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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Widewing on January 31, 2010, 11:08:50 AM
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Over the years, I have concluded that you can find some of the dumbest people on earth on automotive internet forums. Well, at least the dumbest people on earth who drive.
I was visiting a Jeep forum (dedicated to the newer JK Wrangler) and found a poll had been posted. It was a general interest poll, just to determine who was driving what and with what option packages. Simple enough.
Understand, that unlike owners of a new or late model Benz or Range Rover, Jeep Wranglers draw owners from the full spectrum of society. From CEOs to Blue Collar types, from college professors to guys who missed their 6th grade graduation because they were attending the birth of their 5th child.
Thus, I expected to find the results to be interesting, to say the least.
The first question related to the model year of their Jeep. Check off the box corresponding to the year of your Wrangler.
The second question was, do you own a 2 door or 4 door (Unlimited)? Check off the appropriate box.
Third question was, select the model you purchased. X-Sport, Sahara or Rubicon. Check off the appropriate box.
Fourth question was, select the type of transmission. 6 speed manual or automatic. Check off the appropriate box.
Here's the results:
98.74% of those responding picked a model year. 1.26% apparently didn't know what year their Jeep was made (nearly correlates to the percentage of chrystal meth users in society).
84.17% drive either a two door or an Unlimited. 15.83% drive a mystery Wrangler or never bothered to count the doors (you can leave your shoes on for that exercise). Perhaps they thought that two half doors only add up to one and there was no check box for that option.
82.91% own an X (Sport), a Sahara or a Rubicon. 17.09% own something else, which I assume is that mystery Wrangler again. Perhaps they did what many do and just removed the stickers and forgot what they bought....
92.96% have either the manual or the automatic. 7.04% obviously don't have a transmission. Must be the Flintstone model.
To obtain the above percentages, the person taking the poll would have had to not check boxes to all questions. All they had to do was check any box for each question, simple enough. Guess not.
Internet polls contribute at least one positive... They provide a nearly perfect corollary to the premise that you can't fix stupid.
My regards,
Widewing
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If you want to kill a few hours go check out some of the threads at pirate4x4. Granted there is some really good information and some amazingly talented posters, but like you said, there is also a huge range of people who go there.
My favorites are when people post pictures of their offroading adventures, including them just tearing the **** out of some natural hill side. Then someone goes on and says that they really shouldn't be doing that, and they come back super defensive with the attitude "this is MY America". Its amazing some of these people can use a computer.
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Here is oneThis is my Offroad ... since 1998 in Greece No one wants to ride with me,when someone was riding once with me :x ore the Take the Taxi to drive Back,what is Suspension?
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I passed offroad X5`s ML`s Hummers and Mountan Climbers with ropes
(http://www.pictureupload.de/originals/pictures/310110184551_100_1908.JPG)
No Aircondition No rust and cost me 1000 Deutschmarks No Comfort -10
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Never Drive in Nature Save Zones,Through Rivers (oil) ore Fields,High Gras near Beaches (Bird nests)
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If you want to kill a few hours go check out some of the threads at pirate4x4. Granted there is some really good information and some amazingly talented posters, but like you said, there is also a huge range of people who go there.
Indeed, there are some very smart and well informed posters to the Wrangler forums as well. Unfortunately, it's the supremely dumb ones who post the most. I actually saw one guy state that we should pay attention to brain-dead Joe, because he has 2,500 posts.
There is a current thread asking for advice driving on sand. The less than smart know-it-all's get it completely wrong, but they will argue to hell freezes over than argue some more on the technique needed for driving on ice.
The bad news is that 4x4 newbies haven't the experience to determine who is right; the incessant load mouth who knows nothing or the guy who posts once and nails it correctly.
My regards,
Widewing
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Lol Widewing, you need to come to my school for a few days and see how much they know about their cars. Some girl posted or asked me "What does washer fluid low mean?" and I first replied with an "ROFL YOU IDIOT HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY NOT KNOW THAT!" then I told her all she had to do was to pop the hood and pour some water or washer fluid in the washer fluid tank, which she thought was too hard for her :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Come visit where I work. I can introduce you to dumb people. We had a big shot come for a visit. He was looking at the stairway and actually ask if they went up of course I said they only go down. I had a talking to by my boss.
v1st
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:D Me: "Hi welcome to the Internation Bank of Commerce, how can I help you today?"
:cool: Cust. : "Yes, I need to check on my account balance...*Hands over ID and his debitcard* "
:D Me: "Ok sir, you have -450.89$"
:huh Cust: "What?"
:D Me: "-450.89$"
:huh Cust: "Can you explain that to me?"
:D Me: "Well sir, yesterday you had a balance of 102.50$, then a purchase of 553.39$ went through at Wal-Mart"
:mad: Cust: "WHAT!? I never went to wal-mart! someone must have stolen my card!"
:D Me: *Hands back Debit Card*
:eek: Cust: "Well, this is ridiculous, the card should have declined!"
:rolleyes: Me: "Well sir, when the account was opened you were informed of the Overdraft Courtesy that IBC Bank offers...*Hands over a copy of the depositors agreement with his signature* this is your signature accepting the terms and conditions of the overdraft policy"
:mad: Cust: "This is *#$%#%@ I never agreed to any of this crap!"
:cool: Me: "Would you like for me to go over our Overdraft Transfer Protection that would default in drawing funds from your savings to cover the extra charges?"
:furious Cust: "I want to speak to your manager!!!"
:aok Me: "Alright sir one moment"
:rofl
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There is a current thread asking for advice driving on sand. The less than smart know-it-all's get it completely wrong, but they will argue to hell freezes over than argue some more on the technique needed for driving on ice.
Driving on sand? By no means am I an off-road expert, not even an off-road novice... wait have I ever even driven off-road? :headscratch: But... from just thinking about it isn't driving on sand relatively simple? Don't you just deflate your tires a bit to maximise surface area, don't drive in the same tracks as someone else and stay well away from any water? Mud=bad, ocean=worse? But otherwise have fun and try not to hit any cacti, or cayotes for that matter?
And something I'm actually curious about since it appears that Texas is approaching another ice-age, for driving on ice... wouldn't you want the opposite; tires that are narrow and maximize ground pressure on the smallest area possible in order to dig down so that they punch through the ice to the road?
Although I must admit it is entertaining watching Austin, TX drivers attempt to drive on icy roads.
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How can somebody not take the time to know what vehicle they bought?
2001 Toyota Tundra, 4.7 liter V8, 4 speed automatic transmission, four wheel drive, SR5 trim, TRD package, extended cab.
Is that really so much to remember?
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I love the "Help! My blue car won't start!!!!1" threads.
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Speaking of stupid people and Jeeps, I get a kick out of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=CA&hl=en&v=IcHrkhHXoHo
and this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJA3J--g_yI
Yup, sometimes the "Get a big truck and yank out out" method is not the best approach :rofl :rofl
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Yes you often come across stupid people driving cars and in other situations. But where you see it the most is in the antics of car drivers. I often wonder though just how these people cope with all of life's complications and complexities. I mean just how do they survive? :banana:
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Over the years, I have concluded that you can find some of the dumbest people on earth on automotive internet forums. Well, at least the dumbest people on earth who drive.
I was visiting a Jeep forum (dedicated to the newer JK Wrangler) and found a poll had been posted. It was a general interest poll, just to determine who was driving what and with what option packages. Simple enough.
Understand, that unlike owners of a new or late model Benz or Range Rover, Jeep Wranglers draw owners from the full spectrum of society. From CEOs to Blue Collar types, from college professors to guys who missed their 6th grade graduation because they were attending the birth of their 5th child.
Thus, I expected to find the results to be interesting, to say the least.
The first question related to the model year of their Jeep. Check off the box corresponding to the year of your Wrangler.
The second question was, do you own a 2 door or 4 door (Unlimited)? Check off the appropriate box.
Third question was, select the model you purchased. X-Sport, Sahara or Rubicon. Check off the appropriate box.
Fourth question was, select the type of transmission. 6 speed manual or automatic. Check off the appropriate box.
Here's the results:
98.74% of those responding picked a model year. 1.26% apparently didn't know what year their Jeep was made (nearly correlates to the percentage of chrystal meth users in society).
84.17% drive either a two door or an Unlimited. 15.83% drive a mystery Wrangler or never bothered to count the doors (you can leave your shoes on for that exercise). Perhaps they thought that two half doors only add up to one and there was no check box for that option.
82.91% own an X (Sport), a Sahara or a Rubicon. 17.09% own something else, which I assume is that mystery Wrangler again. Perhaps they did what many do and just removed the stickers and forgot what they bought....
92.96% have either the manual or the automatic. 7.04% obviously don't have a transmission. Must be the Flintstone model.
To obtain the above percentages, the person taking the poll would have had to not check boxes to all questions. All they had to do was check any box for each question, simple enough. Guess not.
Internet polls contribute at least one positive... They provide a nearly perfect corollary to the premise that you can't fix stupid.
My regards,
Widewing
NOT Even remotely surprised.
you've no clue how many customers i write up, that don't know what year or model car they're driving.
you should also see the looks on their faces, when asked if it's automatic or manual. most don't have a clue what the difference is anymore.
it's just as bad dealing with men these days, as it is women.
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You should see some of the whack jobs and their beliefs on this conspiracy / UFO site.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=16
Somethings you can relate to but man.... some of these people are nut jobs.
NO, not in the 2012–2013 period — says Ashayana Dean and continues: but due to their Dis-ease of Supreme Arrogance, the Illuminati-Elder Force still thinks so. Through continuing Guardian intervention, the geomagnetic Rapid Pole Shift and geographical Pole Shift “Crust Roll” that the Illuminati intend to initiate between October 2012 and February 2013, will not occur as the Illuminati-Elders plan. The Illuminati agenda requires Earth’s planetary Merkaba Fields to reach a specific acceleration of Metatronic spin-speed, in order to fully engage the Alpha-Omega/ Toral Rift 10,948 BC–Time Rip Alignment on the December 21, 2012 “alignment peak.” Through Guardian counterstrategies that are already in place, Earth’s Merkaba Fields will not achieve sufficient Metatronic spin-speed to progress into full “Metatronic-55” activation for full immersion into the Toral Rift Time Rip.
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please tell me that mumbojumbo quote was a humorous post? :pray
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please tell me that mumbojumbo quote was a humorous post? :pray
Na mate... full up fruit loop. Apparently this guy believes every word (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-alien011.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
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Speaking of stupid people and Jeeps, I get a kick out of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=CA&hl=en&v=IcHrkhHXoHo
and this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJA3J--g_yI
Yup, sometimes the "Get a big truck and yank out out" method is not the best approach :rofl :rofl
Ah yes, stupid recovery tricks... When a vehicle gets as stuck as those were, you need a winch. The Cherokee screw up would have been easy to avoid with a winch. Slow, even pull. Then again, since the Cherokee is a unibody design, it lacks the super strong recovery points of a Wrangler. Attaching the snatch strap to one side of the axle was pure dumb in the extreme. Then using a three ton diesel truck, getting a running start to jerk it out was the next major hump-up.
Of course, one must wonder what the Cherokee own was thinking by try to cross that mud bog anyway. Clearly, a mob of not so bright individuals masquerading as off road enthusiasts. But hey, you see this quite often. I've seen several instances where someone parked their 4x4 below the high tide line, only to find it won't start or they fall asleep and wake to find the ocean lapping at their tires. Ignorance has a cure, that being education. However, stupid is forever.
My regards,
Widewing
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Ah yes, stupid recovery tricks... When a vehicle gets as stuck as those were, you need a winch. The Cherokee screw up would have been easy to avoid with a winch. Slow, even pull. Then again, since the Cherokee is a unibody design, it lacks the super strong recovery points of a Wrangler. Attaching the snatch strap to one side of the axle was pure dumb in the extreme. Then using a three ton diesel truck, getting a running start to jerk it out was the next major hump-up.
My regards,
Widewing
they had probably watched the top gear ant artic special.......when jeremy almost sunk the toyota....they used a bungy rope? to pull him out. same thing though.....hook it up, running start, and they got him out.
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Ah yes, stupid recovery tricks... When a vehicle gets as stuck as those were, you need a winch. The Cherokee screw up would have been easy to avoid with a winch. Slow, even pull. Then again, since the Cherokee is a unibody design, it lacks the super strong recovery points of a Wrangler. Attaching the snatch strap to one side of the axle was pure dumb in the extreme. Then using a three ton diesel truck, getting a running start to jerk it out was the next major hump-up.
Of course, one must wonder what the Cherokee own was thinking by try to cross that mud bog anyway. Clearly, a mob of not so bright individuals masquerading as off road enthusiasts. But hey, you see this quite often. I've seen several instances where someone parked their 4x4 below the high tide line, only to find it won't start or they fall asleep and wake to find the ocean lapping at their tires. Ignorance has a cure, that being education. However, stupid is forever.
My regards,
Widewing
I liked the "Let's pull the Wrangler out sideways from the top of the roll bar." better. :rolleyes:
Seems like anytime you get a large group together like that, the idiots rise to the top like cream on milk. That's why I'll never go to EJS in Moab again, tried it once, only took me about an hour before I was sick of all the crowds of drunk screaming idiots, and even the "less popular" trails were backed up with traffic.
Nowadays I don't wheel as much as I used too, and when I do it's either alone (not the smartest I know, but I always take survival gear, and am prepared to hike out if I have too), or with 1 other rig (my brother).
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:D Me: "Hi welcome to the Internation Bank of Commerce, how can I help you today?"
:cool: Cust. : "Yes, I need to check on my account balance...*Hands over ID and his debitcard* "
:D Me: "Ok sir, you have -450.89$"
:huh Cust: "What?"
:D Me: "-450.89$"
:huh Cust: "Can you explain that to me?"
:D Me: "Well sir, yesterday you had a balance of 102.50$, then a purchase of 553.39$ went through at Wal-Mart"
:mad: Cust: "WHAT!? I never went to wal-mart! someone must have stolen my card!"
:D Me: *Hands back Debit Card*
:eek: Cust: "Well, this is ridiculous, the card should have declined!"
:rolleyes: Me: "Well sir, when the account was opened you were informed of the Overdraft Courtesy that IBC Bank offers...*Hands over a copy of the depositors agreement with his signature* this is your signature accepting the terms and conditions of the overdraft policy"
:mad: Cust: "This is *#$%#%@ I never agreed to any of this crap!"
:cool: Me: "Would you like for me to go over our Overdraft Transfer Protection that would default in drawing funds from your savings to cover the extra charges?"
:furious Cust: "I want to speak to your manager!!!"
:aok Me: "Alright sir one moment"
:rofl
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