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Title: Oil damage
Post by: dedalos on February 20, 2010, 05:12:11 PM
Any idea when the oil damage problem will get fixed?  Fps goes to 0 and the game becomes a slide show. When in base deffence, there is always a fire or a plane takibg oil damage in the area so yes, depending on how you play, it can happen a lot.
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: Fruda on February 20, 2010, 05:22:54 PM
Can't say that this has ever happened to me.
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: Bronk on February 20, 2010, 05:27:44 PM
Is this what is causing my random FR hits?
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: TW9 on February 20, 2010, 05:37:48 PM
havent noticed this
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: Delirium on February 20, 2010, 05:47:03 PM
I don't have any frame rate problems with smoke.
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: WWM on February 20, 2010, 06:04:21 PM
Never seen it either............ It's a HTC conspiracy against Dedalos :noid
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: dkff49 on February 20, 2010, 06:11:29 PM
Are you trying to say you are having FR issues even if someone else has the oil damage? That makes very little sense to me, I have never had that problem.
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: Lusche on February 20, 2010, 06:13:48 PM
Are you trying to say you are having FR issues even if someone else has the oil damage? That makes very little sense to me, I have never had that problem.

I do. It happens occasionally, mostly in a furball on the deck when someone else is getting an oil leak. Result: About 3-4 seconds of stuttering.
But as it doesn't happen all the time, I unfortunately wasn't able to narrow it down yet.
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: Bronk on February 20, 2010, 06:15:07 PM
I do. It happens occasionally, mostly in a furball on the deck when someone else is getting an oil leak. Result: About 3-4 seconds of stuttering.
But as it doesn't happen all the time, I unfortunately wasn't able to narrow it down yet.

That's what i'm getting. Keep looking for spyware calling home but nothing found.
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: dkff49 on February 20, 2010, 06:18:04 PM
I do. It happens occasionally, mostly in a furball on the deck when someone else is getting an oil leak. Result: About 3-4 seconds of stuttering.
But as it doesn't happen all the time, I unfortunately wasn't able to narrow it down yet.

ahh I see. I never noticed anything like that, the only time I ever get FR issues with oil damage is if I'm the one with the leak.
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: Sunka on February 20, 2010, 07:22:53 PM
I do. It happens occasionally, mostly in a furball on the deck when someone else is getting an oil leak. Result: About 3-4 seconds of stuttering.
But as it doesn't happen all the time, I unfortunately wasn't able to narrow it down yet.
:headscratch: And i thought it was just me.
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: E25280 on February 21, 2010, 01:02:22 PM
I do. It happens occasionally, mostly in a furball on the deck when someone else is getting an oil leak. Result: About 3-4 seconds of stuttering.
But as it doesn't happen all the time, I unfortunately wasn't able to narrow it down yet.
Had this happen last night.  Was in the middle of a large fight for a base, everything running smoothly.  Fired at a plane and gave him an oil leak.  Suddenly FRs went to about 10.  Didn't associate it with the oil leak at the time -- but I was quite annoyed at the time that my already poor gunnery was made worse by the FRs and consequently my kill got away.   :(
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: CountD90 on February 21, 2010, 01:48:48 PM
I get a FR hit if I am on someones 6 and they have an oil leak. Since I shoot from very close distances not only am I flying in the smoke, my FR can get choppy sometimes.
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: Lepape2 on February 21, 2010, 01:52:17 PM
In a 1vs1 duel, had this same problem when i hit the oil of my opponent. FPS dropped from 40-50 to 15-20FPS for about 3-4seconds. My opponent said he was lagging too. Happens sometimes in the MA too but in a year and a half of AH, I only saw this problem 5 or 6 times.
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: Tec on February 21, 2010, 02:31:15 PM
Have this problem too but I thought it was leaking fuel/rad hits that was doing it.
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: Lusche on February 21, 2010, 03:29:31 PM
Have this problem too but I thought it was leaking fuel/rad hits that was doing it.

The more I think of it... it might be a combination, when someone / certain plane is getting a rad & oil leak at the same time?

Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: WMLute on February 21, 2010, 06:56:54 PM
Was flying with Dedalos last night near a Vbase with very few players in the area.  (10 max including GVs.  prob more like 5-8)

I flew over to steal Dedalos's kill, which according to my squad is what I "do",and the nme got an oil hit.

I now understand what Ded was saying in this thread.  Suddenly my fps dropped to near single digits and stayed low until the con died at which time they went right back to max refresh rate.

Happened to Dedalos and me with the same con at the same time with very few nme in the area.

There is something here people.  

I am not saying it always happens, but it for durn sure did last night.  Normally, heck almost always, when an nme has an oil hit it has no effect on my FPS what so ever.  Nothing I ever notice anyway.  This was different.  AH suddenly went to "Slide Show" mode.

Doubt it is my computer as me and Ded have diff. systems yet the same thing happened to both of us.  Sounds more like a bug and this thread should prob. be moved to the Bug Reports.


Could it be the opponent?  In the past I have noticed huge FPS hits when I am fighting certain players that goes away the moment they die.  I noticed it because it happened over and over in a fight and others around me also commented on it.  Soon as that guy dies everything is fine.  Is it possible they were doing something that would affect me and Ded's FPS?  (no idea what though)


Con was a 109G-2 if that means anything.

Wish I had filmed it.
(Sorry HTC)
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: warhed on February 21, 2010, 07:11:38 PM
The more I think of it... it might be a combination, when someone / certain plane is getting a rad & oil leak at the same time?



I have seen 109G14s have this problem seemingly more frequently than other planes.  I have been in cockpit with only an oil leak and suffered a FR hit myself, along with others noticing it at the same time.  I've definitely seen other planes throw out the FR hits with ONLY oil leaks.  Maybe it's the frequency of which I fly and fight G14s, but they seem to be the major culprit.
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: morfiend on February 21, 2010, 08:58:50 PM
  Wouldnt the bugs forum be the place for this thread?


   :salute
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: LLogann on February 21, 2010, 09:17:39 PM
I've been having frame rate issues as well, but cannot correlate it directly to one source. 

Darker smoke however, would seem to be appropriate for such a problem.

Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: dedalos on February 22, 2010, 08:04:36 AM
  Wouldnt the bugs forum be the place for this thread?


   :salute

Ahhh, yeah, maybe.  I was told it was a known bug after the latest update so I am not reporting a new bug.  Just wondering when is it going to be fixed.  My guess is more people read this than the bug forum so maybe someone has a workaround for it or maybe a lot of people say that they see it and that helps it up the bug fix list.


Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: SunBat on February 22, 2010, 08:27:14 AM
I don't have this problem b/c I rarely hit anbody anymore. :D

Seriously, I haven't noticed the smoke issue but I have noticed gv's being present will give me big FR hits and that never used to be the case.
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: SEraider on February 22, 2010, 10:00:34 AM
I recall it happening to me a few times.  It's legit question IMO.
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: froger on February 28, 2010, 01:17:24 AM
I do. It happens occasionally, mostly in a furball on the deck when someone else is getting an oil leak. Result: About 3-4 seconds of stuttering.
But as it doesn't happen all the time, I unfortunately wasn't able to narrow it down yet.
 

this happened to me tonight. on the deck and i popped a KIs oil and like he said.....frame rate slide show.
lasted about 5 seconds.
since the last update i have had trouble with the smoke.
   i thought it might be my on board sound so i shut it down and went with a dedicated card. <---no help there.
this random FR oil thing is just what it is, random so i guess it ain't that big a deal. as for the smoke FR drain...
   i give up. i just deal with it.



that is all
froger
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: Sonicblu on February 28, 2010, 07:34:34 PM
It seems to me that the FR drop is happening alot lately.

Everytime I am in icon range with a smoking plane it get a FR hit.
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: warhed on February 28, 2010, 10:02:08 PM
It seems to me that the FR drop is happening alot lately.

Everytime I am in icon range with a smoking plane it get a FR hit.

It definitely happens more than a few "random" occurrences.  At least as G14s go, it has to be somewhere around 10% of the time the oil gets smoked.
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: phatzo on February 28, 2010, 11:53:35 PM
I've been blaming GumNuts, every time I fly near him I get an FR hit. But the smoke and oil hits have become a lot more prevalant over the last few weeks.
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: dedalos on March 01, 2010, 07:50:52 AM
No cryptic one liner yet

Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: JunkyII on March 01, 2010, 08:02:42 AM
I cant hit anything with an oil leak anyway :o
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: Bravo80 on March 01, 2010, 10:02:20 AM
I've neverer had a problem with frame rate decrease in conjunction with an oil leak.  I've also found your engine life can be prolonged with multiple on/off's of the engine.
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: SEraider on March 01, 2010, 11:31:56 AM
I've neverer had a problem with frame rate decrease in conjunction with an oil leak.  I've also found your engine life can be prolonged with multiple on/off's of the engine.

I don't think that actually works because with the engine off, you are still loosing oil.

Am I wrong?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: warhed on March 01, 2010, 11:45:15 AM
I don't think that actually works because with the engine off, you are still loosing oil.

Am I wrong?  :headscratch:

You're always wrong, especially on this point  :neener:
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: SEraider on March 01, 2010, 12:31:41 PM
You're always wrong, especially on this point  :neener:

Am I dead to you yet??? :lol

Shall we express your displeasure with me in the DA tonight?  :joystick:  :airplane:
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: warhed on March 01, 2010, 12:42:18 PM
Am I dead to you yet??? :lol

Shall we express your displeasure with me in the DA tonight?  :joystick:  :airplane:

On Guard!!   :airplane:
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: dedalos on March 01, 2010, 07:27:36 PM
On Guard!!   :airplane:

mmmm, pancakes  :D
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: kvuo75 on March 01, 2010, 08:49:50 PM
I don't think that actually works because with the engine off, you are still loosing oil.

Am I wrong?  :headscratch:

yes you're wrong, though it makes no sense to me either... the prop / crank / pistons, camshafts, etc. etc. etc (and I presume oil pump?). are still moving due to windmilling prop, yet in the game, your oil pressure will remain, if you have the engine "off".

and as to the others, I just noticed today an oil hit to my own plane gives a brief FR hit all the way to 4-5fps (normally 60fps pegged), maybe 1-2 seconds, then it recovers and framerate back to normal.. never used to happen to me before!  :huh  getting oil hit on someone else doesnt do it at all.. even weirder...  :huh

what it kinda seemed like to me is it was loading texture for oil covered windscreen, and black smoke I could see out of the cowling out of front view off to the side.... maybe cuz I am running wider FOV than previously, its drawing close smoke and that takes more computer power? I dunno..


Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: Lusche on March 01, 2010, 08:57:58 PM
I don't think that actually works because with the engine off, you are still loosing oil.

Am I wrong?  :headscratch:

You are.

In AH you stop losing oil when the engine is not running. If you are in a twin engine plane and both have oil hits, you can extend your cruising time by shutting one immediately. The bring it back to life, when the other one runs out of oil & dies.

I've nursed quite a number of 262's back home thta way.
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: SEraider on March 02, 2010, 10:00:50 AM
Kvuo75 and Lusche,

Thanks for clarifying.... :salute
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: SEraider on March 02, 2010, 10:01:23 AM
mmmm, pancakes  :D

Do you even remember where the DA is at??  :D
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: dedalos on March 02, 2010, 12:53:19 PM
Do you even remember where the DA is at??  :D

Next to the IHOP?   :rofl  Been working almost 24 - 7 on that thingie lol
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: SEraider on March 02, 2010, 01:29:33 PM
Next to the IHOP?   :rofl  Been working almost 24 - 7 on that thingie lol

Thingie?? Oh yeah, the charity program...  :rofl
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: dedalos on March 02, 2010, 01:42:14 PM
Thingie?? Oh yeah, the charity program...  :rofl

Laugh now but if it works, I ll build an IHOP right next to your house
Title: Re: Oil damage
Post by: SEraider on March 02, 2010, 02:20:30 PM
Laugh now but if it works, I ll build an IHOP right next to your house


As long as you invite me for the 1st meal........we'll be good!  :cheers: