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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Clone155 on May 12, 2010, 11:44:31 PM
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How fast can you kill a tiger in offline mode? The quickest I could get is 3 shots, 2 that take out the turret, and the 3rd that finishes it.
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Now lets take that tiger to the MA. Where the Tiger can take virtuality nothing out, yet everything can kill it! Check my records HTC, I biacth rarely, if ever! But I'm here to tell yas, the Tiger is down graded "Big Time"! Will not up one for some time now.............WHY.....will not waste the perkies. Perhaps a closer study of how effective the Tiger was is in order.
M4...all too kewl. But bottom line it still just a Sherman. No match for a Tiger!!
My 2 cents.
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Rokit
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i feal like a tard but i can't fire the dang rockets on this one :cry
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Now lets take that tiger to the MA. Where the Tiger can take virtuality nothing out, yet everything can kill it! Check my records HTC, I biacth rarely, if ever! But I'm here to tell yas, the Tiger is down graded "Big Time"! Will not up one for some time now.............WHY.....will not waste the perkies. Perhaps a closer study of how effective the Tiger was is in order.
M4...all too kewl. But bottom line it still just a Sherman. No match for a Tiger!!
My 2 cents.
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Rokit
They changed the damage model on Firefly.
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Rockets: Go to main gun, scroll through loads, AP-HE-Smoke-Rockets. Rockets have the same simple crosshair as smoke.
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One shot. Point Blank. In the ass.
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Now lets take that tiger to the MA. Where the Tiger can take virtuality nothing out, yet everything can kill it! Check my records HTC, I biacth rarely, if ever! But I'm here to tell yas, the Tiger is down graded "Big Time"! Will not up one for some time now.............WHY.....will not waste the perkies. Perhaps a closer study of how effective the Tiger was is in order.
M4...all too kewl. But bottom line it still just a Sherman. No match for a Tiger!!
My 2 cents.
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Rokit
sorry to say this but i have a feeling that you were trying to get close quarters with Tigers... This tank was meant for standing off and waiting for the enemy to come to it. Learn to fight in a Tiger in game and you'll see a difference :aok Just cuz u got the Firefly now doesnt mean that the Tiger isn't as fearsome as it was in AHI
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doesnt mean that the Tiger isn't as fearsome as it was in AHI
That is where you are wrong. It is not.
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That is where you are wrong. It is not.
ohh but im sorry to say this but when i get on a killstreak of 10 alone then im pretty sure it's still up there. Yes i know its not all the same.... gone are the days noobs and even some Vets would scream "tiger tank!!!" at a certain place..."sigh" but a good tiger driver will be able to survive a huge onslaught and roll out alive still.
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in the MA i got a tiger in one shot (2 pings) but this was with the 76
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in the MA i got a tiger in one shot (2 pings) but this was with the 76
hey jay, what distance did you make this kill at?
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1600-2000
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They changed the damage model on Firefly.
LOL for the better too. Thing was tougher then a tiger
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I was in a Tiger last nite and got 6 or 7 kills with one shot. I was hit by various other GVs several times. And with the exception of being tracked once, it came out of every fight unharmed. I was even able to kill a 47N and 190D with the MG :t
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in the MA i got a tiger in one shot (2 pings) but this was with the 76
that 76mm is a good gun :aok was oneshotting the offline tiger and t34 from decent range with it last night.
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I think the problem with the tiger is their getting to close. Reallly should be firing from 2k away. Most dont. I know I lose a tiger to that.
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So who has killed an IL2 with the rockets yet?
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Just managed to kill an M4 in one shot with the B-25's cannon...that's never happened to me before :D (the spot was on the right hand side, almost at the very back of the armour)
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Just managed to kill an M4 in one shot with the B-25's cannon...that's never happened to me before :D (the spot was on the right hand side, almost at the very back of the armour)
B25 Dweeb :aok
So who has killed an IL2 with the rockets yet?
tried to but i missed :rolleyes:
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ohh but im sorry to say this but when i get on a killstreak of 10 alone then im pretty sure it's still up there. Yes i know its not all the same.... gone are the days noobs and even some Vets would scream "tiger tank!!!" at a certain place..."sigh" but a good tiger driver will be able to survive a huge onslaught and roll out alive still.
Spikes is right, the Tiger is not as feared as it once was. Using your one example of getting a decent kill streak in it doesn't effect its "fear" level.
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Getting a 10 kill streak and using it as evidence as to the Tiger's greatness is kinda counter-intuitive. Back when the Tiger and the Panzer were the only two MBTs, a Tiger could easily erase a battlefield with 25+ kills so long as the driver was smart and the other side stayed unorganized.
It's true that a Tiger should be used at very long ranges. Its gun is now its main strength instead of its armor. Gone are the days it can be used as a plow; now its best bet is to sit on a hill in the back and snipe.
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It's true that a Tiger should be used at very long ranges. Its gun is now its main strength instead of its armor. Gone are the days it can be used as a plow; now its best bet is to sit on a hill in the back and snipe.
uhh...you DO know the tiger was a defensive weapon first and offensive 2nd? of course you would sit back and snipe. but it will still let you get rough and dirty if you need to if youre smart. i sat in a field with an open 100 degree view to my front and sniped tanks endlessly until another tiger killed me one day. about 15-20 kills
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You know what the germans called a sherman? Tommy Cooker. :lol
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I thought the Brits called them "tommy cookers" ?
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No the Brits, and Americans called them Zippos. They light on the first stike, every time. :lol
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So who has killed an IL2 with the rockets yet?
I have been waiting for this one. Thought about it the first day that the sneak peeks were released. When someone does waste a strafer with the rockets, please post pics. It's sure to be an explosive event... :devil
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uhh...you DO know the tiger was a defensive weapon first and offensive 2nd?
In real life, perhaps (in the latter part of the war I assume? I've read about it leading advances when it was still "indestructible" early/mid-war), but in Aces High I it had no competitor. It was capable of rushing forward and wreaking havok by itself (so long as the driver was ready to sacrifice his perks in the lower chance he was killed or the greater chance that the friendlies didn't capture the field). Now that some of its natural predators are in the inventory, it's best to keep them back. Sort of like AH following the war timeline. :)
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What changes were made to the FireFly now that it's perk cost has gone up?
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... the FireFly now that it's perk cost has gone up?
it has? what to?
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it has? what to?
about 40-45% of the Tiger's cost.
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ok, seems fair :aok
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You also need to keep in mind that our Tiger is a 1942 tank, where it should be fighting T-34/76 and and the 75mm sherman. M4a3(76), Pnzr and T-34(85) are later models that the TigerII would reign supreme over. The Tiger would still be superior, just not as successful.
In AHI I didn't feel that the Tiger had any more or less superiority over the Pnzr than it does now. Think about it, HTC has made no changes to either tank since then, only new tanks have been added.
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Then we need more tank to reset the bar.
M-3 Stuart Tank, British Crusader Tank, Panzer III Ausf H, King Tiger, Panther, and more that I can't think of right now. :devil
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Then we need more tank to reset the bar.
M-3 Stuart Tank, British Crusader Tank, Panzer III Ausf H, King Tiger, Panther, and more that I can't think of right now. :devil
Who says the bar needs to be reset?
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You also need to keep in mind that our Tiger is a 1942 tank, where it should be fighting T-34/76 and and the 75mm sherman.
While the first Tigers were indeed see the battlefield in late 42, it really showed up in 43. Only less than 80 had been produced before 1943. Tigers did only very few (and not particular succesfull) operations in 42.
The first operation where tigers showed up in considerable numbers (152 tanks, 113 combat ready) was the Battle of Kursk
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one shot just like with the panzer ill check other distances later
geeeeze i need to read did it in one shot woith th76 ill see what happens with 75
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So who has killed an IL2 with the rockets yet?
i aint tried an Il2 but i got a B25!! :lol :x :devil
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it has? what to?
15 perks, half of the tiger's cost
You also need to keep in mind that our Tiger is a 1942 tank, where it should be fighting T-34/76 and and the 75mm sherman. M4a3(76), Pnzr and T-34(85) are later models that the TigerII would reign supreme over. The Tiger would still be superior, just not as successful.
In AHI I didn't feel that the Tiger had any more or less superiority over the Pnzr than it does now. Think about it, HTC has made no changes to either tank since then, only new tanks have been added.
IMHO that the freaking TigerII (a.k.a. King Tiger) if not bombed would freaking reign supreme over Tigers...
Those panzers and T34/85s are still extremely vulnerable to the tiger. Both need to get into the range that the original PnzrIVH from AHI has to before being effective of ANY sort against the Tiger (only people that are new to the game, stupid enough to allow a tank to flank them, or is being overrun by armor will let this happen). the 76mm Sherman needs to make it into some sort of close range also. I was in a GV battle of one enemy tiger vs me, and two others in M4A3 76s. I had to get 700 yards off its flank in order to kill it while the other two shermans kept at distance to distract the tiger. The only true tank the Tiger must fear that is not another tiger is the British VC Firefly which you will NOT see as much of due to the new perk cost.
Here's something for you guys. Study your tactics. GVing is a tactician's sport. Yes i killed the tiger but not before my two allies in their shermans fell to its guns and immediately afterwards i was killed by a sherman 75. The Tiger remains supreme in all aspects since the perk update of the Firefly and will always, in general, reign supreme over the battlefield.
Edit: here's another thought. dont be stationary in a GV fight. with all tanks, mobility will allow for kills over a stationary fight and this includes tigers. ALSO, learn the terrain before deploying a Tiger (A Gver's best weapon in my opinion... If you know the battlefield better than the enemy you will ALWAYS be granted an advantage in a GV only fight). if there are groves of trees everywhere limiting sightlines and mobility it is preferred you use another nonperked tank... although with this low visibility and limited movement of heavy armor, vehicles such as the T34/76 T34/85 and M-8 would be able to rack kill streaks up and up if GV'd correctly...
There's my two cents :aok even if you disagree with the tiger talk, then at least read what i said below it