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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: grizz441 on March 12, 2010, 03:34:46 PM
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I read the release notes and I didn't see any mention of fires occurring in a different set of criteria now. I landed my Ta152H on the first night of the patch without a gear and after my wing ripped off (I prefer to land with just my fuselage :)), my plane caught on fire. Out of the hundreds of gear less crash landings I have made in the Ta152, I have never seen it catch fire before and thought this was too huge of a coincidence.
In addition to that, while I'm not 100%, witnessed what seemed to be a Spitfire ripping his wing off in a high speed, high G turn in which he then caught on fire.
Since I had never seen either of these things happen before in god knows how many hours I have played, I ask if the new patch code caused this or I have to chalk this up to bizarre astronomical alignments?
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Now that you mention it I saw someone do a belly landing last night at a Vbase and also caught on fire.
Thought it odd at the time as there were no nme near and wasn't on fire before they landed.
Bug? or Feature?
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+1 for not making any veiled threats to stomp off the playground ;)
No doubt this issue is a result of the recent updates. As much of a drag as catching fire in the game is, I do believe it was a very real hazard to combat pilots in WW1 and 2, so having it play a bit more prominent role in game might not be a bad thing but certainly dont want to see it end up happening frequently. Could really spoil gameplay.
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I was able to reproduce this at my first try. Land without tire, plane on fire!
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Fire, good!
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this was happening with the LA7 model since it got redone....
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Lol, yeah I'm not complaining I think it is very cool and puts an emphasis on landing with gear! But, it wasn't included in the release notes, hence this thread.
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Belly Landings and catching on fire has happened multiple times to me in the last few months. I feel that it is not related to the newest update & consequent patches IMHO.
However I saw this in the latest patch info. Makes me curious as to what & when?
•Fixed an issue that caused WW2 planes to fly too fast.
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Belly Landings and catching on fire has happened multiple times to me in the last few months. I feel that it is not related to the newest update & consequent patches IMHO.
However I saw this in the latest patch info. Makes me curious as to what & when?
•Fixed an issue that caused WW2 planes to fly too fast.
I know they had set it up for some certain planes. The only thing I can personally question is a change done to the Ta152 specifically, as I mentioned, I had never seen it before and I have belly landed that thing very hard hundreds of times before this patch, and no fires.
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tried a few offline and all caught on fire but did not explode.
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Does it also catch fire if you belly land on grass?
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Fire only changed on ww1 stuff. TA152 has had no changes.
HiTech
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Fire only changed on ww1 stuff. TA152 has had no changes.
HiTech
Very strange then. :headscratch:
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•Fixed an issue that caused WW2 planes to fly too fast.
So when I think my F4U1A has gotten slow compared to before the update, that's not just my imagination?
I remember first flight it felt like accelerating alot slower, and top speed while level also seemed lower I think..?
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Grizz...were you leaking fuel when you landed?
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So when I think my F4U1A has gotten slow compared to before the update, that's not just my imagination?
I remember first flight it felt like accelerating alot slower, and top speed while level also seemed lower I think..?
Between Wednesday and today, WWII aircraft have been flying about 30mph faster than they're supposed to. Now they fly like they used to before Wednesday.
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Grizz...were you leaking fuel when you landed?
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Between Wednesday and today, WWII aircraft have been flying about 30mph faster than they're supposed to. Now they fly like they used to before Wednesday.
Hmm, strange.. I just feel like my hog is falling behind now compared to earlier, before Wednesday even.. So it was just my imagination after all then. :noid
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Think it has to do w/ the new runway modeling?
(just thought about that)
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I noticed belly landing speeds have an effect on whether you catch fire or not. At 150 in the LA-7 you almost always catch fire. At 100 not so much.
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seem like any plane that belly lands catchs on fire in lw ma
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I haven't flown much recently, but my squad noticed that it seems to take more fire to inflict damage on enemy aircraft in WWII now. I wonder if this is a lag issue possibly caused by whatever is killing the SEA, or an effect of the new damage modeling.
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Any ideas yet? :headscratch:
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I personally haven't noticed much difference in WWII. The 1A handles just as she did before, and Spits still go down if you sneeze on their wings.
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I personally haven't noticed much difference in WWII. The 1A handles just as she did before, and Spits still go down if you sneeze on their wings.
Neither have I, I know for a fact though there is something different regarding fires based off experience. If I do the exact same thing for a year straight with no fires and then on the first night of the patch I do it and I get a fire, I know something is different. I know my planes well :)
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Think it has to do w/ the new runway modeling?
(just thought about that)
Sry I missed this.
I would doubt that HTC coded actual bumps into the runway, and it's just an added effect when you have wheels down, regardless of the surface you roll on. That's just a guess though and it may entirely have to do with this. All I know is something is different!
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Me and BigRat met in the TA and was doing some F4U1D 1 on 1 stuff........
I went to ditch in the water.... was around 115/100 mph and I caught fire in the water......
was weirdest thing we both had ever seen.....
got film if needed
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Me and BigRat met in the TA and was doing some F4U1D 1 on 1 stuff........
I went to ditch in the water.... was around 115/100 mph and I caught fire in the water......
was weirdest thing we both had ever seen.....
got film if needed
Can you please post it TC?
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sure thing.....it's gonna take me a lil while to get round to it.will edit my post above and include the link....
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strange stuff for sure, but maybe more realistic? I mean, it's not often a real plane can belly land at 100-150mph without serious risk. Perhaps do some tests belly landing at much slower speeds? what speed were you at in the 152 Grizz, any ideas? Realisticaly I would be crapping my pants about landing a real plane belly style at even 60mph.
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strange stuff for sure, but maybe more realistic? I mean, it's not often a real plane can belly land at 100-150mph without serious risk. Perhaps do some tests belly landing at much slower speeds? what speed were you at in the 152 Grizz, any ideas? Realisticaly I would be crapping my pants about landing a real plane belly style at even 60mph.
I was at the same speed I have belly landed at for my entire cartoon existence. I usually come in so hard that both wings rip off leaving only a sliding fuselage. It would be cool if it was an added feature, it puts more emphasis on landing with a gear, right now there's really no benefit with landing with one unless you want to rearm. But since it wasn't mentioned in the release notes and Hitech said it wasn't an added feature, it makes me believe this is a serious bug. I bet it will be addressed in Patch 3.
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Fire only changed on ww1 stuff. TA152 has had no changes.
HiTech
Wow! You spelled everything right, including your name!! :D
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I was flyin in my F4U-1A the other day and i got hit by a typhoon. The only thing that was hit was the engine oil but then the controls became unresponsive and the plane rolled to the left and the wing flew off. Is this normal?
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I was at the same speed I have belly landed at for my entire cartoon existence. I usually come in so hard that both wings rip off leaving only a sliding fuselage. It would be cool if it was an added feature, it puts more emphasis on landing with a gear, right now there's really no benefit with landing with one unless you want to rearm. But since it wasn't mentioned in the release notes and Hitech said it wasn't an added feature, it makes me believe this is a serious bug. I bet it will be addressed in Patch 3.
Certainly! I just wondered if you could estimate the usual speed. Reason being that in WWI arena if you try to ditch at anything over 60mph you are in for trouble. The gear usualy breaks and a few seconds later you are in the tower. Just wondering if this damage model has accidentaly (or intentionaly) been set for the entire program and not just WWI.
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Certainly! I just wondered if you could estimate the usual speed. Reason being that in WWI arena if you try to ditch at anything over 60mph you are in for trouble. The gear usualy breaks and a few seconds later you are in the tower. Just wondering if this damage model has accidentaly (or intentionaly) been set for the entire program and not just WWI.
I'd estimate 115-130. As soon as my needle gets underneath 150, I start to initiate the crash landing sequence.
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Has the P-51D been changed? I was chased down by a F4U-1A in level flight. I had alt and was at wing creaking speed at the time. It took about a half sector to catch me but he did catch up. Not much catches up to a pony at that speed.
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Has the P-51D been changed? I was chased down by a F4U-1A in level flight. I had alt and was at wing creaking speed at the time. It took about a half sector to catch me but he did catch up. Not much catches up to a pony at that speed.
This thread has nothing to do with this, please start your own thread if you think the max cruise speeds got changed.
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I'd estimate 115-130. As soon as my needle gets underneath 150, I start to initiate the crash landing sequence.
gotcha.
i did a few test for 10 minutes just out of curiosity. Quite interesting results. All tests conducted in the TA with current update.
152 crash tests (http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/_152_crashing.ahf) - film link 2mb .ahf
Crash 1 - 00:15 - Speed: 80mph - Surface: Grass - Impact: very soft - Result: left wing broken and fire started
Crash 2 - 01:15 - Speed: 125mph - Surface: Tarmac - Impact: very soft - Result: no structural, no fire
Crash 3 - 02:23 - Speed: 90mph - Surface: Tarmac - Impact: very soft - Result: no structural, no fire
Crash 4 - 04:05 - Speed: 250mph - Surface: Tarmac - Impact: soft - Result: instant death, no fire
Crash 5 - 05:17 - Speed: 195mph - Surface: Tarmac - Impact: soft - Result: instant death, no fire
Crash 6 - 06:00 - Speed: 125mph - Surface: Tarmac - Impact: soft - result: no structural, no fire
Crash 7 - 06:45 - Speed: 100mph - Surface: Tarmac to grass - Impact: hard wing first cartwheel to slide - Result: both wings broken, fire started. Sat burning for 1.5 mins, did not die.
Crash 8 - 08:55 - Speed: 100mph - Surface: Tarmac - Impact: hard inverted - Result: heavy structural failiure, no fire
Crash 9 - 09:55 - Speed 135mph - Surface: Tarmac - Impact: very hard inverted - Result: instant death, no fire
So, without intending to test this part, it seems the only time a fire was produced was when coming into contact with grass. Though of course this was quite possibly coincidence. The highest survivable speed was 125mph although did not test between 125-150 etc.. 100mph inverted landing was no problem for the pilot to survive. Yet 80mph very soft landing on grass caused a fire and broken wing. NOTE: no fire was visible from the cockpit internal view at any time. Clearly the grass thing might not be an issue because i assume you were landing on tarmac when it happened.
strange results, not sure if they help at all,. Was fun to crash 9 times though :)
S!
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The few times I didnt die outright last night, I bellied what was left of the "N" in a few times at 150-ish...nothin unusual happened
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Interesting batfink. Yes I was on the pavement when I was lit en fuego.
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A8 used to have a bug...belly damaged on runway (ANY sort of damage)...if you dawdled, plane exploded
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Very strange then. :headscratch:
Gremlins...... :noid
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I was flyin in my F4U-1A the other day and i got hit by a typhoon. The only thing that was hit was the engine oil but then the controls became unresponsive and the plane rolled to the left and the wing flew off. Is this normal?
branch, i heard this may be a bug also and happening in a bunch of planes.
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Just my little observation. Was flying the other night and in 3 different cases someone was belly landing in front of me and poof instant mach. 1 on a carrier and 2 on fields. I don't recall ever seeing so many fires from landings. Maybe I'm just seeing things but at the time it seemed odd.
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I was flyin in my F4U-1A the other day and i got hit by a typhoon. The only thing that was hit was the engine oil but then the controls became unresponsive and the plane rolled to the left and the wing flew off. Is this normal?
Go offline. Shoot a drone and see what happens now instead of it exploding. It will roll shed a wing and go down. Is this what happened to you?
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Has the P-51D been changed? I was chased down by a F4U-1A in level flight. I had alt and was at wing creaking speed at the time. It took about a half sector to catch me but he did catch up. Not much catches up to a pony at that speed.
This thread has nothing to do with this, please start your own thread if you think the max cruise speeds got changed.
don't listen to Grizz, you can talk about this all u want in this thread. You have my permission. :aok
Edit: as a matter of fact, I hereby declare that this is what this thread is about and Grizz can go start his own.
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A8 used to have a bug...belly damaged on runway (ANY sort of damage)...if you dawdled, plane exploded
its still there, and for all 190s if you belly land, even with NO damage at all, you will vibrate for a while and then instant death.
And something is screwed up.. I took a single ping in the wing of a 51b only damage listed was to 1 gun, but all controls froze and the plane began shaking violently,.. then the wing fell off. .. then I caught fire..
already posted film in other thread titled "something isnt right"
had a similar situation in a D9.. took a hit lost my right aileron, but also lost all control of the plane.. then a few seconds later the propeller broke and both landing gear fell off.. never regained control.