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Title: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: ScottyK on May 09, 2010, 03:00:49 AM
  Would people change they way they fly if the score system was taken out? 

  In my own opinion "score" is only good for CV control, which gets abused here and there.  I'm no means a good stick and never plan on being #1 or so why go for it? HT doesnt give a monthly prize or anything. 

  I say do a trial month with NO RANK/SCORE and see what happens, maybe some better fights, maybe not.  <S>

  let the bashing begin.
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: BrownBaron on May 09, 2010, 03:05:19 AM
Should go in the wishlist.

Interesting prospect. Would definitely see more liberal use of cartoon pilots and their machines.
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: cobia38 on May 09, 2010, 07:22:53 AM

 this would cause mass confusion,the ankle humpers wouldent know whos ankle is ripe  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: oTRALFZo on May 09, 2010, 08:53:27 AM
I was recently falling victim to a well known score troll when he was trying to rack up kills vulching a feild. I upped from the nearest base and chassed him down only to be cursed out in a PM :x. Point here is..you want to play your game? then let me play mine.

If you want to play for score/rank, its your $$$. Anyone here knows the score system is FUBAR and it really doesnt reflect ones skill. It doesnt mean that they are skill less, it just shows that they play a much more conservative game than others. Keeping the score system really doesnt bother me, I have been playing a while now and know what to expect when you meet up with these people. Ive had more fun fighting a guy ranked 500 than I have meeting up with someone in the top 10 and thats what really matters here :aok
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: thndregg on May 09, 2010, 09:12:29 AM
  Would people change they way they fly if the score system was taken out? 

No. I play how I play when I have time to play. Score simply does not matter to my idea of fun. More important to me is good times, comradery & sportsmanship. That's why I'm here.
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: ACE on May 09, 2010, 09:17:21 AM
I agree with the no score thing. However, it will never happen.
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: gyrene81 on May 09, 2010, 10:16:07 AM
Get rid of the score and a large number of people would stop playing...believe it, or not.

It would not stop the ridiculous b.s. on 200 or any of the behavior you are wanting stopped...do yourself a favor, change your outlook. When it's all said and done at the end of the night when you log off, does it really matter who vulched, HO'd, picked, rammed or farted while you ate your cheerios or how many times they did it? I'm no ace pile-it by any stretch of the imagination but I can tell when a HO is likely to occur and can avoid it if I want...I know when I'm most likely to get vulched and can avoid it if I want...I know when the possibility of getting picked is high and can avoid 90% of the attempts...and most collisions can be avoided.

It all boils down to how you look at things...if everything occurred exactly the way you wanted it to, it would get boring very fast.
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: AWwrgwy on May 09, 2010, 10:20:40 AM
Just change the criteria....

Quote
Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today?
Ty Webb: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score.
Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers?
Ty Webb: By height.



wrongway
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: Changeup on May 09, 2010, 12:00:10 PM
Its needed for those who absolutely need a johnson-measurement tool in their life.   :neener:

Changeup
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: grizz441 on May 09, 2010, 12:14:49 PM
I like combat statistics, does that qualify as score?
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: THRASH99 on May 09, 2010, 12:24:56 PM
  Would people change they way they fly if the score system was taken out? 

  In my own opinion "score" is only good for CV control, which gets abused here and there.  I'm no means a good stick and never plan on being #1 or so why go for it? HT doesnt give a monthly prize or anything. 

  I say do a trial month with NO RANK/SCORE and see what happens, maybe some better fights, maybe not.  <S>

  let the bashing begin.
Score really means nothing, the only thing that means something is if you can fly and fight. :airplane: The people who count rank/score are really pathetic, all that tells me is that they can't survive a 1v1 or fight in one. There will never ever be a fair 1v1 fight without one of there buddies running in to help them, nothing but gang banging. I really don't agree or think that the no score/rank thing will even work, especially in the MA.
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: gyrene81 on May 09, 2010, 01:06:56 PM
Score really means nothing, the only thing that means something is if you can fly and fight. :airplane: The people who count rank/score are really pathetic, all that tells me is that they can't survive a 1v1 or fight in one. There will never ever be a fair 1v1 fight without one of there buddies running in to help them, nothing but gang banging. I really don't agree or think that the no score/rank thing will even work, especially in the MA.
I have to brow beat you on this one...no offense but...do you think score is a factor if my squadmates and I attack someone together?...wrong. We don't care about score...we do what we need to do to shoot an opponent down. The only way a "fair fight" would occur is if everyone fly the same airplane...we all have the same amount of experience...we all have the same computers and the same stick setups...and we all have the same connection speeds.

Leave fair out of the equation unless you're willing to give up the little advantages that you give yourself.
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: Changeup on May 09, 2010, 04:21:10 PM
There are rarely 1 v 1's in the MA anyway so it is a non-issue.  This thread is about score vs no score and how people will interact in the game if there was no scoring system.  I submit to you fellow cartoon pilots that we would have massive, interesting furballs going on all over the map if there was no scoring system.  

People can play anyway they want to but the scorekeepers have a strong tendency to keep their atmospheric advantages and they fly, in most cases, like they actually have something to lose (their score perhaps?).  That doesn't apply to all great scoring pilots...I watched him kill 3 squaddies and then was ultimately killed by Kappa (yes, in the same sortie, lol).....we were all on the deck and I was in a typically better turning aircraft and the only "gang" around was Kappa himself...OMG (one man gang).  Ive seen others do the same, Grizz, Bruv, Batfink, etc etc etc...but those guys??? They NEVER talk about their scores that I have ever heard or read.  Seeing the picture here?

Perhaps they don't need a johnson-measuring device....lol...keep the scores, just don't post them.  Post the SQUAD rankings....hell, I have no idea.

Changeup
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: guncrasher on May 10, 2010, 01:03:46 AM
dont get rid of the score, but allow us to have the option to opt out of the scoring system.  if it makes it simpler allow ah to keep score, but not to display it for anybody that chooses not to.  just have a box next to your name to select to show score.



semp

sorry change up but grizz not talking about his score, kinda like saying he doesnt fly a 262, lol
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: grizz441 on May 10, 2010, 01:24:46 AM
sorry change up but grizz not talking about his score, kinda like saying he doesnt fly a 262, lol

 :huh
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: cattb on May 10, 2010, 02:18:05 AM
Leave the hit percentage in.  :joystick:
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: Boxboy on May 10, 2010, 02:19:24 AM
Its needed for those who absolutely need a johnson-measurement tool in their life.   :neener:

Changeup
:aok
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: guncrasher on May 10, 2010, 02:38:46 AM
:huh

sorry man i counted how many times u mention about u being good, great, or ubber 7 times today, I can post the paper i wrote them on if you want proof.  but thread is not really about u  :D.  its about not showing score

semp
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: grizz441 on May 10, 2010, 12:38:24 PM
sorry man i counted how many times u mention about u being good, great, or ubber 7 times today, I can post the paper i wrote them on if you want proof.  but thread is not really about u  :D.  its about not showing score

You miscounted then, the real number was 9.   :neener:
200 banter has nothing to do with score, now does it semp.  The old saying goes, "if you take Muppet banter seriously, you need psychological help."
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: humble on May 10, 2010, 01:14:25 PM
Keeping "score" is what the game is all about, after all isn't that where the term "ace" comes from?

How we compute the artificial score in the game is a bigger question. However regardless of the actual equation some folks will focus on that aspect and some won't. From my admittedly imperfect understanding the biggest problem is how use of a particular plane effects ranking (or doesn't). Players can elect to "score" sorties as fighter or attack and thus "massage" the output of the equation. So we see the use of 262's tempests and other planes (as one way of working score). So if we have an ENY of "5" for top planes what is the value of a tempest or 262 as it relates to score. If a temp has a default perk value of 60 vs an unperked 5 ride then the relative value of the temp is .0834%. So a k/d ratio of 20/1 in a temp would be equivalent to roughly 1.7/1 in a pony. Leaving the benchmark at an ENY of "5" then kills in a lower ENY plane would get marked up as well so a 1/1 KD in an ENY 30 ride would be equal to a K/D ratio of 6/1 for rank related scoring.

Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: uptown on May 10, 2010, 01:26:08 PM
Give me stats and I'm good.  

Well good is a poor word choice. I'm cool just looking at stats, lets put it that way  :joystick:
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: hitech on May 10, 2010, 03:05:30 PM
If you want to play for score/rank, its your $$$. Anyone here knows the score system is FUBAR and it really doesnt reflect ones skill.

This is incorrect, it takes a lot of skill to rank in the top 10, but it does not necessarily take the same skill that you interested in.

Hiech
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: Kazaa on May 10, 2010, 03:22:05 PM
This is incorrect, it takes a lot of skill to rank in the top 10, but it does not necessarily take the same skill that you interested in.

Hiech

Because milk running undefended bases in blue takes skill.
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: grizz441 on May 10, 2010, 03:39:33 PM
Because milk running undefended bases in blue takes skill.

Don't forget launching rockets at buildings from pt boats.
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: Lusche on May 10, 2010, 03:43:27 PM
Don't forget launching rockets at buildings from pt boats.

Far too dangerous. I prefer the SdKfz  :D
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: Kazaa on May 10, 2010, 03:44:10 PM
Don't forget launching rockets at buildings from pt boats.

Don't forget vultching an airfeild in figher mode.
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: Zoney on May 10, 2010, 03:46:29 PM
Nevermind, why bother with a response.
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: uptown on May 10, 2010, 03:54:17 PM
Don't forget launching rockets at buildings from pt boats.
I've tried that a lot this tour and I can tell you it isn't as easy as it sounds. Every single time I got to the town some clown would be there waiting for me, or up as soon I got 1 rocket off  :mad: Same goes for the times I tried to hit the town with   a 251. It's getting to the point where a guy can't get a break during prime time  :lol And I ain't about to stay up til 3 or 4 in the morning to get it done.
I got to say though, it has been a lot of fun learning some new toys. I'm working on a plan to take V Base hangers down and get a capture with nothing but 251s. So far it's proving pretty difficult just to get my range down. Once I figure it out, i'll then have to show my squaddies how to do it. :(
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: Lusche on May 10, 2010, 03:57:51 PM
I've tried that a lot this tour and I can tell you it isn't as easy as it sounds. Every single time I got to the town some clown would be there waiting for me

There is your error. Why going to a town? Flashing towns and bases naturally alerts your enemies...

Apparently no milk is running through your veins  :P
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: uptown on May 10, 2010, 04:11:29 PM
  :D
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: FlakBait422 on May 10, 2010, 04:13:47 PM
I like the Idea, but I dont feel like people would go for it  :cry Love the thought though! Love to make it work!
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: Changeup on May 10, 2010, 04:57:34 PM
Dont forget sliding back your cockpit, sticking your hand out and screaming, "PULL MY FINGER!!!" while vulching...extra style points for your ranking.
 :rock
Changeup
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: uptown on May 10, 2010, 06:10:13 PM
 :lol Changeup
Title: Re: Getting rid of score and overall rankings per month
Post by: phatzo on May 11, 2010, 12:28:21 AM
"PULL MY FINGER!!!"  :rock
Changeup
my new battle cry.