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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Vudu15 on April 11, 2010, 12:07:54 AM
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Would love to be able to land anywhere within the perimeter of friendly fields especially with damage, in a real world setting you would have made it home.
sure the crew chief for the aircraft in question would be upset but the plane made it to its home station.
Cant tell you the number of times Ive not noticed a missing landing gear and skidded off the runway to a ditch in the middle of a friendly field.
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Would love to be able to land anywhere within the perimeter of friendly fields especially with damage, in a real world setting you would have made it home.
sure the crew chief for the aircraft in question would be upset but the plane made it to its home station.
Cant tell you the number of times Ive not noticed a missing landing gear and skidded off the runway to a ditch in the middle of a friendly field.
:aok +1
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I like the idea. There needs to be where lets say you land your plane near the base. I think they should be able to repair the plane lets say if you got half a wing or an oil leak. Not do this for free though maybe like .50 perk per every thing that's fixed. The normal refuel and ammo still stays the same though. Something like that.
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HiTech has said no to this many times in the past. It is a reward for landing on the runway and it will not be extended to near the runway.
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Would love to be able to land anywhere within the perimeter of friendly fields especially with damage, in a real world setting you would have made it home.
sure the crew chief for the aircraft in question would be upset but the plane made it to its home station.
Cant tell you the number of times Ive not noticed a missing landing gear and skidded off the runway to a ditch in the middle of a friendly field.
belly land if you are missing a landing gear. if you have not notice it is missing, check the instruments where it shows if your gears are up or down. If one of them is red, you have no landing gear. there is also a damage list the you can active that will tell you what is damage.
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belly land if you are missing a landing gear. if you have not notice it is missing, check the instruments where it shows if your gears are up or down. If one of them is red, you have no landing gear. there is also a damage list the you can active that will tell you what is damage.
i don't think that's the point... is it?
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I like the idea. There needs to be where lets say you land your plane near the base. I think they should be able to repair the plane lets say if you got half a wing or an oil leak. Not do this for free though maybe like .50 perk per every thing that's fixed. The normal refuel and ammo still stays the same though. Something like that.
My dear boy, think about it...
You are a mechanic (it hardly matters what kind)
My Bf109F4 rolls up with a holed up radiator.
CAN YOU REPLACE THE RADIATOR IN 30 SECONDS?
Didn't think so. :cool:
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My dear boy, think about it...
You are a mechanic (it hardly matters what kind)
My Bf109F4 rolls up with a holed up radiator.
CAN YOU REPLACE THE RADIATOR IN 30 SECONDS?
Didn't think so. :cool:
do you think thay can get 24 small bomb's in a b-17 in 30 seconds.if you seed no well thay do in the game. muahaha :t
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Im with cooldued with thar
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do you think thay can get 24 small bomb's in a b-17 in 30 seconds.if you seed no well thay do in the game. muahaha :t
Sigh...you know what i meant, repairs (even minor ones) could take hours, days, even. You should consider yourself lucky to make it home missing half a wing, let alone want the game to magically materialize a new fully functional component into you plane. :rolleyes:
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OMG!I cant get my point across can i get sum backup plz?
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Ive flown enough to know about my instruments showing damage it was just an example, I just think its dumb that you've flown however far with damage and possably a PW only drift in at the last second and pass out, and when you come to your over the pad F$%#. Now you've flown all this way to to get a ditch like your miles from your home station and not 200yds from the tower. As to it being a "Reward" what is this a simulator or kindergarden next ill have to make sure I color in the lines????
But no to the repairs near the field i just want to land successfully inside the perimeter of the field, especially on those few times i have a perked aircraft.
Or on vbases and ports as those can be tricky landings under fire and have many obstacles to doge.
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I like the idea. There needs to be where lets say you land your plane near the base. I think they should be able to repair the plane lets say if you got half a wing or an oil leak. Not do this for free though maybe like .50 perk per every thing that's fixed. The normal refuel and ammo still stays the same though. Something like that.
LOL.
Once I flew a 8 kill 38J sortie home with damage landed on the pad, was talking to a squaddie, then bailed out instead of .ef ing. I was spewing on channel for 30 minutes.
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Ive flown enough to know about my instruments showing damage it was just an example, I just think its dumb that you've flown however far with damage and possably a PW only drift in at the last second and pass out, and when you come to your over the pad F$%#. Now you've flown all this way to to get a ditch like your miles from your home station and not 200yds from the tower. As to it being a "Reward" what is this a simulator or kindergarden next ill have to make sure I color in the lines????
But no to the repairs near the field i just want to land successfully inside the perimeter of the field, especially on those few times i have a perked aircraft.
Or on vbases and ports as those can be tricky landings under fire and have many obstacles to doge.
This has been brought up a million times. HT has posted the the runway is the limit, there has to be a limit and that is the one he picked. If he added 20 feet to either side of the runway then people would complain they want 40 feet and so on. So it's the runway for a good landing or nothing.
Yes and like "kindergarten" there are rules, and everyone has to follow them. Learn to play with in those rules like the rest of us.
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+1 for this idea ... I mean really, I have had a whole weekend ruined because I got a ditch instead of successful landing ... :rolleyes:
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OMG!I cant get my point across can i get sum backup plz?
Using proper grammar and correct spelling allows one to get their point across without difficulty ... which is something that your posts lack.
Case in point ... "if you seed no well thay do in the game." ... wtf is that ?
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i don't think that's the point... is it?
Just telling him how to land without any landing gear.
Using proper grammar and correct spelling allows one to get their point across without difficulty ... which is something that your posts lack.
Case in point ... "if you seed no well thay do in the game." ... wtf is that ?
settle down slapshot, nobody is perfect.
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+1 for this idea ... I mean really, I have had a whole weekend ruined because I got a ditch instead of successful landing ... :rolleyes:
Sheesh Slappy, you're SUCH a points monkey! :D
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I guess I have higher standards for communication than Oakranger does as well.
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HiTech has said no to this many times in the past. It is a reward for landing on the runway and it will not be extended to near the runway.
Agreed.
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In the real world, any flight in which you survive was countable. Regardless of how and where the plane came down (and in how many pieces, SAPP I'm looking at you guys...).
This is a game. There is no penalty for losing. That said, there should (nay MUST) be a challenge for the rewards. There has to be a line drawn somewhere, and HTC point blank said he drew that line as "being on the runway".
Nothing stops you from reupping a fresh plane if you end on the grass, FYI.
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Ok well let me narrow this down just a bit I understand this a no go. But then why is there a "wishlist", anyway topic for another discussion: Here it is, no you shouldn't get the kill messages across channel if your not on concrete...agreed. I just dont think it should count as a Ditch sitting in the middle of your own airfield. That's it that was all I was referring to. No repairs, no supps, Just a Landed Successfully message that's it......oh and to me the reward is the perks not the message across text :D yea that's nice but I could give a crap less bout that. I just like flying and shooting lots and lots of shooting and usually not that much hitting :aok
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Ok well let me narrow this down just a bit I understand this a no go. But then why is there a "wishlist", anyway topic for another discussion: Here it is, no you shouldn't get the kill messages across channel if your not on concrete...agreed. I just dont think it should count as a Ditch sitting in the middle of your own airfield. That's it that was all I was referring to. No repairs, no supps, Just a Landed Successfully message that's it......oh and to me the reward is the perks not the message across text :D yea that's nice but I could give a crap less bout that. I just like flying and shooting lots and lots of shooting and usually not that much hitting :aok
Vudu15's got a point
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Vudu, I will give you the same answer I gave you in another thread. You are just looking to make the game "easier" for you (which is why you've got the full support of kingcobrakid and dued).
This is a game. There is no penalty for losing. That said, there should (nay MUST) be a challenge for the rewards. There has to be a line drawn somewhere, and HTC point blank said he drew that line as "being on the runway".
Hitting the nail on the head.
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im all for a base perimeter to count as a landing.
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Hitting the nail on the head.
It's kinda amusing to see Krusty being right from time to time nowadays.. now I understand what it feels like for fathers to see their sons starting to become "men"..
*sniff* :cry
..but anyways, he's right. If you've failed to coax your plane down where it needs to be, then by all means, you've failed. Otherwise the runway becomes nothing but a piece of asesthetic crap which people have no reason to use.
If one indeed wants to land the plane somewhere other than the runway and still get a landing, perhaps HT can compensate by making things adequately "realistic" in terms of landing planes other than it's supposed to land. Yes, we all know how 'easy' it is to land planes other than the tarmac..*snicker*
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Vudu, I will give you the same answer I gave you in another thread. You are just looking to make the game "easier" for you (which is why you've got the full support of kingcobrakid and dued).
Hitting the nail on the head.
Funny how that realism thing only comes up when someones dieing to much, or some other pitiful thing like that. If I wanted it to be easier Id ask that you could land kills just like tanks anywhere so long as there were no enmys near you......Which I dont want. Or an aimbot that would be handy, and man would it make getting kills easy(would never use one defeats the perpose of the game) oh and while were at it unlimited fuel ammo and ords.... <<<<<<would that be making the game "easier" for me? Anyhow fully understood you guys run the game I forgot yall have the final answers, so in closing to ditch an a/c means some one like me (aircraft crewchief/mechanic) has to go get the darn thing, and its located some distance away. While if it made it back to the airfield regardless if it was on concrete or in the grass still would have made it to home station..........and should not be a ditch, that's it. :airplane:
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I don't think there is an airfield anywhere that counts going off the runway as a normal landing.
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It's not a case of making it easy - just less weird. Maybe if you land on the runway you get your full perks - damaged or not. But if you miss the runway and manage the field you lose most of your perks but at least still get your recognition. After all, you did make it back.
If you're undamaged and miss the runway you should lose perks regardless.
Non-battle induced damaged should be paid for.
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Using proper grammar and correct spelling allows one to get their point across without difficulty ... which is something that your posts lack.
Case in point ... "if you seed no well thay do in the game." ... wtf is that ?
ok hou dis 4 gramer, or did you like it better this way?
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I don't think there is an airfield anywhere that counts going off the runway as a normal landing.
Yes got ya its not a "normal" landing most of the time it when you've been shot up and skid off the runway usually with a pw or something. If your at your home station i.e. the airfield and destroy your a/c the plane is just written off as a combat loss but its not a "ditch". It should not be a ditch sitting in the middle of your friendly airfield. and as to my last post I crew blackhawks and if we were forced down for whatever reason and we made it to the airfield it sure as heck wouldn't be a ditch, just because we didn't place it on the concrete.
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I think it's more normal for a helicopter to land off the runway than a fixed wing aircraft. :D
The main difference between a landing and a ditch in AH is points, perks and stats. Points and perks are part of the game aspect not the simulation aspect of AH. For a game you reward the more difficult accomplishment.
In AH "ditch" means your flight didn't end on the runway. I understand it has a different real world meaning.
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FLS makes an excellant point, but on top of that, there needs to be a line of ditch and sucessful landing. You think the line needs to be the boundries of the airfield, but what if you go off the end of the runway a little? Well ok its 100 yards outside the base is sucessful, but some bases have cliffs and it wasn't uncommon for an aircraft to crash land within a few miles of its home base. Ok, so within the radar ring is sucessful, but really if someone lands in a friendly field he would still count his kills of that sortie.
There are boundries now, and they work. Give em an inch and they'll want a mile.
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Ok well let me narrow this down just a bit I understand this a no go. But then why is there a "wishlist",
I will answer this question with another question........
Why is there a SEARCH function?
you would not have had to go through this whole ordeal if you used the search, you would have found that this subject has been covered several 100 times in the past 10+ years......
Anyhow fully understood you guys run the game I forgot yall have the final answers,
none of us run the game, we all just been here since the beginning and have seen upteen thousand new players come along and asked the same questions..... questions that hitech, himself, has answered....... and we are just relaying what the creator of this game gave as an answer for most of these questions on this wishlist forum...... that way hitech and the HTC staff do not have to waste their time answer the same questions over & over, and we can get new updates quicker
that's a win, win........... for everyone :aok
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Don't get shot up too much.
Learn to land with damage.
Do it on the runway.
It is a rare occasion that I use gear to land, anyhow. It is more of a formality, or if I am rearming because the hangers are down.
f you are not on the runway when you land, it should be, by all means, a ditch. You have not brought your aircraft home in a normal fashion, nor have you landed it in the proper place. You cannot get it, under it's own power, to a place where it can be repaired You ditched it, broken and unable to taxi or fly.
Besides, HiTech has said NOPE :D
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Nope.
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How 'bout if you ditch or land short of the runway you can bail out and walk your pilot to the runway and it counts as a successful landing, or bail out from a damaged plane over your airbase and land successfully. If base is under attack your pilot would have to dodge enemy fire, hide in bushes or disguise himself as a UN peacekeeper as he tries to make it back to base.
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IMO as soon as you leave the plane and it's not on the runway, you should negate any "name in lights" you earned during that sortie.
If, after that point, you wish to walk around as a chute I won't stop you. You shouldn't be rewarded for it, though.
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How about if you ditch inside the airfield you lose the plane's perks, but to get keep half of those earned.
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I think you should have to taxi off the runway to a tie-down area and shut down to get a successful landing and your name in lights. :neener:
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Ok guys thanks for the answers... just had to ask. So how can we get some stuff done around here? say the new gvs and aircraft or just........idk something.
:aok
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The completely new WWI arena, and planeset looked like "something" to me.
I'm not a coader, but it looks like they have been a bit busy.....
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I wonder how many of you guys saying "no way" or "HiTech said..." would be squealing if grass airfields were added with the current landing requirements. Wouldn't be too difficult if the runways were dirt but, if there was just grass with some light markings that would make things more difficult. Suppose it would make sense then to have it set to "within the perimeter".
As it is right now, it's on any part of the concrete whether it's a runway, taxiway or between two hangars, as long as the plane is on the concrete.
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Yes I didnt think this idea would come to much but it was worth an attempt heck Ive crash landed in towns all over the place and those all counted...even got "my name in lights" as a few of you guys like to toss around. Yea landing kills is fine and all but just the stupidity of goin oh great made it all the way fora ditch......why even try to make it home. Shouldve actually ditched it and saved myself the effort. :joystick:
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Would love to be able to land anywhere within the perimeter of friendly fields especially with damage, in a real world setting you would have made it home.
sure the crew chief for the aircraft in question would be upset but the plane made it to its home station.
Cant tell you the number of times Ive not noticed a missing landing gear and skidded off the runway to a ditch in the middle of a friendly field.
I do not agree.
I think that putting a premium on flying carefully and well is a Good Thing. If it were up to me, sliding in for a gear-up belly landing would count as a ditch, even if performed in the middle of a runway.
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I wonder how many of you guys saying "no way" or "HiTech said..." would be squealing if grass airfields were added with the current landing requirements. Wouldn't be too difficult if the runways were dirt but, if there was just grass with some light markings that would make things more difficult. Suppose it would make sense then to have it set to "within the perimeter".
As it is right now, it's on any part of the concrete whether it's a runway, taxiway or between two hangars, as long as the plane is on the concrete.
Like in the WWI arenas? Who'da thunk it.
And, what exactly would be the difference between a "ditch" and a "combat loss"? Location?
Ok guys thanks for the answers... just had to ask. So how can we get some stuff done around here? say the new gvs and aircraft or just........idk something.
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Maybe fly what's available a little first?
wrongway
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You can actually land anywhere on 'packed dirt' or tarmac...ie you can land on the strip that GVs spawn on on the small base.
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I say make it harder, lose +10 perkies for a ditch on field, off runway
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And, what exactly would be the difference between a "ditch" and a "combat loss"? Location?
Yes, it's location now isn't it? "Land" anywhere except on the concrete or cv deck and it's a ditch. I can understand the reasons why it is the way it is, but there is merit in the argument of putting the plane down anywhere within the perimeter of the airfield and count it as a "safe landing"...trying to belly land a plane that has no landing gear is tough to do...let alone doing it with pieces of wing or stabilizers missing...add a pilot wound and you're really working for it...if you happen to miss the concrete but still put the plane down without blowing it up, it should count for something besides a ditch.
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Maybe fly what's available a little first?
wrongway
Well look me up Ill be with the horde on the Bish side when ENYs killin us ina I16 ora a c47 runnin gv supps to the town how bout ya just go to that handy thing called scores and stats youll see i fly a few a/c not many but a few......Its not a D pony running for home with an oil hit but ya know its something.....but you must know me already, silly me. :cool:
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Yes, it's location now isn't it? "Land" anywhere except on the concrete or cv deck and it's a ditch. I can understand the reasons why it is the way it is, but there is merit in the argument of putting the plane down anywhere within the perimeter of the airfield and count it as a "safe landing"...trying to belly land a plane that has no landing gear is tough to do...let alone doing it with pieces of wing or stabilizers missing...add a pilot wound and you're really working for it...if you happen to miss the concrete but still put the plane down without blowing it up, it should count for something besides a ditch.
Were it in real life, the odds of a shot-up plane landing anywhere else from the tarmac would be severely damaged and more than likely need to be scrapped. It is in no way a "successful landing", and the greatest reward you can expect is that you survived it.
It already counts as something - you're not MIA=KIA=1 death. It counts as a 'ditch' and that's about as good as any 'reward' people deserve.
Otherwise, geez, if people can just crash-land plane anywhere within the field and still land the kills, why the fek would people ever want to try and land safely? You can mow through people in a friggin LALA, and speed yourway to your airfield with angry people behind you, ditch ASAP anywhere on the field and .ef just before enemy fire starts connecting and still be able to get all them kills. That's about the lamest abuse one can think of if we start counting 'ditches within field' as 'safe landings.'
Landings and takeoffs are a vital part of what makes a good pilot, even in simplified environment like in AH, and the ability to counter the effects of your battle damage and safely put it down on the runway counts as something.
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I say make it harder, lose +10 perkies for a ditch on field, off runway
Yup, just for you i suppose?
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Were it in real life, the odds of a shot-up plane landing anywhere else from the tarmac would be severely damaged and more than likely need to be scrapped. It is in no way a "successful landing", and the greatest reward you can expect is that you survived it.
It already counts as something - you're not MIA=KIA=1 death. It counts as a 'ditch' and that's about as good as any 'reward' people deserve.
Otherwise, geez, if people can just crash-land plane anywhere within the field and still land the kills, why the fek would people ever want to try and land safely? You can mow through people in a friggin LALA, and speed yourway to your airfield with angry people behind you, ditch ASAP anywhere on the field and .ef just before enemy fire starts connecting and still be able to get all them kills. That's about the lamest abuse one can think of if we start counting 'ditches within field' as 'safe landings.'
Landings and takeoffs are a vital part of what makes a good pilot, even in simplified environment like in AH, and the ability to counter the effects of your battle damage and safely put it down on the runway counts as something.
Your right sir I merely wanted it to not count as ditch within the perimeter by no means should you be able to land kills there but I dont believe it should be a ditch either. Some people instantly think this about landing kills,I dont. I just dont think it should be a ditch in the middle of the field thats all.
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Were it in real life, the odds of a shot-up plane landing anywhere else from the tarmac would be severely damaged and more than likely need to be scrapped. It is in no way a "successful landing", and the greatest reward you can expect is that you survived it.
Since you went with real life, the pilot is more valuable than the plane...having the pilot survive and return to duty even if his aircraft doesn't, that is the success.
Otherwise, geez, if people can just crash-land plane anywhere within the field and still land the kills, why the fek would people ever want to try and land safely? You can mow through people in a friggin LALA, and speed yourway to your airfield with angry people behind you, ditch ASAP anywhere on the field and .ef just before enemy fire starts connecting and still be able to get all them kills. That's about the lamest abuse one can think of if we start counting 'ditches within field' as 'safe landings.'
Landings and takeoffs are a vital part of what makes a good pilot, even in simplified environment like in AH, and the ability to counter the effects of your battle damage and safely put it down on the runway counts as something.
Hey, I agree it wouldn't work within AH with all the gamey people there are, but I think you missed the part where right now you can put it down anywhere on the field as long as the area of the airplane where the wheels would be is touching concrete when it comes to a stop, it's a safe landing.
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I've landed blacked out, deadstick, with half a wing and didn't know if I was on the runway until I ended sortie. It's more fun when it's more difficult.
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I've landed blacked out, deadstick, with half a wing and didn't know if I was on the runway until I ended sortie. It's more fun when it's more difficult.
wow......guess knife fighting ina phone booth with no lights is difficult. Must be fun I ll have to try that sometime. How bout a I16 over a capped field with 6 guys tryin to vulch you and once youve been shot up you attempt to land and ditch over you own field.......not real fun and I dont think it ever will be.
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wow......guess knife fighting ina phone booth with no lights is difficult. Must be fun I ll have to try that sometime. How bout a I16 over a capped field with 6 guys tryin to vulch you and once youve been shot up you attempt to land and ditch over you own field.......not real fun and I dont think it ever will be.
Don't land at a capped field?
Ditch: (verb): to get rid of : discard <ditch an old car> b : to end association with : leave <ditched school> <his girlfriend ditched him>
It's plenty fair that if you can't park it on the runway, it's a ditch. Hell it should be a ditch if it s so tore up that you can't move it under it's own power upon landing, concrete or not. It has to be ditched or abandoned since you can't taxi or fly it anywhere anymore.
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I once limped home two sectors in an A-20 with no ailerons and no rudder, steering only with my elevators and differential throttle. I made a three point landing on the runway and landed my two kills. It was one of the most satisfying Aces High experiences for me. So yeah, keep things the way they are.
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I once limped home two sectors in an A-20 with no ailerons and no rudder, steering only with my elevators and differential throttle. I made a three point landing on the runway and landed my two kills. It was one of the most satisfying Aces High experiences for me. So yeah, keep things the way they are.
thats why I like haveing 2 engines. :)
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thats why I like haveing 2 engines. :)
Lucky for me i fly w/ 4 engines, but unfortunately some times that's not even enough. However, i enjoy the torque of pulling faster then some fighter planes at high altitudes. :D
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thats why I like haveing 2 engines. :)
That must come in handy in all your offline play...
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That must come in handy in all your offline play...
:noid
the field and ship guns still hit me!