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Title: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: uptown on April 10, 2010, 11:31:35 AM
I slammed it on the desk last night and now it's shutting down my computer. At computer startup this morning I got the message to the effect that too much electrical current was coming from USB device and computer will shut down in 10 seconds. I unplugged it, restarted computer, plugged it back in and it locked computer up.

My question is, has this happened to anyone else in the past? Can it be fixed? It's not under any warranty so that option is out.
 Can these things be rebuilt, or do I just need to get another one?

This is the 1st time I've ever slammed a JS down and this is what happens....just my luck  :(

Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: Steve on April 10, 2010, 12:27:41 PM
I slammed it on the desk last night ...



 :lol
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: dkff49 on April 10, 2010, 12:32:54 PM

This is the 1st time I've ever slammed a JS down and this is what happens....just my luck




Probably because it is not a hammer. mmmmmmmmmmmm :old:

 :D



ps: i think your screwed

:headscratch:

what i mean is the problem sounds like it may be in the board and it might be just as expensive to buy a board as it is to buy a new stick.  i'm just guessing though
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: BiPoLaR on April 10, 2010, 12:43:20 PM
i once thought i was in the who and started swinging mine around by the cord  :devil
That didnt work out as well as i had hoped. Few things were broken during the process.


Oh and to answer your question, ummmmm your screwed  :aok
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: uptown on April 10, 2010, 12:47:15 PM

 :lol
  TY Steve....i feel better now  :rolleyes: <----shakes fist at you  :lol
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: The Fugitive on April 10, 2010, 12:52:12 PM
well its junk now, take it apart and see what you have. You can't make it any worst, give it a go.
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: NOT on April 10, 2010, 01:17:26 PM
you cant lose anymore than you already have by contacting CH about a repair. they may fix it a lot cheaper than you think. just a thought.




NOT
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: 68ZooM on April 10, 2010, 01:20:22 PM
LMAO um its broke, i had a errrrr ummmm how we say this, bad moment once to with my old logitec, bad night turned into joystick went right and the base (and guts) went left, at a high rate of speed i may add  :devil
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: SIK1 on April 10, 2010, 01:26:32 PM
If you have any electronics knowledge, I would open it up. You never know might be something obvious, and easy to fix. Not likely, but what have you got to lose?
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: froger on April 10, 2010, 04:20:13 PM
I have a brand new fighter stick usb i have only pulled outta the box twice, both times it was used for about 20 mins.

I found it totally unusable and will let it go for a US grant. it truly is brand new.


that is all....froger
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: uptown on April 10, 2010, 04:22:30 PM
I have a brand new fighter stick usb i have only pulled outta the box twice, both times it was used for about 20 mins.

I found it totally unusable and will let it go for a US grant. it truly is brand new.


that is all....froger
PM me what you want for it Froger. I took the bottom off mine and looked inside, but i can't see where anything is out of order. :salute
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 10, 2010, 04:29:01 PM
honestly, I am very surprised that you're getting this error about the USB device outputting too much power since none of the current CH joysticks output any power.  The only CH joystick that would even have the potential of causing something like this would have been the old CH Force FX that had its own power supply and was non-USB.

If the CH Fighterstick had its own power supply, then I could see something like this happen but it doesn't because the USB port acts as the power supply for the stick.  Have you tried connecting another USB device like a mouse or keyboard to see if you get the same error?


ack-ack
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: froger on April 10, 2010, 04:34:22 PM
PM me what you want for it Froger. I took the bottom off mine and looked inside, but i can't see where anything is out of order. :salute
chk yer PM town...



frog
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: dkff49 on April 10, 2010, 04:37:43 PM
Ackack my line of thinking is that there is a short with one or more of the components causing a positive charge to be coming back through the line into the computer. this could possibly bring up that kind of message.
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: uptown on April 10, 2010, 05:01:37 PM
honestly, I am very surprised that you're getting this error about the USB device outputting too much power since none of the current CH joysticks output any power.  The only CH joystick that would even have the potential of causing something like this would have been the old CH Force FX that had its own power supply and was non-USB.

If the CH Fighterstick had its own power supply, then I could see something like this happen but it doesn't because the USB port acts as the power supply for the stick.  Have you tried connecting another USB device like a mouse or keyboard to see if you get the same error?


ack-ack
Yeah I don't understand it either. I switched USB devices thinking the problem may be the plug in the computer gone bad, but that's not the case. I plugged the stick into usb on another computer, no error message or computer lockup, but no lights on stick lit up, as if it has no power going to it. My guess is the circuit board fryed on me.

I'll just get another one and use this for parts i guess.
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: Kung Fu on April 10, 2010, 05:59:27 PM
CH will refurbish your stick for a price.  I had the top hat switch go out on mine after 7yrs of use.  Got it refurbished and now its like new.  They will clean the pots and the outside as well.  Contact them and compare.
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: SWrokit on April 10, 2010, 06:08:55 PM
Uptown, while it's true the stick doesn't produce any power, power is being supplied by your rig to the stick.  Once powered the stick then returns some of that power back in the form of signals, at a much lower voltage, we're talking milivolts.  Power being supplied is much higher (in order to illuminate the lights).  The return signals (voltage) sent by the stick back to the rig after running through a series of diodes and/or rectifiers, thus seriously reducing the DC voltage signal.

Best guess Bro, without testing the diodes, is when the stick was slammed a diode and/or rectifier was damaged.  It's real easy to kill one, hell by touch alone (been there done that  :confused:)  Generally if the diode is located on a PC board, ya end up replacing the entire board.  Probably better to just replace the stick than have to disassemble, break solder joints, then reverse, hoping everything goes back together without leftover parts  :D

<S>
Rokit
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: infowars on April 10, 2010, 08:22:43 PM
I watched my CH stick seriously slammed by a 5'10" tall women and it still works like a champ...  To be honest I think it fixed a dead spot in my throttle... <S> CH Products.
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: CAP1 on April 10, 2010, 09:37:54 PM
I slammed it on the desk last night and now it's shutting down my computer. At computer startup this morning I got the message to the effect that too much electrical current was coming from USB device and computer will shut down in 10 seconds. I unplugged it, restarted computer, plugged it back in and it locked computer up.

My question is, has this happened to anyone else in the past? Can it be fixed? It's not under any warranty so that option is out.
 Can these things be rebuilt, or do I just need to get another one?

This is the 1st time I've ever slammed a JS down and this is what happens....just my luck  :(




i still have 2 holes in the wall right next to my computer where i slammed my old joystick through it. thankfully it wasn't my ch.
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: uptown on April 12, 2010, 07:42:58 AM
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Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: tassos on April 12, 2010, 08:38:09 AM
You should ask for Quarantie Money back to get a new stick cause there was nothing in instruction likePlug usb out befor slamm the Joystick
for the Next joystick print this out and put it on new Joystick:
CAUTION
PLUG USB OUT OFF PC
BEFORE SLAMM THE EQUIPMENT
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: SKJohn on April 12, 2010, 09:29:15 AM
The real question, at least as far as I'm concerned, is:

What is it about this game that causes grown (I'm assuming...) men to throw and slam their joysticks around like a child throwing a temper tantrum.  Holes in walls?  Joysticks ripped asunder?


Say it with me:

GRUUUZE FRABRAAAA


try again:

GRUUZE  FRABRAAAA

or you could start singing:  "I feel pretty - oh so pretty!" :D
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: golfr on April 12, 2010, 12:17:56 PM
The real question, at least as far as I'm concerned, is:

What is it about this game that causes grown (I'm assuming...) men to throw and slam their joysticks around like a child throwing a temper tantrum.  Holes in walls?  Joysticks ripped asunder?


Say it with me:

GRUUUZE FRABRAAAA


try again:

GRUUZE  FRABRAAAA

or you could start singing:  "I feel pretty - oh so pretty!"

I'm guessing you don't play golf.

BTW, what the frig does GRUUZE FRABRAAA MEAN?

Friggin weirdo...
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: SKJohn on April 12, 2010, 01:05:11 PM
I'm guessing you don't play golf.

BTW, what the frig does GRUUZE FRABRAAA MEAN?

Friggin weirdo...


"Gruuze Frabaa" is an ancient eskimo word that mothers say to their children to calm them down.  (that is if I remember Jack Nicholson correctly . . . :))
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: Bruv119 on April 12, 2010, 05:45:44 PM
I watched my CH stick seriously slammed by a 5'10" tall women and it still works like a champ...  To be honest I think it fixed a dead spot in my throttle... <S> CH Products.

 :rofl

I hope you dumped her for such contempt for your stick.
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: REVRAND on April 12, 2010, 05:54:29 PM
So if USB has no current and/or power coming through, how does a USB  charge your cell phone.....?  

i.e.- Plugging iphone into to USB to Sync it also provides enough current to charge battery......correct me if I am wrong ?
 

 :salute

The REV



oooops by the by I have had CH stick and pedals for 3 yrs and DONT PULL APART if you plan on having CH fix it ....they will FIX and refurbish for a reasonable price....as stated above.
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 12, 2010, 07:00:12 PM
Hey if its busted up. I need a new 8 way hat and will buy one of em from ya.
CH dosnt sell the hat switches  :furious
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: Enker on April 12, 2010, 10:06:13 PM
So if USB has no current and/or power coming through, how does a USB  charge your cell phone.....?  

i.e.- Plugging iphone into to USB to Sync it also provides enough current to charge battery......correct me if I am wrong ?
 

The cord/connection provides no power. All the power comes from the power supply in the computer, through the cord, into the iPhone.
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: SWrokit on April 13, 2010, 01:18:59 AM
Iphone??   :huh :huh :huh :huh

Have no idea what so ever what Iphone has to do with anything.

Uptown, my bad Bro.....you can without a doubt send your stick to CH for refurbis for a resonable fee.  Beats replacing hands down.  :huh

Iphone.......LMFAO!!!  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

<S>
Rokit
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: Jayhawk on April 13, 2010, 01:23:29 AM
Iphone??   :huh :huh :huh :huh

Reading is hard isn't it, check out the quote, they are talking about USB hook-ups and phones.
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: SWrokit on April 13, 2010, 01:35:16 AM
Reading is hard isn't it, check out the quote, they are talking about USB hook-ups and phones.

Especialy after 10 to many scotches (on vacation Bro).  My bad   :aok

<S>
Rokit
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: uptown on April 13, 2010, 07:01:26 AM
Hey if its busted up. I need a new 8 way hat and will buy one of em from ya.
CH dosnt sell the hat switches  :furious
Hey bud, a friend has blessed me today so I'm going to return the favor. PM me your address and I'll sent you my fighterstick, and I'll even pay for the shipping.
Other then a fryed circuit board, the thing is in great working order. I still even have to box it came in. I'll send it out this week if I get your addy.  :salute
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: REVRAND on April 13, 2010, 07:13:12 AM
Iphone??   :huh :huh :huh :huh

Have no idea what so ever what Iphone has to do with anything.

Uptown, my bad Bro.....you can without a doubt send your stick to CH for refurbis for a resonable fee.  Beats replacing hands down.  :huh

Iphone.......LMFAO!!!  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

<S>
Rokit

....yeah helps if you read a thread first and then comment...........
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: Jayhawk on April 13, 2010, 10:09:16 AM
Especialy after 10 to many scotches (on vacation Bro).  My bad   :aok

<S>
Rokit

 :rofl In that case, drink one for me!  :aok Have fun
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: uptown on April 16, 2010, 01:04:15 PM
Here's a strange one for ya. I got to jonesin' for the game so I dug my X52 out and yep it's still junk, but for watermelon n grins I hooked the CH stick in, fired up the rig and it's working like a champ right now. I guess the time off did it some good. Either that or the Sioux medicine man I hired fixed it.  :headscratch:


CH Products rock  :rock
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: TequilaChaser on April 16, 2010, 01:27:29 PM
Here's a strange one for ya. I got to jonesin' for the game so I dug my X52 out and yep it's still junk, but for watermelon n grins I hooked the CH stick in, fired up the rig and it's working like a champ right now. I guess the time off did it some good. Either that or the Sioux medicine man I hired fixed it.  :headscratch:


CH Products rock  :rock

perhaps unplugging it, and maybe turning the PC off and then restarting it at a later time may have reset the USB port / cleared the port from  some issue

did you perhaps do a "hard Boot" on the CH Fighter Stick?  did your controls all stay mapped? or did you have to re set the Stick back p  &/or Recalibrate it?

in any case, I am happy for you ~S~
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: uptown on April 16, 2010, 03:42:27 PM
perhaps unplugging it, and maybe turning the PC off and then restarting it at a later time may have reset the USB port / cleared the port from  some issue

did you perhaps do a "hard Boot" on the CH Fighter Stick?  did your controls all stay mapped? or did you have to re set the Stick back p  &/or Recalibrate it?

in any case, I am happy for you ~S~
No, I didn't do anything that I know of, except for let it sit in the closet for a week or so. Everything was still mapped and everything. I did recalibrate it, but i always do that when I log on anyway.
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 16, 2010, 05:25:19 PM
perhaps unplugging it, and maybe turning the PC off and then restarting it at a later time may have reset the USB port / cleared the port from  some issue

did you perhaps do a "hard Boot" on the CH Fighter Stick?  did your controls all stay mapped? or did you have to re set the Stick back p  &/or Recalibrate it?

in any case, I am happy for you ~S~

The hard boots were for the legacy analog game port CH programmable sticks to clear out the keyboard buffer because Speedkeys would sometimes jam it.  Since the USB sticks are no longer the keyboard emulators the old CH programmable sticks used to be, there should be no reason for a hard boot and as such, don't think the USB CH sticks have that feature anymore.  At least the prototype USB CH Fighterstick and Combatstick that I still have, you can't do a hard boot on them.


ack-ack
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: uptown on April 17, 2010, 05:21:45 PM
I don't understand what TC meant by "hard booting".
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: TequilaChaser on April 17, 2010, 08:15:47 PM
I don't understand what TC meant by "hard booting".

back when CH had gameport CH products ( fighter Stick, Combat Stick, Flight stick, Pro Throttle, etc...) you could hold down (2) buttons during PC boot up and it would reset the programmed settings stored in memory back to a default setting

I just figured it might be worth a shot, since the new ( newer ones ) USB CH sticks also have onboard memory

back when the 1st USB CH Fighter Sticks came out, I was under the impression  ( from some other CH users ) that the new USB models of the Fighter stick did not have the 2 MB memory modules like the older gameport versions had... but now they do have some type of Memory storage built into them...... least according to CH Manager userguide/manual they do.....

hope I explained it ok for ya......
Title: Re: CH Fighterstick repair
Post by: uptown on April 18, 2010, 12:06:58 AM
TY  :aok