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Title: Ive noticed something...
Post by: BigR on March 23, 2010, 11:07:41 PM
Maybe i am crazy, but ever since the patch I have been racking up a ton of assists. I usually fly a plane with primarily 50cals, and it seems that even if I put a ridiculous amount of ammo into someone, I will not get the kill. I have noticed somewhat of a pattern. I dont know if I am just crazy or what, but maybe some of you have noticed it too. If someone puts just a little damage into a plane, but they are the first to do so, they seem to have a much better chance at getting a kill, even if their damage was not catastrophic, and even if someone comes a long later and puts a greater amount of damage into the target. I have noticed a few times that I barely hit someone, and then I end up getting the kill for them later. Maybe it is all a coincidence, maybe there is nothing there. I dont know..i figured i would mention it in case anyone else has been experiencing this since the patch.
Title: Re: Ive noticed something...
Post by: Kermit de frog on March 23, 2010, 11:15:35 PM
I've shot up planes only to have someone buzz by, place a few pings which sets the plane on fire, then get the kills while I don't get as much as an assist message.  By a long standing habit, I don't initiate attacks upon visibly damaged planes.
Title: Re: Ive noticed something...
Post by: BigR on March 23, 2010, 11:24:38 PM
I hear ya, but something just doesn't seem right to me. Thats the thing..I'm not talking about only visibly damaged planes. I am talking about planes that hardly have any damage at all, and I come in and totally annihilate them, and just get the assist. Most of the time its against planes that I didn't think were hit at all.
Title: Re: Ive noticed something...
Post by: oakranger on March 23, 2010, 11:52:08 PM
I notices some GVs that i bomb die slower.  For example, drop a 1,000 lb right next to a panzer and then he dies about 10 sec later.
Title: Re: Ive noticed something...
Post by: Ardy123 on March 23, 2010, 11:52:30 PM
It happens to me all the time. The most frustrating is when I hit them with a tater & take out their engine, then someone else flys by and kills the dead-stick plane and gets the kill. Also, I've had it happen where I tater some planes wing off, and someone else gets the kill because they put some minor pings in it (but nothing damaging) long before I ever shot the guy.
Title: Re: Ive noticed something...
Post by: TW9 on March 24, 2010, 12:12:39 AM
quit attacking planes that already have 6 or 7 dudes on them.. it will increase your odds of getting a kill.. trust me.
Title: Re: Ive noticed something...
Post by: 321BAR on March 24, 2010, 01:41:15 AM
has anyone else shot down planes and not scored kills? its happened to me once or twice. shot a wing off and nobody else touches it and it goes down without scoring me a kill. :huh
Title: Re: Ive noticed something...
Post by: Greziz on March 24, 2010, 02:49:48 AM
I have noticed that after pinging a cockpit once or twice in a 39 I will get the kill much later when he is run down my sneaking suspicion is with the new kill system a pilot wounded target that was wounded by you will be awarded to you even if some one else mauls him dead much like removing a wing or stabilizer will auto give you the kill even if some one would zip in and explode him.
Title: Re: Ive noticed something...
Post by: BigR on March 24, 2010, 03:03:11 AM
quit attacking planes that already have 6 or 7 dudes on them.. it will increase your odds of getting a kill.. trust me.

I usually fight in furballs, and i usually try to ignore guys who are overwhelmed, in fact im usually one of the guys being ganged. That was my whole point..I have been playing this game for a long time, and I can tell when something is "off".
Title: Re: Ive noticed something...
Post by: maddafinga on March 24, 2010, 07:39:52 AM
I usually fight in furballs, and i usually try to ignore guys who are overwhelmed, in fact im usually one of the guys being ganged. That was my whole point..I have been playing this game for a long time, and I can tell when something is "off".

Yeah BigR isn't a noob at all or a pick and zoom type of a guy.  I remember him from old AW even.  I was always getting him and BigT mixed up for a while there when I first started.  (Then I took a decade off...)

I don't know that something is off for certain, I felt like something definitely was before patch 3, I was hosing guys with taters and they were still flying around with no real problem, or taking a couple of bbs and crashing.  That stopped, but I rarely use the .50cal birds, so I haven't seen what you describe.  Things seem much more normal to me now.  I have shot the tail off a couple of planes only to have them keep on flying around, but no film, so I can't say that it wasn't only a combination of my viewpoint and self delusion of some sort. 

See if you can find a good example of it on film BigR. 
Title: Re: Ive noticed something...
Post by: LLogann on March 24, 2010, 07:47:04 AM
I haven't been flying enough these last two months to notice anything really......  But it does seem like many a stick is talking about it. 

As maddafinga points out though..... Let's see some films!
Title: Re: Ive noticed something...
Post by: oakranger on March 24, 2010, 08:28:22 AM
has anyone else shot down planes and not scored kills? its happened to me once or twice. shot a wing off and nobody else touches it and it goes down without scoring me a kill. :huh

It has happen to me twice
Title: Re: Ive noticed something...
Post by: waystin2 on March 24, 2010, 08:35:16 AM
Here is my observation on the high level of assists.  In a furball planes get sprayed by multiple cons in the course of the furball causing minimal damage.  Eventually someone gets a perceived killing shot in, but by that time enough damage has been done to the plane that someone else is gonna get the kill.  I tend to get straight up kills as opposed to assists when I am not in a high concentration of friendly and enemy planes.  I think it is the nature of a large furball that causes this.  MY .02

Title: Re: Ive noticed something...
Post by: LLogann on March 24, 2010, 08:40:35 AM
Does a PW count towards the cutoff? (cutoff = major damage to plane & no more people get a credit)
Title: Re: Ive noticed something...
Post by: dkff49 on March 24, 2010, 10:33:56 AM
I have never had it happen that I did not ever get the kill but have witnessed several times that getting the assist/kill message was delayed by several seconds even though I watched him explode right in front of me. There has been times that I have engaged another con before getting the assist/kill message.
Title: Re: Ive noticed something...
Post by: Hap on March 24, 2010, 10:44:06 AM
Take the 1st bite. 
Title: Re: Ive noticed something...
Post by: Reschke on March 25, 2010, 09:25:01 AM
I notices some GVs that i bomb die slower.  For example, drop a 1,000 lb right next to a panzer and then he dies about 10 sec later.

Net lag....that has been what I have seen a lot of lately.
Title: Re: Ive noticed something...
Post by: smoe on March 25, 2010, 11:07:24 AM
Actually I've been flying the 47M at high altitudes lately. When I put the smack down on another plane I usually don't follow him/her to the deck. I will let friendly fighters finish them off. I usually get the kill 3/4 of the time. I'm pretty good at landing rounds in the fuselage area without any visual damage. So you are probably hitting on some sloppy seconds. :neener: