coats of polyurethane and sand it smooth?  Its hard to tell in the picture but it looks like you could get some more aerodynamic qualities out of it if you do over the paint.

Looks great and hope you have fun with your Son.  Good times.   :rock
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: VonMessa on February 02, 2010, 07:16:03 AM
Did you put on a few coats of polyurethane and sand it smooth?  Its hard to tell in the picture but it looks like you could get some more aerodynamic qualities out of it if you do over the paint.

Looks great and hope you have fun with your Son.  Good times.   :rock

Basecoat/clearcoat.  About 5 coats of clear.  We were going to compound and wax it, but there wasn't enough time for the lacquer to harden properly (before the race)

Also had to drill out the bottom to make weight (rather drill out than add, as the car is already balanced) so there is a band-aid on the bottom  :)

Got 1st in his den, 2nd overall in the pack.

Districts are in March.

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Spidey%20Pinewood%202010/Gio1.jpg)
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: TheBug on February 02, 2010, 09:49:54 AM
Nice job guys!  Cool looking car.   :aok
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: 2ADoc on February 02, 2010, 06:03:21 PM
WTG on the win.  Did the car get scratched up in the race?
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: VonMessa on February 03, 2010, 12:20:08 AM
Not too much
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: mensa180 on February 03, 2010, 12:55:31 AM
Can it take off on a treadmill?
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: 2ADoc on February 03, 2010, 06:28:50 PM
On the next run put a little graphite powder on the axles, and be sure to de bur the wheels.
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: VonMessa on February 03, 2010, 10:21:58 PM
On the next run put a little graphite powder on the axles, and be sure to de bur the wheels.

Can only lube once.  Right before the race starts, and that's it.....

Axles, and wheels were trued.

He only missed 1st place by .007 seconds

1st place winner was a Hershey bar   :noid
Title: Re: My son got wood, again.....
Post by: stealth on February 03, 2010, 10:43:29 PM
I remember my pinewood derby one city wide 2nd place my 2nd year when i was 8years old lost almost dead last the 1st and 3rd one lol.