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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Nemisis on March 06, 2010, 03:12:21 AM
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I'm looking to improve my piloting skills, particularly in the P-51B/D, the P-38, and the 190A5. Is there anyone in particular I should talk to (already know about Ack-Ack for the P-38)? I would like to spend around 6 months in each plane, learning their in's and out's, but I'm willing spend longer on each plane if it takes longer to become good in it.
My thinking is that if I know how to fly a few planes very well, then it will help with my ACM, and overall piloting in the rest of the set.
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The 51s i'd go to Steve, Strip and 0LDemon. SkatSr and dTango are not playing right now or i'd suggest them too. KrapGame is pretty good in a 51 too i think.
The 38s...AckAck,Pawz, Del, Shuffler,Soulyss...
The 190s i have no idea. I'd probably seek out JG77 for the German iron. :salute
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:old: :old:
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If you need P-51 help, talk to 0lDemon.
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KrapGame is pretty good in a 51 too i think.
Oh yeah, forgot about him. Dueled him to a standstill in my Yak-9U. At least till my parents said I had to log for the night.
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Pervert is great in 190D, so i bet he can handle A5 as well. That guy is upping 190D, when his field is capped and others take spixteens :lol
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for ponies just type .join steve over in over. Don't give up on the first try being persistent even if it takes the whole night. :D
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Ivan, how about we have our osti duel today? Do you want D500 or 1k?
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<jedi voice> you do not wish to duel in osies with me!
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<voice of jedi master pissed of at a padawan> do you realize that trick only works on people who are less awesome than you, and who aren't jedi?
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My thinking is that if I know how to fly a few planes very well, then it will help with my ACM, and overall piloting in the rest of the set.
Not only will it help overall. But the more planes you get to know. And the better you get to know them. The better prepared you are to be able to kill them when you are flying something else because you pretty much know first hand what their strengths and weaknesses are.
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190, shawk is good in it. Larry, Storch, JB11, JB15 and the other JB guys are too good in the 190.
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190, shawk is good in it. Larry, Storch, JB11, JB15 and the other JB guys are too good in the 190.
SHawk is primarily known for the D9. D9 and A5 are two differing AC. And while I have no doubt he could fly the A5 well. Id still seek out the JBs for advise on the a5
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rgr that drediock, ty.
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for ponies just type .join steve over in over. Don't give up on the first try being persistent even if it takes the whole night. :D
:rofl
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for ponies just type .join steve over in over. Don't give up on the first try being persistent even if it takes the whole night. :D
LMAO.. thanks for that... thanks so much.
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lol!!!
OK sunka, I'll spam steve with join requests. And when that doesn't work, I'll keep following him till he allows me to sit in on his flights.
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Im surprised nobody has said probably the most well known luft pilot in the game for questions about the 190A5........
Id go see Stampf for 190 training
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See JG/11 for Luftwaffe iron. They spend more time in LW craft then anyone.
Stampf excellent in 190s.
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See JG/11 for Luftwaffe iron. They spend more time in LW craft then anyone.
Stampf excellent in 190s.
I meant to say JG11. I was thinking of the squad VonMessa is in. :salute
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I was thinking of the squad VonMessa is in. :salute
That guy's such a loudmouth!
:noid
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All the planes are the same... fyi.
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That guy's such a loudmouth!
:noid
He's a Saint. :noid
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All the planes are the same... fyi.
Grizz is right, its all angles, E and SA in the long run
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No all planes are not the same :rolleyes: Junkydrama quit sucking up :lol You can fly a 262 like a A6m but i doubt you'll make back to your field. :salute
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German junk... just find Nath.
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No all planes are not the same :rolleyes: Junkydrama quit sucking up :lol You can fly a 262 like a A6m but i doubt you'll make back to your field. :salute
Of course planes are going to have their strong points but they all do the same things, some just better at certain spots. I fly spits,KIs,109s,38s, and hogs all almost in the exact same metter just because they are all pretty similar and middle of the road fighters
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No all planes are not the same :rolleyes: Junkydrama quit sucking up :lol You can fly a 262 like a A6m but i doubt you'll make back to your field. :salute
Not the extremes obviously. Sure, there are subtle differences in every ride but they are all of secondary importance. Primaries being ACM, angles, and throttle work. I don't care if I'm in a Yak9u or a Bf109K4, I'm going to fly the same way, perform the same maneuvers. Only difference will be I'll roll right with the torque at the tops of stalls in the yak.
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Not the extremes obviously. Sure, there are subtle differences in every ride but they are all of secondary importance. Primaries being ACM, angles, and throttle work. I don't care if I'm in a Yak9u or a Bf109K4, I'm going to fly the same way, perform the same maneuvers. Only difference will be I'll roll right with the torque at the tops of stalls in the yak.
I don't think you are going to pull the same moves off in a hurri MkI that you can in a 109 k4. Not enough engine to do those vert moves.
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I don't think you are going to pull the same moves off in a hurri MkI that you can in a 109 k4. Not enough engine to do those vert moves.
hurri1 vs hurri1 would be the same.
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Very true you can pull the same ACMs in any plane. But the degree you can do things vary. For instance, if my spit1 is same speed as K4 and we both do a double imbelman<spelling>, i know a K4 can out pull me so i won't go with him. I'll break off and try a different approach.
Anyway, what Grizz and Junky say is true..but to a certain extent is what i trying to say. I'm going back to the garage now and twist some wrenches :rock
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hurri1 vs hurri1 would be the same.
Your whole "they all the same" is a bit misleading.
You know very well you wouldn't attempt the same moves 109 k4 vs spit XVI compared to hurri mkI vs spit XVI.
Now would you?
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The moves are the same in every aircraft, you vary the moves just a little bit based on what plane you are in. If you don't know the moves to begin with i.e. >95% of people who fly this game and don't even know what a duel is, then it doesn't matter what you fly because you simply don't have the foundation of ACM knowledge it takes to win a fight in any airplane. That's why I say all airplanes are the same. Once you get to the point where both pilots in a fight are at the top of their game at even skill, then individual airplane strengths and weaknesses come into play.
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Grizz, are you telling me that it doesn't matter if a newb is in a temp or a spit 1 when he's fighting a vet in a 109F4?
IMO, being in the temp automaticly triples his chances of survival for the first 2 minutes.
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Grizz, are you telling me that it doesn't matter if a newb is in a temp or a spit 1 when he's fighting a vet in a 109F4?
IMO, being in the temp automaticly triples his chances of survival for the first 2 minutes.
Nah, I'm telling you that if you want to improve your piloting skills, it doesn't really matter what plane you do it in, the moves are the same for all planes. If you want to join us in the dueling arena, you are welcome, a bunch of us are always in there mixing it up on Vox290 later at night. Best way to get better is repetition. Light bulbs start to go off.
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Rgr that sir, always fun getting killed by your uber pwning Mossie.
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Nah, I'm telling you that if you want to improve your piloting skills, it doesn't really matter what plane you do it in, the moves are the same for all planes. Best way to get better is repetition. Light bulbs start to go off.
Spot on.
:aok
(edit: I think an "easy mode" plane is needed to learn the moves in the first place which is why I suggest a Spit 8 to new pilots. Once they have the fundamental basics down they should then broaden out to other rides.)
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OK gona sound stupid if there's an obvious answer to my question, but....
Does anyone know Stampf's, 0lDemon's, and and Shuffler's BB names, or if they even have a BB account?
If they do have one, I haven't seen them recently (in about 2 weeks at least) and so have forgotten they exist.
I'd seek out Ack-Ack for 38 training, but he and I are on at different times usually, so thats not an option.
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Spot on.
:aok
(edit: I think an "easy mode" plane is needed to learn the moves in the first place which is why I suggest a Spit 8 to new pilots. Once they have the fundamental basics down they should then broaden out to other rides.)
Dueling/training arena is the best place to get even fights that focus on the moves. And yes, like you said, fly the plane that gives you the ability to compete, like a golf handicap.
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OK gona sound stupid if there's an obvious answer to my question, but....
Does anyone know Stampf's, 0lDemon's, and and Shuffler's BB names, or if they even have a BB account?
If they do have one, I haven't seen them recently (in about 2 weeks at least) and so have forgotten they exist.
I'd seek out Ack-Ack for 38 training, but he and I are on at different times usually, so thats not an option.
I don't ever recall seeing 0LDemon posting on the BBS.
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I'd seek out Ack-Ack for 38 training, but he and I are on at different times usually, so thats not an option.
PM Murdr he'll set you up.
Or just find some of the 80th and ask nice if you can wing up with em. Great bunch and you'll learn a bit.
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Dueling/training arena is the best place to get even fights that focus on the moves. And yes, like you said, fly the plane that gives you the ability to compete, like a golf handicap.
Oh jeeze! Dont tell people that. Or in an arena with 400 players there will be 300 of em flyng spits ;)
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OK gona sound stupid if there's an obvious answer to my question, but....
Does anyone know Stampf's, 0lDemon's, and and Shuffler's BB names, or if they even have a BB account?
If they do have one, I haven't seen them recently (in about 2 weeks at least) and so have forgotten they exist.
I'd seek out Ack-Ack for 38 training, but he and I are on at different times usually, so thats not an option.
Shuffler will always be Shuffler. :)
Alternatively you're welcome to tag along with me if you see me in the MA we're on vox 138. About all I'm good at is demonstrating new and exciting ways to get shot at and getting wingmen killed but you're welcome to tag along for the ride. :)
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Rgr that soulyss, I'll go with whoever I find first. If its you, then I get the chance to die along side a P-38 ace.
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Nem,
You'd be lucky to have Souless teach you. I've watched his flying and gunning for several years...he's good.
Shuffler, AKAK, and several others previously named by others are also excellent.
-Rodent57
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People cling to Spits and never move off them just move to a higher ENY one like the 9, if they fly a 5 I wont say its easy mode....I would say a good starter would be the F6F, for 1 it doesnt have great 6 view which makes the pilot learn SA alot faster, has a good amount of ord, pretty good legs, good guns but no cannons which I think would help their aim alot, and its wings dont rip off :D
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Yes, but a lot of other planes can catch it, the spits (which are the majority of the planes flown) can out turn it, and it feels very heavy when loaded up with fuel and ord. And when you add in the fact that most new players have a very heavy hand on the controlls (or fly with mouses), it pretty much rapes all of its positive qualities.
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Yes, but a lot of other planes can catch it, the spits (which are the majority of the planes flown) can out turn it, and it feels very heavy when loaded up with fuel and ord. And when you add in the fact that most new players have a very heavy hand on the controlls (or fly with mouses), it pretty much rapes all of its positive qualities.
PSSST You spelled recruiting incorrectly.
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Thanks steve, I hadn't caught that.
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Nah, I'm telling you that if you want to improve your piloting skills, it doesn't really matter what plane you do it in, the moves are the same for all planes. If you want to join us in the dueling arena, you are welcome, a bunch of us are always in there mixing it up on Vox290 later at night. Best way to get better is repetition. Light bulbs start to go off.
i was having a good time in my a8 in the DA the other night ...
i think both are true ...
i.e. to a large extent what you are flying does not matter, but to some extent it does ...
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There is a large chunk of knowledge that can be pretty much universally applied across any plane in the game, however knowing what a specific plane will do at the edges of the envelope, and gaining the touch that lets you wring every last ounce of performance out of an airframe can only come with repetition and experience.
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There is a large chunk of knowledge that can be pretty much universally applied across any plane in the game, however knowing what a specific plane will do at the edges of the envelope, and gaining the touch that lets you wring every last ounce of performance out of an airframe can only come with repetition and experience.
You're right soulyss, much can be applied across the entire plane line up. You also need to know when to employ certian manuvers, and which ones work well in wich planes, in addition to learning the little tricks that can give you that small edge in a fight, wich can only be learned through expirences.