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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: THRASH99 on May 12, 2010, 12:29:29 AM
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When missing landing gear, the way the plane lands at super low speeds is not realistic at all. For some reason you can be going 120, tap the plane really softly and you die instantly :huh :mad:. I've seen crashes without the landing gear in the war and now and it doesn't blow the plane up from a tiny tap on the ground. Plz fix it HTC
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Thrash.. they did this for a reason, as people were abusing it by coming in at 200+ and landing with their gear UP and skidding to an instant stop with a successful landing. In real life if a plane comes in with inoperable gear, they would fly as slow and touch down as gently as possible to try to minimize the damage (and risk of death/injury) as a result of the emergency landing, NOW touching down at full speed with the gear up so they can stop in time... THAT in my mind is the unrealistic part...
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When missing landing gear, the way the plane lands at super low speeds is not realistic at all. For some reason you can be going 120, tap the plane really softly and you die instantly :huh :mad:. I've seen crashes without the landing gear in the war and now and it doesn't blow the plane up from a tiny tap on the ground. Plz fix it HTC
What speed?
Angle of descent?
Did something get stuck in the tarmac and cartwheel you?
What were you flying?
How many landing gear were broken?
Which ones?
"Realistically", aircraft are meant to land on the wheels. Any other situation is rather atypical and the results are unpredictable, at best.
Film?
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When missing landing gear, the way the plane lands at super low speeds is not realistic at all. For some reason you can be going 120, tap the plane really softly and you die instantly
Since when is 120 "super low speed"??
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Get a car going 120mph and stick your head out the window... Does it feel slow to you? Don't think so.... Anything hitting the ground at that speed will get ripped to shreds...
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Get a car going 120mph and stick your head out the window... Does it feel slow to you? Don't think so.... Anything hitting the ground at that speed will get ripped to shreds...
Not if you do it on the grass...120mph on some airframes is "floating"...personally, if I have to belly land it, 100mph is tops...but I'm weird.
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Thrash.. they did this for a reason, as people were abusing it by coming in at 200+ and landing with their gear UP and skidding to an instant stop with a successful landing. In real life if a plane comes in with inoperable gear, they would fly as slow and touch down as gently as possible to try to minimize the damage (and risk of death/injury) as a result of the emergency landing, NOW touching down at full speed with the gear up so they can stop in time... THAT in my mind is the unrealistic part...
Where did you get 200 +?, gear doesn't even come out at that speed sometimes. Have you see plane crashes on runways before, yes people get hurt, but there is no reason why you should die from one tap. Let me ask this, did you hear about the emergeny plane landing in the Hudson River? The pilot tapped the plane on the water at 120+ and did you didn't see anything blown up, no, plane itself in the water and same goes for cement. Only damage should occur, not tiny tap = BOOM!
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What speed?
Angle of descent?
Did something get stuck in the tarmac and cartwheel you?
What were you flying?
How many landing gear were broken?
Which ones?
"Realistically", aircraft are meant to land on the wheels. Any other situation is rather atypical and the results are unpredictable, at best.
Film?
Obviously low speed, 110-120mph at least, straight to the runway, nothing in front of it, P-51D, both gears were shot off during my sortie fighting.
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Since when is 120 "super low speed"??
Fine, not super low speed, but a regular low speed
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Gear can come out at 150... rips at 200+
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Where did you get 200 +?, gear doesn't even come out at that speed sometimes. Have you see plane crashes on runways before, yes people get hurt, but there is no reason why you should die from one tap. Let me ask this, did you hear about the emergeny plane landing in the Hudson River? The pilot tapped the plane on the water at 120+ and did you didn't see anything blown up, no, plane itself in the water and same goes for cement. Only damage should occur, not tiny tap = BOOM!
Did you see the capital gear UP???
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Where did you get 200 +?, gear doesn't even come out at that speed sometimes. Have you see plane crashes on runways before, yes people get hurt, but there is no reason why you should die from one tap. Let me ask this, did you hear about the emergeny plane landing in the Hudson River? The pilot tapped the plane on the water at 120+ and did you didn't see anything blown up, no, plane itself in the water and same goes for cement. Only damage should occur, not tiny tap = BOOM!
A few years ago it wasn't uncommon for a plane to land at 200+ mph with the GEAR UP and then skid to a stop. Hi-Tech changed it on the next patch to crash if you're doing more than like 120 mph on a gear up landing to prevent this from happening.
Also 120 for a big airliner is a bit different than 120 for a small single seater...
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Fine, not super low speed, but a regular low speed
Wow Thrash.. I see you've been here about.. what 3 months now? I've been here over five years... many of us for more than 10. You'll find that the things in this game that may not seem realistic are like that for a reason. I'm just trying to tell you the reason.
Next time you post, please leave the attitude at the door.
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i dunno about most of you, but I touch down at stall speed.. in most fighters in a light post-combat situation, I think its around 80-90 -- but since im just listening for the buzzer and looking outside, i cant really tell you.. I can say that 120 is way too fast.
I was taught in the little amount of real world instruction that I have in prop planes, and reading, that the proper way to land is for the plane to stop flying (stalling) right as the wheels are touching down. You should be hearing the stall buzzer coming on strong on a proper touchdown. stall too early = hard landing ... "fly" it onto the runway = bounce.
obviously without gear, you want to be as slow as possible.. which reinforces my point...
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i dunno about most of you, but I touch down at stall speed.. in most fighters in a light post-combat situation, I think its around 80-90 -- but since im just listening for the buzzer and looking outside, i cant really tell you.. I can say that 120 is way too fast.
I was taught in the little amount of real world instruction that I have in prop planes, and reading, that the proper way to land is for the plane to stop flying (stalling) right as the wheels are touching down. You should be hearing the stall buzzer coming on strong on a proper touchdown.
obviously without gear, you want to be as slow as possible.. which reinforces my point...
This :old:
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A few years ago it wasn't uncommon for a plane to land at 200+ mph with the GEAR UP and then skid to a stop. Hi-Tech changed it on the next patch to crash if you're doing more than like 120 mph on a gear up landing to prevent this from happening.
Also 120 for a big airliner is a bit different than 120 for a small single seater...
Jet vs prop? I think jet is going a bit faster than a prop plane don't you think?
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Jet vs prop? I think jet is going a bit faster than a prop plane don't you think?
Oh, so you're flying a jet with shot up gear now? :confused:
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See Rule #4
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Student Pilot myself, and I know a squeeky stall landing is the one for me :old: I mean, speedy just makes no sense.. and Thrash.. dont get shot and you wont need to land even more wrong than you already are :rofl
:cheers: FlakBait
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Oh, so you're flying a jet with shot up gear now? :confused:
I'm saying which does more damage, a prop plane or a jet? Jet wins the vote by far
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Student Pilot myself, and I know a squeeky stall landing is the one for me :old: I mean, speedy just makes no sense.. and Thrash.. dont get shot and you wont need to land even more wrong than you already are :rofl
:cheers: FlakBait
Oh flak, still mad about that 1 shot with a 20mm I put in your P-38 cockpit that you complained to me about? :rofl :neener:
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I'm saying which does more damage, a prop plane or a jet? Jet wins the vote by far
Does more damage to what? itself? the pilot? the runway?
Who cares, in a damaged plane you want to basically aerodynamically stall about 2cm from the ground, piper cub or 747
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #4
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Does more damage to what? itself? the pilot? the runway?
Who cares, in a damaged plane you want to basically aerodynamically stall about 2cm from the ground, piper cub or 747
Belly landing on water and/or cement with both give you damage somewhere near a close airspeed. You hit the wing on the water, it rips off and drags you into the water, you hit the wing on cement, it rips off and drags you in with into the ground.
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Belly landing on water and/or cement with both give you damage somewhere near a close airspeed. You hit the wing on the water, it rips off and drags you into the water, you hit the wing on cement, it rips off and drags you in with into the ground.
Ok, now first look above at fugitives post.
Secondly, is there any possible way you could be further from th original post and still talking about aeroplanes? Put the longneck down and take Fugitive's adviced :salute
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Well obviously this game is NOT up to your high standards. My suggestion is you just hang on to your $15 a month and cancel your subscription. The game will never be "right" for you so just save yourself a bunch of aggravation and sign off now.
Good luck in what ever you do.
I'm asking for HTC to fix the simplest bugs/errors that are happening right now
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I'm asking for HTC to fix the simplest bugs/errors that are happening right now
What bugs and errors?
That you can't crash into the floor at 200 mph without being dead?
Can you hear the grinding noises of undercarriage at approaching 200 mph? they are about to tear of. Imagine what;s gonna happen if they touch something denser than air? Such as... er the floor
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What bugs and errors?
That you can't crash into the floor at 200 mph without being dead?
Can you hear the grinding noises of undercarriage at approaching 200 mph? they are about to tear of. Imagine what;s gonna happen if they touch something denser than air? Such as... er the floor
You wanna cookie? Sooooo.... how fast SHOULD a WWII plane be able to go and touch the ground without gear without blowing up?
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absolutely no more than six and a half miles per hour, and only if then land in the camp swimming pool or in the flower bed
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Slow down to 100 mph, as the stall buzzer goes off, use your flaps to bring the nose up. And just glide right in. :aok
IMO it's easier to land without gear.
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Oh flak, still mad about that 1 shot with a 20mm I put in your P-38 cockpit that you complained to me about? :rofl :neener:
Maybe I should be concerned with how you got that 20mm into my cockpit.. because that HO could do it :salute I agree... im out before I get myself into trouble on this dead end, nobb infested subject.
:cheers: FlakBait, out.
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absolutely no more than six and a half miles per hour, and only if then land in the camp swimming pool or in the flower bed
Furthermore, if you choose to land in the flower bed, see the adjutant regarding donations to the camp botany and horticulture fund. :aok
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What bugs and errors?
That you can't crash into the floor at 200 mph without being dead?
Can you hear the grinding noises of undercarriage at approaching 200 mph? they are about to tear of. Imagine what;s gonna happen if they touch something denser than air? Such as... er the floor
You have to realize the kind of player THRASH99 is, he's the type that wants the Spitfire perked because he can't fight against one, thinks the P-51H should be in the game because "it saw more combat in WW2 than the Spitfire 16 did". Even after many have explained to him why tanks can't mow down trees in the game and how it's not a bug but rather how certain objects are treated by the game engine, he still insists its a bug.
His problem is he's trying to argue points that are born out of ignorance.
ack-ack
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You have to realize the kind of player THRASH99 is, he's the type that wants the Spitfire perked because he can't fight against one, thinks the P-51H should be in the game because "it saw more combat in WW2 than the Spitfire 16 did". Even after many have explained to him why tanks can't mow down trees in the game and how it's not a bug but rather how certain objects are treated by the game engine, he still insists its a bug.
His problem is he's trying to argue points that are born out of ignorance.
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If we have a 51h, will it suddenly be able to out turn a spit with equal pilot?
only if i'm the spit jockey :banana:
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See Rule #6
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See Rule #6
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I know this guys really isn't worth your time Ack-Ack, but.......
"GET'UM"! :rofl
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Plus, Spit 16 is really not that hard to fight against, best way to fight them is to get them really low and slow, you do that and they pretty much will do the rest of the show for you. Spit 16 is pretty horrible in a stall at low alt, controls move rapidly, plane out of control, etc. The only reason that they never stall out is because most of the pilots who fly them always have an alt advantage, so they don't have to worry about stalling and/or crashing. The reason I complain about it is because you really don't need it, why would you need it? It is way too easy of a fighter to be in the game.
And what does this have to do with your original 'bug' about not being able to land without gear at 125mph?
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I know this guys really isn't worth your time Ack-Ack, but.......
"GET'UM"! :rofl
I already offered him a chance to go the DA with me in a previous thread and all he did was make excuses as to why he wouldn't meet me. Bronk said it best when he said to THRASH99, "kingcobradude has more backbone..."
As I said in my last post in this thread, THRASH99 is just the type of player that blames his lack of skill and understanding of how the game works on the game itself. MY TANK HIT A TREE...WHAAAAAAA!!! IT'S A BUG!!! I GOT SHOT DOWN BY A 2 WEEK SQUEAKER IN A SPIT 16...WHAAAA!!!! PERK THE SPIT 16!!!! It's never his fault, it's always the game that messed up.
If THRASH99 would spend even one minute in learning about the planes in this game and the mechanics of how this game works, it would eliminate the need for 99.999% of his posts.
ack-ack
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And what does this have to do with your original 'bug' about not being able to land without gear at 125mph?
You tell me, every time I post something, it always has to go off damn topic by someone else
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I already offered him a chance to go the DA with me in a previous thread and all he did was make excuses as to why he wouldn't meet me. Bronk said it best when he said to THRASH99, "kingcobradude has more backbone..."
As I said in my last post in this thread, THRASH99 is just the type of player that blames his lack of skill and understanding of how the game works on the game itself. MY TANK HIT A TREE...WHAAAAAAA!!! IT'S A BUG!!! I GOT SHOT DOWN BY A 2 WEEK SQUEAKER IN A SPIT 16...WHAAAA!!!! PERK THE SPIT 16!!!! It's never his fault, it's always the game that messed up.
If THRASH99 would spend even one minute in learning about the planes in this game and the mechanics of how this game works, it would eliminate the need for 99.999% of his posts.
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What excuses??!, that's just bull coming out of your mouth there, I said watch you not show since most people don't. I didn't see you post any offer/chance for DA on any post. Bronk said that to someone else when king was talking about his B-25H against you, maybe your the one that needs to learn to look
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<snip> If you think that your so good, then why don't I ever see you in the KOTH tournaments with the so called "skill" you have? <snip>
Let's leave KOTH out of this. I host one of them and to my knowledge there is no requirement for the better pilots in Aces High to have to show up and attend the event. Yes a few of our KOTHers are highly skilled in Aces High but other pilots do not like KOTH for various reasons. Some do not like the all fly the same plane requirement, others cant attend because of scheduling. I'm sure some do not attend, at least Fryday's event' because of the host.
I'd say your logic that AKAK should attend KOTH because he thinks he's so good is quite flawed. You ask many players about his skills and I'd bet a year of Aces High dues that most would rank him close to the top, with 1 qualification, and that being he is flying the P-38.
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Not if you do it on the grass...120mph on some airframes is "floating"....
you have a point here... doint pretty much anything on grass is pretty much "floating" to me.
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See Rule #6
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This has wandered off topic. To address the original posters issue.
I have no idea what would happen to a WW2 plane if it landed at 120+ MPH as I have never been in one nor flown one in real life.
The choice made in game is to help prevent gaming the game by requiring everyone to land at reasonably safe air speeds. By doing this it prevents people from plowing in without paying any attention at all to landing correctly. It adds to the challenge of landing a sortie and makes that "name in lights" mean just a little bit more.
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Landing?
LANDING....
There's no "LANDING" in AH....
Is there?
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Does anyone go to the TA and try to learn the very basics of this game anymore? Am I the only one that sought out a trainer, read the literature, practiced gunnery, and worked on taking off and landing?
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When missing landing gear, the way the plane lands at super low speeds is not realistic at all. For some reason you can be going 120, tap the plane really softly and you die instantly :huh :mad:. I've seen crashes without the landing gear in the war and now and it doesn't blow the plane up from a tiny tap on the ground. Plz fix it HTC
If you don't mind me asking, what realistic experience do you have sir. Also, what war were you in where you witnessed several crash landings? Or are you referring to a John Wayne movie you seen on TMC?
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If you don't mind me asking, what realistic experience do you have sir. Also, what war were you in where you witnessed several crash landings? Or are you referring to a John Wayne movie you seen on TMC?
WWII of course, crashes of pilots coming in to fast on a cv landing and/or runway without gear, all you see is broken propeller, maybe wing damage, not an explosion from hitting the ground hard. I have never seen a plane blow up from hitting the bottom of it on the ground before, don't even know if it's possible to do that. That's the realistic I'm talking about
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I have no trouble belly landing at will. Have you considered the fact that either your speed or rate of descent may be too high?
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WWII of course, crashes of pilots coming in to fast on a cv landing and/or runway without gear, all you see is broken propeller, maybe wing damage, not an explosion from hitting the ground hard.
And so it happens in Ah too. I am frequently doing "combat landings" on bases under attack to avoid vulchers. No problems at all. But of course you can't expect to love, if you are slamming your plane on the ground at 120 mph with a vertical speed component thats getting too high...
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WWII of course, crashes of pilots coming in to fast on a cv landing and/or runway without gear, all you see is broken propeller, maybe wing damage, not an explosion from hitting the ground hard. I have never seen a plane blow up from hitting the bottom of it on the ground before, don't even know if it's possible to do that. That's the realistic I'm talking about
How can you ask for realism when you don't know what is real or not? Your only basis to measure realism is what you perceive to be 'realistic' and not what truly was realistic.
For example, you decry planes catching on fire during a hard landing as unrealistic because in your own words you don't think it's possible for it to happen.
Here is a picture of a passenger jet airliner that caught fire after a hard landing.
(http://www.topnews.in/files/japan-cargo-plane101.jpg)
Here is a picture of a Hellcat on fire after a hard landing on a CV
(http://www.ww2incolor.com/d/1118-4/crash-landing-uss-enterprise.jpg)
B-29 after it exploded and burned during a crash landing after a mission
(http://www.raymartinsr.com/tinian/b29s/b29_crash2.jpg)
B-26 burns in a field after forced to ditch short of the airfield
(http://www.pimaair.org/images/collection/b26/Billings06.037-400.jpg)
ground crews spray foam on a B-24s engines that started to catch fire after the Liberator came in for a hard belly landing.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kIWY2DV0KnE/STIqOYsdbxI/AAAAAAAAB0k/MR1zuakAOgY/s400/B-24+after+crash-landing.jpg)
Another B-29 that exploded and burned while crash landing after an aborted mission
(http://39th.org/39th/images/crew/aerial/06/foster/42-94053-crash-257-2.jpg)
ack-ack
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How can you ask for realism when you don't know what is real or not? Your only basis to measure realism is what you perceive to be 'realistic' and not what truly was realistic.
For example, you decry planes catching on fire during a hard landing as unrealistic because in your own words you don't think it's possible for it to happen.
Here is a picture of a passenger jet airliner that caught fire after a hard landing.
(http://www.topnews.in/files/japan-cargo-plane101.jpg)
Here is a picture of a Hellcat on fire after a hard landing on a CV
(http://www.ww2incolor.com/d/1118-4/crash-landing-uss-enterprise.jpg)
B-29 after it exploded and burned during a crash landing after a mission
(http://www.raymartinsr.com/tinian/b29s/b29_crash2.jpg)
B-26 burns in a field after forced to ditch short of the airfield
(http://www.pimaair.org/images/collection/b26/Billings06.037-400.jpg)
ground crews spray foam on a B-24s engines that started to catch fire after the Liberator came in for a hard belly landing.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kIWY2DV0KnE/STIqOYsdbxI/AAAAAAAAB0k/MR1zuakAOgY/s400/B-24+after+crash-landing.jpg)
Another B-29 that exploded and burned while crash landing after an aborted mission
(http://39th.org/39th/images/crew/aerial/06/foster/42-94053-crash-257-2.jpg)
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What are you on about AKAK? Where are the pics of broken wheels, where are the pics of bent propellors with Ben Afleck leaning against the fuselage smoking a cuban?
You obviously got these off a sci-fi site :salute
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How can you ask for realism when you don't know what is real or not? Your only basis to measure realism is what you perceive to be 'realistic' and not what truly was realistic.
For example, you decry planes catching on fire during a hard landing as unrealistic because in your own words you don't think it's possible for it to happen.
Here is a picture of a passenger jet airliner that caught fire after a hard landing.
(http://www.topnews.in/files/japan-cargo-plane101.jpg)
Here is a picture of a Hellcat on fire after a hard landing on a CV
(http://www.ww2incolor.com/d/1118-4/crash-landing-uss-enterprise.jpg)
B-29 after it exploded and burned during a crash landing after a mission
(http://www.raymartinsr.com/tinian/b29s/b29_crash2.jpg)
B-26 burns in a field after forced to ditch short of the airfield
(http://www.pimaair.org/images/collection/b26/Billings06.037-400.jpg)
ground crews spray foam on a B-24s engines that started to catch fire after the Liberator came in for a hard belly landing.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kIWY2DV0KnE/STIqOYsdbxI/AAAAAAAAB0k/MR1zuakAOgY/s400/B-24+after+crash-landing.jpg)
Another B-29 that exploded and burned while crash landing after an aborted mission
(http://39th.org/39th/images/crew/aerial/06/foster/42-94053-crash-257-2.jpg)
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Wow, already knew that they can catch on fire, thx for telling me that, your only the 500th person to tell me over and over. If you didn't see, I said "BLOW UP" on impact on the runway, not catch on fire. Films of it work a bit better than pics.
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Wow, already knew that they can catch on fire, thx for telling me that, your only the 500th person to tell me over and over. If you didn't see, I said "BLOW UP" on impact on the runway, not catch on fire. Films of it work a bit better than pics.
In game, your plane simply "blows up" if your pilot is killed. And your pilot will be killed, if you slam your plane on the ground too hard. And again, level airspeed is only part of the equation.
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Landing?
LANDING....
There's no "LANDING" in AH....
Is there?
Not for me
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Way to "Help" and "Train" this recruit. I have this feeling that some of you have forgotten that this is NOT the general forums or O'club.
That is all I wanted to say, I'm sure the OP's question was answered somewhere in this mess of a thread.
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Way to "Help" and "Train" this recruit. I have this feeling that some of you have forgotten that this is NOT the general forums or O'club.
This thread has been moved here. All those replies you are probably referring to were made while it was not in the H&T forum.
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What are you on about AKAK? Where are the pics of broken wheels, where are the pics of bent propellors with Ben Afleck leaning against the fuselage smoking a cuban?
You obviously got these off a sci-fi site :salute
:lol Ben teh uber Afleck
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In game, your plane simply "blows up" if your pilot is killed. And your pilot will be killed, if you slam your plane on the ground too hard. And again, level airspeed is only part of the equation.
If I barely tap the ground, it shouldn't blow up. If I went straight in nose down I could understand, but barely tapping it, come on. All I see that should happen is either damage and/or catch on fire, not an explosion.
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If I barely tap the ground, it shouldn't blow up. If I went straight in nose down I could understand, but barely tapping it, come on. All I see that should happen is either damage and/or catch on fire, not an explosion.
What I mean by tapping the ground, is to were it sounds like the Me-163 gear hitting the ground softly, but you don't see it explode when it hits
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If I barely tap the ground, it shouldn't blow up.
I am barely tapping the ground a lot, and never blow up. I even slam my plane on the ground rather rough, and don't blow up. I'm almost sure you are just having the perception you are "barely tapping", but actually you are not.
At this point, all you could do is either providing a film where such a thing happens to you (should be easy to provide), or you just meet one of us or a trainer at the TA, demonstrating the issue.
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Wow, already knew that they can catch on fire, thx for telling me that, your only the 500th person to tell me over and over. If you didn't see, I said "BLOW UP" on impact on the runway, not catch on fire. Films of it work a bit better than pics.
The pictures I posted of the B-29s both exploded and caught fire after hard landings.
ack-ack
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This has wandered off topic. To address the original posters issue.
I have no idea what would happen to a WW2 plane if it landed at 120+ MPH as I have never been in one nor flown one in real life.
The choice made in game is to help prevent gaming the game by requiring everyone to land at reasonably safe air speeds. By doing this it prevents people from plowing in without paying any attention at all to landing correctly. It adds to the challenge of landing a sortie and makes that "name in lights" mean just a little bit more.
Here's the answer to the original question. There should have been no need to go any further, but people just can't let it go. Says a lot.
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Here's the answer to the original question. There should have been no need to go any further, but people just can't let it go. Says a lot.
Thank you Imadot :salute
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THRASH, You seem to forget my original point in your thread.
Several years ago, it WAS possible to 'gently' touch down with NO GEAR at over 200mph, slide to a stop and get a successful landing in the game... the problem is that it got so ridiculous that way too many people started landing this way which in itself (IMO) is much more unrealistic that going KAPLOW the second you touch the asphalt. Because you couldn't lower the gear at above 200mph (in most aircraft), it was faster and easier to do a belly landing at 225mph and skid to a stop, than to take the time to bleed off speed to a safe landing speed, land, apply the brakes, wait to stop and THEN END SORTIE. In real life, almost no airplane, ESPECIALLY ANYTHING BUILT DURING THE WWII era, could land successfully at those speeds even WITH functioning landing gear.
To combat this kind of behavior, HiTech made it so that any gear up landing above 120mph (or so) results in instant death, which is represented as an explosion from within the game. NOBODY is claiming that is how it would happen in real life. This is not a BUG (for people just tuning in, this was originally posted in the BUG REPORTS forum)... this is BY INTENTIONAL DESIGN to help prevent people from 'gaming the game' (refer to Skuzzy's post).
So consider this: In real life, if a WWII fighter-sized plane were to land at a speed greater than 120mph with the gear up, the plane probably would not blow up instantly, but would roll and spin and bounce and hit things and catch on fire and there is almost no chance that any of the crew would escape unharmed. If a plane had damaged or malfunctioning gear, the pilot would take the time to bleed off speed... dump fuel... find a safe, open place to land, and GENTLY land the plane at speeds below 80-90mph... and even then there is a huge chance of injury or death.
On another note, if the plane is damaged to the point to where it cannot slow down enough to lower the gear without losing control, then there would be almost no chance of the crew surviving anyway. Might as well eject and ditch the plane in that case.
So basically... if you want help learning how to land, I'll be more than happy to offer my services. If you want to cry and whine that landing in this game above 120mph with the gear up isn't realistically modeled... then you're correct. It probably ISN'T... but the game was programmed this way for an intentional reason to prevent an even MORE unrealistic practice that it appears you wish to practice as well and are now complaining about because you can't.
You've made your point, we've made ours, HTC has made theirs... there really is no reason to continue this thread any further.
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+1 tigger :salute
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To combat this kind of behavior, HiTech made it so that any gear up landing above 120mph (or so) results in instant death
You can make a belly landing up to 170 mph:
http://www.mediafire.com/?2oi2mtmg0zn
Prop hits the ground at 170, fuselage at 168mph.
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You can make a belly landing up to 170 mph:
http://www.mediafire.com/?2oi2mtmg0zn
Prop hits the ground at 170, fuselage at 168mph.
yep. i did the same today with half a wing. i was just under 170 or so.
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I always try to be just under 150 to land.
<==never uses gear except on CV's and then only sometimes.