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Special Events Forums => Scenario General => Topic started by: perdue3 on April 29, 2010, 11:00:46 AM
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When will CiC's be announced? Also, when will registration open? And if I want to request a GL spot, do I need to do that before registration opens?
Of course, some of these questions may not be able to be answered but if anyone can throw a "ballpark" date that would be fantastic. Thank you for the replies.
perdweeb
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It will still be a a bit still before schedules are nailed down.
The best we have so far is starting the next scenario perhaps (i.e., not for sure) in later June, but it might be July instead of late June. Once we have a solid idea of schedule and the rules are written up and posted, then we'll pick the CO's, open registration, etc. That will probably be a few weeks from now at the earliest.
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Good deal. Thanks for the "future peeking" Brooke. U da man!
perdweeb
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so.... two weeks
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Our schedule so far is to have the rule set done by end of this month, then proceed with CO's, registration, etc.
It will be a late-war battle in the Philippines.
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That sounds inticing! :)
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If it is late June or July, I hope you'll consider not having it fall on the Holiday weekend... Pretty please? :pray
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Thanks for the update, and as Vudak pointed out please beware the prime camping/BBQ/beach holiday 3-day weekends coming up around that timeframe.
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any word on dates?
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any word on dates?
Not yet.
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Brooke do you know which P-38 FGs will be involved? 475th I assume, and possibly the 8th and the 49th?
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Will the consortium of 12 appear before us mortals in the next scenario? The amount of mayhem and destruction they create will cause an influx unprecedented! :old:
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Brooke do you know which P-38 FGs will be involved? 475th I assume, and possibly the 8th and the 49th?
It's a late-war scenario, so they'll be J's and L's. Fencer has them listed as from the 431st, 432nd, and 80th FS.
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its juuuune! a few more winks and scenario will be ready, i hope. :x :x :x
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The anxiety is killing me... :uhoh
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Oh Brooke.....
Dirty Dora isn't happy about the lack of updates on the next scenario.
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/DirtyDoraAngry.png)
Don't make her angry!
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The revised scenario was posted for review tonight. It should go public realitively soon.
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The revised scenario was posted for review tonight. It should go public realitively soon.
Thanks for the update fencer.
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I hope I am dressed appropriately...
(http://www.lgmfilms.net/AH/Scenario/SamuraiKermitv1%20copy.png)
I hope the P38s of the 80th HeadHunters will find an honorable death by my sword.
I think I will start with the little one, known as Zap...
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Holycrap.......wow
:rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
On a side note I see we're going to be enemies again. :( Unless Fencer does something terrible and omits the B25 from the next event.
PS Fencer if that happens then I can't be held responsible for what Dirty Dora does to you.
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I tried my hardest to convert Beefcake to full german iron and the mighty Ar 234. But I guess the B-25 is more attractive. :( We have jet engines! :(
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:salute Spikes I'd fly Ar234's with you anytime it's just I doubt the Ar234 is going to be used in a 1945 Pacific Campaign. :D
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:salute Spikes I'd fly Ar234's with you anytime it's just I doubt the Ar234 is going to be used in a 1945 Pacific Campaign. :D
They used 262s in a pacific scenario a long time ago for balance :P
I wish the 234 came earlier so it could be used more!
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My fellow Bomber buffs, you boys want me in the scenario to come, just ask. Cant guarantee a full time spot, but I will happily fill in.
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Rumors of the 80th HH calling upon SAPP grow rampant in their silence. :uhoh
The anticipation towards the next scenario becomes stronger with each passing day. :x
The next scenario was said to take place somewhere in the Pacific... :noid
Will it be East vs West, or man against man. :old:
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SAPP? Are they the ones who fly Spit 16's exclusively? I'm not sure they'll be interested in this one. ;)
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I think I'll have to rejoin the 80th if Kermit is going to pick a fight with them. :devil
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(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/SamuraiKermitv1copy.png)
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Those pesky South Pacific mosquitoes are of no match for my armor. ;)
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:lol
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:lol
Bullets ineffective, switching to bombs.
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/SamuraiKermitv1BeingBombed.png)
:D
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I hope to collect the whole set.
(http://www.lgmfilms.net/AH/Scenario/SamuraiKermitv1_vsP38s%20copy.png)
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:lol
Thanks Kermit! You have no idea how hard it was to cut out that B25 using only MS paint. :rofl
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My 109 dweebs (in Ki 61) vs a bunch of 38 dweebs?
Puhlease. I thought this game was hard pfft.
perdweeb
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If the father is a frog, the son will be a frog.
-Japanese Proverb
:old:
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The revised scenario was posted for review tonight. It should go public realitively soon.
after reading this, I decided to go to the AHevents.org site and noticed it has since been updated .
my saved username & password was not there/not loading
and when clicking on reset password or re-send password the link wouldnot work.....
who do I need to contact in order to be able to log back in?
ahevents username is Tequilachaser
my email address is tequilachaser ( at) gmail (dot) com
any help would be appreciated......
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Ok a few things..
First of all F4U-1As were added in place of one squadron of F4U-1Ds.. so both types will be used, I love online no longer top secret documents archives which allow you to find exactly which planes a unit had on strength when and where they were based.
Secondly, all B-25s were removed from the event.
Thirdly, P-38s are being used to replace the B-25s. I figured one type of light bomber was enough. Guns will be disabled using the new ability given by HTC.
Fourth, P-51s are replacing all P-38s in the P-38 squadrons due to the above.
And.. its not posted yet. Brooke is a tad busy with real life, it should go up tomorrow or Sunday. (added pressure put on the Boss)
Lastly I have started the write up for the next one, and it's gonna be epic..
(note only 3 things are true in the above, you can figure that part out)
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after reading this, I decided to go to the AHevents.org site and noticed it has since been updated .
my saved username & password was not there/not loading
and when clicking on reset password or re-send password the link wouldnot work.....
who do I need to contact in order to be able to log back in?
ahevents username is Tequilachaser
my email address is tequilachaser ( at) gmail (dot) com
any help would be appreciated......
I will see what I can find out.
Note to all: you must use www.ahevents.org now.. try that TC.
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I will see what I can find out.
Note to all: you must use www.ahevents.org now.. try that TC.
Heya Fencer,
this is the page I was having trouble with:
http://www.ahevents.org/component/comprofiler/lostpassword.html
it would not open the drop down menu, when clicking on either of the two check boxes
I just went and fired up my firefox and tried it there.. and was able to request a new password via my firefox browser
just not able to get it to work in IE 7.....
thanks though for your help, I think I got it fixed now
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That was the reply I got from Lurch. That IE7 and IE8 may be causing problems, he also said he was going to reset your password and send it too you via email.
Glad to see you got in.
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Secondly, all B-25s were removed from the event.
But....
But....but.....*tears up*
The B25 was apart of this battle! It deserves to be here! Why....why......*blubbers like a baby* :cry
AWW CRAP DIRTY DORA IS LOOSE!
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/B25Mad2.png)
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It doesn't far to go, about 12 inches since the source file is setting on my hard drive to my left... :lol
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Fencer, you shouldn't be such a tease. You probably gave some folks heart attacks with all of those fake announcements.
Also, I thought, we talked about this and agreed that all P-38's and B-25's were to be replaced with Sopwith Camels, to bring in the little-known but thoroughly historical WWI flavor of this late-war Philippines battle?
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Fencer, you shouldn't be such a tease. You probably gave some folks heart attacks with all of those fake announcements.
Also, I thought, we talked about this and agreed that all P-38's and B-25's were to be replaced with Sopwith Camels, to bring in the little-known but thoroughly historical WWI flavor of this late-war Philippines battle?
Ah yeah I forgot that, but the Mustangs stay right?
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It doesn't matter too much what I get to fly, as long as I can keep my sexy uniform I'll be good to go.
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Fencer, you shouldn't be such a tease. You probably gave some folks heart attacks with all of those fake announcements.
Also, I thought, we talked about this and agreed that all P-38's and B-25's were to be replaced with Sopwith Camels, to bring in the little-known but thoroughly historical WWI flavor of this late-war Philippines battle?
Thought the 38s were being replaced by Bristol Fighters? I need a rear gunner.
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Ok a few things..
TRUE ---> First of all F4U-1As were added in place of one squadron of F4U-1Ds.. so both types will be used, I love online no longer top secret documents archives which allow you to find exactly which planes a unit had on strength when and where they were based.
TRUE ---> And.. its not posted yet. Brooke is a tad busy with real life, it should go up tomorrow or Sunday. (added pressure put on the Boss)
TRUE ---> Lastly I have started the write up for the next one, and it's gonna be epic..
(note only 3 things are true in the above, you can figure that part out)
how did I do?
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Didn't do to well TC. Fencer PM'd me and said that he was sorry for removing the B25's but he feels they're crap planes anyway.
Everything above ^^^^ is also false.
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Everything above ^^^^ is also false.
aw man, i wanted the 25s as well. :cry
its all in the fine print^^^^^^^^^
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Thought the website would be updated?
perdweeb
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The scenario page is out of service.... chances are they are updating the page for the new scenario.
Otherwise, use this post as notification that the site isn't working right. :D
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FYI, just got off the phone with Brooke.
We have finalized the design, setting and victory aspects and I need to make final modifications to the write up.
I will get that done in the next couple days.
Sorry guys, but real life does take some of our time. ;)
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Say it isnt so...... :banana:
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I spent almost all day clicking refresh on the scenarios post :confused:
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I spent almost all day clicking refresh on the scenarios post :confused:
:rofl
I bet today was one of the longest days you ever had?
Been there, done that, but not in this thread. :)
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:rofl
I bet today was one of the longest days you ever had?
Been there, done that, but not in this thread. :)
the utter disappointment after every time I clicked was the worst.
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I'm starting the process here:
http://ahevents.org/scenario-current-or-next.html
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I'm starting the process here:
http://ahevents.org/scenario-current-or-next.html
Finally!!!!!! :D :aok :aok
:lol
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That looks like a pretty fun setup... Curses that I can't make it!
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Saw that earlier Brooke right after fud posted again :) Figured I wouldn't tell him :)
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no way....
JUUUUUUGGSSSS!!!!! :x
ty ty ty brooke for the Jugs!!!!! :rock
oh, btw, will the new phillipines map be available for download? i wanna get some practice in :salute
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oh, btw, will the new phillipines map be available for download? i wanna get some practice in :salute
AHMINDAN09.exe is available for download on HTCs terrain page, under "Special Events, Axis versus Allies, Dueling, and Training Arena Terrains".
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Some recommended reading..
Flying Buccaneers - The Illustrated Story of Kenney's Fifth Air Force by Steve Birdsall ISBN 0-385-03218-8
At War With The Wind by David Sears ISBN 0-8065-2893-1
Possum, Clover & Hades: The 475th Fighter Group in World War II (Schiffer Military History) by John Stanaway ISBN 0-887-40518-5
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Oh FWIW, this won't matter to anyone probably, but the option to fly the B-25H (sub for J model) in lieu of a formation of C models will be added.
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:x Can't wait to see the writeup.
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:x
Can't wait!
Really recommend "Flying Buccaneers" it's a great general history of the 5th AF during WW2. You can find it online for under $10.
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&tn=Flying+Buccaneers&x=0&y=0 (http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&tn=Flying+Buccaneers&x=0&y=0)
A couple other good ones that I've gotten over the last few years in case anyone is interested.
"Attack & Conquer: The 8th Fighter Group in World War II" - by John Stanaway & Lawrence Hickey
"Warpath Across The Pacific: The Illutrated history of the 345th Bombardment Group During World War II" - Lawrence Hickey
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Good books Soulyss, I will add them to the recommended reading on the writeup. I have the 345th book, it's excellent.
Oh.. almost forgot..
Lets get ready to Rumble!
(http://www.51hangar.net/fencer/Promo.png)
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:x :x
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The Dance of Death...a dance we Samurai are all very familiar with...
:salute
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Wow, very exciting, indeed.
I can see it now, U.S. and Japanese fighter duking it out over the skies of the Philippines
Its sounds awsome :x
Just one question....
Just what is a "Phandango" :headscratch:
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Oh I can't wait, I wanna lead the 345th BG!
(http://500thbsq-b25s.com/photosthen/345hq.jpg)
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Just what is a "Phandango" :headscratch:
http://www.ehow.com/how_2067100_dance-fandango.html
Ever heard of the practice of making everthing a "ph" when dealing with the F-4 Phantom..
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http://www.ehow.com/how_2067100_dance-fandango.html
Ever heard of the practice of making everthing a "ph" when dealing with the F-4 Phantom..
Ah, now it makes sense. :aok
Sums up what the action should be perfectly.
As to the Phantom thing, I think I've heard of something like that a few years ago.
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Avatar created.
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Avatar created.
flying for the land of the rising sun brooke?
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flying for the land of the rising sun brooke?
Yep. I'm always happy to fly for either side, and Fencer wants to fly US, so it's Imperial Japan for me. :salute :aok
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We are planning to have a draft of the rules up in the next several days. Things are moving along nicely toward a planned start of the battle in late July. I'm getting excited about it, so I had to create a promo:
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/misc/aces_high/phandangoPromo.gif)
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I just might have to fly a Niki...
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Niki? Hmmm
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N1K sounds like fun!
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I love Niki's too!
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/Nik-1.jpg)
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I hope to have time for this one, would only be my second scenario... Saturdays are taken except over the summer :) .
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you know what i love? roasted Ki
i start by seasoning the nose with my signature spice "Essence of .50 cal"
(http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy329/Wildcat1995/deadki.jpg)
next, i flash-roast it with my new, powerful grill called "The Jug"
(http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy329/Wildcat1995/oneunfortunateKi.jpg)
i personally prefer to do all the prep work with 8 .50 cals, but 6 .50 cals or even 4 20mm can work, it's all up to the cook :aok
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CiC's been announced?
perdweeb
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if i want a GL spot, should i PM the CO when he's picked?
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Once we get the draft of the rules posted (so that prospective CO's can see it), we'll select CO's, and then CO's will be the ones to select GL's.
We should have a draft of the rules up shortly. Once they are up, I will announce it and make a call for CO volunteers.
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Once we get the draft of the rules posted (so that prospective CO's can see it), we'll select CO's, and then CO's will be the ones to select GL's.
We should have a draft of the rules up shortly. Once they are up, I will announce it and make a call for CO volunteers.
So that means today :x :x
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Once we get the draft of the rules posted (so that prospective CO's can see it), we'll select CO's, and then CO's will be the ones to select GL's.
We should have a draft of the rules up shortly. Once they are up, I will announce it and make a call for CO volunteers.
Please release the draft so fud will stop texting & PMing me asking me when I think the rules will come out!
:P
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Please release the draft so fud will stop texting & PMing me asking me when I think the rules will come out!
:P
I've never done such a thing :uhoh
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Really sitting on the edge of my seat for this one....better watch out for my P38.....ill give you a free kill.
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So many choices and so little time... :) Oh wait, I have time!
:old:
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I just wish that the next one gets going so you all forget about TFB :rolleyes:
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whilst I hate Kermit and will seek him out at every opportunity. Our squadron and associates have been voting Pro-Japanese in our poll so far.
Which does surprise me, however, as a fair and free democracy, I have to go with the majority of opinion.
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I just wish the slacker CMs would post the bloody writeup! :noid
Ok I made command decision, I added a link showing the current writeup. Then I removed it when I realized that an important portion had not been linked as of yet.
Brooke is real busy at this time in real life and he usually handles all the manipulations of the AHEvents website material, but I will wrap it up tomorrow if he cannot get it done tonight..
And the design for the next one is underway, it is going to be epic in alot of ways.. :banana:
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Democracy in The Few Bruv?
Wimps, Dictatorship in KN. We flyin Jap.
perdweeb
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I just wish the slacker CMs would post the bloody writeup! :noid
Ok I made command decision, I added a link showing the current writeup. Then I removed it when I realized that an important portion had not been linked as of yet.
Brooke is real busy at this time in real life and he usually handles all the manipulations of the AHEvents website material, but I will wrap it up tomorrow if he cannot get it done tonight..
And the design for the next one is underway, it is going to be epic in alot of ways.. :banana:
OK, OK . . .
I will get it all linked in today or tonight.
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OK, OK . . .
I will get it all linked in today or tonight.
Which will be well with in the "two weeks" previously promised. :rofl
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Which will be well with in the "two weeks" previously promised. :rofl
Absolutely. As we all know "two weeks" is a term of the art with a very precise and well-defined meaning, namely "sometime within the indefinite future".
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Absolutely. As we all know "two weeks" is a term of the art with a very precise and well-defined meaning, namely "sometime within the indefinite future".
:huh i thought it was 20 minutes?
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"20 minutes" is different, that is "sometime in the indefinite future, but less than 'two weeks'".
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"20 minutes" is different, that is "sometime in the indefinite future, but less than 'two weeks'".
:lol
but, if it's your wife, it's "yes dear, rite away dear"
^^tip i picked up from the good men of the 353rd :salute
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OK, OK . . .
I will get it all linked in today or tonight.
I figured the thought of me bumbling through the website would promote action! :devil
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I always liked "It will be ready at the appropriate juncture, in the fulness of time."
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whilst I hate Kermit and will seek him out at every opportunity. Our squadron and associates have been voting Pro-Japanese in our poll so far.
Which does surprise me, however, as a fair and free democracy, I have to go with the majority of opinion.
In frame 1 of Krupp Steel, as I performed my duty of protecting our Ju88 pilots with 11 other fellow German pilots, my passion for killing commies intensified as word of Dantoo's La7's engine was seen smoking. I soon found myself with a shot opportunity and I proudly fired at SirNuke's La7 providing him a quick death and soon after I was able to disable the engine of the Allied CO Have. Seeing the reduction of Soviet planes as well as the Ju88 pilots still alive, it was a great moment to be a German pilot of the Luftwaffe.
That moment soon past as my eyes made visible of German planes falling out of the sky leaving my 109G6 as the only one in a position to protect our Ju88s. I continued to harass your fellow P39 squadron denying them any kills on the Ju88s, but eventually your La7 horde came to their rescue. As I dodged a few La7 attacks I took a shot at another P39 when you came along and put that last ping in my vertical stabilizer. I felt cheated and dishonored to have to bow out of this fight since I still had ammo available and nearly my entire plane intact. As I floated downwards from 20k, I quietly turned off my engine as it no longer had a purpose. I still remember listening to the sounds of Junker Ju88 engines roaring away with Soviet La7 and Lend lease P39 engines all around closing in on the now undefended Ju88s.
After hearing the news of the death of all Ju88s, 109G6s and knowing that you received credit for my plane being shot down, my heart was immediately filled with vengeance, causing me to think of nothing else but hunting you down and killing you myself. During our second sortie, our squadron G6s fought bravely against hordes of Yaks and La7s all running from our slower G6s. Our German squad flew tight and together, which probably was the main reason for the hordes of Soviet pilots to fear our outnumbered and alone squadron of G6s. As time past, we Germans suffered heavy losses, but I and two others were able to remain alive and gladly resumed our hunt of Soviet fighters with myself hunting for you specifically. It was now very clear that your death by my hands was your destiny, for I now had a mission not of escort, but of a fighter sweep.
Eventually myself and two other G6s came across your lone La7, and I immediately dove to close in to 400 yards! Sadly our separation would exponential increase after a mere few seconds of closing to 400 yards as the G6's top speed was no match for the La7's top speed. After a sector my two wingmen broke off, but as I had raged filled eyes, I could only see the red from your icon so I continued pursuit for two more sectors. In the end, you ran out of sight never to show your plane again in the presence of any 109G6 for the rest of the scenario.
Moral of story:
The Way of the Samurai is found in death. When it comes to either/or, there is only the quick choice of death. It is not particularly difficult. Be determined and advance. To say that dying without reaching one's aim is to die a dog's death is the frivolous way of sophisticates. When pressed with the choice of life or death, it is not necessary to gain one's aim.
We all want to live. And in large part we make our logic according to what we like. But not having attained our aim and continuing to live is cowardice. This is a thin dangerous line. To die without gaining one's aim is a dog's death and fanaticism. But there is no shame in this. This is the substance of the Way of the Samurai. If by setting one's heart right every morning and evening, one is able to live as though his body were already dead, he gains freedom in the Way. His whole life will be without blame, and he will succeed in his calling.Yamamoto Tsunetomo (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Yamamoto_Tsunetomo)
Bruv, the empire needs all the help it can get, but to save this empire, it needs the greatest Samurai possible!
Learn to die and you will learn to live. :old:
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Current version of rules writeup for Philippine Phandango -- not yet finalized:
http://ahevents.org/images/stories/scenarios_images/201007_philippinePhandango/rules.html
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i might just have to fly corsairs on this one....
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I have never heard of XXXX, what a noob.
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I have never heard of XXXX, what a noob.
yeah, and whats the United States Marine Corp? :lol
looks like alot of fun
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I figured the thought of me bumbling through the website would promote action! :devil
...and I see no difference in your ability to "bumble thru the website" :O :neener: :joystick:
Seemed to be a natural thing for you! :D
<runs>
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I will be in contact with one of the potential C.O.'s for an XO duty, most likely allied.
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Bruv, the empire needs all the help it can get, but to save this empire, it needs the greatest Samurai possible!
Learn to die and you will learn to live. :old:
I will work feverishly on my Samurai technique Kermit San!
My men will fight like lions and roar at the heart of the enemy, sharpening our blades by day and by night to inflict fatal damage upon them.
BANZAIIII!!!
Konichiwa Kermit :salute
xoxoxx
(http://www3.ocn.ne.jp/~tokyo5/images/naval.gif)
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October 29th, 1944
Simmons, John LT. USN
It's been twelve days since we've landed on the Island of Leyte, and almost four since we've seen any action. On the 25th, we saw a single jap plane on our tower radar. He was probably a scout, as we saw him circle over the base, probably radioing back information. Our ack-ack gunners took him down before we even got the chance to get airborne. I bought that gun's crew chief a few beers at the O'club afterwards. That's when we recieved the news that the St Lo had been lost. The loss of a carrier always stings deep inside me, ever since the Battle of the Coral sea, some two years ago. That was the last time I flew in combat.
On the morning of May 7th, 1942, I upped with VF-2 from our beloved carrier Lexington in our Wildcats. We were a great bunch of guys; me, Upton, Johnson, Brown, Smith, and Woods, our flight lead. A cocky group, but good at our profession: dogfighting. Anyways, we upped, and started our escort of the Avenger torpedo planes. We ran into the jap carrier groups, circled overhead, and watched the Avengers take down one of their CVs. We were wondering why there was so little opposition, but we got our answer two minutes later. VF-4, our sister squadron defending Yorktown, was practically begging for help, as an entire air group of Vals and Zekes were attacking. We hauled arse to get there, and engaged as soon as possible. I spotted a Val, manuvered to it's 6, and quickly took it down. Then, a Zeke was on my flight leader's tail, and got into position to take him down. He broke, and throttled back. I was now in close, too close. As i shot him up and tore off his tail, a 5" shell from our own ack-ack gunners exploded right in front of me. The jap, who was already going down, burst into a fireball. shrapnel punched into my engine, knocking it out. Even worse, a peice of shrapnel went into my left shoulder. Blacking out from pain and blood loss, i quickly ditched the plane into the water, 100 yards away from lexington. To my horror, the japs kept comming, and the Lexington was doomed. She went down, and I passed out.
three hours later, a US Destroyer picked me up. I was in bad shape, the doc said. Any more blood loss and I would have died. They fixed me up, and after about a year in rehabilitation classes, my arm was back to normal. I was transfered out of VF-2, into the Marine's VMF-211, since they were short handed. I now had to learn an entirely new plane; the F4U Corsair. At first, I thought it was going to be the end of me, but then I got the hang of it. The marines at first couldn't stop jeering at me; a Navy puke in a Marine Corps Squadron? But I think the've learned to respect me now.
So we're just sitting on standby, waiting for the big show to begin. Our GL has come down with malairia, so they might put me as GL for this battle. I cant wait to get back in the skies again, i've learned much since Coral, and when i fight the japs this time, it's going to be personal........
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Just a little historical food for thought.
You may want to consider renaming one of the VC squadrons (FM-2) to VC-80, since we have that skin in game. Also VC-80 was on CVE-61 (USS Manila Bay) during this time, it would be cool to have that line up historically.
Just a thought,
<S> Baumer
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Oooo I just noticed that the B25 squadron can use Cs or Hs, this should be fun. Will drones still be enabled for the Cs?
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*B-25Cs are limited to flying at or below 16,000 ft. Non-level bombing is approved. B-25s may use any nose layout available. Pilot option to use the B-25C with formations or the B-25H.
Which was evidently removed from the version of the write up posted.. I will see it gets added back in.
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It is OK. The rules don't say "you can't do that", so you can do it. For example, rules don't say FM-2's can use drop tanks, so they can use drop tanks, etc.
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This one looks like a blast. Going Axis this time. Really wanting to get me and my guys into one of the single engined Ki's. For the emperor :D
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Old Japanese Saying: "War is not about who is right, it is about who is left."
It is time to prepare for battle!
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Old Japanese Saying: "War is not about who is right, it is about who is left."
It is time to prepare for battle!
for those of you who are about to die, i'm sure your government will tell your families that you "died with honor in a glorious battle that's going to win the war for the Emporer"
well, my friends, the truth is, we are unstoppable
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Hey, stop that guy! There's some Australian running off with the American flag while everyone's busy fighting!
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Hey, stop that guy! There's some Australian running off with the American flag while everyone's busy fighting!
:rofl :rofl :aok
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Men, fix bayonets!!
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:rofl
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while that photo is not from a WWII movie, do you know why a lot of Marines chose the 1911 .45 over the M1 Carbine?
because "it could stop a jap with one round" ;)
I hope you are ready
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There is a story of a B17 pilot who was shot down and while was floating to Earth a Zeke came to kill him but he put a round to the Zeke's pilot's head. The Zeke went down and they later saw a bullet hole in the side of the pilot's head.
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There is a story of a B17 pilot who was shot down and while was floating to Earth a Zeke came to kill him but he put a round to the Zeke's pilot's head. The Zeke went down and they later saw a bullet hole in the side of the pilot's head.
i heard that story too.....
got him with "that one golden bb"
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Source: http://www.sightm1911.com/1911%20Myth.htm#2d%20Lt.%20Owen%20J.%20Baggett (http://www.sightm1911.com/1911%20Myth.htm#2d%20Lt.%20Owen%20J.%20Baggett)
Many extraordinary encounters took place in the skies of World War II but none more bizarre than this.
The Tenth Air Force in India was, 5 throughout most of its life, the smallest of the AAF’s combat air forces but with a large geographical area of responsibility and an important mission. It was responsible for helping to defend the supply line from India to China and for interdicting the Japanese supply net running from Rangoon, Burma, to the north of that country. Its heavy bomber force – consisting of a few B-24s – was the 7th Bomb Group, based at Pandaveswar, northwest of Calcutta, whence it flew very long missions to targets mostly in Burma. On March 31, 1943, the 7th BG’s 9th Bomb Squadron was dispatched to destroy a railroad bridge at Pyinmana, about halfway between Rangoon and Mandalay and near two active enemy fighter bases. The formation was led by Col. Conrad F. Necrason, 7th BG commander, The B-24 on his right wing was piloted by 1st Lt. Lloyd Jensen whose copilot was 2d Lt. Owen J. Baggett. On that mission, Baggett was to earn a distinction believed to be unique in Air Force history. Before reaching the target, the B- 24s were attacked by fighters. Colonel Necrason was severely wounded, and Jensen’s aircraft was fatally damaged. Oxygen bottles were shattered, intensifying a fire in the rear of Jensen’s bomber. Nineteen-year-old Sgt. Samuel Crostic slid out of his top turret, grabbed two fire extinguishers, and fought the fire in the rear of the aircraft while standing on a catwalk over the open bomb bay. The plane still was under attack by enemy fighters, taking many hits along its fuselage. To help defend the aircraft, copilot Baggett took over the top turret until Sergeant Crostic had emptied his fire extinguishers, giving the crew time to prepare for bailout. Smoke and fumes filled the 8-24. Jensen ordered the crew to bail out.
With the intercom inoperative, Baggett hand-signaled the gunners to hit the silk and, nearly overcome by fumes, put on his own chute. He next remembers floating down with a good chute. He saw four more open canopies before the bomber exploded. The Japanese pilots immediately began strafing the surviving crewmen, apparently killing some of them and grazing Lieutenant Baggett’s arm. The pilot who had hit Baggett circled to finish him off or perhaps only to get a better look at his victim. Baggett pretended to be dead, hoping the Zero pilot would not fire again. In any event, the pilot opened his canopy and approached within feet of Baggett’s chute, nose up and on the verge of a stall. Baggett, enraged by the strafing of his helpless crew mates, raised the .45 automatic concealed against his leg and fired four shots at the open cockpit. The Zero stalled and spun in.
After Baggett hit the ground, enemy pilots continued to strafe him, but he escaped by hiding behind a tree. Lieutenant Jensen and one of the gunners landed near him. All three were captured by the Burmese and turned over to the Japanese. Sergeant Crostic also survived the bail-out. Baggett and Jensen were flown out of Burma in an enemy bomber and imprisoned near Singapore. In the more than two years he was held prisoner, Owen Baggett’s weight dropped from 180 pounds to ninety. He had ample time to think about his midair dual. He did not at first believe it possible that he could have shot down the enemy while swinging in his chute, but gradually pieces of the puzzle came together. Shortly after he was imprisoned, Baggett, Jensen, and another officer were taken before a Japanese major general who was in charge of all POWs in the area and who subsequently was executed as a war criminal. Baggett appeared to be treated like a celebrity. He was offered the opportunity of and given instructions on how to do the "honorable thing" – commit hara-kiri, a proposal he declined.
A few months later, Col. Harry Melton, commander of the 311th Fighter Group who had been shot down, passed through the POW camp and told Baggett that a Japanese colonel said the pilot Owen Baggett had fired at had been thrown clear of his plane when it crashed and burned. He was found dead of a single bullet in his head. Colonel Melton intended to make an official report of the incident but lost his life when the ship on which he was being taken to Japan was sunk. Two other pieces of evidence support Baggett’s account: First, no friendly fighters were in the area that could have downed the Zero pilot. Second, the incident took place at an altitude of 4,000 to 5,000 feet. The pilot could have recovered from an unintentional stall and spin. Retired Colonel Baggett, now living in San Antonio, Tex., believes he shot down the Japanese pilot, but because that judgment is based on largely indirect and circumstantial evidence, he remains reluctant to talk much about it. We think the jury no longer is out. There appears to be no reasonable doubt that Owen Baggett performed a unique act of valor, unlikely to be repeated in the unfolding annals of air warfare.
Thanks to Colonel Baggett and to Charles V. Duncan, Jr., author of B-24 Over Burma.
AIR FORCE Magazine / July 1996
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OK, we have the schedule set:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,291791.0.html
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Please note that registration will open on July 2 at 8 pm Eastern Time, and folks will fly what they register for (no moving by CO).
So, if you want a particular plane or to fly with particular people, please register early enough so that what you want is not taken up by others.
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Please note that registration will open on July 2 at 8 pm Eastern Time, and folks will fly what they register for (no moving by CO).
So, if you want a particular plane or to fly with particular people, please register early enough so that what you want is not taken up by others.
Did you guys update or upgrade the registration process?
Of course in the past, the granularity was typically by genre of ride: fighter, bomber, attack, vehicle...
I would guess that if the CO cannot re-shuffle his deck, the process/server front end has a new face and allows for 'sign up by unit' ?????
If that is indeed the case...will the CO's be allowed to re-shuffle or re-allign prior to Frame 1?
The beta might expose issues that could be resolved by a CO, through some minor re-alignment prior to Frame 1...are there any thoughts or considerations for that?
Oneway
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We will be discussing this with the COs.
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Are CO's being subject to confidentiality at the moment or did you guys just forget to tell us?
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What's with the negative waves...
COs are always subject to more information than the walkin and kick the tires and light the fires Scenario player.
That is why there is a forum for them to ask questions and discuss items between them and the CMs.
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Are CO's being subject to confidentiality at the moment or did you guys just forget to tell us?
I heard a rumor that no one wanted to CO either side so the CM team set us up with AI's as commanders. It's freaking nuts man, those Cylons are everywhere. :noid
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Are CO's being subject to confidentiality at the moment or did you guys just forget to tell us?
I THINK subway is asking who are the CO's
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I've got it at my place
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The CO's haven't been picked yet, so there's nothing secret going on. The phase of gathering volunteers is still where we're at.
As for the registration, folks will register for the squadron/group they want to fly for, and that's what they'll fly. CO's won't be moving people around. It is more realistic (as commanders in WWII didn't get to pick their guys and swap them all over the place -- they got the pilots the military system sent them), but the reason is as follows.
We tried fine-grained registration for one past scenario (Tunisia, I think), but with allowing the CO to move people around. That wasn't the way to go as there ended up being no point being so fine grained when the whole mix would be redone anyway. So, we went to registering for broad classes (fighters, bombers, for example), which tend to stay intact.
Now, it's time to try it this way and see what people think -- if they like it better or not as much.
One of the thing we are trying are ways to reduce the work that a CO has to do and so to broaden the potential supply of CO's. We try new things from time to time in scenarios to see if there are better ways of doing things.
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Edit: nvm silly self answering question.
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My predicament is the CiC's will definitely have some influence on which side I fly.
perdweeb
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Understandable, but the COs interaction with the operations will be greatly reduced. GLs should be doing more of the workload, actually managing their own units. The order/tasks of each unit are posted with the writeup. Personally it always comes down to where my friends are going to fly.
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the american pirates will not see it coming.
we r ninjas, and we are fierce! purrr!
(http://peatrc.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/pirates-vs-ninjas.jpg)
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Understandable, but the COs interaction with the operations will be greatly reduced. GLs should be doing more of the workload, actually managing their own units. The order/tasks of each unit are posted with the writeup. Personally it always comes down to where my friends are going to fly.
I just realized that the entire Scenario was scripted.
I know I have complained about "scripted" Scenarios in the past but this one LITERALLY is scripted.
Every frame it has been decided who will attack where, with what and when.
They even have every groups orders posted.
Hey Fencer, which side did you decide would win?
Please rename this event a "Reenactment" as opposed to a Scenario because this is about as far from what the community has known as a "Scenario" for the past 15-20yrs as it could possibly be.
My predicament is the CiC's will definitely have some influence on which side I fly.
perdweeb
It doesn't matter perdweeb. They have already decided what is going to happen. No point really in actually FLYING the thing.
The CO's in this event don't 'do' anything. No planning (done already) needed so who really cares what figurehead is inserted as the CO's? The outcome of the event has been decided in advance.
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I just want to have a good time fly'n my B25's and blowing some stuff up. I want to put past events behind me and look forward to a fun scenario regardless of who wins. These events are about the only reason I continue to play as I rarely hit the MA's anymore.
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I just realized that the entire Scenario was scripted.
I know I have complained about "scripted" Scenarios in the past but this one LITERALLY is scripted.
:cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry
Hey Fencer, which side did you decide would win?
:cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry
No planning (done already) needed so who really cares what figurehead is inserted as the CO's? The outcome of the event has been decided in advance.
:cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry
really man? just fly it to have fun. if you lose, have fun in the process
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Hey Fencer, which side did you decide would win?
The one that had the most fun, naturally.
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The CO's haven't been picked yet, so there's nothing secret going on. The phase of gathering volunteers is still where we're at.
As for the registration, folks will register for the squadron/group they want to fly for, and that's what they'll fly. CO's won't be moving people around. It is more realistic (as commanders in WWII didn't get to pick their guys and swap them all over the place -- they got the pilots the military system sent them), but the reason is as follows.
We tried fine-grained registration for one past scenario (Tunisia, I think), but with allowing the CO to move people around. That wasn't the way to go as there ended up being no point being so fine grained when the whole mix would be redone anyway. So, we went to registering for broad classes (fighters, bombers, for example), which tend to stay intact.
Now, it's time to try it this way and see what people think -- if they like it better or not as much.
One of the thing we are trying are ways to reduce the work that a CO has to do and so to broaden the potential supply of CO's. We try new things from time to time in scenarios to see if there are better ways of doing things.
I have a horrible habit of looking out for possible unintended consequence and generally believe that it is human nature to exploit an environment...virtual or otherwise...its in their DNA...
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The first thing that came to mind is an abuse of the walk on system. As it stands now, and has stood in the past, there is no mechanism to prevent walk-on players from logging into the arena, switching to the country they see fit, slapping on some colors and blending seamlessly into the background.
For instance, player X tells players Y and Z a day or two prior to an event, to just show up on event day, switch to country A, and come to field ##.
Though laudable, setting up a tight system of registration, without a system of checks and balances, would seem to invite an abuse of the walk-on system.
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The second thing that caught my eye was the absence of consequence. Without consequence I see little hope in meaningfully changing much if anything. If the law of the land is to act in accordance with a directive, then violating the law should/must have consequence such as being banned from the rest of the scenario.
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Lastly I think that some additional thought and coverage in the new rules should address the special purpose roles not clearly defined or demarcated through squadrons or groups. Some that come to mind are the driving of ships and manning of ship guns. As was the case in Coral Sea, it turned out to be advantageous to script orders and groups specifically dedicated to this task. I think it would be wise to address this in your formulation of the rules.
As a for instance, we created a special unit of 6 people to handle cruiser guns and ship driving. They were carved out of several different units and they formed a squad that in essence attached them to one of the larger SBD units and gave them -G designator to differentiate them from the normal SBD guys. Once their gunning duties had expired, they rejoined their compatriots for the back half of the frame flying their assigned aircraft.
This is the sort of creativity and dynamic use of manpower that I hope is not quashed by a strictly written and interpreted rule.
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Oneway
Edit: And a final thought...or two...
Reducing the workload of the CO to attract more CO candidates will produce a different kind of CO than a system that demands a high level of commitment.
The ability to move people around has no appreciable impact on CO workload.
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The one that had the most fun, naturally.
All attempted "clever" remarks aside, I do want you to answer why this was done.
What was the thought process behind it.
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All attempted "clever" remarks aside, I do want you to answer why this was done.
What was the thought process behind it.
With great power comes great responcibility. Abuse it and we take away your cookies.
The point of a scenario is so that we get a lot of players together to have fun in a non-MA-like historical episode. A CO's job was to do this while making tactical decisions to bring about victory for their team. Unfortunatley in the the last few scenarios, certain COs back-burnered the "lets all get together and have some fun" to put gaming the game, victory at the cost of half the participant's enjoyment, and to a point their personal reputations and egos ahead of everyone having a fun time. It's stale bread for all this time, which is better than half the participants having fun and the other half demanding something be done or else more fun can be found for two-three hours in the MA.
And yes, I call it "stale bread", but it really won't be stale, predicatable yes, but I have absolutely no doubt now that everyone will have some fun in this scenario, not just some of them.
Hi, my name is Bab, and I'm a participant in this next scenario and I'm going to have fun.
And I'd gladly volunteer to CO if my schedule permited this scenario, so what if I can't do the battle "my way", as long as we all have fun it's the "only way" as far as I'm concerned.
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With great power comes great responcibility. Abuse it and we take away your cookies.
The point of a scenario is so that we get a lot of players together to have fun in a non-MA-like historical episode. A CO's job was to do this while making tactical decisions to bring about victory for their team. Unfortunatley in the the last few scenarios, certain COs back-burnered the "lets all get together and have some fun" to put gaming the game, victory at the cost of half the participant's enjoyment, and to a point their personal reputations and egos ahead of everyone having a fun time. It's stale bread for all this time, which is better than half the participants having fun and the other half demanding something be done or else more fun can be found for two-three hours in the MA.
And yes, I call it "stale bread", but it really won't be stale, predicatable yes, but I have absolutely no doubt now that everyone will have some fun in this scenario, not just some of them.
Hi, my name is Bab, and I'm a participant in this next scenario and I'm going to have fun.
And I'd gladly volunteer to CO if my schedule permited this scenario, so what if I can't do the battle "my way", as long as we all have fun it's the "only way" as far as I'm concerned.
There is an assumed and incumbent responsibility for all sub-command officers within a command structure that stretches and reaches far beyond their immediate responsibility to a side...
And that is to the game itself...
Preservation of the game is every players primary responsibility...
Beyond that...we can argue...without that we are doomed to fail...
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Oneway
Edit: spelling within
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We try new things from time to time in scenarios. We are trying mission orders in this one, and we'll see what people think. For anything we try, there are people who hate it, whatever it is that we try. The question is whether or not a large majority of players like it.
If people in general dislike it, we will take the feedback into account and do things differently next time.
The issues we are trying to improve are as follows. We want to broaden out the potential supply of CO's, so we want to give them a starting point rather than requiring them to craft missions from scratch. We want to decrease how much players' enjoyment of a scenario hinges on strategies made from scratch by two CO's. We want to decrease the probability that players fly around for hours with no action or get only missions that are totally historically unrealistic. (Note, flying around without action is not the fault of CO's -- when there is no structure, a CO has no way of knowing if a particular asset will or won't be attacked.)
Basically, we want to give the general players a higher probability that they will be flying missions that have the feel of the history of the battle and that they see action. From these players' point of view, it doesn't matter whether or not a scenario is a simulation for the CO of him being the whole HQ or is getting orders from HQ.
These aren't re-enactments stipulating who wins and every aspect that goes on. A side will still have plenty to decide and plenty hinging on their execution and tactics. Consider Rangoon and Der Grosse Schlag. People enjoyed those scenarios, didn't at all complain about there being too much specification, and those are more determined than Philippine Phandango. In Rangoon, for example, the target is specified, and the mission is exactly known every frame. The challenge is in the execution, details of how the bombers go to Rangoon, details on how escort, screens, sweeps, scouts, etc. are done. Some people might not like Rangoon, but a lot of people do like it. There is no absolute right or wrong, but a matter of preference.
If we picked to run a scenario that is absolutely perfect from any particular point of view, there would also be a group of people who hate it and get all worked up about it. That can't be avoided, but what we can do is to try different things and see how it goes, to see if aspects that the great majority of players don't like can be reduced.
(By the way, for those of you who want totally open fights, with no restrictions at all, no mission requirements, no player-enforced rules, nothing but a simple scoring system and historically themed assets to deploy, anything goes, please try out "This Day in WWII". Be a CO for that -- you can deploy whatever strategy and tactics you want.)
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As a player, I don't care what side wins. To top it off, nothing is more irritating than a CO that would rather 'game the game' and rack up as much point as he can at the expense of fun.
Not to embarrass Fencer, but in the middle of DGS I remember Fencer saying, "I know this plan will fail, but I know my bomber guys in group X (I forget the squad designation) need to have a good time. It will cost us the scenario, but that doesn't matter to me."
Sometimes failing is even a great thing... in that same scenario, the 474th's P38s escorted a buff group to the primary, the secondary and then the tertiary target; all of them had 10/10 cloud cover. I personally landed with 6 gallons of gas and went dry on taxiing to the hanger. After all that, there was complaining about us moving slightly out of the normal operating area because of the wind at that altitude pushed the bombers off course.
This new set up with pre-arranged orders is a new thing, I'm curious how it will work out.
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As a player, I don't care what side wins. To top it off, nothing is more irritating than a CO that would rather 'game the game' and rack up as much point as he can at the expense of fun.
Not to embarrass Fencer, but in the middle of DGS I remember Fencer saying, "I know this plan will fail, but I know my bomber guys in group X (I forget the squad designation) need to have a good time. It will cost us the scenario, but that doesn't matter to me."
It reminds me of when the Axis Ju88s carpet bombed one of the Allied bases in frame 4 of TFB. It had no effect on helping us win the event but it was alot of fun for us buff pilots who got to do something different. Who knows maybe General Fudgey will allow me to carpet bomb a Japanese airfield for the hell of it. Eighteen B25's dropping 54 x 100lbs bombs across a runway can be fun to watch. :D
I like it when players and commanders come together and launch an attack that could cost them the event but do it so that everyone has fun and creates some good memories / friendships. I think some people forget that your enemy this scenario could be your wingman in the next one and no win is worth the loss of good friends.
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I like it when players and commanders come together and launch an attack that could cost them the event but do it so that everyone has fun and creates some good memories / friendships. I think some people forget that your enemy this scenario could be your wingman in the next one and no win is worth the loss of good friends.
TFB basically brought me to my squad, Kommando Nowotny.
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I like the idea of the prescripted Scenario-at least to try it. Given that it will be based more on a pilot's skills in his plane of choice, which most would pick their strong suit-IMHO. My particular skill, being non-existant, :) leaves me in a fine pickle. What plane do I sacrifice myself in this time! :x
It all comes down to- {....if the plane set is mostly accurate and the missions are properly executed} -pilot skill, teamwork (the main goal of a Scenario), communications, execution of orders, and a bit of luck. I will have to look at it more closely now to see which side I wish to hang my sabre.
To me, Scenarios are like sex. The worst I have ever had was "terrific" :rofl (I cleaned that up a bit...)
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i would like to propose a training exercise for american pilots.
can you spot your enemy?
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