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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Wildcat1 on April 15, 2010, 10:21:33 PM
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im pretty sure all of us scenario nerds want the Ki-43 in the game, as well as the G4M (betty).
and im gonna throw this in there, the J2M3 (ive been wanting it for a long time now :pray):
(http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy329/Wildcat1995/493975140_a28cac1eda.jpg)
its kinda cute, aint it? :) I like to call it "the Japp Jug"
i believe its slightly more nimble than the N1K1, but it has the same firepower with 4x20mm cannons
so please put in your comments and votes for these three planes, i got my +1 in :aok
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I think this plane would be a good new addition to aceshigh. I like the guns seems by its design structure to be maneuverable and fast.
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A lot of people want this AC and i too like to see a new IJ plane added. But which type, there are 11.
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A lot of people want this AC and i too like to see a new IJ plane added. But which type, there are 11.
are you talking about the J2M3 or the Ki-43?
the J2M3 version i would be talking about would be the mass-produced version, the Model 21
could carry up to 120 kg of ords along with a 200 litre centerline drop tank. decent in engine preformance, but a great high-altitude preformer. had 2x20mm Type 99 Model 2 cannons in the fuselage and 2x20mm Type 99 Model 1 cannons in the wing (the Model 2 cannons had a faster rate of fire). compression, like most IJ planes, begins around 375 mph. many call this the best interceptor that Japan ever made in the war.
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are you talking about the J2M3 or the Ki-43?
the J2M3 version i would be talking about would be the mass-produced version, the Model 21
could carry up to 120 kg of ords along with a 200 litre centerline drop tank. decent in engine preformance, but a great high-altitude preformer. had 2x20mm Type 99 Model 2 cannons in the fuselage and 2x20mm Type 99 Model 1 cannons in the wing (the Model 2 cannons had a faster rate of fire). compression, like most IJ planes, begins around 375 mph. many call this the best interceptor that Japan ever made in the war.
Ki-43
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Ki-43
I want it, should make dogfighting a better slice and dice. :D
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if the scale was 0-10 this is a 8.7 :).+1
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Ki-43
ok yeah the two models i was thinking about are the Ki-43 II and th Ki-43 IIIb.
the II had 2x12.7mm MG's in the cowling, while the IIIb had 2x20mm cannons. the IJAAF wasnt very generous on ammo, as the II only had 500 rounds total, and the IIIb had 200. the III model had a more powerful engine, and therefore could go 43 mph faster than the II. both the II and III models could go over 1000 miles on internal feul, and with the addition of 2x45 gal. drop tanks, could travel 1800 miles
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ill take any a6m model. a6m3 a6m5s a6m6. these are all nice ideas though. aaaand M-18 cough
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You could make something like 5 different Ki-43 variants on two models just by using gun package options:
Ki-43-I
- Ki-43-Ia - 2x7.7mm
- Ki-43-Ib - 1x7.7mm and 1x12.7mm
- Ki-43-Ic - 2x12.7mm
Ki-43-III - Uprated engine and drop tank provisions
- Ki-43-IIIa - 2x12.7mm
- Ki-43-IIIb - 2x20mm
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You could make something like 5 different Ki-43 variants on two models just by using gun package options:
Ki-43-I
- Ki-43-Ia - 2x7.7mm
- Ki-43-Ib - 1x7.7mm and 1x12.7mm
- Ki-43-Ic - 2x12.7mm
Ki-43-III - Uprated engine and drop tank provisions
- Ki-43-IIIa - 2x12.7mm
- Ki-43-IIIb - 2x20mm
good idea +1
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I like this plane too, always have...
But Saburo Sakai said, that flying it, was like driving a truck! Hmmmmm?
I think he would know, don't you?
RC
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IMHO, adding the J2M would fit the "nice to have" category, rather than "needed". Only around 500 Raiden (Thunderbolt) were made, slightly more than half of them (~ 260) the J2M3 variant. At a wing loading of 171.3 kilograms per square meter (~ 32.8 pounds per square foot) I don't know that I'd call the J2M3 "nimble", but I agree it would be nice to have.
bino <- still wishing for the Ki-43 in the SEA's
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But Saburo Sakai said, that flying it, was like driving a truck! Hmmmmm?
As long as it drives like this truck, no worries.
(http://www.naspairshow.com/SHOCKWAVEnight.jpg)
If it's anything like this truck forget it.
(http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/ttt/pics/japanese-ww2-military-vehicles/fig4-japanese-military-truck-wwii-ww-ii.jpg)
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You could make something like 5 different Ki-43 variants on two models just by using gun package options:
Ki-43-I
- Ki-43-Ia - 2x7.7mm
- Ki-43-Ib - 1x7.7mm and 1x12.7mm
- Ki-43-Ic - 2x12.7mm
Ki-43-III - Uprated engine and drop tank provisions
- Ki-43-IIIa - 2x12.7mm
- Ki-43-IIIb - 2x20mm
great idea +1 :aok
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You could make something like 5 different Ki-43 variants on two models just by using gun package options:
Ki-43-I
- Ki-43-Ia - 2x7.7mm
- Ki-43-Ib - 1x7.7mm and 1x12.7mm
- Ki-43-Ic - 2x12.7mm
Ki-43-III - Uprated engine and drop tank provisions
- Ki-43-IIIa - 2x12.7mm
- Ki-43-IIIb - 2x20mm
That would leave out the most important version of the Ki-43 though. The Ki-43-II was, far and away, the most important version of the fighter. It was stronger and faster than the Ki-43-I, but not as fast as the Ki-43-III. The Ki-43-III only shows up at the very end of the war, so only having the -I and -III leaves the Japanese with, once again, an earlier version than they should have for most scenarios.
As to the J2M, American pilots who tested it loved it and thought it the best of all Japanese fighters.
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well whose to say we cant have all 3 versions? after all, we have 5 versions of the F4U, 5 of the jug, and 3 of the P38, as well as 7 spits.
we can have the I for flying tigers scenarios, the II for mid-war scenarios, and the III for MA
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You could make something like 5 different Ki-43 variants on two models just by using gun package options:
Ki-43-I
- Ki-43-Ia - 2x7.7mm
- Ki-43-Ib - 1x7.7mm and 1x12.7mm
- Ki-43-Ic - 2x12.7mm
Ki-43-III - Uprated engine and drop tank provisions
- Ki-43-IIIa - 2x12.7mm
- Ki-43-IIIb - 2x20mm
20mm armed versions were prototypes only, they didn't see combat.
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I think this plane would be a good new addition to aceshigh. I like the guns seems by its design structure to be maneuverable and fast.
It wasn't all that maneuvarable, it was a pure local defense interceptor designed to intercept high flying bombers. As such, priority was for speed, climb performance and armament at the expense of maneuverability. Because the Jack didn't have a supercharger, performance as it got higher degraded though it was far more successful at intercepting B-29s than the Ki-100 was.
ack-ack
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im gonna throw this in there, the J2M3 (ive been wanting it for a long time now :pray):
Since January huh?
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Since January huh?
no smart arse, ive been playing since last march, but i just now signed up for the forums
besides, you jolly rogers guys sitting on your high hog need some decent competition :t
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I like this plane too, always have...
But Saburo Sakai said, that flying it, was like driving a truck! Hmmmmm?
I think he would know, don't you?
RC
Sorta, he also complained about the A6M at first and it's 20mm cannons, favoring the A5M and 7.7mm over them I believe.
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Because the Jack didn't have a supercharger, performance as it got higher degraded
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Really? I've read the J2M3 had a ceiling of over 38,000 feet. Pretty hard to get up there without an intake compressor, neh?
EDIT:
This page at the NASM lists the earlier Kasei models 21 and 22 (the J2M3 mounted a model 23a) as both having two-speed "blowers" i.e., superchargers:
http://www.enginehistory.org/Japanese/nasm_research_2.htm (http://www.enginehistory.org/Japanese/nasm_research_2.htm)
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no smart arse, ive been playing since last march, but i just now signed up for the forums
besides, you jolly rogers guys sitting on your high hog need some decent competition :t
Oh excuse me, you've been waiting a year... You must have given up all hope by now.
You claim to be a P-38 expert in your signature I would expect that would make you decent competetion already.
We got our hands full if we run into P-38 guys like Corkyjr, Ack Ack, and others from SAPP and they don't have P-38 expert in their sigs.
You must be awesome.
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Oh excuse me, you've been waiting a year... You must have given up all hope by now.
You claim to be a P-38 expert in your signature I would expect that would make you decent competetion already.
We got our hands full if we run into P-38 guys like Corkyjr, Ack Ack, and others from SAPP and they don't have P-38 expert in their sigs.
You must be awesome.
Wait, wait, wait.....Corkyjr is an expert P-38 breaker not an expert P-38 pilot. Big difference there. :P
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Oh excuse me, you've been waiting a year... You must have given up all hope by now.
You claim to be a P-38 expert in your signature I would expect that would make you decent competetion already.
We got our hands full if we run into P-38 guys like Corkyjr, Ack Ack, and others from SAPP and they don't have P-38 expert in their sigs.
You must be awesome.
what i mean by that is that i know pretty much everything there is to know about the P-38 vs. other aircraft. I am by no means an expert dogfighter :lol
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what i mean by that is that i know pretty much everything there is to know about the P-38 vs. other aircraft. I am by no means an expert dogfighter :lol
Ah... :aok
All that aside I'd like to see the J2m make it into the game as well. Along with K-43 variants and the Ki-44.
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Ah... :aok
All that aside I'd like to see the J2m make it into the game as well. Along with K-43 variants and the Ki-44.
yeah i think it would be a great addition as well
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Really? I've read the J2M3 had a ceiling of over 38,000 feet. Pretty hard to get up there without an intake compressor, neh?
EDIT:
This page at the NASM lists the earlier Kasei models 21 and 22 (the J2M3 mounted a model 23a) as both having two-speed "blowers" i.e., superchargers:
http://www.enginehistory.org/Japanese/nasm_research_2.htm (http://www.enginehistory.org/Japanese/nasm_research_2.htm)
Yep, I think it's quite safe to say that all WWII operational fighters had somesort of supercharger...starting from the lowly Bristol Bulldog powered with the 645hp Mercury. :)
It's a pretty absurd suggestion that a 1850hp piston aircraft engine wouldn't have one. :)