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Title: Russian Pe-8
Post by: Wildcat1 on April 20, 2010, 10:04:31 PM
this was Russia's only 4-engined bomber (besides their copy of the B-29) in the war. it was designed for high-altitude, long-range sorties to Berlin. numerous engine problems plagued this bomber though, it was very under powered and very unreliable, but improvements were seen after fitting the M-82 engines in. saw service in numerous raids deep in German occupied territory from 1940-the end of the war. this would be good in the "nice to have" category IMO.

specs:
max speed@ 20,000 ft: 275 mph
service ceiling: 9500 meters
powerplant: 4x M-82 inline engines at 1700 hp each (post-1942 version)
max bomb load: 4000 kg.
defensive armament: 2x 7.62mm MG's in the nose, 2x 12.7mm MG's under the wings (kind of an interesting placement), 1x 20mm cannon in dorsal turret and 1x 20mm turret in tail (yes, the crappy Russian ShVAK cannons)

(http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy329/Wildcat1995/Zvezda_Pe-8_72_cover.jpg)

Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: Killer91 on April 21, 2010, 01:26:44 AM
+1  I'd like to see a new bomber in the game  :aok
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: RaptorL on April 21, 2010, 06:55:22 AM
+ :aok
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: thndregg on April 21, 2010, 08:24:35 AM
Crappy or not, I'd fly it. :)
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: Masherbrum on April 21, 2010, 08:28:49 AM
Pe-8 and the G4M need to be in here.
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: TOMCAT21 on April 21, 2010, 08:34:52 AM
+1  :aok
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: waystin2 on April 21, 2010, 09:43:54 AM
A big +1. :aok
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: 1COOLER on April 21, 2010, 11:51:38 AM
A new bomber would be great!   :aok  :aok
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: Wildcat1 on April 21, 2010, 12:29:22 PM
Crappy or not, I'd fly it. :)

says the guy who sends in 30+ B5N's on one mission  :rofl

but i agree, i love flying the lower-end planes  :)
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: Yossarian on April 21, 2010, 01:40:08 PM
+1, this plane looks pretty sweet, and its bombload would make a nice companion to the Lancaster.
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: Vadjan-Sama on April 21, 2010, 01:56:20 PM
Isn't in my priority list but should be nice to have another heavy bomber that isn't from EU/England, and looks cool.  :cheers:

+2  :salute
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: ACE on April 21, 2010, 01:58:58 PM
 +1
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: Pannono on April 21, 2010, 02:54:06 PM
+1
I posted this a while back and it got a lot of positive reviews
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,240368.0.html
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: kingcobradude on April 21, 2010, 03:20:09 PM
+1 I want that bomber. another plane for me to blast bases in
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: Krusty on April 22, 2010, 01:00:09 PM
Has almost no place in the war. Was a VIP transport, that's its claim to fame.
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: gyrene81 on April 22, 2010, 01:09:44 PM
Has almost no place in the war. Was a VIP transport, that's its claim to fame.
LOL...here we go again....it does fit the criteria for inclusion Krusty.
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: Krusty on April 22, 2010, 01:17:48 PM
Sure... The criteria are not very demanding.

Read up on it. Seriously, the Soviets barely used the things. They did NOT have a big heavy bomber fleet, and they did NOT do carpet bombing like the US and Britain did. Folks keep requesting it because they think it's big therefore important, but the opposite is true. The Fw200 condor was more important to the war than this plane was. It had longer range, too. It even carried bombs! Zomgbbq!


*insert old rolleyes here*
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: Karnak on April 22, 2010, 01:45:18 PM
Krusty is exaggerating a bit, but is essentially correct.  The Pe-8 played a very minor roll in WWII.

The Russian bombers we should be asking for are the SB-2, Il-4, Pe-2 and Tu-2.
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: Beefcake on April 22, 2010, 04:47:30 PM
The He-111 was also a transport that was converted for bomber use but yet everyone begs for it.

However, in the scope of things I do agree that the Tu-2 would probably be a better bomber to add in. I like flying big heavy bombers and the Pe-8 with its armament would be a GREAT MA bomber, but in the end, the time to model it would equal that of 2 medium bombers.

Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: Simba on April 23, 2010, 06:29:34 PM
"The He-111 was also a transport that was converted for bomber use".

'Twas the other way round, dear feller: it was a bomber poorly disguised as a civilian transport. On the other hand, the Dornier Do17 started life as a slimline mailplane with room for a very few passengers who had to perform contortions to take their seats; unsurprisingly Lufthansa rejected it but the new Luftwaffe found a use for a development of it as a recce-bomber.

 :cool:

 
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: sparow on April 23, 2010, 06:48:06 PM
The He-111 was also a transport that was converted for bomber use but yet everyone begs for it.

Please, Beefcake, the He-111 was the main Luftwaffe bomber for in Early War, BoB and Barbarossa, and more! We don't beg it because of it's looks or performances, we beg for it because it is as basic in a WW2 game like the Spitfite or the 109!

I also agree that the Pe-8 is not worth modelling. This was a total flop at the time and didn't had a significant role during the war. There are other soviet bombers that had a real role in the war and should be represented in AH. The Tupolev and the Pe-2 come to mind. Never before the 111, the Betty and the SM-79, please.

Cheers,
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: jay on April 24, 2010, 03:27:59 AM
would love to have this plane +2
Title: Re: Russian Pe-8
Post by: SmokinLoon on April 24, 2010, 09:43:05 AM
The Pe-2 or Tu-2 would be a more logical choice.  The Soviets had far more of them and they made a much larger impact on the war.