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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: FireDrgn on February 21, 2010, 11:21:11 AM
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Im looking for someone who is willing to help me trace an e-mail that came thru face book .
Is this even possible?
Thanks
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you should talk to facebook they might have that sort of data, on there servers
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Thanks --- anyways i figured it out .....for pete sake.. im glad i told the girl NO i dont want to meet for dinner.
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This sounds interesting
Go on....... :)
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Get pictures or no one will believe you even know a girl.
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Thanks --- anyways i figured it out .....for pete sake.. im glad i told the girl NO i dont want to meet for dinner.
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Say no to anyone on facebook lol
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Say no to anyone on facebook lol
personally, from ewhat i hear, i avoid facebook all together./
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You and me both CAP. I treat that "social" networking stuff as a bad idea. That farmville crap is the spawn of the devil.
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No no no, Farmville is the greatest thing ever invented. When I'm not working, and the wife is on there, I can get on AH :D ;)
Wurzel (Never looks a gift horse in the mouth, as it were!)
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The wife loves farmville too. I think thats where our sheep went. :rolleyes:
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Have to love the fact the insurance companies are looking at raising insurer rates for home and car if you use Facebook.
The basis is people who talk about getting new things for thier house and getting new cars are making it easier for criminals to pick thier targets.
Those sneaky insurance folks do not miss a trick.
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Seriously? Sheesh - there is a website called please rob me, which pulls info from facebook and others - wifes been told not to put anything about our movements etc up on facebook......plus her's is all private like.....
Wurzel
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No no no, Farmville is the greatest thing ever invented. When I'm not working, and the wife is on there, I can get on AH :D ;)
Wurzel (Never looks a gift horse in the mouth, as it were!)
I would tend to agree but since my PC basically died for gaming I have to share the wife's.
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Have to love the fact the insurance companies are looking at raising insurer rates for home and car if you use Facebook.
The basis is people who talk about getting new things for thier house and getting new cars are making it easier for criminals to pick thier targets.
Those sneaky insurance folks do not miss a trick.
are you serious?
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are you serious?
Yes, I am. My Wife cancelled her Facebook account when she read the press release. Right know the insurance companies are formulating how they are going to increase rates based on certain datum on the users Facebook page.
It is not a matter of "if" it is coming, just "when" as they have made the formal announcement about it last week (or so). I'll dig around for the press release. It is not at my finger tips at the moment.
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Bummer.
-Penguin
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Yes, I am. My Wife cancelled her Facebook account when she read the press release. Right know the insurance companies are formulating how they are going to increase rates based on certain datum on the users Facebook page.
It is not a matter of "if" it is coming, just "when" as they have made the formal announcement about it last week (or so). I'll dig around for the press release. It is not at my finger tips at the moment.
wow. THAT is scary. it;s ALL users, or only ones that post certain things on there?
and if they are allowed to do this, what next?
charge us racers more, 'cause we go to the racetrack to race?
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wow. THAT is scary. it;s ALL users, or only ones that post certain things on there?
and if they are allowed to do this, what next?
charge us racers more, 'cause we go to the racetrack to race?
Actually they can do that now. As I recall, they do ask what your car will be used for. If you lie to them, it gives them an out not to pay a claim.
The press release was not specific enough about who on Facebook would be paying more, it simply stated they are evaluating rate increases based on Facebook. It stopped short of saying "data". Just have to wait and see.
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Actually they can do that now. As I recall, they do ask what your car will be used for. If you lie to them, it gives them an out not to pay a claim.
The press release was not specific enough about who on Facebook would be paying more, it simply stated they are evaluating rate increases based on Facebook. It stopped short of saying "data". Just have to wait and see.
that sucks.
the main questions i'm asked when renewing my policy, is if i'll be using any of my vehicles for commercial purposes. then they want an approximate mileage to and from work, which car i use mainly, what portions of their annual miles are to work, etc.
insurance is getting to the point where it is nothing more than legalized thievery.
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I have something to say about that.
1.) It's just become more invasive, and it's more like betting than thievery
2.) So in my humble opinion, it's like this. You step into a casino, and you have to make bets (policies), there's a certain fee that is charged to get chips (hidden 'gotcha' fees), you make bets and get returns if you win (accident). The casino wants you to get loads of chips and make lots of bad bets. They also want to minimize risk, so if you can get the person to buy enough chips so that making bets isn't as nessecary, you can minimize the risk further.
I can see what those guys want, and I understand how they want to get it. They want: your money, how do they get it? They find ways to see just what kind of a person you are before an accident. If that profile deviates far enough from norm, they will keep you on until that point. When you reach that point, you are dropped. Either that, or your rates skyrocket.
Yes, I agree, these people may seem evil, but they are trying to put bread on the table for their kids just the same as you do.
-Penguin
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I have something to say about that.
1.) It's just become more invasive, and it's more like betting than thievery
2.) So in my humble opinion, it's like this. You step into a casino, and you have to make bets (policies), there's a certain fee that is charged to get chips (hidden 'gotcha' fees), you make bets and get returns if you win (accident). The casino wants you to get loads of chips and make lots of bad bets. They also want to minimize risk, so if you can get the person to buy enough chips so that making bets isn't as nessecary, you can minimize the risk further.
I can see what those guys want, and I understand how they want to get it. They want: your money, how do they get it? They find ways to see just what kind of a person you are before an accident. If that profile deviates far enough from norm, they will keep you on until that point. When you reach that point, you are dropped. Either that, or your rates skyrocket.
Yes, I agree, these people may seem evil, but they are trying to put bread on the table for their kids just the same as you do.
-Penguin
Well they're just playing within the rules that we allow them to play under. It's wrong really, but can't blame them. It's up to us to call for the rules to be changed back to fair.
It certainly is like betting however..
They're saying "I bet you don't wreck that car in 6 months"
and we're replying "I'll bet I do! I'll bet 600 dollars I do!"
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But you see, 'fair' to us and 'fair' to them are two whole different worlds of 'fair'. Most of those guys never see the huge returns on the policies, they're just clerks and managers of sets of policies. A few are making the big bucks, but most are just peasants in comparison.
You have to realize that really cracking down on these people would put many an honest worker out of a job. Yes what they do can be called evil, but it's a nessecary evil for when things really do go wrong. My dad works in the financial sector, and not very high up. This kinda hits close to home.
But yes, checking out our Facebook accounts does seem a little strange, if not despicable.
I agree with your betting analogy though.
-Penguin
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I have something to say about that.
1.) It's just become more invasive, and it's more like betting than thieveryyou;ll understand once you've dealt with insurance companies. i've dealt with plenty. they take your money, and in return, insure your vehicle. sounds good right? about 1/2 of the time, they do their damndest to avoid paying you.
my most recent dealing was with a ladys insurance company....she was drunk, hitmy dakota where it was parked, bounced off, continued up the road, and nearly killed the dude in the bmw that she brodsided. her insurance company tried to tell me that they couldn't fix my truck, as they only covered her for $5k per accident. they tried to consider these as a single accident, so as to not have to pay me. then when they realized i knew their game, they sent an adjuster out, that was the biggest arse you could imagine. HE tried to tell me i don't know what i'm doing. i had to fight tooth and nail to get my truck fixed.
2.) So in my humble opinion, it's like this. You step into a casino, and you have to make bets (policies), there's a certain fee that is charged to get chips (hidden 'gotcha' fees), you make bets and get returns if you win (accident). The casino wants you to get loads of chips and make lots of bad bets. They also want to minimize risk, so if you can get the person to buy enough chips so that making bets isn't as nessecary, you can minimize the risk further.
I can see what those guys want, and I understand how they want to get it. They want: your money, how do they get it? They find ways to see just what kind of a person you are before an accident. If that profile deviates far enough from norm, they will keep you on until that point. When you reach that point, you are dropped. Either that, or your rates skyrocket.
Yes, I agree, these people may seem evil, but they are trying to put bread on the table for their kids just the same as you do.
-Penguin
you'll understand when you get added to the insurance policy. i have custmers that've paid 2 and 3k more on their policies because they added a teen driver to it.
if they simply came out, assessed the damage to the car, assessed fault, and paid, then i wouldn't say this. like i said.....i've dealt with them many times.
the ONLY time i didn't have to fight for compensation, was when the old lady in the saturn hit me head on. i think they wanted that settled fast, before i decided to sue someone.
this is what i lost to a pos saturn.
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa135/1LTCAP/ippie1.jpg)
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Here is an article about that...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/22/facebook-twitter-users-co_n_471548.html
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Boggles my mind why so many people want to put all there personal info on these social networks, my personal life is just that, personal.
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Boggles my mind why so many people want to put all there personal info on these social networks, my personal life is just that, personal.
you shoulda seen the show about google last night. :noid
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That just doesn't sound legal, can it?
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Google? Isn't the name a practical explanation of what they do? I'm fairly certain they can trace activities of users across multiple sites using their analytic scripts.
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Google? Isn't the name a practical explanation of what they do? I'm fairly certain they can trace activities of users across multiple sites using their analytic scripts.
i believe you're right on this. one of the things they said, is that if you're signed in when you do a search, they know exactly who and where you are. if you're not signed in, they still have the ip where you did the search from. they also said that if you study the searches done from an ip, that they can figure it out.
they keep all of that information for 18 months, then they anonomize it. :noid
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Boggles my mind why so many people want to put all there personal info on these social networks, my personal life is just that, personal.
It started off really small. When I joined facebook a while back there were only a few hundred people from my university on it, now if you aren't on it you are in the minority. There are a plethora of privacy features that have been implemented to protect yourself from people you don't know. Anyone who adds friends they don't know aka. random hot girls in bathing suits OR allow strangers to see your profile, you are subjecting yourself to some level of risk.
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that sucks.
the main questions i'm asked when renewing my policy, is if i'll be using any of my vehicles for commercial purposes. then they want an approximate mileage to and from work, which car i use mainly, what portions of their annual miles are to work, etc.
insurance is getting to the point where it is nothing more than legalized thievery.
*puts on insurer hat*
no it really doesnt suck. why should I pay quadruple the premium on my car insurance so someone else can trash their car on a track at no extra cost to them? its no different from age loading - why should I subsidise an 18 yr olds bad driving? insurance is about the most tailored product around - if you're a bad risk you pay more, if you're a good risk you pay less.
In most countries its also an extremely competitive market, meaning you get good value.
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*puts on insurer hat*
no it really doesnt suck. why should I pay quadruple the premium on my car insurance so someone else can trash their car on a track at no extra cost to them? its no different from age loading - why should I subsidise an 18 yr olds bad driving? insurance is about the most tailored product around - if you're a bad risk you pay more, if you're a good risk you pay less.
In most countries its also an extremely competitive market, meaning you get good value.
uumm....because i tow my race car tot he track?
or because i know my car isn't covered on the track?
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not sure what you mean, can you rephrase the question (if it was a question)?
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Yes what they do can be called evil
wow I didnt realise we had so many marxists around here, apparently offering goods or services for profit is now evil! :lol
Well they're just playing within the rules that we allow them to play under. It's wrong really, but can't blame them. It's up to us to call for the rules to be changed back to fair.
You have to realize that really cracking down on these people
what exactly is "wrong" and needs "cracking down on"? :headscratch:
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It started off really small. When I joined facebook a while back there were only a few hundred people from my university on it, now if you aren't on it you are in the minority. There are a plethora of privacy features that have been implemented to protect yourself from people you don't know. Anyone who adds friends they don't know aka. random hot girls in bathing suits OR allow strangers to see your profile, you are subjecting yourself to some level of risk.
Granted you can protect yourself from other facebook people and other online people, what I'm talking about is what gives them( facebook, myspace, yahoo, google (and the hundered other social places/search engines) the right to hold your info and use it or sell it to other online companies, for advertising, emailing you offers, ect, things of that nature, to many companies have our info probably more than you know about you, and what gives them the right to trade it around and stockpile data on you? that's what i really don't like.
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wow I didnt realise we had so many marxists around here, apparently offering goods or services for profit is now evil! :lol
what exactly is "wrong" and needs "cracking down on"? :headscratch:
what's wrong and needs cracking down on, is when they go out of their way to try to not to pay when one of their insured has n accident. read back to my post about what the one ladys insurance company tried.
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Granted you can protect yourself from other facebook people and other online people, what I'm talking about is what gives them( facebook, myspace, yahoo, google (and the hindered other social places/search engines) the right to hold your info and use it or sell it to other online companies, for advertising, emailing you offers, ect, things of that nature, to many companies have our info probably more than you know about you, and what gives them the right to trade it around and stockpile data on you? that's what i really don't like.
IIRC you can also deactivate that feature.
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what's wrong and needs cracking down on, is when they go out of their way to try to not to pay when one of their insured has n accident. read back to my post about what the one ladys insurance company tried.
believe me theres way more fraud coming from the side of the insured than the insurer ...
I read your account, seems very strange as ive never heard of 3rd party liability limit as low as $5k. doesnt matter though, she still has a legal liability for the full amount of any damages to 3rd party person or property, whether its paid by her insurer, state or by raiding her assets through the courts. (afaik true for most, if not all states)
If you didnt get full compensation I'd recommend finding a better insurance broker.
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IIRC you can also deactivate that feature.
Yes, but you are at the mercy of companies like Facebook making changes to thier licensing agreements. "Classmates.com" recently went through a change where they notified thier clients they were going to start selling all the information they have gathered and if you did not want that to happen, you have 30 days to notify them.
The problem was, the message was buried in a generic "someone has visited your profile" message. They provided a link to a page you had to log into in order to deny them selling data they have/had on you. The problem was the thousands of people who no longer knew how to log into the accounts and forgotten passwords. They were screwed.
Then all the other people who did not notice the warning in the original email were also screwed.
It will happen at MySpace and Facebook one day. It is inevitable.
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believe me theres way more fraud coming from the side of the insured than the insurer ...
I read your account, seems very strange as ive never heard of 3rd party liability limit as low as $5k. doesnt matter though, she still has a legal liability for the full amount of any damages to 3rd party person or property, whether its paid by her insurer, state or by raiding her assets through the courts. (afaik true for most, if not all states)
If you didnt get full compensation I'd recommend finding a better insurance broker.
oooo....i did. i had to force it out of them though. i have geico, and altrhough there was zero fault or liability on my end...the truck being parked and all.....they spent quite a bit of timne on the phone with me, helping me, advising me. i was and am very happy with the service i recieve from geico.
i forget the insurance company the lady had. had i not been warned of the game they were going to try, i wouldn't have gotten full compensation. then that frakkin adjuster........i'd have liked to have kicked his ass..........and if i was 20, rather than 47, i very well would have for the crap he gave me........
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wow I didnt realise we had so many marxists around here, apparently offering goods or services for profit is now evil! :lol
what exactly is "wrong" and needs "cracking down on"? :headscratch:
Well cracking down isn't my phrase, but what's wrong is really a fairly lengthy list to be honest with you. I understand that you work for an insurance company, but that doesn't mean that you need to wear blinders about policies that are wrong man. I'm not saying that all of insurance is wrong either, in general, it's a very good thing. I'm also aware that it's abused on both sides of the equation as well, I'm not under any illusions about that. I'm also not saying that everyone who works for the industry is a bad person or at fault for any of the policies. I worked for a rental car agency for a while, and I am very familiar with corporate greed that is really the heart of the issue here. I'm also just as familiar with the fact that the employees don't make policy and are not responsible for the bad ones that come down the pipe.
However, wrong is wrong man, and some things that are simply wrong should be obvious to any reasonable person, regardless of whether they'll admit to it or not due to, say, professional bias. I'm not trying to say you're a bad guy at all man, or blame you for what the industry does either. I'm just saying that a number of the policies that insurance companies carry out are wrong, obviously wrong, and need changing. Nobody needs to be demonized because of that, or should take offense at it being pointed out.
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ok, but what specifically?
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Well cracking down isn't my phrase, but what's wrong is really a fairly lengthy list to be honest with you. I understand that you work for an insurance company, but that doesn't mean that you need to wear blinders about policies that are wrong man. I'm not saying that all of insurance is wrong either, in general, it's a very good thing. I'm also aware that it's abused on both sides of the equation as well, I'm not under any illusions about that. I'm also not saying that everyone who works for the industry is a bad person or at fault for any of the policies. I worked for a rental car agency for a while, and I am very familiar with corporate greed that is really the heart of the issue here. I'm also just as familiar with the fact that the employees don't make policy and are not responsible for the bad ones that come down the pipe.
However, wrong is wrong man, and some things that are simply wrong should be obvious to any reasonable person, regardless of whether they'll admit to it or not due to, say, professional bias. I'm not trying to say you're a bad guy at all man, or blame you for what the industry does either. I'm just saying that a number of the policies that insurance companies carry out are wrong, obviously wrong, and need changing. Nobody needs to be demonized because of that, or should take offense at it being pointed out.
insurance is a very good thing....as intended. as rt mentioned, there are a lot of people that try to rip off the ins companies......but by the same token, ins companies seem to pick the strangest reasons to try to raise rates.
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I'll save the details as it is simply too long to regurgitate.
A few years ago, my Wife was involved in a car accident. She was behind another car, waiting at a stop light. A car full of kids in a Mustang decided they were not going to stop so they plowed into my Wife and shoved her car into the rear of the car in front of her.
Clearly not her fault and no one would dispute that. However, it took 5 years and a lawsuit to get the kids insurance company to fix her car.
So the insurance companies suck!
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Next up.
I sat on a jury where a person was suing a doctor for negligence. The basic premise was she refused to heed the doctors warnings and advice and she had a heart attack. The doctor saved her life, but his insurance company paid a $6M judgement for his negligence in preventing the heart attack.
Setting in the jury room and listening to everyone talk about how they had a chance to get even with the insurance companies was disgusting.
Afterwards I told the insurance lawyers they got screwed. They said it ended up being cheaper than they thought.
So the clients suck!
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I'll save the details as it is simply too long to regurgitate.
A few years ago, my Wife was involved in a car accident. She was behind another car, waiting at a stop light. A car full of kids in a Mustang decided they were not going to stop so they plowed into my Wife and shoved her car into the rear of the car in front of her.
Clearly not her fault and no one would dispute that. However, it took 5 years and a lawsuit to get the kids insurance company to fix her car.
So the insurance companies suck!
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Next up.
I sat on a jury where a person was suing a doctor for negligence. The basic premise was she refused to heed the doctors warnings and advice and she had a heart attack. The doctor saved her life, but his insurance company paid a $6M judgement for his negligence in preventing the heart attack.
Setting in the jury room and listening to everyone talk about how they had a chance to get even with the insurance companies was disgusting.
Afterwards I told the insurance lawyers they got screwed. They said it ended up being cheaper than they thought.
So the clients suck!
Sucky clients + Sucky insurance companies = Sucky System? :)
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It seems to be a race as to who can out-suck the other as both sides appear to be getting screwed. Although the insurance companies do seem to have a healthy amount of capital to work with.
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Sucky clients + Sucky insurance companies = Sucky System? :)
nah......just sucky people. :noid
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deleted my facebook profile a long time ago. And never posted pictures or anything personal.
http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/11/creepy-insurance-company-pulls-coverage-due-to-facebook-pics.ars
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/insurance/7269543/Using-Facebook-or-Twitter-could-raise-your-insurance-premiums-by-10pc.html
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ok, but what specifically?
Well, the most currently obvious thing in this particular thread, outside of people's anecdotes of problems with the industry, is Skuzzie's post and linked to article about raising the rates of Facebook users. I'm certain that if I went looking I could come up with literally thousands of news articles detailing bad policies designed only to reap profit and not to actually protect or to pay out. You, me, and everybody else sees them every day. Any random person you might stop and ask will have a story. (And yes, I know that's confirmation bias, the stories of good policies and good payouts get forgotten.)
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deleted my facebook profile a long time ago. And never posted pictures or anything personal.
http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/11/creepy-insurance-company-pulls-coverage-due-to-facebook-pics.ars
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/insurance/7269543/Using-Facebook-or-Twitter-could-raise-your-insurance-premiums-by-10pc.html
Do they really delete it, or do they just delete the interface to it? Makes it really easy to sell the information they have collected from you if they only delete the interface. Just saying.
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if rates are higher for facebook users its most likely because the risk is worse. rates are predominantly reactive - they reflect the data coming from actuaries. like I said the insurance market is fiercely competitive, noone wants to put up their rates because they lose market share and profitability.
it took 5 years and a lawsuit to get the kids insurance company to fix her car.
completely unacceptable, claim settlement is a personal bugbear of mine. interestingly our own data shows settlement delays are caused by: 3rd parties, the insured themselves, the insurer (in that order.)
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if rates are higher for facebook users its most likely because the risk is worse. rates are predominantly reactive - they reflect the data coming from actuaries. like I said the insurance market is fiercely competitive, noone wants to put up their rates because they lose market share and profitability.
completely unacceptable, claim settlement is a personal bugbear of mine. interestingly our own data shows settlement delays are caused by: 3rd parties, the insured themselves, the insurer (in that order.)
then why are my rates high? i've not had an "at fault accident since i was 24....i'm 47 now. no tickets, no notghing.
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if rates are higher for facebook users its most likely because the risk is worse. rates are predominantly reactive - they reflect the data coming from actuaries. like I said the insurance market is fiercely competitive, noone wants to put up their rates because they lose market share and profitability.
I would agree with that statement if there wasn't collusion at some level, which there obviously is, otherwise there wouldn't be industrywide changes such as that implemented. Just out of curiosity, how could being a facebook user possibly increase your risk to the point that your home insurance rates increase? If you're going to say increased chance of burglary, I'd be interested to see some statistics on that, because is sounds very highly implausible to me. I don't have stats, but I'd be willing to bet that nearly every robbery is unplanned and an attempt to get money or drugs or both. I just don't see thieves checking facebook to see which house might have good stuff or might possibly be out of town. It's possible, it just seems very very highly unlikely.
I suspect that it's much more likely that someone came up with an idea to increase the profit margin with no extra loss potential.
Like I say, they're just playing under the rules that they're given, I don't even blame them. I just think that it's time that the rules be changed to level the playing field.
I'm not against companies making profits either, not at all. In fact, I'm all for it.
What I am against however, is a company exploiting rules and operating is a slightly shady fashion in order to bring in an egregious profit, when they could make a nice and reasonable profit by operating in a completely fair manner. It's not even just the insurance industry either, so I'm not just picking on you guys. At some point there has been a shift. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABKLirW24LE
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Do they really delete it, or do they just delete the interface to it? Makes it really easy to sell the information they have collected from you if they only delete the interface. Just saying.
When you "delete" it, that just means you don't access the existing page anymore. Just like a website without visitors. It's not going anywhere - you just don't visit it any longer.
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Do they really delete it, or do they just delete the interface to it? Makes it really easy to sell the information they have collected from you if they only delete the interface. Just saying.
Well it took 14 days but they said the account was deleted. What they did in that 14 days and why it took so long I have no idea. Probably was a very bad idea even to sign up for something like that. Live and learn I guess.
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From the Facebook FAQ
If you deactivate your account, your profile and all information associated with it are immediately made inaccessible to other Facebook users. What this means is that you effectively disappear from the Facebook service. However, we do save your profile information (friends, photos, interests, etc.), so if you want to reactivate at some point, your account will look just the way it did when you deactivated. Many users deactivate their accounts for temporary reasons and expect their information to be there when they return to the service.
If you permanently delete your account, all personally identifiable information associated with your account will be purged from our database. This includes information like your name, email address, mailing address, and IM screen name. Copies of some material (photos, notes, etc.) may remain in our servers for technical reasons, but this material is disassociated from any personal identifiers and completely inaccessible to other users. Facebook also does not use content associated with accounts that have been deactivated or deleted.
Why they keep photos and notes for technical reasons would be beyond me. Maybe they don't have the means or are just too lazy to remove that. Like I said I never did the photo/note stuff. Was just looking for old friends from school.
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My husband "deleted" his FB account. He's still on my list of friends, and I can access his newsreel anytime I want - it's just not showing any new posts since the time he "deleted" it. I wonder if that delete transaction wasn't completed.
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wow I didnt realise we had so many marxists around here, apparently offering goods or services for profit is now evil! :lol
what exactly is "wrong" and needs "cracking down on"? :headscratch:
Whoa, whoa, obvious misquote there. Look at the end of the sentence! Are you being thick on purpose? I said that cracking down on these people would cause many problems!
Again, you are taking me very far out of context. Perhaps "what they are doing" is vague. I was attempting to say that really delving into somebody's personal life is wrong, and that it seems like you're ticking people off to make a quick buck.
-Penguin
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There is an article that was out just a few months ago about Military members having a FB account and how it can affect your TS and above security clearance if you have one. Just not worth jeopardizing your clearance to me and not only that if you never filled out an SF-86 form, its something of a task to say the least.
This is a similar article. http://www.scribd.com/doc/22482193/Social-Sites-Risk-Security-Clearance
Just another info gathering machine for the corporations or anyone for that matter to exploit.
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then why are my rates high? i've not had an "at fault accident since i was 24....i'm 47 now. no tickets, no notghing.
Some states allow insurance companies to use your credit score on determining an insurance policy, in oregon its allowed, 4 years ago my credit score was 550/600, paying $89 a month full coverage for one truck, today after really working to improve my credit score i pay 46 a month for 2 trucks and 1 boat, but my credit score is now mid 800's
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Good job! Hard work FTW!
-Penguin