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Title: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: JunkyII on March 17, 2010, 07:26:35 AM
If your Ranger Tabbed LT asks you to run with him....DONT GO he will break you off then hand it back.....then break you off again.

60-120s for 5 miles at his pace has me hurting like a Marine after a fight with an Infantrymen :D

Time to go eat breakfast and throw it back up :rock

 :salute
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: lowZX14 on March 17, 2010, 07:44:47 AM
Must not have felt much pain then.  :aok

If you eat then throw it back up something is wrong my friend, just remember pain is weakness leaving the body and you'll be ok.
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: JunkyII on March 17, 2010, 08:03:22 AM
Must not have felt much pain then.  :aok

If you eat then throw it back up something is wrong my friend, just remember pain is weakness leaving the body and you'll be ok.
Yea well I missed dinner chow last night due to my addiction to Aces High :D I cant PT on a completely empty stomach I guess.

But I am in alot of pain........like a Marine after a 2 mile run  :devil
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: Treize69 on March 17, 2010, 08:13:18 AM
...pain is weakness leaving the body...

I've always said it as 'Pain is just the body's way of reminding you that you're in horrible, horrible agony.'
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: uptown on March 17, 2010, 08:17:49 AM
ARMY= Ain't Ready for Marines Yet  :D

I didn't get warmed up until the 3 mile mark.  :rock Damn i felt so good back then.  :lol
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: VonMessa on March 17, 2010, 08:32:43 AM
If your Ranger Tabbed LT asks you to run with him....DONT GO he will break you off then hand it back.....then break you off again.

60-120s for 5 miles at his pace has me hurting like a Marine after a fight with an Infantrymen :D

Time to go eat breakfast and throw it back up :rock

 :salute

You knew he was tabbed and you accepted anyway?  A Lt. no less (= young).   :rofl

That was all your own fault.  You deserve what you get         :D
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: uptown on March 17, 2010, 08:37:12 AM


But I am in alot of pain........like a Marine after a 2 mile run  :devil
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/military01.gif)
hehe
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: soda72 on March 17, 2010, 10:16:43 AM
ARMY= Ain't Ready for Marines Yet  :D

I didn't get warmed up until the 3 mile mark.  :rock Damn i felt so good back then.  :lol

no ARMY = Ain't Released Me Yet...

 :neener:
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: Reaper90 on March 17, 2010, 10:42:46 AM
If your Ranger Tabbed LT asks you to run with him....DONT GO he will break you off then hand it back.....then break you off again.

60-120s for 5 miles at his pace has me hurting like a Marine after a fight with an Infantrymen :D

Time to go eat breakfast and throw it back up :rock

 :salute

LOL Junky! I used to laugh at my lil' bro when he was a Ranger, he could run for days. 5,6, 7 miles.... they used to do 20 mile road marches with 100 lbs or so of gear. He was like the freaking energizer bunny when he ran, this from a kid who a couple of years earlier in HS couldn't run to the end of the street without coughing up a lung (too much partying and smoking). So one day, not long after he was back from Somolia, he was at home on leave. I was home from college (rare thing at the same time). He had on his Ranger t-shirt and shorts, and took off running a wide-a** open sprint down the street. So a while passes, a long while. Almost an hour later he comes running up the highway from the other direction, still running almost just as fast as when he left. He stopped, walked around the yard for a minute, then sat down on the steps and smoked a cigarette. I was pretty much in disbelief. Dad asked him where the heck he ran for so long, and when he (dad) drove it in the car he told me later it came to almost 7 miles round trip. And had a freakin smoke when he was done. Craziest s*** I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: JunkyII on March 17, 2010, 11:03:41 AM
LOL Junky! I used to laugh at my lil' bro when he was a Ranger, he could run for days. 5,6, 7 miles.... they used to do 20 mile road marches with 100 lbs or so of gear. He was like the freaking energizer bunny when he ran, this from a kid who a couple of years earlier in HS couldn't run to the end of the street without coughing up a lung (too much partying and smoking). So one day, not long after he was back from Somolia, he was at home on leave. I was home from college (rare thing at the same time). He had on his Ranger t-shirt and shorts, and took off running a wide-a** open sprint down the street. So a while passes, a long while. Almost an hour later he comes running up the highway from the other direction, still running almost just as fast as when he left. He stopped, walked around the yard for a minute, then sat down on the steps and smoked a cigarette. I was pretty much in disbelief. Dad asked him where the heck he ran for so long, and when he (dad) drove it in the car he told me later it came to almost 7 miles round trip. And had a freakin smoke when he was done. Craziest s*** I've ever seen.
I can run for days at my own pace(I score perfect on the run everytime for PT tests), but when Im running above my pace while we jogged for 1min 20 seconds....then sprinted 60 seconds....it just killed me. When the whole sqaud got back we did an ab workout that really didnt help, everyone picked a different ab workout and we did 50 reps of it....Of course my sqaud leader picks "Frog legs" :cry
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: jdbecks on March 17, 2010, 11:32:26 AM
Real men become Combat Engineers  :neener:
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: soda72 on March 17, 2010, 11:51:25 AM
Real men become Combat Engineers  :neener:

Then you have to lie to women to get laid...

 :)
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: RufusLeaking on March 17, 2010, 11:58:18 AM
Real men become Combat Engineers  :neener:
Aren't these the guys who hit a land mine with a hammer to check if it is a dud?

Sorry. Old joke.

Like the one:  What does it mean when you see a pin fly through the air?  There is a Marine with a grenade in his mouth.

Interservice rivalry.  I miss the old days.

Regarding advice for Army recruits, study up and join the Air Force. :salute
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: WWhiskey on March 17, 2010, 11:59:01 AM
If your Ranger Tabbed LT asks you to run with him....DONT GO he will break you off then hand it back.....then break you off again.

60-120s for 5 miles at his pace has me hurting like a Marine after a fight with an Infantrymen :D

Time to go eat breakfast and throw it back up :rock

 :salute
oh the good ole days!! i remember them well, good luck!
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: jdbecks on March 17, 2010, 12:22:03 PM
Aren't these the guys who hit a land mine with a hammer to check if it is a dud?

Sorry. Old joke.

Like the one:  What does it mean when you see a pin fly through the air?  There is a Marine with a grenade in his mouth.

Interservice rivalry.  I miss the old days.

Regarding advice for Army recruits, study up and join the Air Force. :salute

 :rofl :rofl

Yeah I wish I was told that when I joined the Army, the airforce is the way to go  :)

Although I had such a good time in the army and not a day goes by where I do not miss the army...either through fond memory's or just from the pain from my knackered hip  :lol
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: xbrit on March 17, 2010, 02:09:14 PM
WE have the best of both worlds, I'm ex RAF and my son is now Army.
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: Selino631 on March 17, 2010, 02:32:25 PM
If your Ranger Tabbed LT asks you to run with him....DONT GO he will break you off then hand it back.....then break you off again.

60-120s for 5 miles at his pace has me hurting like a Marine after a fight with an Infantrymen :D

Time to go eat breakfast and throw it back up :rock

 :salute
 :lol i will keep this in mind

Just about 4 months left woot!
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: JunkyII on March 17, 2010, 03:24:12 PM
 :lol i will keep this in mind

Just about 4 months left woot!
4 months jeez boi get in the game already :)
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: USRanger on March 17, 2010, 03:27:04 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: JunkyII on March 17, 2010, 03:34:26 PM
:cheers:
Rangers have no souls!!! :t


The R.I.s take them from you :noid

 :D :cheers: :salute

btw Ranger, you got 2 combat jumps? I had a SSG who made 2 of the jumps but Im not sure which ones, I thought there had been 3 in the recent wars.
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: jdbecks on March 17, 2010, 04:00:30 PM
Rangers have no souls!!! :t


The R.I.s take them from you :noid

 :D :cheers: :salute

btw Ranger, you got 2 combat jumps? I had a SSG who made 2 of the jumps but Im not sure which ones, I thought there had been 3 in the recent wars.

Did you  guys not drop into Kandahar and fallujah?
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: OSU on March 17, 2010, 07:39:00 PM
Did you  guys not drop into Kandahar and fallujah?

I may be wrong here, and I'm not in the military, and I won't be for another 6 years hopefully, (high school, college with ROTC, then Marines) but I don't think the Rangers dropped into Fallujah, I'm pretty sure that was a Marine battle. I know that they dropped into Kandahar.
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: Selino631 on March 17, 2010, 10:06:17 PM
4 months jeez boi get in the game already :)
haha I got to graduate High School first lol

Hell if I could have i would have left in my freshman year
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: Slash27 on March 18, 2010, 02:44:25 AM
Then you have to lie to women to get laid...

 :)

bazinga!
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: uptown on March 18, 2010, 06:27:53 AM
This has me wondering what the major differences are between Rangers and Green Berets. I'm thinking that the Green Berets are the elite forces from the Rangers. Is this correct?
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: SmokinLoon on March 18, 2010, 06:42:08 AM
Did anyone else see the recent article regarding the changes coming forth in the US Army's basic and advanced training?  Instead of the numerous long runs and marches, the army will be loading down the troops and having them do shorter runs.  This is to help condition the body for the heavy loads of body armor/combat gear, and the shorter sprints that are more common in urban environments.  I will have to find the article, it was an interesting read.
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: JunkyII on March 18, 2010, 07:14:58 AM
Did anyone else see the recent article regarding the changes coming forth in the US Army's basic and advanced training?  Instead of the numerous long runs and marches, the army will be loading down the troops and having them do shorter runs.  This is to help condition the body for the heavy loads of body armor/combat gear, and the shorter sprints that are more common in urban environments.  I will have to find the article, it was an interesting read.
Army Times, yea I read it....honestly with the Army every line unit is different so its almost better they dont learn too much in Basic....just come to the line in good shape and a good shot

This has me wondering what the major differences are between Rangers and Green Berets. I'm thinking that the Green Berets are the elite forces from the Rangers. Is this correct?
Rangers are a highly funded, more disciplined Infantry unit...they are the the so called BEST of the Infantry. SF does alot of this counter insurgency training and gorilla tactics, making them probably our best weapon in the Wars going on. Alot of Rangers I met are good at being a soldier, but when it came to being smart about how to treat people, they werent at the top of that list.


Honestly they are both a different type of Special Operations :salute
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: VonMessa on March 18, 2010, 07:23:17 AM
This has me wondering what the major differences are between Rangers and Green Berets. I'm thinking that the Green Berets are the elite forces from the Rangers. Is this correct?


For a quick and dirty cut/paste answer (that is mostly accurate)


"Green Berets" are Non-commisioned officers that have passed the Special Forces Assessment and Selection program and reclassified into an 18-series MOS upon completion of the Special Forces Qualification Course. they are generally assigned to one of the 5 active duty groups upon completion of training. There are also currently 2 Special Forces Groups in the National Guard force structure.

"Army Rangers" are members of the army assigned to the 75th Ranger Regiment either in headquarters or in one of the three Ranger BNs. Members of this unit go through a Ranger Indoctrination Program before being assigned, and if found lacking motivation or ability, they are released back to the needs of the army. Not all members of the unit are "Ranger qualified"--meaning that they have not successfully completed Ranger School...but this is generally understood to be a requirement for promotion to Sergeant in the Regiment.

Many "Green Berets" are "Ranger Qualified" or "Ranger tabbed" but the focus and mission profile of Special Forces Groups and the 75th Ranger Regiment differ in rather extreme ways.
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: JunkyII on March 18, 2010, 07:26:05 AM
Selection.........I heard that is a suck fest that puts Ranger school to shame
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: uptown on March 18, 2010, 07:31:04 AM
So if i'm reading this correctly, one doesn't have to got through Ranger school before being selected to the Green Berets?
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: VonMessa on March 18, 2010, 07:38:21 AM
So if i'm reading this correctly, one doesn't have to got through Ranger school before being selected to the Green Berets?

By definition, you are correct, but it helps.  So does airborne school.

But you had better be one bad muthaf%#&@r.

There aren't too many non-tabbed Leggs in the special forces    :noid
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: JunkyII on March 18, 2010, 11:04:33 AM
By definition, you are correct, but it helps.  So does airborne school.

But you had better be one bad muthaf%#&@r.

There aren't too many non-tabbed Leggs in the special forces    :noid
Theres a PSG in my company that has an SF tab.


Only 3 ways to leave SF.......Dead/injured......kicked out.......or wife ack :D
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: USRanger on March 18, 2010, 03:42:31 PM
I only have a minute, but I'll be back this evening to answer all the questions in this thread. :salute
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: jdbecks on March 18, 2010, 04:13:42 PM
I only have a minute, but I'll be back this evening to answer all the questions in this thread. :salute

Its already been answered :D   Combat Engineers are the best  :rock
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: Scherf on March 18, 2010, 06:16:20 PM
How many of those jog 120 sprint 60 reps does one do?
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: 68ZooM on March 18, 2010, 09:00:28 PM
Its already been answered :D   Combat Engineers are the best  :rock

My Father was a combat engineer Btry B 11th AAA (AW)(SP) Bn  8 yrs stationed overseas, he told me alot of amazing stories, one thing he always laughed about, is when he went one way they others would always be going the opposite direction, before he passed he left me with his complete footlocker, after his passing i opened it, it was rather emotional for me, but after that day i was never so more proud of my Father and his service to our country, my sons highschool flight teacher a retired commander from the airforce has written for all my Fathers records and citations and medals, included will be the American Flag in a wooden case along with his medals, i was very touched that this commander made sure my father is recognized for his service.  you got to respect our servicemen and women, all branches  :salute god bless you all
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: gyrene81 on March 18, 2010, 10:45:31 PM
How many of those jog 120 sprint 60 reps does one do?
In the Army...however many it takes to complete the full distance...in miles.

We didn't do such things in the Corps...except of our own accord...it was generally full combat gear and and run at a pace where you could run as long as you had to without being dead when you stopped...or wait for the 1stSgt to lead the run in t-shirt and shorts then jog/walk 3 miles...before breakfast. If you weren't properly hydrated (i.e. got drunk the night before) and it was full combat gear, just make sure you were in the back of the pack so you could blow chunks without getting it on anyone else.


 :salute Junky
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: Scherf on March 19, 2010, 02:33:50 AM
Ah, gotcha. Thanks for that.

Have been doing run 200, jog 200, run 400, jog 200, run 600, jog 2 mins for a bit now. Trying to do a Masters 400 or 800 this season.

Not sure I get to 5 miles tho.
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: JunkyII on March 19, 2010, 04:59:29 AM
In the Army...however many it takes to complete the full distance...in miles.

We didn't do such things in the Corps...except of our own accord...it was generally full combat gear and and run at a pace where you could run as long as you had to without being dead when you stopped...or wait for the 1stSgt to lead the run in t-shirt and shorts then jog/walk 3 miles...before breakfast. If you weren't properly hydrated (i.e. got drunk the night before) and it was full combat gear, just make sure you were in the back of the pack so you could blow chunks without getting it on anyone else.


 :salute Junky
We call this combat fucosed PT, or if we going runnning with rucks on its a ruck run. Personally Id rather run with my ruck on and just get the darn thing over with lol

Its already been answered :D   Combat Engineers are the best  :rock
So who pulls guard around yall when you set up FOBs/COBs....or do you even set them up ;)
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: Plawranc on March 19, 2010, 05:18:10 AM
Hehe, Australian air force cadets. Up 5 miles to the top of mount crawford in full pack at 5-30 in the morning.

I looked like  :rolleyes: by the time we got to the bottom.  :D
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: JunkyII on March 19, 2010, 07:19:34 AM
Hehe, Australian air force cadets. Up 5 miles to the top of mount crawford in full pack at 5-30 in the morning.

I looked like  :rolleyes: by the time we got to the bottom.  :D
I can do that at m own pace......try running with a young Ranger.....hard
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: TOMCAT21 on March 20, 2010, 12:19:39 AM
Always remember this: An officer is only as good as his NCO's. Officers do the planning but the NCO's make sure it is executed. That's my advice.
Tomahawk45 out !<S>
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: Shifty on March 20, 2010, 12:39:24 AM
Then you have to lie to women to get laid...

 :)

You mean you're not supposed to lie to them to get laid?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: JunkyII on March 20, 2010, 10:20:03 AM
Always remember this: An officer is only as good as his NCO's. Officers do the planning but the NCO's make sure it is executed. That's my advice.
Tomahawk45 out !<S>
Thats true, Officers need to just stay in the platoon CP whenever its time to get something done :D
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: Yenny on March 20, 2010, 05:23:16 PM
It sux to tell JOE, I know we have 8 hrs sleep in last 4 days but we should be on RnR soon xD
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: Penguin on March 20, 2010, 06:25:31 PM
Army Times, yea I read it....honestly with the Army every line unit is different so its almost better they dont learn too much in Basic....just come to the line in good shape and a good shot
Rangers are a highly funded, more disciplined Infantry unit...they are the the so called BEST of the Infantry. SF does alot of this counter insurgency training and gorillasic [guerrila] tactics, making them probably our best weapon in the Wars going on. Alot of Rangers I met are good at being a soldier, but when it came to being smart about how to treat people, they werent at the top of that list.


Honestly they are both a different type of Special Operations :salute

Fixed.

-Penguin
Title: Re: Advice for future recruits in US Army.
Post by: Selino631 on March 20, 2010, 06:28:09 PM
Always remember this: An officer is only as good as his NCO's. Officers do the planning but the NCO's make sure it is executed. That's my advice.
Tomahawk45 out !<S>
<S> Tomcat hope your doing well in Afghanistan