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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Dace on May 23, 2010, 12:12:50 PM
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LWO is 250/100 right now. :huh Seriously? A big map like Ozkansas or Trinity should NEVER be capped at 100, more especially at 1:00 PM est on Sunday :rolleyes:
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yea +1
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:aok
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Completely agree. The MA is capped at 100 w/ nearly 300 in, and the other arenas have 10 -12 players.
What kind of choice is that?
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It's Sunday afternoon...gotta run out and do some stuff with the wife in an hour......I sign-on the AH for some QUICK fun........and the Arena's look like this:
Late War Orange: 245/100
Late War Blue: 16/150
C'mon guys...seriously. I wrote about this years ago..and it's still troubling to me...that when I try to sign-in and have some fun......this is the alternative.
I liked it much better when it was wide open a few weeks back.......and I'm no computer guy...but if this is about server space......I'd sure dig if you would get bigger/better/badder servers.
this alternative just isn't fun...and like I said...more times than not...I have a limited time when I can sign-in here.
I know the "purists" here have no issue with it.......but you have to go with the majority here. there's a reason Titanic Tuesday has hordes of people here........IT's MORE FUN.
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My guess is they just won the war in blue and dumped everyone. Give it 10-15 minutes and it will stabilize again.
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I've given up trying to figure out that cap and why it is so screwy at times :noid
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Get up earlier.
An hour ago it was
Late War Orange 200/400
Late War Blue 20/400.
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Not that I disagree Zetanine...the frustration is sometimes overpowering when the caps get changed but...
Titanic Tuesday - 300+ on 1 server
Every other day (same time period)- 300-400+ split between servers.
Titanic Tuesday is not more popular, it's just a bigger crowd on one arena.
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One other thing to consider....capping the MA leads to more extended AFKs, folks are worried that if they log out, they will be capped out of the MA when they log back in.
Not to mention when it's out of your control, like with Discos.
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One other thing to consider....capping the MA leads to more extended AFKs, folks are worried that if they log out, they will be capped out of the MA when they log back in.
Not to mention when it's out of your control, like with Discos.
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:rofl you learn to just give up about arena caps and wait :aok
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Go play Warbirds where the norm is 20/400. :x
What ya gonna whine about then?
You're not allowed to complain about caps 5 minutes after they go into effect.
Solution? Caps all the time!!1! :rock
wrongway
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,289626.0.html
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I was very passionate and, I hate the internet sometimes. :D
wrongway
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IBID
wrongway
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Good googly woogly...must this horse get beaten to death each and every week?
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Get up earlier.
An hour ago it was
Late War Orange 200/400
Late War Blue 20/400.
Yea because it's sound behaviour to schedule your life around a computer game...
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Yea because it's sound behaviour to schedule your life around a computer game...
And, it's sound behavior to whine about a computer game as well.
:rock
wrongway
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The cap just went into effect. But that's OK. Whine on.
wrongway
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there's a reason Titanic Tuesday has hordes of people here........IT's MORE FUN.
not according to hitech.. he said awhile back that tuesday is actually the slowest day of the week as far as total #'s of players..
(I know I don't play on tuesdays specificially because of TT )
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and I'm no computer guy...but if this is about server space......I'd sure dig if you would get bigger/better/badder servers.
Didn't one of 'em at HTC say that the servers they use could handle 10,000 players?
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I'm a BIDNEZZ man boys......and I can tell you with absolute certainty......it's not a good business model for new customer retention.
I'm also not buying the "Tuesdays are lighter" thing. no way.
I want the OPTION to sign-in at any given time...and go into an absolute free-for-all if I so choose. those that don't.....always have the dueling arena.
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,289626.0.html
never saw it...but admittedly I wasn't looking either. I came on with the express intent of whining like a school girl. ;)
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I'm a BIDNEZZ man boys......and I can tell you with absolute certainty......it's not a good business model for new customer retention.
I bet you Hitech's wallet proves otherwise.
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not according to hitech.. he said awhile back that tuesday is actually the slowest day of the week as far as total #'s of players..
(I know I don't play on tuesdays specificially because of TT )
guessing that has more to do with the fact its a work/school day and less due with the fact its TT. Probably generally on par with wed and thurs. If tues is the slowest day its probably isnt much less than the rest of the week days.
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I bet you Hitech's wallet proves otherwise.
I don't think you understand.
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guessing that has more to do with the fact its a work/school day and less due with the fact its TT. Probably generally on par with wed and thurs. If tues is the slowest day its probably isnt much less than the rest of the week days.
I'm sure he's comparing it to other work/school days as well as Tuesday before they were Titanical. Make it Womptastic Wednesday and Wednesday's numbers will go down.
wrongway
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Some of the best fights are on smaller maps in other arenas. Yes, there are arenas other than LWO. I don't go to LWO or Titanic Tuesday...the hordes and the constant bickering and whining irritates the hell out of me. If that was my only choice, I'd never have signed up and I'd have two years of my life back.
Oh yeah, and the solution? The solution lies within each of us...
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Why do WE need a solution if YOU hate something. If you can't get into a arena and refuse to go to another, just find something else to do dude. I mean really. Does someone have to cry about this stupid watermelon every other week?!
Go out and mow the lawn, clean the house, do the dishes, defrag your computer, clean the inside of it, go fishing, walk the dog, play cards, roll a doobie, clean the gutters out, give the dog a bath, read a book, ....surely you have something else to do.
You know some of the guys on this board are as bad as my children.
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I'm a paying customer.
I represent the majority.
I apparently was not the only person to post a similar thread about it today.
It's smart for business to offer options.
I pay people to do all that other stuff already.
Why do WE need a solution if YOU hate something.
If you can't get into a arena and refuse to go to another, just find something else to do dude. I mean really. Does someone have to cry about this stupid watermelon every other week?!
Go out and mow the lawn, clean the house, do the dishes, defrag your computer, clean the inside of it, go fishing, walk the dog, play cards, roll a doobie, clean the gutters out, give the dog a bath, read a book, ....surely you have something else to do.
You know some of the guys on this board are as bad as my children.
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SIGH.......HTC isn't acting like they're not going change it, so why not just find something else to do?
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Orange arena was something like 247/200. Went into Blue arena. ENY was in the mid 20s. I agree. There needs to be a solution.
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SIGH.......HTC isn't acting like they're not going change it, so why not just find something else to do?
....this coming from the guy whining about others posts. really? really?
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Orange arena was something like 247/200. Went into Blue arena. ENY was in the mid 20s. I agree. There needs to be a solution.
you better watch out..or some of the boardahaulics will font you up.
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Some of the best fights are on smaller maps in other arenas.
fantastic......... it's wonderful there is that option.
now give the rest of us who have limited time the OTHER option.
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Arena was capped at 200 with like 90 something Bish on. I have never seen so many bomb rush missions in my life. lol. All in good fun though :cheers:
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I'm a paying customer.
I represent the majority.
I apparently was not the only person to post a similar thread about it today.
It's smart for business to offer options.
I pay people to do all that other stuff already.
This just in: World revolves around ZetaNine! Scientific community baffled! :D
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Well how about this then. Have someone from your staff contact HTC on the phone monday morning. Have HiTechs people tell your people why the HTC feels the need for the arena caps. I'm sure with all the staff involved in this endeavor, something surely will be done.
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I'm a paying customer. (yes...yes you are...)
I represent the majority. (no you don't)
I apparently was not the only person to post a similar thread about it today. (point?)
It's smart for business to offer options. (they already do...don't log in)
I pay people to do all that other stuff already. (i could make a rude comment but i held back)
HTC already knows how to work the business side of this otherwise they wouldnt have thousands of players for the game... if you want to talk to them go ahead but you don't need to gloat about how you know more than the group that nearly ran Warbirds to the ground because of its popularity. (no im not mocking Warbirds here)
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:cry Uptown made me mad :cry
Fixed :aok
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This topic has been discussed more than any one topic on this board. The answers are all over the board. Answers from HiTech, Pyro, myself, and many other players who get it.
If you chose not to believe the answers, then why in the world start the thread to begin with?
At noon, everyday, the dynamic arena caps start. If you want to have something to complain about, then login at 12:01pm CST, making sure you only want to play in the one arena which is over the top full, then come to the board and complain about it. Then all the same comments can be made over and over and over again. Maybe I should just bump one of these threads at noon CST, everyday. That way it will keep you from having to start the same complaint over again. It is becoming obvious there are people who live for this. Who refuse to try and understand why it is being done. Who would rather call us liars when we explain why it is done.
I am thinking the only way to stop these particular threads is if HiTech decides to reset the arenas at the same time. Of course, that also will reset the terrain back to the beginning as well. It would also start a whole new series of daily complaints to the board.
We have also stated, many, many, many times. If you have a better solution on how to populate two late war arenas and get them to the level where both arenas are fun to play in, then let us know.
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It doesn't matter that HTC has been doing the online flight sim thing long before most of us have been playing. There will always be a select few that have nothing more to offer then complaints and whines. Their 15 bucks allows for the world to revolve around their lives and time frames.
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We have also stated, many, many, many times. If you have a better solution on how to populate two late war arenas and get them to the level where both arenas are fun to play in, then let us know.
honestly...and being as candid as I can be.....I've sent numerous messages to you regarding me getting in touch with HT about a wonderful Idea of have to attract hundreds of new members (paying customers)........for free..at no cost to HT. all have since been ignored. I took that as "we're not interested".
on the other stuff...I get that the current methodology is the status quo. I'm just still hoping it's changed.
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frig it...here's my big idea that I have been wanting to disclose to HT for months.........although I don't know how to get a hold of him:
these cam sites are popping up all over the internet.......where they provide anyone the opportunity to broadcast........free. it even comes with a chat room .....the ability to add links and content.......
and yes...businesses are using these free resources as marketing tools...and so should you guys. (there are a plethora of gamers who frequent these sites)
if there was a way for you guys to broadcasts the a live video/audio feed of Aces High...it would be a potential gold mine in potential new customers....
http://www.justin.tv/directory/featured#r=hhUn6hY~
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frig it...here's my big idea that I have been wanting to disclose to HT for months.........although I don't know how to get a hold of him:
these cam sites are popping up all over the internet.......where they provide anyone the opportunity to set up their own dedicated channel....and broadcast........for free. it even comes with a chat room .....the ability to add links and content.......
and yes...businesses are using these free resources as marketing tools...and so should you guys. (there are a plethora of gamers who frequent these sites)
if there was a way for you guys to broadcasts the a live video/audio feed of Aces High...it would be a potential gold mine in potential new customers....
http://www.justin.tv/directory/featured#r=hhUn6hY~
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I do not recall ever seeing anything from you that pertained to solving the problem of filling two arenas to levels when both are fun to play in.
That TV thing does not solve the problem. HiTech can be reached many ways. Call him (817-251-1540), PM him on the bulletin board.
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I do not recall ever seeing anything from you that pertained to solving the problem of filling two arenas to levels when both are fun to play in.
I just asked for his contact info......and mentioned free advertising.
the larger issue......is the definition of "fun to play in"...which seems to mean two succinctly different things to everyone here. it seems to be predicated on less people or more people.
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I just asked for his contact info......and mentioned free advertising.
the larger issue......is the definition of "fun to play in"...which seems to mean two succinctly different things to everyone here. it seems to be predicated on less people or more people.
Actually there a minimum and a maximum where the arenas are fun to play in. The goal of the dynamic arena configuration is to get the minimum as fast as possible. It is a critical mass issue.
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Skuzzy's answer is: More people = a social cess pool (see thread above)
By setting the cap he's after people to log off....simple
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My guess is they just won the war in blue and dumped everyone. Give it 10-15 minutes and it will stabilize again.
Nope, thats how the people flocked today.
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I'm sure he's comparing it to other work/school days as well as Tuesday before they were Titanical. Make it Womptastic Wednesday and Wednesday's numbers will go down.
wrongway
thats funny and likely inaccurate considering AH had equal numbers prior to the caps. peak times back then (Fri and sat night) were 500-600+ on par with what we have now and sometimes over 700 when rooks had their weekly squad night.
I know HT posted numbers that says the game has grown much since but i have a good memory and honestly dont see that much a difference. If there has been growth its been minimal.
i personally thought the caps were for 2 reasons. 1 back then there were more small maps and the lag with 500+ on a small map could get pretty bad. 2 to give a losing country or country with bad numbers an alternate to getting horded by the bish/nit hordes. Back then the noobs all joined either bish or nit since they always had numbers compared to rooks who only had numbers that 1 day a week.
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+10000000
Its like Aces High hell being traped in EW, MW, or LWB, when all have either very few players on, or are running a map that isn't very conductive to fights.
And Skuzzy, I'd agree with the minimum and maximum thing. But on large maps the minimum is around 150-200 IMO. There just aren't enough people to cover all that ground, and that leads to lots of base sneaks, wich can lead to getting flanked out so to speak (multiple GV spawns into the same base, and several good sized fights means not all those spawns will be covered. and THAT means that an M3 will eventually get troops into the maproom.)
And forgive me if this breaks some unspoken rule, but seeing as HTC is a company, wouldn't it be good for profits, and therefor good for the company, to get as many people playing as possible? If there is nothing fun going on, then I just log.
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Actually there a minimum and a maximum where the arenas are fun to play in. The goal of the dynamic arena configuration is to get the minimum as fast as possible.
I generally agree, but imo the minimum and maximum values vary based on the size of the map. Smaller maps will require less players but will degrade quicker. Large maps, the opposite. Since the orange and blue map rotations are seemingly random in that there is no code set to make sure there is always a small and large map in rotation, it doesn't seem you guys have taken this point into consideration.
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Skuzzy's answer is: More people = a social cess pool (see thread above)
By setting the cap he's after people to log off....simple
(http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/royal-fail.jpg)
You don't need a second arena if you want to force people to log off. If that was the case, why waste resources? Just have one capped arena. Either you're in or you're not.
Second arena = somewhere else to go.
wrongway
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(http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/royal-fail.jpg)
You don't need a second arena if you want to force people to log off. If that was the case, why waste resources? Just have one capped arena. Either you're in or you're not.
Second arena = somewhere else to go.
wrongway
here we go again......
I for one am happy to have a second choice six days a week and i am also a fan of TT most of the time :aok
that second choice is not always what i want but i try to make the best of it.
I can't see the point of getting pizzd about a capped arena, just wait a few minutes and it usually changes.
i think we all want the same thing here, the game to be fun for everyone, for me i have to find ways to keep it fun so the fact that an arena is capped every once and a while is low on the list of complaints i would have today.
that is all
froger
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Didn't one of 'em at HTC say that the servers they use could handle 10,000 players?
And when you complain about lag and FPS i will be your fault
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Why do WE need a solution if YOU hate something. If you can't get into a arena and refuse to go to another, just find something else to do dude. I mean really. Does someone have to cry about this stupid watermelon every other week?!
Go out and mow the lawn, clean the house, do the dishes, defrag your computer, clean the inside of it, go fishing, walk the dog, play cards, roll a doobie, clean the gutters out, give the dog a bath, read a book, WASH THE VAN ....surely you have something else to do.
You know some of the guys on this board are as bad as my children.
Fixed! :aok Sorry... couldn't resist.
I would be "in" for hi-cap weekends. As frustrating as the "cap" is at times... we play on. :joystick:
BTW... Dad? I could use a bigger allowance.
X :salute
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(http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac109/Sperky76/beating_a_dead_horse.jpg)
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honestly...and being as candid as I can be.....I've sent numerous messages to you regarding me getting in touch with HT about a wonderful Idea of have to attract hundreds of new members (paying customers)........for free..at no cost to HT. all have since been ignored. I took that as "we're not interested".
on the other stuff...I get that the current methodology is the status quo. I'm just still hoping it's changed.
Maybe your ideas weren't any good and HiTech and crew were just being polite instead of laughing at your ideas. Well, they probably did laugh at them but they were polite enough to not do it in your face.
ack-ack
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Maybe your ideas weren't any good and HiTech and crew were just being polite instead of laughing at your ideas. Well, they probably did laugh at them but they were polite enough to not do it in your face.
ack-ack
I never mentioned the idea......just asked for his contact info.
the idea by the way...is fantastic.
broadcasting arena action on live cam sites is genius. (AND FREE) a 24/7 Live feed of AH on this and other channels would bring in HUNDREDS of new paying customers. http://www.justin.tv/directory/featured#r=r3Bk2X0~
it sure beats paying for ads on the military channel.
it would also behoove them to contact a few cable channels and see if they cannot get some interest in said channels featuring AH in some tech related segments.
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And when you complain about lag and FPS i will be your fault
It is not about fault. The first step in solving an issue is to identify the source of the issue.
Here is some logic for you. If the servers were the problem, everyone, and I mean 100% of the players online would have the same exact problems. 100% of the players do not have the problem. Want proof? What do you think would happen if I pulled the Ethernet cable from the back of the server? Do you think it would effect 100% of the players?
Now, back it out one step from the servers. If it was our immediate Internet connection, to the servers, again, 100% of the players online would have the same exact issues.
Now, keep backing away from the servers and eventually you will find the problem. It could be any carrier/router between you and the servers. Where and what the exact problem is, for any given person online, could vary, but if you want to beat your head against the wall and not actually try to find the issue, then blame the servers. It is much easier to do.
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Forget the server..... I like to blame the BigIP. :neener:
....but if you want to beat your head against the wall and not actually try to find the issue, then blame the servers. It is much easier to do.
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I generally agree, but imo the minimum and maximum values vary based on the size of the map. Smaller maps will require less players but will degrade quicker. Large maps, the opposite. Since the orange and blue map rotations are seemingly random in that there is no code set to make sure there is always a small and large map in rotation, it doesn't seem you guys have taken this point into consideration.
Agreed.
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I never mentioned the idea......just asked for his contact info.
the idea by the way...is fantastic.
broadcasting arena action on live cam sites is genius. (AND FREE) a 24/7 Live feed of AH on this and other channels would bring in HUNDREDS of new paying customers. http://www.justin.tv/directory/featured#r=r3Bk2X0~
it sure beats paying for ads on the military channel.
it would also behoove them to contact a few cable channels and see if they cannot get some interest in said channels featuring AH in some tech related segments.
Broadcast what from where?
And, when someone asks for your contact information, some random person from the internet, what do you do?
wrongway
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I never mentioned the idea......just asked for his contact info.
the idea by the way...is fantastic.
broadcasting arena action on live cam sites is genius. (AND FREE) a 24/7 Live feed of AH on this and other channels would bring in HUNDREDS of new paying customers. http://www.justin.tv/directory/featured#r=r3Bk2X0~
I read your idea in the other thread and consider it not very well thought out.
What exactly are they broadcasting? Are you saying HTC should set up a webcam that is pointing at a monitor that is showing what...?
The tower at some field?
What are people going to click and watch exactly?
Where is this "action" you speak of and how will they "show" it.
The ONLY thing that has merit (which you didn't suggest) would be to have them run their commercial over and over on a loop. Or maybe get a couple hours worth of films and run those on a loop.
THAT might work to a small degree.
Doubt it would be worth the effort though.
(oh, and welcome to the mid-90's btw)
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It is not about fault. The first step in solving an issue is to identify the source of the issue.
Here is some logic for you. If the servers were the problem, everyone, and I mean 100% of the players online would have the same exact problems. 100% of the players do not have the problem. Want proof? What do you think would happen if I pulled the Ethernet cable from the back of the server? Do you think it would effect 100% of the players?
Now, back it out one step from the servers. If it was our immediate Internet connection, to the servers, again, 100% of the players online would have the same exact issues.
Now, keep backing away from the servers and eventually you will find the problem. It could be any carrier/router between you and the servers. Where and what the exact problem is, for any given person online, could vary, but if you want to beat your head against the wall and not actually try to find the issue, then blame the servers. It is much easier to do.
Yep, I agree about the servers. What about the FE though? That is where my problems have been since day one. I ve been through several computers but never been able to get decent FPS or avoid statering, and never been able to run in high detail. After last update all the new stuff had to be turned off so I could maintain 50fps with no one around. Titanic Tuesday though (in busy areas) was impossible to play, so I spent most of my time in the DA. That is part of the reason am not playing anymore, although, the account is still active.
I also agree on not addressing the issues. It is easier to say the servers have no problem and not address the real issues of the FE and the game engine since most people don't understand what is going on and there is always the fun club to make you look stupid for complaining on the bbs :aok
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Dedalos, if you start with an OEM computer, from say Hewlett Packard. You would have to spend a lot of time cleaning it up so the CPU is not drowning in processes. Then there are players who simply ask too much of the hardware they have available. I have even had players argue with me about how their video card should be able to handle something and they refuse to disable a feature I tell them is causing thier problem.
At any rate, I can speculate as to why any given front end performs poorly, but without specifics, it is just speculation. There are just too many possible combinations out there to make much sense with just speculation. If you have something specific, then lets address that.
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Broadcast what from where?
And, when someone asks for your contact information, some random person from the internet, what do you do?
wrongway
you (and LUTE) must not have visited the site...or you would have the answers you seek.
one can broadcast whatever they want...live action...or a recording of titanic tuesday. nobody asks for contact information. and they can set up their profile page with a link right to the Aces High website.
THE EDUCATION IS FREE TODAY, BOYS.
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you (and LUTE) must not have visited the site...or you would have the answers you seek.
one can broadcast whatever they want...live action...or a recording of titanic tuesday. nobody asks for contact information. and they can set up their profile page with a link right to the Aces High website.
THE EDUCATION IS FREE TODAY, BOYS.
All the fun stuff is blocked where I am. As I type, I may be monitored.
I'll check it out but I'm still not clear on what would be shown to entice new players. A recording of what of Titanic Tuesday?
wrongway
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All the fun stuff is blocked where I am. As I type, I may be monitored.
I'll check it out but I'm still not clear on what would be shown to entice new players. A recording of what of Titanic Tuesday?
wrongway
as much as possible.... a naval battle...an air battle.....a GV battle.... users at these sites can post an "endless loop" (recording) to be broadcast 24/7...or broadcast live...as I have said. thousands of gamers on those cam sites...the perfect demographic. it's a no brainer.
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Not to be mean but, thousands of gamers, very popular yadda yadda yadda, and none of the addicts here (including me) have ever heard of it, use it, or know what it is about.
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as much as possible.... a naval battle...an air battle.....a GV battle.... users at these sites can post an "endless loop" (recording) to be broadcast 24/7...or broadcast live...as I have said. thousands of gamers on those cam sites...the perfect demographic. it's a no brainer.
Great, thats what this sim needs, is a bunch of WoW and Quake nerds invading it.. PASS!
As much as we hate to admit it, it is a game. It is a game with a very strong following by a core group that are not playing it because of the cool graphics or the nifty arenas, but because of the genre it represents. This is why HTC advertises on the channels that they do. They aren't going after everyone that can by a joystick, they are going after those that can appreciate the game for what is offers outside of being the bestestist.
Bottom line is, there's always something to do.. whether or not its what you want to do is a different story.
P.S. Just an FYI, if you log in around 1:00pm edt, the caps are usually just starting to be enforced. If you give it a little bit, they even out quite quickly.
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Dedalos, if you start with an OEM computer, from say Hewlett Packard. You would have to spend a lot of time cleaning it up so the CPU is not drowning in processes. Then there are players who simply ask too much of the hardware they have available. I have even had players argue with me about how their video card should be able to handle something and they refuse to disable a feature I tell them is causing thier problem.
At any rate, I can speculate as to why any given front end performs poorly, but without specifics, it is just speculation. There are just too many possible combinations out there to make much sense with just speculation. If you have something specific, then lets address that.
Are not the newer computers have more process than before? I noticed windows 7 and vista (especially vista) having a lot of processes in the background on a stock puter.
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Not to be mean but, thousands of gamers, very popular yadda yadda yadda, and none of the addicts here (including me) have ever heard of it, use it, or know what it is about.
you've never heard of cam sites?
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Are not the newer computers have more process than before? I noticed windows 7 and vista (especially vista) having a lot of processes in the background on a stock puter.
Yes, faster CPU's with slower sound chips, worse onboard video chips, low end Ethernet chips and far more processes than ever before. It is quite easy to buy a new computer than runs worse than a 3 year old box would, even if it appears, on the surface, to have better credentials.
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Great, thats what this sim needs, is a bunch of WoW and Quake nerds invading it.. PASS!
As much as we hate to admit it, it is a game. It is a game with a very strong following by a core group that are not playing it because of the cool graphics or the nifty arenas, but because of the genre it represents. This is why HTC advertises on the channels that they do. They aren't going after everyone that can by a joystick, they are going after those that can appreciate the game for what is offers outside of being the bestestist.
Bottom line is, there's always something to do.. whether or not its what you want to do is a different story.
P.S. Just an FYI, if you log in around 1:00pm edt, the caps are usually just starting to be enforced. If you give it a little bit, they even out quite quickly.
there is a secret number.........that I assume only HT knows.........which directly represents the exact amount of NEW customers that is needed...to balance out the old customers who we lose to attrition.
if that number is not met... eventually cutbacks begin.....and you know the rest of the story. that's business. I offered HT a great promotional tool...that's free.
I stopped reading at your "quake" comment....for obvious reasons. spare me your demographic spin.
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there is a secret number.........that I assume only HT knows.........which directly represents the exact amount of NEW customers that is needed...to balance out the old customers who we lose to attrition.
if that number is not met... eventually cutbacks begin.....and you know the rest of the story. that's business. I offered HT a great promotional tool...that's free.
I stopped reading at your "quake" comment....for obvious reasons. spare me your demographic spin.
Well the I guess some more thought should have been put into the continuous rant that you ever so annoyingly keep repeating.
Just a guess, but I think HTC has a pretty good handle on what they are & need to be doing. They've been around long enough. Although your logic is correct as far as the #s needed and so forth, so please don't think I'm knocking you for that. Hell, you came up with an idea, which is more than a lot of people choose to do. Fact of the matter is, the justin.tv thing would do just that, turn it into something HTC has done so great to avoid, i.e Quake.
Now on a side not, have you ever though, that what you are mentioning is the exact reason the "old timers" are leaving? Since this new influx of players have came in, the game as significantly changed. A lot of the vets didn't agree with them, like them, and the new players are literally killing the game in some eyes. The hoarding, hangar killing, ho'ng, the list in continuous.
So while your effort should be applauded, again I say when trying for something like this, you really need to think it through, which could be why HTC never got back to you. (That or maybe they think its just as crazy as I do?)
Just my opinion :)
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Well the I guess some more thought should have been put into the continuous rant that you ever so annoyingly keep repeating.
Just a guess, but I think HTC has a pretty good handle on what they are & need to be doing. They've been around long enough. Although your logic is correct as far as the #s needed and so forth, so please don't think I'm knocking you for that. Hell, you came up with an idea, which is more than a lot of people choose to do. Fact of the matter is, the justin.tv thing would do just that, turn it into something HTC has done so great to avoid, i.e Quake.
Now on a side not, have you ever though, that what you are mentioning is the exact reason the "old timers" are leaving? Since this new influx of players have came in, the game as significantly changed. A lot of the vets didn't agree with them, like them, and the new players are literally killing the game in some eyes. The hoarding, hangar killing, ho'ng, the list in continuous.
So while your effort should be applauded, again I say when trying for something like this, you really need to think it through, which could be why HTC never got back to you. (That or maybe they think its just as crazy as I do?)
Just my opinion :)
reading is fundemental....I never sent the idea to HT.
your blind faith in HT in that he is "doing all the right things" is admirable...but I've yet to meet a good businessman that was closed to any new lines of thinking, pertaining to new revenue streams...for free.
as to why people are leaving...here and now...my first hunch is the economy/spendable income more than anything else.
attrition is always an issue.
this is free advertising...meaning there is nothing to lose from trying this on several cam sites.
your "new people will ruin this place" line of thinking is duly noted.
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Actually if you go back through the so called "I'm leaving" posts that so many have posted, majority of it is because the game is "no longer fun anymore" for one reason or another. Now yes, you'll have those who leave because of health, financial, and god willing those who just don't want to play anymore. Most though is due to the lack of fun factor.
Bigger doesn't mean better, hell look what happened when HTC themselves did something for free.. it was exploited and eventually ruined.
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"I'm leaving threads" (generally) are more of a cry for attention than anything esle....
and most of the customers I talk to in the game say they never post here.
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I'm with Zeta on this. You leaving only affects those you fly with and your close buddies. Not much need for a public announcment.
And PK1Mw, having a large map capped at 100 isn't going to make things fun either. Honestly, I would rather have a large map stuffed with cannon fodder, than a large map full of aces who jump to whatever base is flashing, making captures very difficult, or impossible depending on what field they are at.
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you (and LUTE) must not have visited the site...or you would have the answers you seek.
one can broadcast whatever they want...live action...or a recording of titanic tuesday. nobody asks for contact information. and they can set up their profile page with a link right to the Aces High website.
THE EDUCATION IS FREE TODAY, BOYS.
wait... you just now are figuring out about web cams and WE are the ones needing an education?
you are like 10+yrs behind the internet curve (why I welcomed you to the mid 90's)
I took your idea, fleshed it out a bit, made it somewhat viable, and truth be told it still sucks.
what you fail to "get" is that HTC shoots for a particular TYPE of subscribers and their advertising is catered to that.
the type of people that sit on web cam sites all day are probably not going to subscribe to AcesHigh.
just the wrong demographic.
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I've harped on my opinion of arena caps enough in the past. They're no-good and no-fun but HTC firmly beilieves they lead to making more good and thus making more fun.
My friend took a quick trip to Vegas this weekend and I pitched in some time to babysit his almost 3-yo girl. I got a call from him last night asking me wtf was a "weeena cap bad" and why his little girl was saying it after her brief stay at my place this weekend. But he understood and apreciated me teaching her to bable/yell "ozzy ozzy ozzy!", next month we'll work on the "ois!".
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Here's an idea. Just for a week, have both arenas open with no caps. Let the numbers decide. Check the status of both arenas periodically through the day. Those that say they hate TT due to lag have another arena to go to, all the while giving all players to choose what they prefer by the numbers displayed. I think that that would settle arguments about this subject. There will be those who prefer one side or the other but that way the majority can speak buy the numbers displayed rather then the posts here on the bbs.
Call it an experiment if you will, just to see.
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Here's an idea. Just for a week, have both arenas open with no caps. Let the numbers decide. Check the status of both arenas periodically through the day. Those that say they hate TT due to lag have another arena to go to, all the while giving all players to choose what they prefer by the numbers displayed. I think that that would settle arguments about this subject. There will be those who prefer one side or the other but that way the majority can speak buy the numbers displayed rather then the posts here on the bbs.
Call it an experiment if you will, just to see.
They did that a couple of weeks ago when WW1 was released. If anything, it seemed to me, there was the usual number in one arena and 30 people in the other arena.
Seemed like less people flying over all.
wrongway
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wait... you just now are figuring out about web cams and WE are the ones needing an education?
you are like 10+yrs behind the internet curve (why I welcomed you to the mid 90's)
I took your idea, fleshed it out a bit, made it somewhat viable, and truth be told it still sucks.
what you fail to "get" is that HTC shoots for a particular TYPE of subscribers and their advertising is catered to that.
the type of people that sit on web cam sites all day are probably not going to subscribe to AcesHigh.
just the wrong demographic.
to the contrary...I DO get it. afterall...I'm one of those types.
I don't recall saying I just found out about it....I'm saying it's something HT has perhaps never tried...and the ratio of risk to return makes it a great idea for attracting new customers...since it's free. not a hard concept to grasp.
I think hundreds would take the two week free look...and after a year...HT may find 50 to 100 new customers because of it..who are the "type"...and say so with their continued paying membership.
I understand your negativity is based largely in a "everything is fine" mentality...but I assure you..in an economy like this.."fine" just may not be good enough.
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They did that a couple of weeks ago when WW1 was released. If anything, it seemed to me, there was the usual number in one arena and 30 people in the other arena.
Seemed like less people flying over all.
wrongway
But unlike titanic tuesday when you don't have a choice, they had a choice. So caps in that sense did not matter. Most people will go to the arena with the most players, imho. But the most complaining I see of TT is due to lag. With 2 arenas with no cap, then they have a choice. But I'm just being a devils advocate here. I'll still fly either way even though I would rather be one of those flying in the popular arena.
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I agree with canacka. Provide an arena that runs small maps for small numbers, and an arena that runs the large maps. That way you are no longers stranding people in LWB.
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But unlike titanic tuesday when you don't have a choice, they had a choice. So caps in that sense did not matter. Most people will go to the arena with the most players, imho. But the most complaining I see of TT is due to lag. With 2 arenas with no cap, then they have a choice. But I'm just being a devils advocate here. I'll still fly either way even though I would rather be one of those flying in the popular arena.
That high-lighted part is actually the basis for the problem with static caps. The player will not do what is good for the business. The player will simply follow the numbers regardless of the damage it might actually do to the business.
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Are not the newer computers have more process than before? I noticed windows 7 and vista (especially vista) having a lot of processes in the background on a stock puter.
:lol Been running with 18 processes on XP for ever and it is not a stock computer. Maybe it needs to be 17?
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That high-lighted part is actually the basis for the problem with static caps. The player will not do what is good for the business. The player will simply follow the numbers regardless of the damage it might actually do to the business.
I think we can all see this same thing in some gameplay also... Lemmings attracted to green bar-dar, 2 sectors of attackers against 3 or 4 defenders, etc.
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And PK1Mw, having a large map capped at 100 isn't going to make things fun either. Honestly, I would rather have a large map stuffed with cannon fodder, than a large map full of aces who jump to whatever base is flashing, making captures very difficult, or impossible depending on what field they are at.
That is the most asinine thing i've ever heard. So you are literally saying you would rather play with a bunch of two-bit noobs than actually play against people who are better than you, which in turn would make you better? I mean, that's like saying you're 7 ft and suck at basketball so you would rather participate in a basketball league with a bunch of vertically challenged munchkins just so you can seem halfway decent.
C'mon man, if you just want to shoot at stuff without any kind of resistance, stay in the offline mode.
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That is the most asinine thing i've ever heard. So you are literally saying you would rather play with a bunch of two-bit noobs than actually play against people who are better than you, which in turn would make you better? I mean, that's like saying you're 7 ft and suck at basketball so you would rather participate in a basketball league with a bunch of vertically challenged munchkins just so you can seem halfway decent.
C'mon man, if you just want to shoot at stuff without any kind of resistance, stay in the offline mode.
Amen! "7ft and....." :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl Miss ya bro. See you in just over a month.
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Amen! "7ft and....." :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl Miss ya bro. See you in just over a month.
It'll definitely be a blast.. I feel bad for some people who will be there lol
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No, but I would rather play in an arena full of cannon fodder than in one full of people who are better than me and have a numbers advantage of about 1.75 to 1.
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why not make 1 of the l8 war areana's ww1..then slowly expand it like HTC did with AH to begin with..this 2 MA thing isnt right..what made AH awesome was 600 700 peeps trying to do they'r thing..just saying
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