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Special Events Forums => King of the Hill => Topic started by: Skuzzy on January 27, 2010, 01:23:09 PM
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As it stands now there is not much difference between a TOC invitation for a winner opposed to a wabbit. We were thinking of making the wabbit invitations slightly harder to earn and want KOTHers opinions on the subject.
Please select a choice from the following poll:
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The only problem with this is, but I don't think it made much of a diffrence this year, is the fact that it will be a much smaller crowed than what we normally see. I personally don't care as to the size of it because the cream will rise to the top, and you will get some amazing fights in TOC, which really, it should be. It's just the opion, would you rather have a longer TOC, or make it a fast showful TOC.
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I voted for no change because of this years TOC, whilst the list looked tough not enough players showed up.
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Both Bosco and Bruv make great points.
This was a completely pointless poll in my honest opinion.
If a person can achieve rabbit status in a KoTH event once, then I'm pretty sure they will have the ability to do it more than once. It would be a complete waste of the players time in that respect.
If wrabbits were not allowed in ToC, then this years ToC would have been a battle between myself and Bruv as none of the other KoTH winners showed up. How exciting!?!
You need to give players a reason to want to attend ToC because this years turnout was pathetic. A whole years free subscription is a good place to start.
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Thanks for the Poll.......... it is true being a wabbit & winning a KOTH holds the same purpose........ is like a slap to the face of the person who wins the KOTH to see many many many wabbits get in with only have earned one wabbit status.......
I am ashamed to even of had an invitation because I earned a wabbit status ........
I did not deserve an invite truth be told...not by just winning a wabbit status one time.......
if earning a wabbit status 1 time gets you in the KOTH TOC, then so be it..... but to me it would be more justifyed if to earn a TOC invite without having won a KOTH event from the 24 KOTH events held through out the year....one would have to earn 3 wabbit status's to qualify........
I also propose to go even further and offer the Top 10 Pilots in the Total Kills bracket that have earned at least (1) Round if not (1) Wabbit Status ( 2 Rounds Won ) also earn an invite....... who other wise would not make it any other way.......
One can not go by the Turnout of this past KOTH TOC attendance....... The whole world had a bad year / year and a half....... things are looking better all the time....... if you was to adverage the turnout over every KOTH TOC from Aces High's past TOC events........ you would find this last TOC was a fluke........ nothing more nothing less.......
earning an Invite to the TOC should be special........ everyone person who participates in KOTH should fly with the atitude to be the only one left standing, for every single KOTH...and should keep coming back to keep the TOC list as short as possible anyways........ if you going to make it then you should earn it...... and not by just (1) Wabbit status, which is the same thing the guy who one the KOTH event acquired "An Invitation To the KOTH TOC"
bring some meaning to this event......... be King Of The Hill, and strive to REMAIN King Of The Hill!!!!
I vote (3) Wabbit Status Earned for TOC invite :aok
If wrabbits were not allowed in ToC, then this years ToC would have been a battle between myself and Bruv as none of the other KoTH winners showed up.
I disagree with this, the wabbits that showed some had earned multiple wabbit status.........
Also, Me calling this years TOC a fluke, is not to take anything away from the TOC Champ, who fought hard and earned his title rightfully so..........the fluke part is only pointed toward the Attendance which yes, was a freak fluke for this event.....
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I think it should take 3 wabbit wins to get to the TOC. Most people that showed up to the TOC had more than 1 wabbit win.
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KoTH winner gets 1 month free sub and is invited to ToC. Wrabbit is invited.
GG.
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I think it should take 3 wabbit wins to get to the TOC. Most people that showed up to the TOC had more than 1 wabbit win.
You do realise that you just proved my point which was stated in my first post, right?
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A full year subscription to Aces High will never happen. The amount I receive as reimbursement for the plaque currently does not even cover the plaque and shipping to the winner.
I agree with TC in principal and think wabbits should have to do more to earn an invitation. My ideal number was three but I didn't want to thin the crowd too much and voted for two. Of course any change would most likely eliminate me from earning an invitation and secure my future as TOC host.
I think the biggest factor in attendance is the date and time. Any day we set for the TOC will not be good for a number of people and therefore limit attendance.
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While I understand the side of the argument where you want TOC to have more pilots, I think quality is more important. I'm sure there were a couple pilots statistically speaking that were able to get into TOC this year by just blind luck in a koth event. Picking and flying timid and all the cards falling into place to get them wabbit status. This player will not have a prayer in TOC anyways and will have to fly even more timid to stay alive. Not good for the event.
One problem I could see stemming from it though is if an ace flew every single KOTH and demolished the competition where no one was ever able to achieve KOTH status. It would be that much more difficult to put up two wins in this type of competition, two/three times. TJ was doing this last season (albeit not on purpose, just having fun) but had he continued his massacre through the full year AND a new wabbit rule was in effect, I don't think many pilots would make it into TOC.
All that being said, I think TOC is exactly what it is defined as, Tournament of Champions, and invitations should be held for those deserving. If that's 10 guys, that's fine. Better fights, less ganging, lets see who's best. I say 2 wabbits = TOC invite.
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If a person can achieve rabbit status in a KoTH event once, then I'm pretty sure they will have the ability to do it more than once.
I would disagree with this. Think of a statistical curve with % chance of winning a round versus skill ability. There are always going to be some pilots every year that sneak into TOC because they were, with lack of better word, lucky. For lightning to strike twice though, that's at least twice as statistically unlikely and will weed out a couple pilots who probably don't have any business being in TOC in the first place if skill is any indication on who should be flying there.
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Hey guys,
Winning a round or 2 shouldnt get u a invite to ToC. You should have to win KoTH to be invited. But
If you want to get more involved to fight in ToC, Then have KoTH winners get auto invite, and round
winners get invited to ToC last chance fights. Could have a week or 2 of Wabbit fights. Winners of the
Wabbit fights get a invite TOC. Give a meaning to wabbit titles but not same status as KoTH winners.
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Hey guys,
Winning a round or 2 shouldnt get u a invite to ToC. You should have to win KoTH to be invited. But
If you want to get more involved to fight in ToC, Then have KoTH winners get auto invite, and round
winners get invited to ToC last chance fights. Could have a week or 2 of Wabbit fights. Winners of the
Wabbit fights get a invite TOC. Give a meaning to wabbit titles but not same status as KoTH winners.
I agree with this completely....... although I am sure it would never happen, whels :(
your example / thoughts upholds the TRUE MEANING of "King of the Hill" ........ maybe for the start of the 2011 KOTH year this could be looked at......
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you all have very good views of it but I'm not going to get into this :D Voted for the First
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Maybe a wabbit round before the TOC where the last 4 or 5, left standing, get to move on to the TOC? Just a thought.
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I would disagree with this. Think of a statistical curve with % chance of winning a round versus skill ability. There are always going to be some pilots every year that sneak into TOC because they were, with lack of better word, lucky. For lightning to strike twice though, that's at least twice as statistically unlikely and will weed out a couple pilots who probably don't have any business being in TOC in the first place if skill is any indication on who should be flying there.
Well if we are going to run with this pattern of thought. How about we only allow people who win a KoTH to fly in ToC? Because lets face it, if a player can't win a KoTH event at least once, what chance does said player have of winning the ToC?
Infact, Skuzzy, can you please put the above option up on the poll because it's got my vote.
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Hoers in KOTH shouldnt get a TOC invite.......aka Limbo
my 2 cents :aok
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whels and Skuzzy do present some good ideas which AKDogg and I may cogitate about.
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Maybe a wabbit round before the TOC where the last 4 or 5, left standing, get to move on to the TOC? Just a thought.
I like it. its kinda like a wildcard round in the playoffs. The winner and wabbits of this round should move on to the TOC.
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Add this to the poll:
A wabbit gets the invitaion IF he get's the highest kills during the event.
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I appreciate Skuzzy offering his view, I know he always liked coming to the KOTH events when he was able to sneak away (knowing he really did not have the time to participate :-/ )
I find Skuzzy's suggestion and the way sunsfan quoted and offered his view of it to be a very interesting and valid Idea to look at :aok
edit: People, this is a POLL thread and you only need to Vote ( & lobby ) for your particular Choice offered......please let's all not let this thread get out of hand or turn into a flame war.......... the KOTH CM's needs your opinion on the following Topic, Skuzzy posted:
As it stands now there is not much difference between a TOC invitation for a winner opposed to a wabbit. We were thinking of making the wabbit invitations slightly harder to earn and want KOTHers opinions on the subject.
Please select a choice from the following poll:
leave any "negative thought" posts for another time, please I ask....... :salute
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Because lets face it, if a player can't win a KoTH event at least once, what chance does said player have of winning the ToC?
hmmm...well...
2005 - won ToC getting in with 1 wabbit, 0 wins
2006 - 4 wabbits, didn't win
2007 - 1 win and 7 wabbits, didn't win
How does that square up with your line of thinking?
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Murdr,
Was your sarcasm detector on?
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After this years turnout, if I was HTC, I would be more worried about getting KoTH winners to show up then worry about the small majority who got fluky and made it into ToC.
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After this years turnout, if I was HTC, I would be more worried about getting KoTH winners to show up then worry about the small majority who got fluky and made it into ToC.
If a KOTH winner didn't show up for the TOC, it was because they had something going on in RL, plain and simple. Just a down year attendance wise. One down year has no relevance or bearing on the topic at hand imo.
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Or people who forget the dates... Bosco. :rofl
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Kazaa check your pms :aok
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Actually TC, I posted this for fuzeman. Polls cannot be started in any of the public forums, but anyone can vote in them.
Yes, I like KOTH. It is my favorite event. I wish I had time to participate in it more often.
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Actually TC, I posted this for fuzeman. Polls cannot be started in any of the public forums, but anyone can vote in them.
Yes, I like KOTH. It is my favorite event. I wish I had time to participate in it more often.
Yes Sir, I am aware of that....... I was just thanking the KoTH CM's ( HTC )for having the Poll, Sir........
I was thanking you, for your views & suggestions, because I know that you use to come along with another HTC employee and participate in KOTH with us.....
no worries......
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Was your sarcasm detector on?
<tap tap> Batteries must be dead.
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If a KOTH winner didn't show up for the TOC, it was because they had something going on in RL, plain and simple. Just a down year attendance wise. One down year has no relevance or bearing on the topic at hand imo.
I didn't show because I quit the game!.. but I linger because I have a sneaking feeling that I may return one day. It depends how RL goes! AH has always been escapism for me.
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Or people who forget the dates... Bosco. :rofl
That's not funny! :P
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How many pilots did we have actually show up and fly the last TOC?
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How many pilots did we have actually show up and fly the last TOC?
Thirteen give or take 1, low from what I remember from earlier ones. When I think about how many will attend before hand I guesstimate it to be around 50% of the invitees. We had 26 invitees so it looks as though 50% was spot on.
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Thirteen give or take 1, low from what I remember from earlier ones. When I think about how many will attend before hand I guesstimate it to be around 50% of the invitees. We had 26 invitees so it looks as though 50% was spot on.
So my question would be why are we wanting to limit it and have fewer player in TOC?
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The idea was not to limit the number of people in the TOC. There was basically no difference between being a wabbit and winning a KOTH except you got your name in lights for the victory. The idea was to make a slightly larger difference between winner and wabbit status.
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If it were to change its not like the top sticks wont be able to get an invite anyway :aok :bolt:
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If it were to change its not like the top sticks wont be able to get an invite anyway :aok :bolt:
My "concern" is for that one player who managed to become a wabbit, which is no small feat, might get shut out of the TOC if the rules are changed.
I do see your point fuzeman, and making it so you have to have been a wabbit, say twice, makes sense on a few diff. levels.
It is an excellent question and one worth thinking through.
(I voted for "no change" btw)
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My "concern" is for that one player who managed to become a wabbit, which is no small feat, might get shut out of the TOC if the rules are changed.
I do see your point fuzeman, and making it so you have to have been a wabbit, say twice, makes sense on a few diff. levels.
It is an excellent question and one worth thinking through.
(I voted for "no change" btw)
I would think, since the poll was started after the fact that January KOTH events had already been played..that those in the (2) January Koth events who actually did qualify by way of being a wabbit....would be granted their TOC invite under a grand father clause....... same way other authoritys/groups/licensing agencys work when they grandfather in or make someone retroactively qualifyed....
that is if the poll ends before the next February Koth Events are played and the results are tallied up..... if that is how this plays out....... there is no certianty that this poll will change anything as it stands...... just as there is no certianty that things will remain as they always have been......
I guess one could assume that both the 2 wabbit votes & 3 wabbit votes would be totalled but to what extent is chosen would be left up to the KOTH CM's themselves?
there was never a mention of how long the poll would run, or what if any determination would come from it.......
if not 3 wabbits earned....I seriously think any future wabbits should at least require 2 wabbits earned status for the mere thought of making it different and more demanding if one is to only get in by earning a wabbit status' and not actually winning one of the 24 KOTH events.....
my thoughts in any case.....
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I feel 3 wabbit wins is a bit much and I also feel 1 wabbit win is to easy. I am leaning towards the 2 time wabbit since alot have voted for both 1 wabbit and 3 wabbit wins. Yes TC, those who have got there TOC invite by being a 1 time wabbit will be grandfathered in if we Fuzeman and I decide to do this.
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Two questions:
First, when is the poll going to end?
Second, how are you going to decide (might I ask), are you going to go with the votes or just what seems to be a good comprimise. For me, as long as KOTH continues to go on, then I don't care how it goes lol.
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Two questions:
First, when is the poll going to end?
Second, how are you going to decide (might I ask), are you going to go with the votes or just what seems to be a good comprimise. For me, as long as KOTH continues to go on, then I don't care how it goes lol.
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Source: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,279433.0.html
2008 TOC winner: Bruv119
2009 Winners: AKDogg, BatfinkV, Bosco[2], DrBone, Grizz, Helbent, Kazaa[2], Krupnski, Lazer, RumbleB, SunsFan[2], Tonyjoey[7], WMLute
2009 Wabbits: 100Chewi[3], 18Whiskey, AKDogg[3], B4Buster, BatfinkV, Bosco[2], Darth2, Grizz[4], Irish, Ironman, Kazaa, Krupnski[3], oSCOTCHo, Phanta, slimmer, SunsFan[3], TC, TonyJoey[2], WMLute
Koth break down for last year
2009 winners of a Koth event = 13 ( some won koth more than once...One won 7 times!!!)
2009 wabbits = 19 (this includes koth winners who were wabbits as well)
2009 wabbits who did not win an event = 10
2009 wabbits who did not win an event but were wabbits 1 time = 9
2009 wabbits who did not win an event but were wabbits 2 or more times = 1
2009 total Koth events = 22
Taking 2009 Koth stats as an example and using 2 wabbits wins a requirement to get an invite to TOC
We would have a total of ONE PLAYER who would have received and invite to the TOC based on a 2 or more wabbit wins.
The TOC then would have been made up of 13 KOTH winners and ONE player who did not win a KOTH but did get 2 wabbits or more.
So a total of 14 players in the TOC.
TonyJoey won 7 times so this skewed the numbers a bit. If he only won 2 times then that would mean either some of the KOTH winners would have possibly won more than 1 time or some who won 2 may have won a third.
Statistically, if you win a Koth event you were very likely to be a wabbit 2 times or more.
So this means that if you make the rule of having 2 wabbits or more and Not winning an event a requirement to get an invitation to TOC you statistically only get 1 or 2 players who get the invite without winning an event.
If the rule was applied to last years events then there would have been only 1 player to get in invite who did not win a koth.
As you can see there were 10 players who were wabbits once. The 2 or wabbit rule would have eliminated them from the TOC.
Statistically this means limiting the TOC to Koth event winners only.
So I think the question is do we only allow winners of a Koth event to the TOC. Its either all winners or 1 wabbit wins plus winners. That is the question.
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agent whilst you have some spare time I would be interested in seeing how many guys who won a KOTH event last year (or wabbit x2/3 status) didn't show up for the 2009 TOC.
You limit the qualification your not guaranteed of seeing these 'winners' actually show up.
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So I think the question is do we only allow winners of a Koth event to the TOC. Its either all winners or 1 wabbit wins plus winners. That is the question.
This is just one year of statistics though.
I wonder if winning just one round in an event should be worth anything long term? It would be a headache to keep track of but you'd think a pilot that won 1 round 6 times in a Koth year might be deserving? Food for thought.
Something like you have to earn xxx amount of points to be eligible for TOC.
Example:
10 points required to earn TOC invite.
KOTH victory = 10 points
Wabbit = 4 points
Single Win = 2 points
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you can not take just ONE years results and base a claim of what might happen........
if you going to try and figure out how many will actualy be present, then you should take an over all average of every KOTH / KOTH TOC ....
so your results are not as SKEWED......
heck if you throw out 2009 KOTH TOC and just used the one year where 26 or 27 players showed up for KOTH TOC, then how would that play out?
see what I am getting at?
just saying........
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I voted for #2 I like the idea of a wabbit playoff to get into the TOC just put all the wabbits on one field the one left flying goes to TOC. My 2 cents not like I'll ever get there but it is fun trying.
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Here are the previous years if someone wants to compare with more yrs.
http://ahevents.org/koth-related/previous-years-winners.html
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The results are in.
I looked at the KOTH from 2006 to 2009...thats 4 years of KOHT events.
I excluded players who were wabbits but won a koth becuase those players get an invite for winning so they dont count.
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2009 Koth
2+ wabbits = 1
1 wabbits = 9
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2008 Koth
2+ wabbits = 1
1 wabbits = 13
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2007 Koth
2+ wabbits = 5
1 wabbit = 16
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2006 Koth
2+ wabbits = 4
1 wabbit = 18
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Only 2 players in the last two years would qualify for TOC based on a 2+ wabbit rule. Only in 2009 did a player win 3 wabbits and not win a koth event. So in 2009 one player would have qualified if it was a 3 wabbit rule or 2 wabbit rule.
2006 and 2007 would have had 4 and 5 qualifying respectivly.
My original assumption is very close.
Which is:
Statistically if you win 2 wabbits you will win the event at some point during the year. Further the chances of a player winning 2 wabbits and not winning the event is very slim.
I present these finding to you. Interpret them as you will.
Here is the spread sheet i made if anyone is interested
http://dasmuppets.com/public/agent360/koth.stats.xls (http://dasmuppets.com/public/agent360/koth_stats.xls)
Buy the way...you guys should look at the spread sheet...the names will blow you away....look at how the wins took place...very interesting.
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10 points required to earn TOC invite.
KOTH victory = 10 points
Wabbit = 4 points
Single Win = 2 points
I like this idea. It has no bearing on me, per se -- because I won't win a round -- but this logic makes sense... If a guy can only attend a KOTH event for a limited time (enough to win one round) and does that consistently throughout the year to earn 10 points, they probably have the potential to win TOC or at least fare decently enough to warrant entry... After all - I'm assuming the more quality pilots in the event the better?
Anyway. +1
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Thanks Agent, that is alot better gauge to go by....... :salute
The results are in.
look at how the wins took place...very interesting.
I am scratching my head :headscratch: on this part........ is their a particular way I should be viewing it? I am viewing it in Exel2007, and only see Red or green colors and then just the totals.....???
guess I need to go to sleep.... its prob staring me right in the face :old:
anyhows thx again
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Example:
10 points required to earn TOC invite.
KOTH victory = 10 points
Wabbit = 4 points
Single Win = 2 points
Good idea but statistically its not going to happen. In order to win an invite without actually winning a koth event would require a player to be 2 wabbit winner plus win a singel round. In the last 4 years there has been only 4 players to be 3+ wabbit winner and not win the event at least once. in 2009 it was only 1 player.
In 4 years there have been only 11 players who had 2+ wabbits and did not win the event. Add the extra single win and you will cut that in half at least.
If you make a 2+ wabbit rule it will make the TOC comprise the KOTH winners plus mabey 2 or 3 players who did not win but made it by "wabbit rule"
Otherwise its the old rule of 1 wabbit gets you an invite and that brings in 10 to 15 players.
Decide who is desrving without winning to be in TOC...1 wabbits or 2 wabbits that is the question
....dont even think about 3 wabbits becasue that will never happen.
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Thanks Agent, that is alot better gauge to go by....... :salute
I am scratching my head :headscratch: on this part........ is their a particular way I should be viewing it? I am viewing it in Exel2007, and only see Red or green colors and then just the totals.....???
guess I need to go to sleep.... its prob staring me right in the face :old:
anyhows thx again
I have an old version...2003
I re made it so that all data is on one sheet. This should work.
http://dasmuppets.com/public/agent360/koth_stats_2.xls (http://dasmuppets.com/public/agent360/koth_stats_2.xls)
I just noticed that WMLute has won 13 Koth events over 4 years. Nearly twice as many as any other player.
ToneyJoey has won 8 events but he won 7 of those this year. He beats TC by only 1 win. TC didn't win a koth in 2009 so its WMLUTE, ToneyJoey and TC in that order for most Koth wins over 4 years.
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go me!
(heck, I quit flying 'em for the most part in 2008)
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...... I was just thinking of why even allow any players other than those who are monthly Koth event winners......
allowing wabbits along with KOTH event winners is the exact same..... so heck..... all anyone has to do is win (1) wabbit status.....or if they change the rules is still win either (2) or (3) wabbit status' to qualify...... then they don't really have to show up anymore the rest of the year.....
Heck, Bruv119 did not participate in hardly any if at all.....in any KOTH events in 2009, because he already had his spot secured ( which is nothing wrong with it, he is the 2008 KOTH TOC champ ) so he deserves or any current KOTH TOC champ deserves to defend their Title...... :aok
to me this still does not paint a pretty picture of what KOTH really stands for........ if you going to allow a non-King Of The Hill player in the "King of the Hill Tournament of Champions"..........I think it sends all players the wrong message of what KOTH is......
on a different note........ I really liked the (2) spreadsheets you did Agent360........ wish you could have included 2005 & 2004 years..... I think fuzeman has the records/data for those 2 years prob archived..... that would make them complete .........
I have seen guys like Bosco, TonyJoey, BearKats, and many others come along and go from being easy kills to outright hardass fighters that will give you a run for your money.... man how I wish I was just starting out in Aces High and of a young age say 20 or 22 years old and physically fit
to see how far I have dropped just look at my 2005 total kills thru march ( 6 koth events ) and compare it to 2008 or 2009 total kills thru march ( 6 koth events )..... that tells "me" how much I have slipped in my abilitys I once had......I missed about 1/2 the KOTH events in 2009 though, and have been participating injured since Sept of 09.......
so if ya going to allow both KOTH event winners & wabbits ( whether they are 1 time wabbits or multi-time wabbits ) then you seriously should change the name of the KOTH TOC to:
"KOTH Tournament of Monthly KOTH Champions & Monthly KOTH Wabbits" after all....that is what it actually is and has been this whole time........
The more I look at this poll and think about it, the more I am liking Skuzzy's idea of KOTH TOC include all KOTH event Winners through out the year and then those who qualify by earning a wabbit, participate in a "Koth Wabbits WildCard event" say maybe taking the top 5 or top 10 total kills acquired in this event and letting them in the KOTH TOC.....
oh btw.... AKDogg is tied with TonyJoey with 8 event titles in those 4 years........ so it is WMLute, AKDogg & Tony Joey, then lil ol me ;)
oh man.....sorry for the long rambling
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oh btw.... AKDogg is tied with TonyJoey with 8 event titles in those 4 years........ so it is WMLute, AKDogg & Tony Joey, then lil ol me ;)
LOL, was just gonna say that till I fully read ur post. Almost missed it. :lol :aok :salute
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I will ask Skuzzy to end the poll on Moanday. So it should be closed sometime this week. It seems I forgot for every open there has to be a close.
Thanks for all who participated and it seems AKDogg and I have a little cogitating to do. Many good points were brought up by various people.
FYI, previous KOTH results that are not on www.ahevents.org are listed in this forum. That would be my only record of them.
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The more I look at this poll and think about it, the more I am liking Skuzzy's idea of KOTH TOC include all KOTH event Winners through out the year and then those who qualify by earning a wabbit, participate in a "Koth Wabbits WildCard event" say maybe taking the top 5 or top 10 total kills acquired in this event and letting them in the KOTH TOC.....
That is pretty much what the stats tell me.
If you make 2+ wabbit rule you would have mabey 2 or 3 players who didnt win an event. Not really enough to have a contest.
But if you keep the 1 wabbit rule you would have 10 or more players for a "Wabbit KOTH event" to dermine the the wabbit winner. I really think that would be cool.
Stats show that some palyers were wabbits many times but never won. I think each year there are a few players who really stand out in wins but dont ever win the event.
So having a wabbit koth would allow those players to compete for the invitation to the TOC and elmimante the problem of winning a wabbit once and then not palying koth until the TOC.
To be in the TOC you either need to win an event or really make a hard attempt at winning. Winning 1 wabbit then not playing koth hardly at all shouldnt qualify a player to the TOC.
It is also not fair to the koth winners to compete against all the winners plus 10 other non winning players. Statistically the makes winning the TOC much more unlikly for the koth winners. If only winners plus the wabbit champ compete it will be closer to a real TOC.
I vote for 1 wabbit rule with a wabbit playoff event.
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I vote for 1 wabbit rule with a wabbit playoff event
I would get behind something like this.
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Many thanks to the players who participated and offered suggestions. It seems one of those selections that I didn't even consider while making up this poll is a better idea than any of the choices I had thought of.
We are going to have a wabbit playoff of some kind. Therefore, even though I think they should be included in the new system, January's wabbits will get reservations for the 2010 TOC. February 2010 and onward will fall under this new system.
Once the details are finalized we will announce the specifics.
Our general thoughts on this are to have it relatively short and easy to score. I'd like to have it the same day as the TOC with a possible start time 1 hour before the TOC. Having it on a completely different day just involves too much scheduling wise. Also as kills are not truly accurate they probably will not be included in the calculation of whether or not wabbits get into the TOC.
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I would vote for no wabits in the TOC. KOTH is actually better with less people. Limits the ganging of wabits and the late comers to a fight. Who ever wins the TOC will be because he fought and won.