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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: DREDger on February 09, 2010, 01:44:39 PM
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If any of you are trying to or thinking about quiting smoking, I highly recommend Chantix.
I've struggled with it for years and tried everything...the patch, inhaler, wellbutrin.
The problem with the patch, gum or inhaler is that you only prolong the nicotine physical addiction...so it draws out the suffering.
With chantix you smoke for one week while taking it, then go cold turkey.
I won't say it's easy, but having tried everything else I'm sold on it, it really takes off the edge.
Plus it makes you dream some really crazy toejam, it's like going to the movies. :rock
Now, please feel free to post how you enjoy smoking and are going to go have one just to spite me, hehehe. :bolt:
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I will stick to my e-cig thanks .
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Now, please feel free to post how you enjoy smoking and are going to go have one just to spite me, hehehe. :bolt:
Going outside as soon as it hit the post button...and it's snowing heavily. :neener:
Since my insurance doesn't cover such things...I'm going to have to prolong my agony a while longer.
:salute to you sir for taking the jump. I would recommend that you stick with the Chantix for no less than 2 months...several people I know tried and failed when they quit taking it in less than 2 months.
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I've seen first hand evidence that hypnotherapy really works for some people.
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Going outside as soon as it hit the post button...and it's snowing heavily. :neener:
Sucks for you, I'm smoking while I hit thew post button, I'm in flavor country. :aok
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Plus it makes you dream some really crazy toejam, it's like going to the movies. :rock
mmm.... maybe I should take this stuff just for fun? :lol
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Personally I dont smoke, I do dip though im no doctor so im not positive that what works for a smoker would work for a dipper and vice versa.
I have tried wellbutrin, and it really messed me up. Sleeplessness, loss of appetite etc. It did help me cut back on my habit, but I like to eat and sleep too much so that went out the window.
Chantix didnt do crap for me. I didnt even have those weird crazy dreams I hear about! I feel jipped.
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I quit smoking 5 weeks ago, cold turkey, with no substitutes (gum, patch, toothpicks, food etc).
I decided smoking half my life was enough (36 now). I was never able to stop before for long, this time is different I just had enough.
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Sucks for you, I'm smoking while I hit thew post button, I'm in flavor country. :aok
LOL...dork. :neener:
I'm at the office...getting to the point where even smoking outside is banned.
Personally I dont smoke, I do dip though im no doctor so im not positive that what works for a smoker would work for a dipper and vice versa.
I have tried wellbutrin, and it really messed me up. Sleeplessness, loss of appetite etc. It did help me cut back on my habit, but I like to eat and sleep too much so that went out the window.
Chantix didnt do crap for me. I didnt even have those weird crazy dreams I hear about! I feel jipped.
I'm not surprised...welbutrin is an anti-depressant, one of it's "side effects" is it helps curb the desire to smoke because of the other side effects...I tried it for a month...got a better reaction from Nyquil.
Chantix wouldn't do much for someone who dips or chews...the nicotine delivery system is different than smoking...and Chantix is made to block the receptors in the brain which cause a person to crave the fast nicotine intake that smoking gives...that little head rush isn't from holding your breath, it's the chemical reaction in your skull and it's very similar to the craving your brain gets from some illegal drugs.
:D I only know this because my doc is a very sociable milf who enjoys talking.
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I want your doctor! My doctor (real good doctor, knowledegable etc.) is an older guy, and he tends to be really "old school" in his approach and views on various meds.
Remember that old doctor in the movie Arachnaphobia? Yeah, well my doctor is his brother it seems like. My pysch, and pain specialist on the other hand are polar opposites of my primary care doctor in regards to how and what they do things.
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smokes 2 packs a day for 26 years......never wanted to quit...did it for my doctor on a dare.
I had never tried to quit...because I loved it so much..and even my doctor said my heart and lungs did not sound as that of a smoker.
I picked a date almost a year in advance......and woke up everyday know THAT was the date....
on NYE at 11:59 pm I hotboxed my final cig.......got sick of course.......and spent the next four days goin up the walls.
on or about day 8 or 9.......I actually caught myself NOT thinking about smoking...and knew then I had it licked. that was 11 years ago.
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I was a pack a day smoker for 35 years. Quit cold turkey some years ago and never looked back. Had absolutely zero side-effects after I quit. Pissed me off!
Had I know it would have not had any effects on me, I would have quit a long time ago.
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I was a pack a day smoker for 35 years. Quit cold turkey some years ago and never looked back. Had absolutely zero side-effects after I quit. Pissed me off!
Had I know it would have not had any effects on me, I would have quit a long time ago.
"If I would have known it was going to be this easy, I would have done it years ago"
Surprisingly not an uncommon thought among ex-smokers.
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I was a pack a day smoker for twenty-nine years. I finally quit three years ago. I did use the lozenge (I forget the name) to take the edge off when I would get a craving. After about three months I didn't need the lozenge any more and I have been nicotine free since.
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Well I guess I'm one of the unlucky ones. I quit two and a half years ago and still think about cigarettes every day.
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I was a pack a day smoker for 35 years. Quit cold turkey some years ago and never looked back. Had absolutely zero side-effects after I quit. Pissed me off!
Had I know it would have not had any effects on me, I would have quit a long time ago.
You make it sound easy Skuzzy . I have tryed more time's than I can count and still no luck . Why I went to the electrical cig ..same habit but no smoke .
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I think it is different for every person Flench. It is also about motivation, to some degree. My motivation? One day I went to buy a carton of cigs, back when they were $25, or so. I plopped them on the counter and the clerk rings them up,......$50!
I had to look dumbfounded and she explained a new tax went into effect. I looked down at the carton, slowly pushed it away and never looked back. The rebel in me would not allow myself to be extorted into paying some sin tax. Then I discovered I had no side effects at all. I kept waiting for it. It never happened. It pissed me off!
All that wasted money.
Now, there is one thing. Maybe this is it. I had smoked myself down to Merit's lightest cig. The lowest nic and tar one they make (Ultima?). I was smoking them for a few years. Maybe that had something to do with it.
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The rebel in me would not allow myself to be extorted into paying some sin tax. Then I discovered I had no side effects at all. I kept waiting for it. It never happened. It pissed me off!
All that wasted money.
I tell ya that boils me too. On the other hand though, it's one of those things. The more expensive they are, the more likely kids will spend their money elsewhere....i guess.
One of the fun things I do is calculate savings and stuff, how that money is not going to the govt, hehe...bastiges.
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I tell ya that boils me too. On the other hand though, it's one of those things. The more expensive they are, the more likely kids will spend their money elsewhere....i guess.
One of the fun things I do is calculate savings and stuff, how that money is not going to the govt, hehe...bastiges.
Maybe I should renew my aces high per-scription with the savings
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Well I guess I'm one of the unlucky ones. I quit two and a half years ago and still think about cigarettes every day.
Oh I still get cravings very powerful cravings, but they only last for a second or less. The scary part, If I had a cigarette in my hand when one of these cravings hit I have no doubt that I would light it up and smoke it.
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I think it is different for every person Flench. It is also about motivation, to some degree. My motivation? One day I went to buy a carton of cigs, back when they were $25, or so. I plopped them on the counter and the clerk rings them up,......$50!
I had to look dumbfounded and she explained a new tax went into effect. I looked down at the carton, slowly pushed it away and never looked back. The rebel in me would not allow myself to be extorted into paying some sin tax. Then I discovered I had no side effects at all. I kept waiting for it. It never happened. It pissed me off!
All that wasted money.
Now, there is one thing. Maybe this is it. I had smoked myself down to Merit's lightest cig. The lowest nic and tar one they make (Ultima?). I was smoking them for a few years. Maybe that had something to do with it.
I see what you are saying . Maybe cutting down to the low nic and tar helped but motivation played a big roll on thing's . That's what I am having trouble with ..
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I tried smoking but didn't like it. That's why I've been building up to it. I started with the patch first then moved to the nicotine gum. Now I'm onto the e-cigarette and I plan to be into the regular cigarettes in another month. It's been a lot of work to get where I am, so it's good to know there's an easy way to quit when that time comes.
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Is there a chantix equivalent for dipping? I've tried to quit a few times now but going from a can a day to nothing is torturous.
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I was a heavy smoker until I quit about 2 1/2 years ago. I still get the occasional urge to light up but a after few deep breaths of fresh air, those feelings subside. My wife and I recently took a road trip from New york to Florida. Before I quit, I would have chain-smoked my way through the entire trip, my mouth tasting like the bottom of a bird cage by the end of the day. I'm really glad I stopped-good luck to all who are trying to quit. :aok
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I tried smoking but didn't like it. That's why I've been building up to it. I started with the patch first then moved to the nicotine gum. Now I'm onto the e-cigarette and I plan to be into the regular cigarettes in another month. It's been a lot of work to get where I am, so it's good to know there's an easy way to quit when that time comes.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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5 days butt free after about 24 years, lol I feel like I am having withdrawals bad, serious I feel extremely Crappy, this is not gonna be easy :cry
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NIce ink ! Keep up the good work . I know how hard it is <S> :salute
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5 days butt free after about 24 years, lol I feel like I am having withdrawals bad, serious I feel extremely Crappy, this is not gonna be easy :cry
Dude, run to the store and buy yourself a container of quality natural cinnamon sticks...when you get the craving to smoke, put one in your mouth and suck on it...last time I quit, the worst thing was getting the urge to smoke because of habits...I broke the habits with cinnamon sticks (at my doc's suggestion) and that made the rest easier.
Sugar free, all natural, good for your heart, taste pretty good (even though it's bark), and one stick lasts a long time.
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Dude, run to the store and buy yourself a container of quality natural cinnamon sticks...when you get the craving to smoke, put one in your mouth and suck on it...last time I quit, the worst thing was getting the urge to smoke because of habits...I broke the habits with cinnamon sticks (at my doc's suggestion) and that made the rest easier.
Sugar free, all natural, good for your heart, taste pretty good (even though it's bark), and one stick lasts a long time.
well that sounds alot better then strangling the guy next door :rofl
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well that sounds alot better then strangling the guy next door :rofl
I guess he just doesn't need strangling all that bad then.
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I took Chantix to quit smoking 2 1/2 years ago and don't regret it at all. I never had any of the nausea or bad dreams. I tried to quit several other times inside of many years to quit and ended up smoking for close to 20 years. I highly recommend Chantix as a way to quit smoking but I suggest taking for 6 months.
I took it for 6 months and now have no cravings and that even means when I drink alcohol (even heavily). One time I even smoked a cigar after stopping smoking and still never had a craving. :rock
Just watch out because I read just recently that they have found out that the Chantix can cause you to become more aggressive. I wish I had known that prior to taking it so that I could have been more aware and possibly been able to tone it down some. That increase in aggression ended up costing me some respect at my job and made a few of my "friends" decide that they want to spend far less time around me.
With all that said I still recommend Chantix but just be aware.
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I quit 5 years ago, after smoking for about 7.
I quit by using the gum. Funny thing was, the first time I "tried" to quit using the gum it didn't work - but it worked like a charm the second time around.
I think the gum & the lozenge work by breaking your habit into 2 parts - first you have the "my mouth is bored" part, then the nicotine addiction part. By breaking it into 2 parts it seemed to work better for me. I remember it was tough for the first few days grabbing a piece of nicotine gum when I really wanted a cigarette, and it was tough for the first few days grabbing a regular piece of gum when I wanted a nicotine gum, but I almost never think about smoking now.
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I smoked heavy for 20 years. Just last year I tried the lozenge and it worked. To those of you who haven't tried it..its damn nasty!!!. One good way to start quitting is trying to break patterns of when you smoke. (My biggest was lighting up with the morning coffee and after completing a huge lunch rush at work) Instead of lighting up, you pop one of the lozenge and it really does cure the craving.
Heavy smokers don't realize most of the time that they are lighting up...its just subconsciously lit up for no apparent reason. I became aware of this and a good way to combat it is by rationing how many smokes you "allow" yourself during the day.
Motivation is key. You can try all the stop smoking aids all at once and it will do nothing if you don't have the will to quit. The first 2 weeks were hell without nicotine but its well worth it. Also, keep up the motivation. Most that do quit, restart after a couple weeks, months.
Now...if they only made a lozenge to help with my AH addiction, it would keep me from being easy targets to you all :rolleyes:
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Now...if they only made a lozenge to help with my AH addiction, it would keep me from being easy targets to you all :rolleyes:
They have one, its called sex, and your wife has told me you're not paying much attention these days. :banana:
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I need a BLEEPING BLEEPING Butt, I am seriously going frigging crazy every little thing is pushing me to the edge I want to smash crap....this sux
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I need a BLEEPING BLEEPING Butt, I am seriously going frigging crazy every little thing is pushing me to the edge I want to smash crap....this sux
Now is the time my friend to go fly and kill kill kill the red guys, its ok go take yer frustrations out hehe
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I need a BLEEPING BLEEPING Butt, I am seriously going frigging crazy every little thing is pushing me to the edge I want to smash crap....this sux
Oh man I bet .Are you trying the gum or anything ?
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Oh man I bet .Are you trying the gum or anything ?
no been trying to take it out on the wife's... err... lower parts, but that only works for so long.
kids are stressing me out big time.
im on the verge of breaking....holding car keys in hand...screw it quitters never win anyways.
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Cinnamon sticks...not the candy stuff either.
If you're going cold turkey without the aid of meds...gonna be a bit rough but the cinnamon sticks will help you at times like this. For fallback emergency use only, a couple of small cheap cigarillos, non-filtered...once you're done hacking up a lung from inhaling a bit of that, you won't have so much of an issue.
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I've never had trouble quitting, every year I go to my moms in Texas and at her house you have to go outside to smoke, so I just don't smoke when I'm there. I find that I usually smoke about a pack a day right now, but if I have a buzz going from the pain meds I take it gets up to close to 3 packs a day.
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My tobacco quitting aid was full blown heart failure, followed by an emergency triple bypass. I am just now recovering enough to fly again, and am finally getting back to a more normal life. I had a real strong craving for tobacco a few days ago for some reason, the first since the surgery, but it passed, and I just find I don't want it anymore.
I don't recommend this method to others though, a bit hard on your system overall. The type of blockage I had, I am one of only about 10 people that my cardiologist knows of that didn't earn :angel: these wings :)
Every day is now a gift.
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My tobacco quitting aid was full blown heart failure, followed by an emergency triple bypass. I am just now recovering enough to fly again, and am finally getting back to a more normal life. I had a real strong craving for tobacco a few days ago for some reason, the first since the surgery, but it passed, and I just find I don't want it anymore.
I don't recommend this method to others though, a bit hard on your system overall. The type of blockage I had, I am one of only about 10 people that my cardiologist knows of that didn't earn :angel: these wings :)
Every day is now a gift.
well glad your still kicking :aok
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I smoked for about 20 years... maybe a pack to a pack and a half a day.
In 2003 I quit for two weeks cold turkey... then I got in a fight with the boss and quit my job.. drove down the 7-11.. bought a pack.. had a few... went back.. apologized and went back to work.
In 2008 my wife and I decided to quit together. I quit for two and a half months using the gum. By this point I was addicted to the gum, but not smoking. Wife quit for not even a week. She kept taunting me and I finally caved. She left me just before christmas that year for a guy off the internet.. just disappeared half way across the country and filed a bogus restraining order. 9 years of us down the drain...
By May, 2009, I was starting to feel like a person again... getting my self esteem back and my sense of.. well wanting to live again! I decided that when I was ready to quit smoking for real, then I would be ready to move on with my life. I was at Walgreens for some stuff and noticed their nicotine gum was 50% off (the generic stuff, but still).... it was just too good a deal to pass up... so I bought a box. Then on the way home I decided that when I finished this pack that would be it... I opened the pack to have a smoke and it was the LAST ONE! So I took my time.. smoking it... enjoying it... and haven't had one sense.
A month after that I was out of gum.. went to buy some more.. saw the price (not on sale this time) and was like "SCREW THAT! I'm NOT PAYING THAT!"... so I got a pack of regular gum instead... and a couple months after that I didn't even need regular gum at all!
Since then I've gotten a GREAT girlfriend, moved into a GREAT house... had two GREAT vacations and actually have money to blow! My ex was financially sucking me dry.. to the point to where we had to file bankruptcy. I just feel so free... honestly... I really don't believe I really knew what having a happy life meant until this last six months or so!
And all I can say about my ex is thank GOD we didn't have kids. . . what a nightmare that would have ended up being...
Now.. I was one of the ones who truly were hooked... I would be lying if I didn't say I don't crave a cigarette almost constantly, but I've learned to just take a few deep breaths and ignore that urge. My dad quit 22 years ago and claims he still wants one just as bad as the day he quit... I don't think I had any of the 'side effects'... no sickness or headaches or anything (except when I accidentally swallows nicotine gum juice)... just the craving.
I do believe that some people never really get hooked to cigarettes... I know people who smoked for years and just quit and never even really craved one.
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well I am weak I bought a pack of black and mild cigars, the deciding factor, I don't want to be a jerk to my kids. I would rather die.
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well I am weak I bought a pack of black and mild cigars, the deciding factor, I don't want to be a jerk to my kids. I would rather die.
maybe you just wanted to smoke and used that as an excuse? I know I used that excuse many times. couple of years ago I took wellbutrin for several months, it helped me quit, 2 of my co-workers also quit using wellbutrin after seeing me quit. It helps to have a support group, it also helps wanting to quit. main thing is wanting to quit, and try as many times as it takes :aok.
semp
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well I am weak I bought a pack of black and mild cigars, the deciding factor, I don't want to be a jerk to my kids. I would rather die.
That's the way I get then I have tryed to quit , I get very mean and can't keep my cool and would hert you if you crossed me the wrong way....so looks like I will allway's be a smoker ..This is the only thing I have found that I can not do . Even when I was in rehab I still could not quit those dam cig's ...
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Not aimed at anyone in particular but if quitting smoking makes you violent and
volatile you got some other, more serious issues to work on first.
(thought this topic had to do with the free Blackberry for smokers news. Was
trying to figure a way to get a free blackberry lol even though I do not smoke)
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Well I don't know that I would describe it as violent but definitely more irritable. I tried several times to quit with no aids and I would be almost unbearable to be around (not that I am not anyway ;) ). I would probably compare it to people constantly calling you while you are already stressed and irritated.
The stress for many to quit smoking is high anyway and having to deal with other day to day items makes for an increasingly difficult situation anyway. I would never say that I became violent (throwing things around or verbally lashing out) but whien quitting cold turkey it was obvious that I was very irritable and while on Chantix I even noticed that I became even more irritable and more demanding.
I realize that you were not aiming your comment at anyone in particular but I thought I would maybe elaborate a little just in case you have never really been in that situation.
These things are the reason support groups are so important when trying to take on something like quit smoking.
I also never realized that it could have been the medication until after I went off Chantix and read the article that stated that some people had become more aggresive. I honestly thought that the increased aggressiveness may have come from some life changes that took place but now things seem to be settling back into where they were prior to quitting.
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Not aimed at anyone in particular but if quitting smoking makes you violent and
volatile you got some other, more serious issues to work on first.
(thought this topic had to do with the free Blackberry for smokers news. Was
trying to figure a way to get a free blackberry lol even though I do not smoke)
well of course I have more serious issues to work on :rofl I was at one point the most violent person I knew, I do have an excuse, I was raised to be a very violent person, well maybe not an "excuse" but a reason, I have been trying for the last 15 years to overcome the anger and hatred that was crammed down my throat as a little kid, I quit drinking about 14 years ago, stopped going out to clubs, I have completely removed my self from situations that bring out that rage, and now that I am trying to quit butts I feel it creeping up, getting stressed out real easy....one thing for sure Life is not "easy".
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I have been smoking since i was 15, started it because i thought it looked cool and didn't have the strength of character to go a different way from my mates. I've served in both the forces and the police service, where smoking was part of everyday life, especially in the military, i eventually left through an in the line injury. I still smoke hand rolled, and it's gotten to the stage now where i rarely if ever enjoy a smoke, well maybe after a long motorcycle ride in the summer, but thats about it, but still it's an addiction i can't shake and i hate it. I'm on 20-30 roll ups a day, spending ridiculous amounts of money on it and i quit every day
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I will stick to my e-cig thanks .
+1 to that! :aok
I'd definitely recommend these to anyone who has trouble quitting. Sure, I'm still addicted to nicotine. But its not the nicotine in cigarettes that makes them harmful. Its the tar and the 4000 other chemicals in cigarette smoke. You could compare nicotine to caffeine when you take out all that other crap. Obviously quitting outright would be the best option, but some people just can't do it no matter what they try. Some people are just prone to addiction, like me. I only smoked for four years but those cancer sticks had a hold on me that I couldn't shake. Two days after my first e-cig I was smoke free and have been so for three months now.
I won't go into the FDA's stance on the matter right now but I'll just tell you that they're full of ****. E-liquid contains propylene glycol(a food additive, also used in fog machines) and/or vegetable glycerin, nicotine, and food flavorings. This mixture is vaporized with a heating coil to be inhaled.
A bunch of dishonest companies are jumping into this new market and taking advantage of uniformed customers (and ripping them off). Expect to pay about 30-50 bucks for a basic starter kit. Here's an example...
http://www.cignot.com/product_p/kit-510-nbx.htm
Here's a site with a wealth of information if you're interested.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/
Not trying to advertise or anything. Just trying to help anyone I can. I can't imagine how many years I've added to my life because of these.
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well of course I have more serious issues to work on :rofl I was at one point the most violent person I knew, I do have an excuse, I was raised to be a very violent person, well maybe not an "excuse" but a reason, I have been trying for the last 15 years to overcome the anger and hatred that was crammed down my throat as a little kid, I quit drinking about 14 years ago, stopped going out to clubs, I have completely removed my self from situations that bring out that rage, and now that I am trying to quit butts I feel it creeping up, getting stressed out real easy....one thing for sure Life is not "easy".
You sound just like me ink . The only thing defence is I quit drinking 10 year's ago and bar hopping. I guess growing up in a biker gang did not help thing's .
And yes the e-cig's do work . I have not had a regular cig for 6 month's but I could still smoke one a mile long now ..so I think one just swaps one habit for another (e-cig) but it's got to be better for ya than regular cig's ..
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There's only one thing that you need to quit (never smoked, but my uncle does):
Intestinal Fortitude, that means being able to deal with stress without a cigarette and being able to overpower your addiction with an iron will, support group, and time.
But in the end, you'll have to leave the support group, and then it's just you versus the monster. If you think about it, it will kill you. If you look at it it will kill you. If it sees you, and you do either of those two things, it'll kill you very painfully.
-Penguin
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There's only one thing that you need to quit (never smoked, but my uncle does):
Intestinal Fortitude, that means being able to deal with stress without a cigarette and being able to overpower your addiction with an iron will, support group, and time.
But in the end, you'll have to leave the support group, and then it's just you versus the monster. If you think about it, it will kill you. If you look at it it will kill you. If it sees you, and you do either of those two things, it'll kill you very painfully.
-Penguin
It's real easy for someone who has never dealt with the addiction to tell others how to kick the habit.
Now if your uncle wants to come on here and explain it it might mean something.
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Well sorry, but you know that it's true. All of the quit smoking aids in the world won't help you if you don't have a will to kick the habit (maybe except a loaded gun at your head 24/7, but that isn't realistic). One other thing, he's on my mom's side, they're from Poland and can't really speak english that well (except for my mom but she lives here).
-Penguin
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No it's not true. Everyone is different, and everyone deals with it in their own way.
The picture you paint you have to be some god like person too successfully quit smoking, and you don't.
Truthfully the key too quiting for me was I was finally ready to quit.
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Both sides are correct.
Explanation
It does take the will to stay off of any addicition or better yet to get away from the habit portion of it. This includes all the usual excuses for failure (new stressful situations like death in family or job changes, looking for something to do with your hands or mouth while trying to quit).
For many of us (I am in this category) it takes an aid to get over the chemical addiction. I tried several times to quit smoking and never made it more than a week and many of the times my nerves were such a wreck that I was unable to sleep and any little thing would set me off. I usually continued to smoke for the extra several years to avoid being disowned by my family and divorced from my wife. The addiction was more than I could handle without suicidal thoughts and an urge to beat the crap out of anyone who even spoke to me. Now when I went on Chantix none of those symtpoms occured with the exception of some mild aggression issues that again I found out later could have been from the Chantix.
The key here is there are 2 battles to fight when trying to quit smoking and the one that changes the most from person to person is the chemical addiction. I have found out now also that I am more prone to addiction than most, because I have become addicted to a medication that almost no one has ever gotten an addiction to (Norvasc).
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Thanks, good to know sir! But you do need a will, and sometimes an aid, to quit. The latter, is useless without the former. The former, is much more powerful with the latter though! But then you get the slider effect
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-Penguin