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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: outfctrl on May 25, 2010, 09:57:53 AM
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Hey Everyone. I am thinking about signing up for this game. I used to belong to a squadron in IL2 Sturmovic 1942. I flew an SBD in the Japanese theater. We would take off from the carrier, meet the Japanese and fight. The enemy were AI's. I used to have the protection of the wildcats while flying toward my objective, then release my bombs either on ships or land based targets. Sometimes one of the guys would fly as my rear gunner. After we completed our mission, if we completed it, we would fly back to the carrier and land. If you crashed, all your kills were voided. This made me very nervous...LOL
All the aircraft had true flight characteristics for that type of aircraft.
My question is, how is the combat and realism in this game? Are there real people on the ground and air shooting at me or AI?
Thanks all.
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Welcome :cheers:
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just try it out for 2 weeks free... Then u can answer your own questions... Good luck..
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When you fly online yes you are fighting against real people and there is no AI.
I would also point out that the Flight Model is head and shoulders better than IL2.
2-week trial is free.
Welcome to your new addiction.
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My question is, how is the combat and realism in this game? Are there real people on the ground and air shooting at me or AI?
Welcome outofctrl,
To answer your questions, the combat and realism in this game is pretty good (what else would you expect to be said at the BBS of the game you are asking? hehe). HiTech tries to model all of the aircraft in game as accurately to their original, wartime, performance as he can find accurate sources for. There are definitely different feelings between the aircraft in IL2 and AH. Some are less forgiving, some more.
Yes, there are real people on the ground and the air shooting at you, but there are also some AI. When you get near a carrier task force, or near an airfield or strategic targets, usually you will find Anti-Air firing at you automatically. There is the ability to man some of those guns as well, so you may run into a mix of manual and automated AI gunnery defense.
Here in Aces High, your kills are not voided due to a crash. HOWEVER, there is a scoring system which IS affected, as well as a perk system. The perk system is kind of like AH's "money". There are a few very powerful aircraft that have a cost associated (such as the ME-262). When you kill another aircraft, you earn perks. If you land on the runway, you get to keep 100% of what you earn. If you land 2 or more kills in a single flight, a message pops up that everyone can see stating "Outfctrl has landed X kills as a member of ?? squadron".
Hope that helps answer a couple of questions. There is a free 2 week trial available, and I HIGHLY recommend getting in touch with the trainers. They can be excellent sources of information on not only how to fly, but other info on how the game runs.
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Welcome outofctrl,
To answer your questions, the combat and realism in this game is pretty good (what else would you expect to be said at the BBS of the game you are asking? hehe). HiTech tries to model all of the aircraft in game as accurately to their original, wartime, performance as he can find accurate sources for. There are definitely different feelings between the aircraft in IL2 and AH. Some are less forgiving, some more.
Yes, there are real people on the ground and the air shooting at you, but there are also some AI. When you get near a carrier task force, or near an airfield or strategic targets, usually you will find Anti-Air firing at you automatically. There is the ability to man some of those guns as well, so you may run into a mix of manual and automated AI gunnery defense.
Here in Aces High, your kills are not voided due to a crash. HOWEVER, there is a scoring system which IS affected, as well as a perk system. The perk system is kind of like AH's "money". There are a few very powerful aircraft that have a cost associated (such as the ME-262). When you kill another aircraft, you earn perks. If you land on the runway, you get to keep 100% of what you earn. If you land 2 or more kills in a single flight, a message pops up that everyone can see stating "Outfctrl has landed X kills as a member of ?? squadron".
Hope that helps answer a couple of questions. There is a free 2 week trial available, and I HIGHLY recommend getting in touch with the trainers. They can be excellent sources of information on not only how to fly, but other info on how the game runs.
Nice post.
Outfctrl, is the SBD the only plane you flew? Just wondering.
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Welcome!
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You can also download the game for free and play OFFLINE for as long as you need to get comfortable with it. There are also offline missions you can download and fly against AI planes. Once you go online (no credit card or other payment information required), your two-week clock starts ticking. You can do anything online for that free trial period, but I recommend getting the basics down offline so you can maximize your online trial period.
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When you fly online the following are human-controlled:
>Planes (all)
>Ground Vehicles including PT boats (All except the truck convoys/barges/trains)
>Certain gun positions on Carriers, Air-fields or V-bases (Manned guns are 37mm on anything but a Carrier where you can get anything from single 20mm to quad 40mm to 5" Puffy).
AI controls:
>Auto ack: This includes: The large amount of small caliber round fired at once when flying near an Air-field. The 2 guns on far edges of a V-base firing. The large amount of varying sized Ack firing at you from a CV, this includes Puffy ack if you are above 3,000ft.
> As a tip: Auto ack guns fire in bursts of 4 rounds (fire-fire-fire-fire......fire-fire-fire-fire....etc.), and manned guns will fire 1 bullet at a time (unless it's a Carrier's quad gun).
As for realism: The Main arenas tend to not have realistic fights (P-51d vs Spit16, P-38 vs B-24, etc.) but the flight models are top-notch. You will find some realistic fights at times though. For a true realism arena (F6F-5's vs A6M5b's, etc) you will want to look at the AvA (Axis vs Allies) arena. There are also Snapshots (Wednesday nights), Friday Night Squadron Operations and Scenarios that are historically accurate fights.
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Wanted to add this:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/board,504.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/board,504.0.html)
Since FA is calling it quits, lots of players from Fighter Ace coming over to AH and asking lots of good questions that should also help you out.
Welcome :salute
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All the aircraft had true flight characteristics for that type of aircraft.
My question is, how is the combat and realism in this game? Are there real people on the ground and air shooting at me or AI?
Thanks all.
Welcome to AH. You will find there are a large number of people here who have tried IL2 and all of them will tell you the same thing, "true flight characteristics" doesn't exist in IL2. When you jump online in here, you are flying some of the best researched, tested and programmed flight models in online combat flight sims against live people from around the world. It's not perfect, but compared to others, it's head and shoulders above what you can get off a retail store shelf.
There are some auto/drone things that will fire at you without anyone manning them.
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Nice post.
Outfctrl, is the SBD the only plane you flew? Just wondering.
Thanks all for the great answers! I will download tonight.
I mostly flew the SBD, but once in awhile I flew the Wildcat. Another was the B25. Very easy to takeoff and land. I have a TrackIR too, which really helps in my flying and identifying targets.
The SBD was my main aircraft with my squadron. We had fighters and bombers. I was in the bomber squadron.
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You probably have teamspeak or ventrilo but there is built in voice comms with AH too. For anyone within icon viewing distance, using F12 will give you 4 seconds to say something before you have to re-key. Make sure you mic is configured in Windows control panel before you jump into Ah.
You might want to read through this too:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/frindex.html (http://www.hitechcreations.com/frindex.html)
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Good to have you here pal.... welcome to AH
additionally...once you DL the game....if your computer is up to it...there is a High Rez DL that makes things really pop
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Practice off-line at first to get every thing set up, and to get a feel of the flight model. Your two week free trial period doesn't start until you go online.
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Welcome to the addiction. You can check out, but you may never leave...
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Good to have you here pal.... welcome to AH
additionally...once you DL the game....if your computer is up to it...there is a High Rez DL that makes things really pop
Speaking of, I couldn't find any info to support my 24" monitor 1920 x 1200. I am running windows 7, Quad Core, 8 gigs of ram and a NVidia GTX 285 video card.
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Speaking of, I couldn't find any info to support my 24" monitor 1920 x 1200. I am running windows 7, Quad Core, 8 gigs of ram and a NVidia GTX 285 video card.
oh sweet jesus youre gonna be loving the graphics in this game... :O
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oh sweet jesus youre gonna be lving the graphics in this game... :O
Everywhere I read, there was no mention of 1920x1200. Are you saying I can run this game on that setting?
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welcome sir :aok
theres a bit of a learning curve but stay with it and you will love it !
best 15 bucks you will spend in the month
:salute
froger
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Everywhere I read, there was no mention of 1920x1200. Are you saying I can run this game on that setting?
AcesHigh supports 1920x1200 no problem.
even goes higher than that actually.
I THINK 2048x1536 is max.
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Everywhere I read, there was no mention of 1920x1200. Are you saying I can run this game on that setting?
i meant you will have some of the best graphics in the game by far... :aok 1920X1200 is supported
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Great!!
Cant wait to get home and down load it. Thanks everyone for all the great answers.
See you in the skies
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you can download offline missions to get more of a feel to the physics and flight model etc before you sign up for the trial. The FM in Aces High is very good and I prefer it over IL2, although IL2 is fun I found the FM to be more generic accross the plane set, where as the difference between flying a 109F4 and 109k4 is very clear, engine torque is modelled in aces high which i don't think its modelled in IL2. I am not knocking IL2 as I do enjoy playing it.
Try the free trial and have fun, if you like historic match ups check out http://ahevents.org/ as there are alot of hosted events.
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Welcome :salute your system will rock the game, It's similar to mine except I'm running dual 285GTX's
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Great!!
Cant wait to get home and down load it. Thanks everyone for all the great answers.
See you in the skies
outofcntrl. if you go bishop, find me and my squaddies of the 582nd Kokutai. We'll be happy to help you out.
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Everywhere I read, there was no mention of 1920x1200. Are you saying I can run this game on that setting?
I do!
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Well, I loaded it last night and played around with my X52. For the life of me I cant seem to configure the stick and throttle. I will try again tonight. I crashed every time I took off. I gain speed, slowly pull back the stick and I spin to the right and crash. Over and Over.
I closed the game and flew my Mooney Bravo in FSX multiplayer a little to release my frustration. Gonna try again tonight.
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It's probabely the torque thats pulling you over.
Depends what plane you're flying if your using rudder ...
+ you might want to take off in auto mode first untill you get all your settings fixed.
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Well, I loaded it last night and played around with my X52. For the life of me I cant seem to configure the stick and throttle. I will try again tonight. I crashed every time I took off. I gain speed, slowly pull back the stick and I spin to the right and crash. Over and Over.
I closed the game and flew my Mooney Bravo in FSX multiplayer a little to release my frustration. Gonna try again tonight.
In this game, there is an Auto Takeoff Setting that is automatically enabled, and I would recommend not touching this setting. You will know it is on when you are taking off and you see green text in the middle of your screen that says "Auto Takeoff Enabled". When you move a control, it immediately turns off the auto takeoff. I would also recommend toying around in Offline practice or a base in the back lines in an arena while you configure your controls.
There is also ways to fine tune your controls with scales, which details how to do in a sublink on the AH Trainer Corps webpage.
Don't be afraid to ask for help in the game, as most will be accommodating (ignore the alt f4 comments). It will also give you the opportunity to meet some of the community and potentially join a squadron. Hope this helps, see you up there.
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Hey Thanks, but I need to fly before I go live. I know I am a decent pilot, but I want to take off by myself. Hell, I have taken off of a carrier and landed on a carrier in IL2 many times. Cant understand why I am having so many issues. It must be the stick.... :D
Gonna give it a go again tonight. The control set up is a little confusing to me right now. I want to configure my stick with all the buttons too. Comms, trim, landing gear, lights and my beer refrigerator.
I feel so lost with all these settings right now. Is there some typical X52/Throttle configuration file I can download?
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Welcome aboard! with your big 24" (lol) thats what I got he,he, make sure to run the high resolution package!
Your gonna be on a learning curve just on mapping your contrller in (theres so much stuff) but in the end you will learn to love all the knobs and dials, there is actually nothing that you can't change to suite your need's! make sure that your controller is clibrated in window's and in the game! and even do the knob's and slide!
I've played IL2 for (not long) Aces High is more compition minded than graphix's! going thru a couple patch issue's right now that I know will be fixed! get a mic! read the forums, some of the things people do in this are unreal (experiance level <S>) welcome to the new (CRACK ROCK) lol, and I'm still a rookie after one year of flying!
Misfire out,
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Lots of good info here:
http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/ (http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/)
Specific to setting up controllers:
http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/controllers/controllers.htm (http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/controllers/controllers.htm)
Good luck, take your time, ask questions...I spent almost a month offline to get used to things before I went online.
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Welcome to Aces High. This is a game where you'll find your nitch, whatever it may be. Have fun! :cool:
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Great!!
Cant wait to get home and down load it. Thanks everyone for all the great answers.
See you in the skies
Hope you enjoy your stay! Im sure you will like this game as much as we all do. :salute