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Title: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: bravoa8 on May 03, 2010, 12:22:42 PM
I must say HTC the new M4s look brilliant! :aok But, we're still missing something...

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Stuart_m5a1_cfb_borden_4.JPG)

I want my M5A1. :D

Info about it:  http://www.wwiivehicles.com/usa/tanks-light/m5a1.asp (http://www.wwiivehicles.com/usa/tanks-light/m5a1.asp)
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: Vadjan-Sama on May 03, 2010, 01:30:50 PM
Sounds good, but I don't think so, with those we have 4 US tanks (1 with british gun), so we need more german, british tanks even an URSS tank hunter.

I like it but we need other tanks before this one.
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: 321BAR on May 03, 2010, 02:46:47 PM
Sounds good, but I don't think so, with those we have 4 US tanks (1 with british gun), so we need more german, british tanks even an URSS tank hunter.

I like it but we need other tanks before this one.
agreed, but would be a nice addition. (firefly is considered a british tank all around). and with that we only have the new M4A3s as american. M8 is a scout armored car
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: bravoa8 on May 03, 2010, 02:56:13 PM
agreed, but would be a nice addition. (firefly is considered a british tank all around). and with that we only have the new M4A3s as american. M8 is a scout armored car
Yea I was thinking the Firefly was british I guess they both used it though...
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: waystin2 on May 03, 2010, 03:04:19 PM
And if you want to be really specific the Firefly was considered a Tank Destroyer...

Oh, and a +1 to the wish.
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: Rino on May 03, 2010, 03:06:28 PM
And if you want to be really specific the Firefly was considered a Tank Destroyer...

Oh, and a +1 to the wish.

     By whom?  The Brits had Achilles and Archers as tank destroyers.  As far as I know they never deployed
Firefly Shermans to TD units.
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: waystin2 on May 03, 2010, 03:17:33 PM
    By whom?  The Brits had Achilles and Archers as tank destroyers.  As far as I know they never deployed
Firefly Shermans to TD units.

I am talking about the British.  As I understood the Firefly's usage (please correct me if I am wrong), the Firefly was deployed with upwards of 3 regular Shermans (75mm), and designated as the tank destroyer in the 4 vehicle group.  The other M-4's simply were not heavily gunned enough to deal with some of the armor the Germans could bring to bear.  In fact the Germans specifically sought the Firefly out of the pack first to get it out of the way because of it's lethality in this role.  Based on my further reading there is truth in what both of us have stated.

More info:

As a result, British tank troops were composed of three regular Shermans and one Firefly. The same distribution occurred in Cromwell units, but this caused logistical problems, as each Cromwell troop now needed to be supplied with parts for two different tanks, and the Fireflies were slowly replaced by Challenger tanks as they came out. Churchill units received no Fireflies, and as a result often had to rely on any attached M10 or M10 Achilles units to provide increased firepower to deal with tanks their 75mm guns could not eliminate.
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: Tupac on May 03, 2010, 10:51:52 PM
Just what we need, a hanger queen that would find limited use in scenarios and NO use in the MA. -1
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: Scherf on May 04, 2010, 01:40:03 AM
I'd love it, provided I can say "Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" on range channel as I race it down hillsides.
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: thndregg on May 04, 2010, 07:40:38 AM
Just what we need, a hanger queen that would find limited use in scenarios and NO use in the MA. -1

Must everything have to be uber to be used in the MA? Well, I guess there goes the jeep & the M8.
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: gyrene81 on May 04, 2010, 09:18:07 AM
Just what we need, a hanger queen that would find limited use in scenarios and NO use in the MA. -1
Yeah...and you know this how?
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: Tupac on May 04, 2010, 11:31:16 AM
Yeah...and you know this how?

well a 37mm gun wont match up against anything except maybe an M8 in the MA, and most scenarios after 1943 wont feature it. the stewart got most of its use in the africa campaign and some limited use in italy.
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: thndregg on May 04, 2010, 01:17:31 PM
well a 37mm gun wont match up against anything except maybe an M8 in the MA

Fly a Yak9T and you'll knock out a Panzer's engine with it's 37mm. Done it.
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: gyrene81 on May 04, 2010, 01:31:49 PM
well a 37mm gun wont match up against anything except maybe an M8 in the MA, and most scenarios after 1943 wont feature it. the stewart got most of its use in the africa campaign and some limited use in italy.
I'm guessing you have never taken out an M3, Flak, LVT, or Panzer with an M8...the Stuart may not be as fast but, it's fast firing and maneuverable enough to do some damage as long as you keep moving.
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: Tupac on May 04, 2010, 02:14:46 PM
I'm guessing you have never taken out an M3, Flak, LVT, or Panzer with an M8...the Stuart may not be as fast but, it's fast firing and maneuverable enough to do some damage as long as you keep moving.

so the if it had the same following as the M8, except it was slower, and bigger target.

I stand by my previous statement, just what we need is another hanger queen.
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: saantana on May 05, 2010, 12:02:08 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: bravoa8 on May 05, 2010, 12:06:06 PM
well a 37mm gun wont match up against anything except maybe an M8 in the MA, and most scenarios after 1943 wont feature it. the stewart got most of its use in the africa campaign and some limited use in italy.
Yes, It was used a lot in the africa campaign. I drive the M8 every day that 37mm can take out about any tank in the game except a Tiger and a T34/76.
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: gyrene81 on May 05, 2010, 12:09:05 PM
so the if it had the same following as the M8, except it was slower, and bigger target.

I stand by my previous statement, just what we need is another hanger queen.
I typically use an M8 as running bait so friendly tanks can kill enemy tanks...with the reload time on the 37mm being so fast and being in high gear doing a running assault, I can get 5 to 8 shots into a tank and at least kill the engine or track it before I get killed...that is if one of the friendlies doesn't knock it out while I have it distracted. The big downside to the M8 is the tires can be knocked out easily...an M5A1 would be less susceptible to track damage from machine guns...

I could see some Leroy Jenkins type of uses for it...no more of a hangar queen than the M8 is.
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: 321BAR on May 05, 2010, 07:38:47 PM
I typically use an M8 as running bait so friendly tanks can kill enemy tanks...with the reload time on the 37mm being so fast and being in high gear doing a running assault, I can get 5 to 8 shots into a tank and at least kill the engine or track it before I get killed...that is if one of the friendlies doesn't knock it out while I have it distracted. The big downside to the M8 is the tires can be knocked out easily...an M5A1 would be less susceptible to track damage from machine guns...

I could see some Leroy Jenkins type of uses for it...no more of a hangar queen than the M8 is.
i can run kill streaks in M8s ranging from 6-10 kills. Its all about the maneuvers, tactics, and terrain maneuverability. The necessity of shooting out the enemy turrets is top on priority, followed by one shot to the drivers area. 3 shots and it will destroy any tank other than the Tiger. Flanking maneuvers is also almost a near necessity... learn to use these tactics and remember/utilize the terrain to your advantage and you can do the same thing.
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: DeeACE on May 05, 2010, 11:04:50 PM
Sounds good, but I don't think so, with those we have 4 US tanks (1 with british gun), so we need more german, british tanks even an URSS tank hunter.

I like it but we need other tanks before this one.
How about the elephant

(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad157/wdebirch/aces%20high%20stuff/Elephant-2.jpg)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elefant

<S> DEEMAN
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: Tupac on May 06, 2010, 12:36:34 AM
See Rule #5
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: bravoa8 on May 06, 2010, 12:04:23 PM
How about the elephant

(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad157/wdebirch/aces%20high%20stuff/Elephant-2.jpg)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elefant

<S> DEEMAN
The more the merrier! :D
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: gyrene81 on May 06, 2010, 12:59:33 PM
How about the elephant

(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad157/wdebirch/aces%20high%20stuff/Elephant-2.jpg)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elefant

<S> DEEMAN
I would agree except that it's not a tank...it's self propelled artillery...doesn't aim or shoot the same as a tank.
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: hammer on May 06, 2010, 02:02:57 PM
I would agree except that it's not a tank...it's self propelled artillery...doesn't aim or shoot the same as a tank.

It may look like the M109, but it's a tank destroyer.

Regards,

Hammer
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: Vadjan-Sama on May 06, 2010, 02:05:21 PM
I would agree except that it's not a tank...it's self propelled artillery...doesn't aim or shoot the same as a tank.

A self-propelled anti-tank gun, or heay tank destroyer yep is it but just think what u can do with that gun, sure doesn't aim or shoot the same as a tank but u can use it to the defence of fields, or something more nice:

SU-85

(http://www.wargaming.net/tanks/IMAGES/SU-85.jpg)

Type:               Tank destroyer
Place of origin:   Soviet Union
Weight:             29.6 tonnes (65,256 lbs)
Length:             8.15 m (27 ft) overall
                       6.10 m (20 ft) hull only
Width:              3.00 m (9.84 ft)
Height:             2.45 m (8 ft)
Crew:               4 (commander, driver, gunner, loader)
Armor:              45 mm(1.77 in)
Armament:        85 mm (3.34 in) D-5T gun
Engine:             V-2 12-cylinder diesel
                       503 hp (375 kW)
Power/weight:   17 hp/tonne (12.7 kW/tonne)
range:              400 km (248 mi) (road)
Speed:             55 km/h (34 mph) (road)


I really love this one, I hope we can have it some day.  :pray
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: SmokinLoon on May 06, 2010, 04:44:05 PM
so the if it had the same following as the M8, except it was slower, and bigger target.

I stand by my previous statement, just what we need is another hanger queen.

A "hanger queen" neither will be.  The 75mm HE will do more dmg than all but the Tiger, and with a reload time like the Pzr IV I see it being used quite a bit to level towns, etc.  Where we will see it used quite a bit is the scenario events.   :aok

oh... and with a name like "tupac" how do you expect anyone to take you seriously???   ;)   :lol 
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: ariansworld on May 06, 2010, 09:14:21 PM
Yes, It was used a lot in the africa campaign. I drive the M8 every day that 37mm can take out about any tank in the game except a Tiger and a T34/76.
You can kill a tiger with the m8. You should aim where the turret connects to the hull, to the slight left of the mantlet.
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: Tupac on May 06, 2010, 09:58:59 PM
A "hanger queen" neither will be.  The 75mm HE will do more dmg than all but the Tiger, and with a reload time like the Pzr IV I see it being used quite a bit to level towns, etc.  Where we will see it used quite a bit is the scenario events.   :aok

oh... and with a name like "tupac" how do you expect anyone to take you seriously???   ;)   :lol 

i was reffering to the stuart, +1 to the elephant
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: TOMCAT21 on May 07, 2010, 12:19:48 AM
light tank would be nice, what about the Lee and Grant tanks for the early war arenas since they were early ww2 tanks ?
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: phatzo on May 07, 2010, 12:36:04 AM
light tank would be nice, what about the Lee and Grant tanks for the early war arenas since they were early ww2 tanks ?
I was actually wondering where they were. I think they're parked next to the HE-111.
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: Kuhn on May 07, 2010, 01:25:17 PM
    
 Ah yes, the M5A1 Stuart. Cadillac of the tanks. Wonder why the one in the pic has an electrical box on it.
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: bravoa8 on May 07, 2010, 05:05:18 PM
   
 Ah yes, the M5A1 Stuart. Cadillac of the tanks. Wonder why the one in the pic has an electrical box on it.
Where? :confused:
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: Kuhn on May 08, 2010, 11:49:22 PM
It's almost in the center of the picture. On one of the idler wheel supports.
Title: Re: M5A1 Stuart
Post by: phatzo on May 09, 2010, 03:05:28 AM
There was an old steam train in a park that had a similar box that ran a recording of the train operating when you pressed a button.