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Title: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Mcclusky on May 26, 2010, 08:14:08 AM
I installed the XFX HD5770 powered up and Nothing,,,No MOnitors, no keyboard,,computer was on but
no response..I put back the old x800 card and all ok...
I did check and the card needs 450W PS I only have a 300W..I'm going to install a new 450W PS
and see what happens..
If you know of this problem please advise....
AMD Athlon 64 AMD Athlon 64 AMD Athlon 64 2.2 GHz  2GB
PCI Express x16 x 1 • PCI x 3
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on May 26, 2010, 10:04:23 AM
I installed the XFX HD5770 powered up and Nothing,,,No MOnitors, no keyboard,,computer was on but
no response..I put back the old x800 card and all ok...
I did check and the card needs 450W PS I only have a 300W..I'm going to install a new 450W PS
and see what happens..
If you know of this problem please advise....
AMD Athlon 64 AMD Athlon 64 AMD Athlon 64 2.2 GHz  2GB
PCI Express x16 x 1 • PCI x 3

You probably need that bigger power supply. Also make sure you have your 6-pin pci-e power cable plugged in for the display card, it will remain blank unless you plug the power cord in. :)
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: CRYPTIC on May 26, 2010, 10:37:05 AM
If that's the min I would go higher and don't skimp on the power supply one of the most important parts of the comp if not the most important. Power is the start of many problems. Always research what you are buying ahead of time.
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Skuzzy on May 26, 2010, 10:42:14 AM
You will need a minimum of a 750W high quality power supply.
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Mcclusky on May 26, 2010, 10:54:06 AM
Thanks all...What are the Certified Power Supplies that AMD recommends?
I was running to best buy here and picking up a Antec 750W
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Skuzzy on May 26, 2010, 11:05:35 AM
Antec power supplies are not very good.  They used to be good supplies, but turned to junk a few years ago.  If you insist on getting Antec, be very careful about how they show the loads distributed over the rails.

They will typically show loads that total up to a much higher load than the power supply can handle as they use multiple rails and show the max for each rail.

For instance, they may show 50A for each 12V rail, but 50A is the total combined for all the 12V rails.  It is cheesy marketing at best.
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Mcclusky on May 26, 2010, 11:40:01 AM
Thanks,, Think I will look into another one...Just hoping that is the problem...I will post the results here..
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Spikes on May 26, 2010, 02:12:50 PM
Try an OCZ Modular 500W or 600W PSU. They work well.
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: guncrasher on May 26, 2010, 02:45:39 PM
order from newegg or tiger direct, you will get them in a couple of days and for the same price as best buy you can get a much better one.

semp
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Bronk on May 26, 2010, 03:49:26 PM
You will need a minimum of a 750W high quality power supply.
Color me confused... 700W ocz fatality no problem what so ever with my xfx 5770.
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Skuzzy on May 26, 2010, 04:18:41 PM
Depends on what else is in your system Bronk, you may be pushing the supply a little, or maybe not.  What is the efficiency of the supply?  Is the rating based on dissipated power or supplied power?
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Bronk on May 26, 2010, 04:42:28 PM
Depends on what else is in your system Bronk, you may be pushing the supply a little, or maybe not.  What is the efficiency of the supply?  Is the rating based on dissipated power or supplied power?
That may explain it... I run almost no extras and use a powerd usb for Track IR and x52. Efficiency is advertised at 82%, some reviews I've read say as high as 84%. They do not state if dissipated or supplied.
You've given me something to look up now. :headscratch:
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Skuzzy on May 26, 2010, 05:00:29 PM
What brand supply Bronk?  Model number?
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Bronk on May 26, 2010, 05:11:16 PM
OCZ fatality 700w Model#OCZ700FTY
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Mcclusky on May 26, 2010, 07:22:41 PM
I ordered the Corsair TX750W from tigerdirect
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3438609&CatId=2533
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Mcclusky on May 26, 2010, 07:24:57 PM
CRYPTIC ordered the same one....
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Skuzzy on May 27, 2010, 06:16:50 AM
The OCZ and Corsair power supplies are made by Seasonic.  They both rate them based on supplied power.

Corsair and Thermaltake sell the exact same power supplies.  So if you can get one cheaper over the other, go for it as the only difference is the color of the paint on the outside of the supply.
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Mcclusky on May 27, 2010, 07:40:45 AM
Hi mthank you all for the Info..I did get the new PS 750W.. I truly have to admit that the computer, i think, is better..The screens are brighter and I think the speed is better..A good investment...
HOWEVER, I heard from XFX and this is what they said!
This card requires a 6 pin poiwer connection that a 300W power supply will not have. We recommend a 400W at minimum and it must have the six pin PCIE power connection. Some motherboards require a BIOS update to work with the new PCIE 2.1 cards. The entire 5000 series line is PCIE 2.1. The problem that we have seen is that because many of these boards are older and the manufacturer of the motherboard had dropped support for them before ever updating to include support for these upcoming features. I am yet to see a single socket 754 motherboard work with a PCIE 2.1 card. You can check the motherboard manufacturer`s website for an update but I feel that it still will not work with this motherboard and would be severely bottlenecked by all of the other hardware that is in the computer. Thank you. Mark
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: TequilaChaser on May 27, 2010, 08:28:32 AM
I ordered the Corsair TX750W from tigerdirect
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3438609&CatId=2533

Hi mthank you all for the Info..I did get the new PS 750W.. I truly have to admit that the computer, i think, is better..The screens are brighter and I think the speed is better..A good investment...

so I take it that your HD5770 is working with your AMD Socket 754 Motherboard without any problems now regarding PCI-E backward compatibility

man, I have to say....... TigerDirect don't mess around in shipping /delivering orders do they  :bolt:
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Mcclusky on May 27, 2010, 09:11:17 AM
No, The Card still doesnt work. I installed the New PS from tiger,,
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Mcclusky on May 27, 2010, 09:41:18 AM
Just for HAha's I'm going to exchange the 5770 for the 5750 and sees what happens..Although I been having a hard
time from emachines on updating the bIOS...That is the recommended fix. I did read similar problems on web and they updated the
bios which fixed the problem...
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Bronk on May 27, 2010, 03:36:14 PM
The OCZ and Corsair power supplies are made by Seasonic.  They both rate them based on supplied power.

Corsair and Thermaltake sell the exact same power supplies.  So if you can get one cheaper over the other, go for it as the only difference is the color of the paint on the outside of the supply.
Question is it enough for the 5770?
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Spikes on May 27, 2010, 03:58:06 PM
I run two 5770s on my 600W OCZ PSU..along with a Core 2 Quad.
Title: Re: Problem HD5770 Need Help
Post by: Mcclusky on May 28, 2010, 07:57:55 AM
Hi Spikes..Thanks for the Input,,The PS is doing very well and I can see the difference..I'm currently using the XFX HD 4650. I will be getting a new system together..I already have the 5770 card and PS...lol...