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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: betty on March 30, 2010, 04:56:18 PM
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On sunday night I was getting ready for bed. Laying on the couch I noticed this vertical red line that had developed on my 42" wide screen LCD. Its my TV and my computer monitor. Anyways, I got my purchase invoice out and noticed that my manufactures warrenty had JUST ran out on the 22nd of Jan. I did not purchase and extended warrenty as the sales guy led me to believe my TV had a 5 year warranty.
I called the place where I bought it and told them what happened. All I kept hearing was "did you get the extended warranty?"...i was passed around back and forth between the manufacture and the place where I purchased it. The place I bought it from then tells me to call this TV repair store and that they can help me because they would only fix my TV if i had the extended warranty. I called the repair store they told me to call, they said " you blew a panel and its expensive to fix". I asked them "how expensive?"..the lady then replies " i dont know but i was just told they are REALLY expensive." So ofcourse my next question was "can you find out how much they are and call me back??". A few hours go by and she calls me back " your going to have to call the manufacture yourself, we are not having any luck finding a part to replace your panel". By this time I was soooooooo frustrated i just picked up the phone and called the place back where I purchased it. I talked to the manager once again that I spoke with earlier that morning. I told her what they said about the panel and she says "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooo". She then puts me on hold. I was very upset, I had paid almost 800.00 for this TV a little over a year ago and this is going wrong with it already! grrrrrrrr! so then she gets back on the phone and asked me "what kind of shape is your TV in?" i replied "my TV is it perfect condition, i followed all the instructions on cleaning it as it said in the users manual." she then says "do you still have your box and packing?" "well of course! i always keep that stuff"...she then says that she has a shipment of samsung 42" screens comin in tomorrow and they will give me one of them and take my TV back. After this, I will ONLY purchase my stuff from this place. its called ABC Warehouse. They was great with me....
So we pack up my HAIER TV and take it down there, I return home with a Samsung 42" Plasma screen. I didn't have to pay anything extra or anything!
My question for suggestions is this...is it ok to play AH on a plasma screen also is it ok for my kids to play the Wii on it without burning into the screen???
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Quite a story for that question, :lol, thanks for making me read all that.
Oh, and I assume it's safe, but I'm no expert.
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Been playing AH the last 3 years on my 42" plasma. No problems yet :aok
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On sunday night I was getting ready for bed. Laying on the couch I noticed this vertical red line that had developed on my 42" wide screen LCD. Its my TV and my computer monitor. Anyways, I got my purchase invoice out and noticed that my manufactures warrenty had JUST ran out on the 22nd of Jan. I did not purchase and extended warrenty as the sales guy led me to believe my TV had a 5 year warranty.
I called the place where I bought it and told them what happened. All I kept hearing was "did you get the extended warranty?"...i was passed around back and forth between the manufacture and the place where I purchased it. The place I bought it from then tells me to call this TV repair store and that they can help me because they would only fix my TV if i had the extended warranty. I called the repair store they told me to call, they said " you blew a panel and its expensive to fix". I asked them "how expensive?"..the lady then replies " i dont know but i was just told they are REALLY expensive." So ofcourse my next question was "can you find out how much they are and call me back??". A few hours go by and she calls me back " your going to have to call the manufacture yourself, we are not having any luck finding a part to replace your panel". By this time I was soooooooo frustrated i just picked up the phone and called the place back where I purchased it. I talked to the manager once again that I spoke with earlier that morning. I told her what they said about the panel and she says "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooo". She then puts me on hold. I was very upset, I had paid almost 800.00 for this TV a little over a year ago and this is going wrong with it already! grrrrrrrr! so then she gets back on the phone and asked me "what kind of shape is your TV in?" i replied "my TV is it perfect condition, i followed all the instructions on cleaning it as it said in the users manual." she then says "do you still have your box and packing?" "well of course! i always keep that stuff"...she then says that she has a shipment of samsung 42" screens comin in tomorrow and they will give me one of them and take my TV back. After this, I will ONLY purchase my stuff from this place. its called ABC Warehouse. They was great with me....
So we pack up my HAIER TV and take it down there, I return home with a Samsung 42" Plasma screen. I didn't have to pay anything extra or anything!
My question for suggestions is this...is it ok to play AH on a plasma screen also is it ok for my kids to play the Wii on it without burning into the screen???
Plasma!? They still make plasma TVs??
I have read that due to the color configurations of games that is leaves imprints in the plasma screens, but however I personally played video games on my plasma when I was younger and nothing happened to the TV. I would read up on it, Google I suggest, but from personal experience nothing happened to my TV.
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And all that trouble is why you should of just bought a Samsung in the first place. =P
Just like most things you want to get a good life out of, don't crank up the resolution or contrast/brightness to the highest possible/ideal setting. I have a 42" LCD and have my XBox hooked up to it and it configured to essentialy use one-notch lower settings than what the "ideal" settings are for the TV, I'm happier with a few less pixels and non overloaded electronic harware than the minutely noticable increase in quality.
Probabley the biggest difference you're gonna notice going from an LCD to a Plasma won't be until your power bill comes, LCDs are very power efficient, a 42" plasma on the other hand is gonna be like having a second fridge hooked up now if you use it a fair amount. I love Samsungs though and recomend dishing out the little extra for them (I've found that if you dig you can find them at a bargain on sale w/ a mail-in rebate too), I have a 19" and 20"W for my computers at home, at work I have a 20" primary and 16" secondary.
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the burn in problem with plasmas was with the first generation plasmas. they are perfectly fine for gaming.
and i agree with Babalonian, you should have bought samsung to begin with ;) :salute :salute
NOT
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I just bought a panasonic 42" plasma and was advised against playing games on a plasma, if you are going to do that get an lcd/led. So I'll just stick to my 19" monitor and not risk screwing up my TV.
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There is only one television that a person should spend money on and that is a
Pioneer KURO
Kind of pricey but you only have to buy one.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/HomeEntertainment/PlasmaTVs+Monitors
Todd
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You usually have a year to purchase an extended warranty from places like best buy etc etc. You do not have to buy an EW that day. -AB
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My old roommate used to play xbox for hours on his 5 year old plasma and never had any problems with burn in. If it did happen it would be cleared after a few hours of playing video games/watching something on it.
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Betty youll love the Samsung, ive had the 46" LED for about 9 months, flawless picture mines PC playable to
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Sounds a lot like what I went thru several years ago. I bought a 55" RCA big screen (non HD) demo model from Circuit City fro $750. An hour after I get it home it fried. I call CC and they tell me since it's a demo all they can do is give me my money back. I decided to go thru RCA/Thompson factory. They sent a local shop by to pick it up. Months went by and no TV. I was calling RCA twice a day by then just to aggravate them.
Finally after 7 months of me harassing them they admitted they could not fix the TV because there were no parts available for that model and it was discontinued. They offered me a 65" Scenium HDTV (retail $2500) as a replacement and I took it. It still has a great picture. :D
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Bang for the buck a good plasma TV will still out perform LCD in terms of picture quality, motion processing, black level detail, and color accuracy.
Burn in is less of a concern these days than it used to be, and most sets have some sort of feature built in to help resist it's effects. Typically these are either a pixel shift (it just runs while the TV is on and you never even notice) or if you notice an image starting to burn you can turn on a white screen to help even everything out. Plasmas can be a little more susceptible during the initial break in period so I would just pay attention for awhile. I wouldn't think AH would be a problem because all the looking around we do would cycle what pixels are being used fairly often. But some console games or FPS with a fixed HUD you may want to limit to a few hours at a time for awhile. IF you see something start to burn in, just turn on the white screen for awhile and it should go away. The only time I ever saw a burned in image on my Samsung plasma here at home was after watching the presidential debates last year which were on CNN for a couple hours straight w/out commercial interruption and all the stupid CNN graphics and logo started to burn a little. I turned on the white screen for awhile and it went away.
But that may be just the excuse a mom needs to get her kids out to mow the lawn or something. :)
To speak to a couple things that have come up in this thread, it is probably a good idea to make sure the contrast/brightness isn't cranked all the way up, this is typically done in retail show floors because we tend to see what is brightest as being "best". Plasmas used to consume a fair amount of power but that's not really the case anymore, in fact depending on models Samsung has some plasmas that don't consume that much more power than a LCD.
Pioneer did make a really nice TV, however they've gotten out of the TV game, you still may be able to find a 2009 model someplace but I don't believe they will be making anything new moving forward.
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Plasma!? They still make plasma TVs??
I have read that due to the color configurations of games that is leaves imprints in the plasma screens, but however I personally played video games on my plasma when I was younger and nothing happened to the TV. I would read up on it, Google I suggest, but from personal experience nothing happened to my TV.
Burn-in issues are confined to the 1st gen. Plasmas. The current Plasmas do NOT suffer from burn-in issues.
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Bang for the buck a good plasma TV will still out perform LCD in terms of picture quality, motion processing, black level detail, and color accuracy.
Pioneer did make a really nice TV, however they've gotten out of the TV game, you still may be able to find a 2009 model someplace but I don't believe they will be making anything new moving forward.
Yep, LCD's cannot touch the picture quality of a Plasma in a dark room.
Pioneer had the World by the arse and left it to others to fight over. Something tells me they'll be back with a different platform.
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Yep, LCD's cannot touch the picture quality of a Plasma in a dark room.
Pioneer had the World by the arse and left it to others to fight over. Something tells me they'll be back with a different platform.
I wouldn't mind seeing them back in the game, it was a good product and I say that as someone who had to sell against them for a few years. There's a couple other players in the high end plasma market, the first is Panasonic who came out with their Premiere line (sold on the professional/commercial side) which is a really fine set. Panasonic used to OEM the panels for the Kuro line and I've heard alternating rumors that they bought some of Pioneer's patents or even hired away some of the Pioneer engineers when they got out of the TV game, but I haven't been able to confirm them.
The other player is Runco which also uses Panasonic as an OEM (the RS232 control codes are even the same) you pay a pretty penny for one of there sets but they are GORGEOUS.
Of course now everyone is trying like hell to get into the 3D game too, I say trying to stay on top of all this stuff is a task. :)
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What kills me is, We all pretty much upgraded to HD tv's & now they come out w/ 3-D tv.....drats
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3D throws a whole new wrinkle in the equation, some of the TV's are just starting to ship so I'm in the process of learning what's what right now.
The first thing is active vs. passive glasses. Both have advantages and disadvantages the passive glasses are what you get if you see a 3D movie in the theater. They either use a color filter (think of the old blur and red paper glasses from back in the day) or polarized lens, the end result that each eye is only getting half the information, the brain then reassembles everything. Active glasses are actually powered and have to be synced with the display (this is what Samsung and Panasonic are using on their new TV's). The glass lenses are actually LCD screens that open and close in a certain sequence, the advantage is that each eye get's all the visual information, the disadvantage is that each eye only receives half as much information per second. The other issue with active glasses is cost, MSRP is probably going to be between $100 and $200 per set depending on model.
That means you're looking at an extra $500 to $1000 to outfit a family for home 3D. Other important little tidbit if anyone is considering getting one. Right now the glasses you can buy from either Samsung or Panasonic will only work their own TV's due to the sequence that the shutters on the glasses have to go through to create the effect. I'm still trying to find out if the source (ie 3D Blu-Ray player) has to also come from the same manufacturer or not.
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I'll wait for the 3rd generation 3d-tv stuff before I even begin to think about it...next purchase might be a 240Hz led LCD...if I can't find one in the price range I'm willing to pay, then it will be a 120Hz...still a step up from what I have and it's only a year old.
Betty, don't sweat it...as long as you don't leave the screen sitting on a single image for a couple of days, you won't have to worry about burn in...next time say away from anything that doesn't say Vizio, Samsung, Panasonic, Pioneer, Toshiba...and get the extra warranty unless you see the 5 yr mfg warranty in writing.
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What kills me about the 120hz and 240hz rating on LCD's is that they are band-aids to fix a problem that is inherent in technology behind the TV, and that people have to pay more money for it. If I had to buy a TV today and it was going to be over 42" in size I'd still get a plasma. Spend less and get more for it.
LED based lighting for LCD's was a major step forward, but I still say plasma is best bang for the buck.
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ty all for the info! i do love this screen, the picture quality is much more deeper and crisp. the other one had a nice color to it but NOTHIN close to this plasma screen! i am very happy with it!
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Wait a sec, you returned a Haier, and came away with a Samsung.... Woah, MAJOR score, lol! :aok
I hate the whole technology race, as soon as you upgrade, the next gen shows up... :furious
Sometimes I fell like a hampster in the wheel, run like hell, and never get anywhere, :uhoh
RC
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Current generation Plasmas will suffer a mild burn in effect. Mine is 6 months old.
The logo on the movie channel burns in if it stays on constantly.
The older generation of games with stationary backgrounds and moving icons really messed up the screens for burn ins, but you don't see that as much with games like AH where the scenery is in constant motion. You will have some burn in with games like Rock Band that have stationary objects, but it takes a while to show up and is quick to correct.
I have a 32" HD LED I play on in here, and a 47" Plasma in the other room. The only reason the 47" isn't set as my gamer is my eyeballs would fry, this 32" is almost too much as it is :) Enjoy the new set!
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On sunday night I was getting ready for bed. Laying on the couch I noticed this vertical red line that had developed on my 42" wide screen LCD. Its my TV and my computer monitor. Anyways, I got my purchase invoice out and noticed that my manufactures warrenty had JUST ran out on the 22nd of Jan. I did not purchase and extended warrenty as the sales guy led me to believe my TV had a 5 year warranty.
I called the place where I bought it and told them what happened. All I kept hearing was "did you get the extended warranty?"...i was passed around back and forth between the manufacture and the place where I purchased it. The place I bought it from then tells me to call this TV repair store and that they can help me because they would only fix my TV if i had the extended warranty. I called the repair store they told me to call, they said " you blew a panel and its expensive to fix". I asked them "how expensive?"..the lady then replies " i dont know but i was just told they are REALLY expensive." So ofcourse my next question was "can you find out how much they are and call me back??". A few hours go by and she calls me back " your going to have to call the manufacture yourself, we are not having any luck finding a part to replace your panel". By this time I was soooooooo frustrated i just picked up the phone and called the place back where I purchased it. I talked to the manager once again that I spoke with earlier that morning. I told her what they said about the panel and she says "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooo". She then puts me on hold. I was very upset, I had paid almost 800.00 for this TV a little over a year ago and this is going wrong with it already! grrrrrrrr! so then she gets back on the phone and asked me "what kind of shape is your TV in?" i replied "my TV is it perfect condition, i followed all the instructions on cleaning it as it said in the users manual." she then says "do you still have your box and packing?" "well of course! i always keep that stuff"...she then says that she has a shipment of samsung 42" screens comin in tomorrow and they will give me one of them and take my TV back. After this, I will ONLY purchase my stuff from this place. its called ABC Warehouse. They was great with me....
So we pack up my HAIER TV and take it down there, I return home with a Samsung 42" Plasma screen. I didn't have to pay anything extra or anything!
My question for suggestions is this...is it ok to play AH on a plasma screen also is it ok for my kids to play the Wii on it without burning into the screen???
anyone who had used a plasma to use any video or comp game knows that over time it will destroy the TV's visuals
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Betty,
I have a 50" Pioneer Plasma TV and played games using the Wii, PS3, and even had my computer hooked up to it with no problems for over 5 years so far.
My only concern that I see that you did not mention was having a separate power center source like a Monster Power Box to maintain pure power levels. http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=2141
Plasma TV's are power demanding appliances and any fluctuations or surge in power can damage a Plasma TV, this equipment was highly recommended when purchasing expensive (then) plasmas. You can actually see the digital readout of your power change from time to time but the device will maintain a clean power state to ensure any devices connected is not affected by any of these fluctuations. So far so good.
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Betty,
I have a 50" Pioneer Plasma TV and played games using the Wii, PS3, and even had my computer hooked up to it with no problems for over 5 years so far.
My only concern that I see that you did not mention was having a separate power center source like a Monster Power Box to maintain pure power levels. http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=2141
Plasma TV's are power demanding appliances and any fluctuations or surge in power can damage a Plasma TV, this equipment was highly recommended when purchasing expensive (then) plasmas. You can actually see the digital readout of your power change from time to time but the device will maintain a clean power state to ensure any devices connected is not affected by any of these fluctuations. So far so good.
actually i have a ACP power supply that all my electronics plug into. it has a battery back up also.