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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: PJ_Godzilla on March 29, 2010, 09:19:56 AM
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Maybe I'm insane - and NO, I don't have a film. I float this just to see if it's happened to anyone else.
Yesterday afternoon, I approached a solo low Lancaster. It was the third of a box - the other two got blown away by some unlucky compatriots who paid the price for their attacks. This I saw happen as I approached the box. I noticed, as I approached, no identifying icon. This remained true even as I got close enough to see the remaining Lanc. As I got close to it, I made a slashing firing pass and several hits. Normally, in a Spit VIII, I could do this with impunity by rolling and yawing as I came in. However, this Lanc put me down hard, as if hitting me with 20 mils, and blew my wing off quickly.
I never saw an icon - and even more oddly, I never got a message of who shot me down.
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Hmmm.. :headscratch:
I think a few days of fishing and camping would probably make that mystery Lanc go away.. :noid
:D
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First question is what direction you were approaching from.
Second is what alt, above, coalt, or below?
Dead 6 is called dead 6 for a very good reason.
High or low slashing attacks from the side always work better.
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I'm gonna throw this one out there, but did you have your icon mode turned (off). lol.
-Spektor
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Was he on the deck, because being extremely low can hide the icon "under the water." Some bombers, especially lancs will set down on the water to protect their belly from vertical attacks (no bottom guns). Remember this guy dispatched two other attackers, he most likely got a good stream right into your flimsy spit. A little unlucky but not terribly surprising. Never consider your plane immune to another planes guns.
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Was he on the deck, because being extremely low can hide the icon "under the water." Some bombers, especially lancs will set down on the water to protect their belly from vertical attacks (no bottom guns). Remember this guy dispatched two other attackers, he most likely got a good stream right into your flimsy spit. A little unlucky but not terribly surprising. Never consider your plane immune to another planes guns.
I approached from above and aft abeam. He was low, but not low enough to hide an icon - I recall something like 6-8k. Other icons were visible. I never shut mine off in an arena where others are using them.
I TOTALLY concede that he might've just blasted me. It happens - though I'm not used to getting it like that from a Lanc - a 17 or 24 I tend to find much more salamanderly. Leave that aside as me getting killed - not that unusual an ocurrence.
The true mystery is the missing icon and missing message after he took off the wing of my admittedly flimsy spit.
Regarding that flimsy issue, it REALLY is. I downed a couple of Lancs the other day with a D-9 and honestly felt like it was robust compared to the Spit because it soaked up a couple of holes in the wings with impunity. I used to always feel like, with the D-9, I was pushing a glass nose around (still true, in the overall scheme, they're pretty easy to oil/coolant hit).
I wish I'd filmed it.
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Fantastic riddle, and I believe I have the answer. You inadvertently had icons turned off and this lanc was in fact your ally. You kill shot yourself. If icon was on like you claim, I still argue it was your ally and his icon was hidden somehow.
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Fantastic riddle, and I believe I have the answer. You inadvertently had icons turned off and this lanc was in fact your ally. You kill shot yourself. If icon was on like you claim, I still argue it was your ally and his icon was hidden somehow.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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:rofl :rofl :rofl
Okay, perv, laugh your fao.
Actually, this sounds like the most plausible explanation. It SOUNDED like getting hit with my own 20 mils. The icon still baffles me but the self-service kill makes a lot of sense.
I'm sure I didn't get credit, either. If such were policy, doubtless there'd be some clown with an outsized ego-wiener who specialized in shooting himself down, just so he could post up big kill numbers in the arena and in the forums.
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Okay, perv, laugh your fao.
You gotta admit its pretty funny :D well at least the mystery has been solved :cheers:
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You gotta admit its pretty funny :D well at least the mystery has been solved :cheers:
Yes - and, I wondered why my epic attack appeared unanswered yet I got absolutely HAMMERED.
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Dont feel to bad. I did the same thing in a tank at one time thinking this guy had the spawn camped. Turns out it was a friendly and i killshot myself 5 times before realizing i had icons off.
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Dont feel to bad. I did the same thing in a tank at one time thinking this guy had the spawn camped. Turns out it was a friendly and i killshot myself 5 times before realizing i had icons off.
LOL. I'd love to know what the friendly was thinking!
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I do this on a routine basis, on purpose, to squadmates.
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Dont feel to bad. I did the same thing in a tank at one time thinking this guy had the spawn camped. Turns out it was a friendly and i killshot myself 5 times before realizing i had icons off.
I did that once, but I didn't had icons off. He was simply out of icon range. I needed several shots to range him, and then I rejoced about that amazing 7K hit... for a 1/2 second. Then I was back in tower. :o
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I do this on a routine basis, on purpose, to squadmates.
lol
-Spektor
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Sometimes it seems like icons in enemy and friendly planes even though i am 1.5-2k out don't show up for seconds at a time perhaps this happened to you.
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What i never really grasp is that almost every single original ww2 gun cam footage i see of fighter v bomber is near as dammit dead six. Yet i get eaten up in hurri's and spits by lancs (.303) and b17's b24's. I've taken to routinely upping 110's or 190's for bomber attacks. and whislt i'm aware of the fact i should do slashing dives or rolls or ferocious yawing i just ain't good enough and predominantly end up in the offset 6 o clock position.
I know its a bit off thread but firstly, can anyone tell me how to aim properly in a bomber turret, i sometimes shoot them to pieces, sometimes ne'er a hit, and secondly, if bomber turret gunners were so effective then why did they have the highest death ratio second only to kamikaze's and why did the brits and us decide to abandon turrets as they add excess weight to na advantage?
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I usually put my lanc on the deck to protect the underside as well as forcing the approaching enemy to come in from above thus enabling me to use top mounted guns. More firepower more death. Tip for approaching a lancaster: If he shot down 2 guys already he was really really low on ammo when you came into the scene. I would have taunted him to get him to waste the rest(if you have time) then gone in for the kill. Just a friendly tip. Not saying my ideas are any better than anyone elses. hits420
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I usually put my lanc on the deck to protect the underside as well as forcing the approaching enemy to come in from above thus enabling me to use top mounted guns. More firepower more death. Tip for approaching a lancaster: If he shot down 2 guys already he was really really low on ammo when you came into the scene. I would have taunted him to get him to waste the rest(if you have time) then gone in for the kill. Just a friendly tip. Not saying my ideas are any better than anyone elses. hits420
Yeah, but this tactic would also make you a highly popular target, given that nobody has to climb up to intercept you. I took a K-4 up after a box o Lancs that were flying at 32k feeling quite certain that none of my mates would bother - and so they indicated (if he's up that high, why bother?). I climbed feeling well sure that I'd have the tasty lancs all to myself. <buuurp> they were good.
.303s? You're kidding me, right? I always think of the Lanc in the same way whalers used to think of the Right Whale. Soft as butta, without any of that salamanderly 50 stuff you find on the nasty Ami bombers... The only thing easier is Luftwaffe bombers.