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Title: Da
Post by: dedalos on January 27, 2010, 11:51:23 PM
So, DA squads are now linked to MA?
Title: Re: Da
Post by: phatzo on January 27, 2010, 11:53:31 PM
I hope not, I just invented a silly name in the DA one day, wouldn't want it to go anywhere else.
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Post by: Masherbrum on January 27, 2010, 11:55:02 PM
So, DA squads are now linked to MA?

Most are, it's fashionable and daft to land kills in the DA.   
Title: Re: Da
Post by: AWwrgwy on January 28, 2010, 12:45:24 AM
I'm in a different squad in the DA than in the MA.  Don't recall the name as it seems to change from time to time.

So, no.  They are not linked.


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Title: Re: Da
Post by: sunfan1121 on January 28, 2010, 01:00:39 AM
There only linked if the CO creates the squad in both arenas.
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Post by: Skuzzy on January 28, 2010, 07:02:20 AM
The Dueling arena is linked to the other arenas now.  As the use of the dueling arena is for dueling, it really did not need to have its own squad table.
Title: Re: Da
Post by: Redd on January 28, 2010, 07:38:51 AM
Oh well  "the Pond Scum" will have to go into retirement for now

Title: Re: Da
Post by: dedalos on January 28, 2010, 07:50:57 AM
The Dueling arena is linked to the other arenas now.  As the use of the dueling arena is for dueling, it really did not need to have its own squad table.

Ohh, It was making it easier for a bunch of guys to find each other and communicate.  Any chance of putting it back?

Title: Re: Da
Post by: Changeup on January 28, 2010, 07:58:41 AM
Ahhh, the Cyberbullies....hehehe :rofl

Pond Scum, Pickers, HOers, gangbangers....Its curious to see how judgemental folks can be about a game...it feels like some folks are getting some Freudian childhood revenge..."the cool kids" are in the MA, etc. etc etc.  People learn to fly and enjoy the game differently....who cares why because that isn't up to any of us.  It seems to me that any noise about where and why people fly is unecessary...let people enjoy the game how they enjoy the game...this game isn't that important and most of the opinions are unsolicited and small...

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Title: Re: Da
Post by: FLS on January 28, 2010, 08:22:41 AM
Being judgmental about a squad name?   :rofl
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Post by: BaldEagl on January 28, 2010, 08:51:13 AM
Thank goodness.  I couldn't see why squads existed in the DA anyway and think any and all squad affiliations should be checked at the door when you enter the DA.

What's the chance of taking the next steps with the DA and getting rid of the names in lights and the scores in there?
Title: Re: Da
Post by: pervert on January 28, 2010, 09:49:35 AM
The people that fly in furball lake are no different to the MA. This idea that because I fly MA I'm better is bull. I see the same things that would be considered 'lame' in the MA all the time the only reason you notice it more in furball lake is because its a smaller space and you only have one base to retreat to and because of this these 'lame' things will happen a lot more often.

Proportionaly I can see the roughly the same type of players at different skill levels as the MA.
Title: Re: Da
Post by: Qrsu on January 28, 2010, 09:53:24 AM
You get HOed, ganged and picked in both furball lake and MA just the same.  ;)
Title: Re: Da
Post by: Changeup on January 28, 2010, 09:55:05 AM
FLS,

No sir....judging one's skill, intent, and motivation based on what arena one chooses to fly in is boorish and small IMHO.  Squad affiliation had nothing to do with my post but I suspect you knew that already.  The people that fly in "squads" in the DA have no heartburn over this issue as most of them were in squads for comraderie and friendships.  In other cases they, me, choose to spend more time in there than the MA simply because I don't want to spend more time flying than fighting...the fight is always on your doorstep.  The doorstep, if you will, in most cases in the MA is taking off from a base that is capped and about the time you get to 1000 AGL, you get a backside full of 20 mike-mike's in your keester.   If you are smart, you leave from a different base to get there....long flight.

My point is everyone is entitled to their opinions and this place has no shortage of people exercising that right, but when folks begin to insert their air of superiority and classify people based on the arena they fly in is small.  Having your name in lights?   Who cares?  Why would anyone care about that feature of the game and moreover, why would anyone spend any braintime on trying to remove it or defend it?  To lesson someone's good experience in the game?  That's small....how does that affect anyone negatively?  Because the person that landed them brags or something?  Squelch um or fight um, lol...  

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Title: Re: Da
Post by: Skuzzy on January 28, 2010, 10:02:48 AM
There is nothing preventing anyone from forming a squad in the DA.  It will be the same squad in any of the main arenas as well.

No one is telling anyone how to play the game.  The DA has always been an optional arena, or an extension to the main arenas.

Oh the drama.  "MY WORLD HAS BEEN CHANGED!  ARRRRRGGHH!!!"  Get over it.  If this is all you have to worry about in life, how would you like to change places?  Sheesh.

Scores are still separate.  What also changed was the ability of players to come to the DA, cuss, swear, get privs revoked, go back to the MA change game ID's, and come back to the DA to repeat, ad infinitum.  When players start running new business away from the game, things will change.  Thank the community for it.

Oh yes, that also means if you lose your text/voice privs in the DA, you lose them in every arena.
Title: Re: Da
Post by: FLS on January 28, 2010, 10:08:20 AM
Thanks for the explanation Changeup, I didn't realize your use of "pond scum" was coincidental. It seemed like you were judging people for being judgmental.  :salute
Title: Re: Da
Post by: pervert on January 28, 2010, 10:15:21 AM
Oh yes, that also means if you lose your text/voice privs in the DA, you lose them in every arena.

Does that include the TA? if so can I be banned for sky writing offensive messages with smoke on??  :noid
Title: Re: Da
Post by: FLS on January 28, 2010, 10:20:52 AM
I curious what you think you can write before the smoke fades away.  It doesn't even last for one loop.:D
Title: Re: Da
Post by: dedalos on January 28, 2010, 10:55:24 AM
Jebus, I asked a simple question and explained why I was asking it.  :O
Title: Re: Da
Post by: Changeup on January 28, 2010, 11:03:31 AM
FLS:

LOL, my use of "Pond Scum" wasn't coincidental, it was intentional.  Belittling someone or a class of folks for what arena they fly in is pretty difficult to defend as appropriate behavior, lmao.  If you find that judgemental, ok...but defend it's appropriateness and I shall openly stand corrected sir.  Argumentum ad hominem is for skill-less lawyers...not against folks that are playing a game for fun and amusement.

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Title: Re: Da
Post by: FLS on January 28, 2010, 01:16:12 PM
Well it's not my squad so I don't know how they intended it. Perhaps they were poking fun at people who belittle others for their choices.  I really don't have enough information to say.  :devil
Title: Re: Da
Post by: Redd on January 28, 2010, 03:45:56 PM
Well it's not my squad so I don't know how they intended it. Perhaps they were poking fun at people who belittle others for their choices.  I really don't have enough information to say.  :devil


Or maybe they just thought it was a fun name and poking a bit of fun at people who take themselves and the game way too seriously.

ffs lighten up lol

The DA pond is a microcosm of the MA , same ho'ers, same cherrypickers, same gangtard squads,  but it probably has a higher percentage of people who just want to furball and fight. I find it a lot of fun for a quick fight , and it's helped me shake a couple of years of rust off - nearly.

Title: Re: Da
Post by: FLS on January 28, 2010, 06:08:52 PM
Redd why are you quoting me when you agree with me?   :headscratch:
Title: Re: Da
Post by: Changeup on January 28, 2010, 07:42:43 PM
Its all good...if you get in there sometime, yell at me...I will get you in a good fight, or give you one...lmao, I don't care if I win or lose...its like gambling, win or lose its entertainment (at least that's what we are supposed to think right?)  :salute

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Title: Re: Da
Post by: Redd on January 28, 2010, 08:02:42 PM
Its all good...if you get in there sometime, yell at me...I will get you in a good fight, or give you one...lmao, I don't care if I win or lose...its like gambling, win or lose its entertainment (at least that's what we are supposed to think right?)  :salute

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I'm in there often changeup - I have the attention span of a gnat , and the MA takes so long to find a decent fight
Title: Re: Da
Post by: SPKmes on January 28, 2010, 11:53:07 PM
Jebus, I asked a simple question and explained why I was asking it.  :O

probably about 4000 posts ago it would have been a simple question....these days however......there is no explanation to what happens here (BBS) these days...I'm relatively new to this but sheeesh...it is quite a scary place at times lately...
Title: Re: Da
Post by: Changeup on January 30, 2010, 12:18:40 AM
It is a little unbelievable in here at times...some squeeker got TORE UP for asking about an update.  Oh well....internet persona/tough guys I guess.

Redd - Look me up...I will fly with ya or 1 v 1...I need the help!! lol

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Title: Re: Da
Post by: bravoa8 on January 30, 2010, 12:34:12 AM
There is nothing preventing anyone from forming a squad in the DA.  It will be the same squad in any of the main arenas as well.

No one is telling anyone how to play the game.  The DA has always been an optional arena, or an extension to the main arenas.

Oh the drama.  "MY WORLD HAS BEEN CHANGED!  ARRRRRGGHH!!!"  Get over it.  If this is all you have to worry about in life, how would you like to change places?  Sheesh.

Scores are still separate.  What also changed was the ability of players to come to the DA, cuss, swear, get privs revoked, go back to the MA change game ID's, and come back to the DA to repeat, ad infinitum.  When players start running new business away from the game, things will change.  Thank the community for it.

Oh yes, that also means if you lose your text/voice privs in the DA, you lose them in every arena.
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: I like it Skuzzy! :aok
Title: Re: Da
Post by: bj229r on January 30, 2010, 10:03:06 AM
I was REALLY trying to enjoy the lake....but most nights it's packs of Tempests and F4u4's orbiting way high, occasionally diving down at light speed to pop someone grabbing out. There really aren't many fights, as most people would define the term. Too many folks prefer the safety of a large pack in the most populated side, and would prefer to be the 6th guy in on a low, single con rather than find a suitable 1 on 1.

(All that aside, the way it WAS, a lake squad with same name as MA squad could have inter-arena squad text, as well as the ".sr" thing, which was somewhat helpful. Don't know if it was necessary that both squads had same CO)
Title: Re: Da
Post by: Changeup on January 30, 2010, 11:21:23 AM
BJ,

I can think of about 10 to 12 folks nightly that would 1 v 1 with you anytime its furball, gangtime city in there.  Look for me, TnDep, xxxJCxxx, Thrash99, NoHope, BrknArow, RiddleME, Memes or Wing46.  Any of them will give you what you want...it may not be a 1 v 1 against Grizz or SkyRock but it will be a good fight.

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Title: Re: Da
Post by: bj229r on January 30, 2010, 11:33:29 AM
BJ,

I can think of about 10 to 12 folks nightly that would 1 v 1 with you anytime its furball, gangtime city in there.  Look for me, TnDep, xxxJCxxx, Thrash99, NoHope, BrknArow, RiddleME, Memes or Wing46.  Any of them will give you what you want...it may not be a 1 v 1 against Grizz or SkyRock but it will be a good fight.

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That's the thing..I ALWAYS see you guys...ALL at ONCE...ALL way high...ALLL diving and firing at me as one. If I manage to avoid the first 2 or 3...the rest of the borg cube come diving in firing their hizookas. I love furballs mind you, but so often...it isn't one, and too many folks DON'T want one. That's not necessarily directed at you guys, but it's the rule at the lake far more than the exception. I'm always up for duels..2 on 2...3 on 3's, etc  at the other fields, I'm just done with the stupid lake
Title: Re: Da
Post by: Qrsu on January 30, 2010, 11:55:26 AM
Disclaimer: I suck and can't finish fights quickly.

I'll often run into a 1v1 that doesn't really go in my favor and I fight back hard enough to drag it out and set up a few snap shot opportunities - many times when this happens an additional con dives in to help out which I can understand... so I switch gears to fend off two because I know the guy I was fighting is still committed. Then comes three ... four... five... Why do I even count... Oh and hey, they're all Tempests, La7s, Spit16s and Ponies trying to clear the first guy's 12. I don't have a problem in getting shot down little by little against 5 guys it's just that I feel for the poor guy who worked hard to have almost beat me, only to have his buddies swoop in for the kill and virtual high five each other.

Oh and by the way, this happens in the DA as well as the MA.
Title: Re: Da
Post by: Changeup on January 30, 2010, 12:06:47 PM
BJ,

I understand...just yell at us and we will set up some 3 v 3 or 8  v 8 if you have some folks that wanna fly or whatever you would like or fly with us....good guys one and all. :salute

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PS - You very RARELY will ever see me up high...I don't have the patience for the climb-out but when you do see us high, please, look at the Bish or Rook #'s for that particular moment...the nits in the DA go high to get an advantage when the numbers are against them...like last night!! lmao but 8 times out of 10, we will be at 5K crankin it out
Title: Re: Da
Post by: Redd on January 30, 2010, 03:24:18 PM
I was REALLY trying to enjoy the lake....but most nights it's packs of Tempests and F4u4's orbiting way high, occasionally diving down at light speed to pop someone grabbing out. There really aren't many fights, as most people would define the term. Too many folks prefer the safety of a large pack in the most populated side, and would prefer to be the 6th guy in on a low, single con rather than find a suitable 1 on 1.

(All that aside, the way it WAS, a lake squad with same name as MA squad could have inter-arena squad text, as well as the ".sr" thing, which was somewhat helpful. Don't know if it was necessary that both squads had same CO)


If there's more than 15-20 ppl in there , don't even bother , find a 1-1 or stick to the MA. Either that or hang out wide on the fringes and wait for a stray to leave the herd.
Title: Re: Da
Post by: Changeup on January 30, 2010, 03:52:52 PM
OR fly with us IN the herd....if you can't beat them, join them

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Title: Re: Da
Post by: mensa180 on January 31, 2010, 04:54:46 AM
I see why it was done but like dedalos I missed having a few great dueling buddies in a squad in the DA, being able to hop in there and use .sr to see if they were on because they are not in my MA squad.  Perhaps the same could be accomplished with a buddy roster, .br.

Oh well, another wish, another sub-forum.
Title: Re: Da
Post by: onan on January 31, 2010, 05:22:56 AM
Love the DA for what it is........
The Ho's
The Picks
The desperate Temptards (edit...not all Temp sticks are Tards)
The desperate noobs
Some great guys on the outer fields who will show you how it's done.....and respectfully hand back your <S>ass after brutally kicking it.
Some uber fights that can be found quickly
Some non-uber fights that can be found too quickly
perk free rides
Great fuballs
Great 1 v1's
The frequent 5-1's
The dweeb smack on channel
The hilarious smack on channel
the lies.....and the truth
The camaraderie
the loneliness

The arena message that tells you what to expect.

I love it. It's not hard to find what you want.  Go to the lake for a Ball, set up canyon fights or invite/accept  1v1's.
The choice is ours.

KlunK
Title: Re: Da
Post by: mechanic on January 31, 2010, 05:48:59 AM
Seems a shame Dedalos, well we had fun while it lasted. Geuss we have to find a new way to hook up for duels.
Title: Re: Da
Post by: The Fugitive on January 31, 2010, 08:24:34 AM
Just another instance where the community couldn't, or wouldn't police it's self and HTC had to step in.
Title: Re: Da
Post by: Changeup on January 31, 2010, 09:18:14 AM
It policed itself just fine....as I understand the explanation from Skuzzy as it relates to the message in the DA, there were 3 or 4 pilots that just couldn't POLICE themselves...control issues I suspect...or personal issues :D.  The squad thingy was mutually exclusive to the behavior issues...

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Title: Re: Da
Post by: Tarstar on January 31, 2010, 09:35:37 AM
So I have a question.. Having flown mostly buffs for the past year and a half.. (Had to be good at something).. So never spent too much time in the DA..

Now I'm finally getting a little better in fighters (just a wee little but enough to keep trying).. So what is the best way to find a 1v1 in the DA? is there a channel or an area

that is best for this? Looking forward to getting my butt kicked but getting ganged is never very helpful.. lol.. Thanks  :salute
Title: Re: Da
Post by: The Fugitive on January 31, 2010, 10:01:34 AM
It policed itself just fine....as I understand the explanation from Skuzzy as it relates to the message in the DA, there were 3 or 4 pilots that just couldn't POLICE themselves...control issues I suspect...or personal issues :D.  The squad thingy was mutually exclusive to the behavior issues...

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That's what I'm saying. In the old days those  3 or 4 who couldn't police themselves would have been hounded and ridiculed to the point that they would have smartened up, or would have quit the game. Today people just accept that that is how it is and do nothing about it. HTC has provided a number of ways to help curb this crap, but most don't bother to use it. What do you think would happen if every morning when HTC turned on their computers at the office they had 30-40 films of these "3 or 4" people doing this crap? I'm thinking a few emails might be sent to request that some behavior modification be under taken.  :P

On the other hand if the majority of players feel that "cesspool" type of play is the way they think the game should go, not much will be done about it.
Title: Re: Da
Post by: bj229r on January 31, 2010, 11:10:40 AM
So I have a question.. Having flown mostly buffs for the past year and a half.. (Had to be good at something).. So never spent too much time in the DA..

Now I'm finally getting a little better in fighters (just a wee little but enough to keep trying).. So what is the best way to find a 1v1 in the DA? is there a channel or an area

that is best for this? Looking forward to getting my butt kicked but getting ganged is never very helpful.. lol.. Thanks  :salute
If ya go in there and announce on channel 1 from tower, odds are someone will meet you at a base


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OR fly with us IN the herd....if you can't beat them, join them
Alas, that is what most folks (on all 3 sides) have decided. They log in....look at the side with the most numbers, and join that country. In such arenas in years past, if there were 15 Nits...9 Bish and 3 Rooks...folks would take it upon themselves to changes sides and make it a more interesting fight. Now, they use that numerical advantage to orbit your base and gang you before you clear the field. (Even MORE hideous are folks who log in and seeing those disparate numbers, head to the biggest country to fly in the whorde, like a moth to a porch light)  I think the squad thing did it...once folks are mated to a chess piece, the dynamic changes, and it becomes a microcosm of the MA, except there are more Tempests
Title: Re: Da
Post by: onan on January 31, 2010, 02:49:41 PM




So what is the best way to find a 1v1 in the DA? is there a channel or an area
that is best for this?


If ya go in there and announce on channel 1 from tower, odds are someone will meet you at a base

 

Thats all there is to it.
Title: Re: Da
Post by: Changeup on January 31, 2010, 03:19:54 PM
Fugitive:

Understood...my bad.  You are correct, we were saying the same thing...I was reading your post quickly because I heard my wife in the background screaming, "HOW'S THAT ADDICTION GOING????....TELL YOUR PRETEND-INTERNET FRIENDS I SAID HELLO!!!!"....to which I screamed, "What honey???....OH, YES, THEY ARE BETTER THAN YOUR REAL LIFE FRIENDS HONEY...THANKS FOR NOTICING!!...LOVE YOU!!"

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Title: Re: Da
Post by: bj229r on January 31, 2010, 03:58:02 PM
Fugitive:

Understood...my bad.  You are correct, we were saying the same thing...I was reading your post quickly because I heard my wife in the background screaming, "HOW'S THAT ADDICTION GOING????....TELL YOUR PRETEND-INTERNET FRIENDS I SAID HELLO!!!!"....to which I screamed, "What honey???....OH, YES, THEY ARE BETTER THAN YOUR REAL LIFE FRIENDS HONEY...THANKS FOR NOTICING!!...LOVE YOU!!"

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:rofl :rofl :rofl You have one of those too...
Title: Re: Da
Post by: Changeup on February 01, 2010, 02:55:48 PM
Yes I do and she loves me for who I could be... :huh :rofl

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