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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Masherbrum on June 03, 2010, 12:57:25 PM
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might have taken a better turn. I have a feeling this kid is done like dinner.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/03/peru.murder.case/?hpt=T2 (http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/03/peru.murder.case/?hpt=T2)
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I would hope so.
The guy is a slimy weasel that deserves the worse that life has to offer.
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I would consider a combination between vietcong and apache treatments to be in order for him. The legal system set him free the last time, hopefully he doesn't get away this time.
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it's unfortunate that it looks like it may have taken another death to show Aruba what all of us already knew. I was always appalled by his absolute indifference toward the Holloway family with their case....but this time it almost seems like he wanted to be caught.
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it's unfortunate that it looks like it may have taken another death to show Aruba what all of us already knew. I was always appalled by his absolute indifference toward the Holloway family with their case....but this time it almost seems like he wanted to be caught.
Kinda looks that way doesnt it.
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In a perfect world they would turn him over to the girls' fathers.
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He wont get off easy in Peru. Hes a dead man for sure.
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I felt bad for the mother she tried so desperately to find justice for her daughter.
I remember when people started protesting against her because they thought she was being unreasonable..
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I felt bad for the mother she tried so desperately to find justice for her daughter.
I remember when people started protesting against her because they thought she was being unreasonable..
Yep.
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He's also been indicted in Alabama for trying to extort $250K from the Holloway family in return for the location of her body.
The right Alabama rednecks could have a good old time with him.
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The weird thing is that this death took place exactly 5 years to the day as the Natalie Holloway disappearance.
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The weird thing is that this death took place exactly 5 years to the day as the Natalie Holloway disappearance.
As a squad member of ours said a serial killer in his early years.
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As a squad member of ours said a serial killer in his early years.
Yeah it's like he wanted to celebrate the day with another death.
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Well, hopefully he gets whats coming to him now. I families of both daughters are in my prayers. :salute :pray
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The weird thing is that this death took place exactly 5 years to the day as the Natalie Holloway disappearance.
Begining of summer, lots of young drunk girls are about. Not surprising to me, alright 5 yrs to the maybe bit strange.
Anyways hope both familys find closure.
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It would be easy to assume there were two killings 5 years to the day apart. That assumes that he got caught the only two times he killed. I'm not sure I'd bet on that.
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"closure"...I dunno. I don't think that's possible. it certainly wouldn't be for me. it's more like "opener" if it happened to me...(you walked into my world when you messed with my kid.......welcome to my world now) because I would launch a campaign to the court to allow him to serve time and avoid the death penalty. then over the years...I'd do whatever I had to do to get a few gang contacts "inside"...with cash most likely...and I'd have them shank that punk in his eyeballs every 6 months for the rest of his life...among other things.
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I would hope so.
The guy is a slimy weasel that deserves the worse that life has to offer.
Hopefuly now his detached and wealthy parents will accept their son is the ultimate pshycotic spoiled brat that thinks he can get away with anything - even murder... nah they'll probabley waste a few million more in legal fees and buying political favor/influence from their government.
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Hopefuly now his detached and wealthy parents will accept their son is the ultimate pshycotic spoiled brat that thinks he can get away with anything - even murder... nah they'll probabley waste a few million more in legal fees and buying political favor/influence from their government.
His attorney dad died not so long back. No one to help him now.
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Someone might want to find out where he was on the day in question in the in-between years.
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I hate to be the downer here, but let me pose a serious question.
With hundreds of kidnappings and disappearances of minors every year in the US; Why is it that Natalie Holloway get's years of national media attention, and the rest never even get mentioned outside of local media if at all?
I think I know the answer. But I'm curious what others think.
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I think I know the answer. But I'm curious what others think.
Speak up and say it.
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Speak up and say it.
Someone else besides me smelled the bait. <<S>> Virgil
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I don't know about bait, but if you have something to say, then man up and say it.
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Unless hes put in protective custody in jail its going to be very miserable for him to say the least. I hope he is put right in with the general population. Peru has a different legal system as I was watching the news. He could be held indefintely pending trial,while there is no time tables for court, etc, like in Aruba.
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Speak up and say it.
Ok... In short I think it's the "shock" factor, and media sensationalism for ratings.
It seems to me that the national media only covers stories like this when it is nice kids from affluent families. It's all about latching onto a story that will grab peoples attention for the media, so that they can milk that story for as long as possible. It's more shocking when stuff like this happens to affluent families, and so the media runs with it for months. Same kind of deal with Jon Bennet Ramsey, she wasn't the only little girl to be killed, and also not the only one where her parents where suspects, but she was a beauty pageant contestant from a rich family in a rich neighborhood, so she gets more attention.
I'm sure there have been many other teenagers go missing under suspicious circumstances since Holloway. Has anybody heard about them on the national news?? A few maybe, but not to the same extent. How many kidnappings have there been over the past few years in Arizona?? But they don't get national attention because it's mostly poor (often illegal) immigrant girls that are getting kidnapped for human trade, it's just not as shocking or dramatic as a pretty teenage girl from an affluent family disappearing in Aruba, but still it's just as tragic.
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The media (t.v. tabloid, etc.) is a business and they are always looking for what makes the best story pure and simple.
In this case it may have helped stop a serial killer before he killed many more.
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He's also been indicted in Alabama for trying to extort $250K from the Holloway family in return for the location of her body.
The right Alabama rednecks could have a good old time with him.
I know the mother and father personally and both have said that they knew he would screw up again...they just didn't think it would take this long.
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I know the mother and father personally and both have said that they knew he would screw up again...they just didn't think it would take this long.
Unbeknown-st to Saggs, most have forgotten about this case. I posted it for the very reason you mentioned Reschke. He screwed up again. I hope some measure of closure is a result of this.
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Ok... In short I think it's the "shock" factor, and media sensationalism for ratings.
It seems to me that the national media only covers stories like this
I read more..and followed more of the case.......in the smaller aruban papers...so there goes your theory...
you can't play the "msm card" these days pal.....not with the advent if the internet. move past the "national news" as you call it..the rest of the world already has
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I also know for a fact that if that SOB had stepped foot inside the US much less the state of Alabama that they would have had a hard time locating the body for any forensic testing to make sure that someone didn't kill him in a less than humane way.
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I hate to be the downer here, but let me pose a serious question.
With hundreds of kidnappings and disappearances of minors every year in the US; Why is it that Natalie Holloway get's years of national media attention, and the rest never even get mentioned outside of local media if at all?
I think I know the answer. But I'm curious what others think.
Foreign people involved. We are better than them!
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Can't wait to read about the judge who let him off even though they had him confessing on film..... getting his just deserts. What scum. Good reason not to go to aruba.
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Can't wait to read about the judge who let him off even though they had him confessing on film..... getting his just deserts. What scum. Good reason not to go to aruba.
Well, don't ever go Chicago either because the number of cases of guys committing murder while on parole is way bigger. I know, our sit does not stink. Lets just bomb Aruba too :lol
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Death by acid pool would be too good for him. There is no equal justice possible if it is your family member. Modern legal systems are often just a musical instrument waiting to be played.
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I'm not familiar with Peru's penal system, but I do know that most of South America's prisons can be brutal. Of course they could never be brutal enough for this slimy piece of doo.
Hopefully with his confession justice will be swift and he will be starting his new crummy life soon. :aok
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I'm not familiar with Peru's penal system, but I do know that most of South America's prisons can be brutal. Of course they could never be brutal enough for this slimy piece of doo.
Hopefully with his confession justice will be swift and he will be starting his new crummy life soon. :aok
I hope they get the truth on what he did to Natalie Holloway.
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Beth Holloway (twitty) is really being slammed by this tragedy all over again.....and from what I'm reading....it's really tearing her apart...and it's not even her fault.
apparently...... Van Der Sloot was financially able to go to south america......... specifically because of the 15K she sent him...via the FBI..who was in the middle of a sting operation with Van Der Sloot...as they her do it, to set him up...with the hopes of extraditing him the the US.
beyond that...once they had all the evidence they needed to arrest him..the FBI sat on it too long. Aruba's attorney gen even phoned the FBI (they were in on it too) to inform them that he was taking flight to chile.
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Beth Holloway (twitty) is really being slammed by this tragedy all over again.....and from what I'm reading....it's really tearing her apart...and it's not even her fault.
apparently...... Van Der Sloot was financially able to go to south america......... specifically because of the 15K she sent him...via the FBI..who was in the middle of a sting operation with Van Der Sloot...as they her do it, to set him up...with the hopes of extraditing him the the US.
beyond that...once they had all the evidence they needed to arrest him..the FBI sat on it too long. Aruba's attorney gen even phoned the FBI (they were in on it too) to inform them that he was taking flight to chile.
Yea, that plan backfire but hopefully now they may get him now that he is caught. Just wait.
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Last I heard I think we're in the works of trying to get him extradited into the good ol' US-of-A after he gets done with his tour of various legal systems of South American countries.
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Last I heard I think we're in the works of trying to get him extradited into the good ol' US-of-A after he gets done with his tour of various legal systems of South American countries.
Oh, i am sure that FBI going to do something to get theur hands on him. Maybe it is time that he pleads a deal with them by telling what really happen to Natalie.
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I hope he stays in Chili's worst jails for the rest of his life.
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I second that notion- but on one condition. He has to get the weekends off from there-
AT THE VICTIM'S DAD'S HOUSE! (cage included!)
-Penguin
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Last I heard I think we're in the works of trying to get him extradited into the good ol' US-of-A after he gets done with his tour of various legal systems of South American countries.
How does this work? He committed murder in Chili and he is under suspicion/investigation of committing murder in Aruba. He has not committed any crimes in the USA. How does extradition law works? Anyone?
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How does this work? He committed murder in Chili and he is under suspicion/investigation of committing murder in Aruba. He has not committed any crimes in the USA. How does extradition law works? Anyone?
He attempted to extort $250K from Beth Twitty in exchange for telling her where her daughter's body was. She sent him the first $15K, under the supervision of the FBI. He signed for and accepted the money. He could easily be tried and convicted for extortion here. He can be extradited under U.S. law to stand trial for extortion. The only question is how the extradition treaty with Peru is working.
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He attempted to extort $250K from Beth Twitty in exchange for telling her where her daughter's body was. She sent him the first $15K, under the supervision of the FBI. He signed for and accepted the money. He could easily be tried and convicted for extortion here. He can be extradited under U.S. law to stand trial for extortion. The only question is how the extradition treaty with Peru is working.
Oh cool, I did not know that. I still think they will want to keep him there for murder trial though. Bigger punishment than extortion, no? I quess what I am saying is that we kind of want him to stay there. If he gets convicted of extortion he will be out in a few years if not months.
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I'm guessing Peru will consider their murder case trumps a US extortion case. I doubt he'll be on US soil any time soon. That said, its not beyond the realms of possibility that Peru releases him to the US after their legal system is done with him on condition he serves out his sentence in a US prison (assuming he's convicted this time).
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Oh cool, I did not know that. I still think they will want to keep him there for murder trial though. Bigger punishment than extortion, no? I quess what I am saying is that we kind of want him to stay there. If he gets convicted of extortion he will be out in a few years if not months.
Certainly the U.S. extortion charges and trial are secondary to the murder trial in Peru. The question remains, how swift and how severe is the justice in Peru. He confessed almost immediately to the murder in Peru. Of course, there was a ton of evidence. But you have to wonder if some leniency was offered in exchange for that confession, and if so, how much. I'd love to think that he'll get long term severe punishment in Peru, but I'm not betting the farm on it.
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I'd love to think that he'll get long term severe punishment in Peru, but I'm not betting the farm on it.
Why not? I am sure murder is elegal there also.
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Certainly the U.S. extortion charges and trial are secondary to the murder trial in Peru. The question remains, how swift and how severe is the justice in Peru. He confessed almost immediately to the murder in Peru. Of course, there was a ton of evidence. But you have to wonder if some leniency was offered in exchange for that confession, and if so, how much. I'd love to think that he'll get long term severe punishment in Peru, but I'm not betting the farm on it.
I'm guessing Peru has a few more tools to exact confessions than our guys have
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Why not? I am sure murder is elegal there also.
I'm sure it is illegal as well.
However, the accused has money, and access to more, and his mother is obviously willing to spend it on him, regardless of how bad he is. Money buys a lot of things, leniency is one of them. We'll just have to wait and see what sort of justice system Peru has.
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I'm sure it is illegal as well.
However, the accused has money, and access to more, and his mother is obviously willing to spend it on him, regardless of how bad he is. Money buys a lot of things, leniency is one of them. We'll just have to wait and see what sort of justice system Peru has.
In either case, getting him on an extortion charge would be the bast case scenario for him. Somehow I think jail there wont be as fun as it would be here.
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not only will they keep him in a chilean prison.....as they should......but I have no doubt...he will die in their prison system.
By Benjamin Witte
A flurry of prisoner deaths has brought renewed attention to a distressing yet often-ignored reality in Chile--that left behind in the country's "miracle" rush toward First World status is a troubled prison system that the Corte Suprema de Justicia (CSJ) calls "inhuman, degrading, and cruel."
In late April, fire broke out during a riot in Colina II, a large and typically overcrowded prison on the northern outskirts of Santiago. The blaze killed 10 inmates. Less than two weeks later, in the same facility, a fight between rival gangs left two more prisoners dead.
The deadly fire prompted an investigation by the CSJ, which subsequently released a report confirming what human rights groups have claimed for years--that Chile's prison system is bursting at the seams, more or less incapable of rehabilitating its inmates, and extremely dangerous. The author of the report, prosecutor Monica Maldonado, described the system as simply "inhumane, degrading, and cruel."
The most pressing problem is overcrowding. In the past decade, the prison population has spiked, up 70% to nearly 54,000. Chile now has the highest incarceration rate (318 per 100,000 residents) of any country in Latin America. Neighboring Argentina, in contrast, jails just half that proportion, according to the UN's Latin American Institute for the Prevention of Crime and the Treatment of Offenders (Instituto Latinoamericano de las Naciones Unidas para la Prevencion del Delito y el Tratamiento del Delincuente, ILANUD).
e country's jails have beds for just 31,000 people, meaning the system as a whole is overburdened by approximately 47%. In many cases, jails are operating at literally double their capacity. The Valparaíso prison currently houses 2,896 inmates, far in excess of its 1,200-person capacity, Maldonado reported. The Santiago Sur prison is supposed to hold 3,170 prisoners but instead has nearly 6,700 inmates.
"The overcrowding is made worse by the fact that inmates must often stay in their cells for 15 hours a day. Generally speaking, the cells lack basic hygienic services, adequate light, and ventilation," wrote Maldonado.
Maldonado's report also criticized the common practice of punishing inmates with solitary confinement, whereby prisoners are kept in dark, empty, sometimes toiletless cells for stints of up to 10 days.
"These people are kept away from daylight, in true dungeons," Congressman Gabriel Silber of the moderate Partido Democrata Cristiano (PDC) told NotiSur. "There's the issue of the inmates' human rights. But the question should also be asked, can we really talk about the eventual social reinsertion of these people? Because they're going to leave [prison] even more hate filled, more aggressive. In the end this just hurts Chilean society."
Chile's justice minister admits the jails are "overburdened" but denies Maldonado's claim that the system as a whole is in "crisis." Nevertheless, outgoing President Michelle Bachelet's administration agrees on the need for prison reform and, in June, convened a special public-private committee that is expected to issue a series of recommendations by the end of the year.
In the meantime, blood continues to spill in Chile's prisons. On Sept. 8, a 25-year-old man died in the Valparaíso prison after being stabbed in the chest by a fellow inmate. He is one of 49 convicts who have died in prison fights so far this year, two more than in all of 2008 and nearly double the number of deaths (26) in 2007, according to Chile's corrections department, Gendarmería.
Suicides are increasingly common as well. In late August, officials from a prison in Rancagua reported a group-suicide attempt involving five inmates who tried to hang themselves simultaneously in their solitary-confinement cells. One prisoner, 30-year-old Ruben Antonio Robles Valdivia, succeeded. Fifteen inmates killed themselves in 2009. Nine have done so this year.
"The conditions are horrible," said Francisca Werth, head of the Santiago-based think tank Fundacion Paz Ciudadana. "It's absolutely unacceptable that people who are deprived of their freedom should be deprived of their other human rights as well. There's the issue of hygiene and health. Plus think about the levels of violence and stress these people are living with. For them [jail time] is a matter of basic survival."
Analysts trace the recent spike in incarcerations to the Reforma Penal, an overhaul of Chile's antiquated "inquisitive" criminal-justice system, which introduced oral proceedings (previously cases were presented in written form) and went into effect gradually between 2000 and 2005. The Santiago metro region, by far the country's most populous area, was the last of Chile's 15 regions to apply the changes.
In 1999, the year before the Reforma was introduced, Chile's prison population was approximately 30,000. By 2003, it rose to 38,000. At the end of 2007, after the reforms reached Santiago, nearly 46,000 Chileans were imprisoned. The courts have jailed some 8,000 more people in just the past year and a half.
"Today we have a criminal-justice system that is much more efficient in its ability to investigate and punish. That's why you see this huge rise in the number of people deprived of their freedom," said Mauricio Duce Julio, a law professor at the Universidad Diego Portales. "The number of convictions has tripled. It's a structural change."
To address overcrowding and improve Chile's already well-documented infrastructure problems, former President Ricardo Lagos (2000-2006) followed a controversial trend already present in the US, France, and a handful of other countries and began outsourcing both construction and administration of new prisons to private contractors.
The first of the private jails--the same Rancagua prison where Robles Valdivia hung himself last month--opened its doors in 2005. The company that built it, Belasco S.A., is traded publicly on Chile's stock market. Five other privately run prisons followed suit. Together they now house approximately 18% of the country's prisoners.
Critics say prison privatization presents a moral conflict of interest as it gives both the companies that build and operate the jails and their shareholders an incentive to see more people locked up. Chile's experiment with the model has run into logistical problems as well. Some of the planned jails have been scrapped. Others went well over budget.
"The first ones had serious problems with design and execution. They took too long to build and cost more than expected," said Duce Julio. "There've been other problems as well, like a rise in suicides, which has been addressed by Diego Portales' [annual] human rights report and has to do with a model that stresses prisoner isolation."
Yet by most accounts, overall living and safety conditions are better in the new jails. Last year the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights (IACHR) sent a special rapporteur to inspect the Chilean prison system firsthand. The inspector, Florentin Melendez, found that the private jails "offer greater dignity" for inmates and their families.
"Overcrowding was not observed in the centers operating under concession, and there are adequate levels of nutrition and hygiene, internal security, appropriate separation of inmates by category, prevention of international violence, and prisons services that include medical attention and therapy," he wrote.
But even with the new, and already packed, prisons, Chile still has a major cell deficit. And, say observers, until the country can lower its spiking incarceration rate, any future facilities, whether public or private, will fill up just as quickly.
"We need to ask ourselves whether we want to keep sending people to jail," said Deputy Silver, who recently visited several of Chile's largest prisons. "We need to ask ourselves whether it's been effective in fighting crime." (Sources: )
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I'm sure it is illegal as well.
However, the accused has money, and access to more, and his mother is obviously willing to spend it on him, regardless of how bad he is. Money buys a lot of things, leniency is one of them. We'll just have to wait and see what sort of justice system Peru has.
The murdered girl's father has more money and far clout in Peru than the murdering toejamhead's mother. He's not going to be able to buy his way out of this one.
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As well as life in prison, I would like to see him waterboarded daily, maybe some of those things that "don't happen?" :noid :mad:
People like this don't belong in society. If he is released, I don't care how much money you are given, as a judge, it is your responsibility to uphold the law. Letting a man like this go with a lesser charge would be inhuman. Simply not enough words in Webster's to explain the hate I feel for this guy.
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The murdered girl's father has more money and far clout in Peru than the murdering toejamhead's mother. He's not going to be able to buy his way out of this one.
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This, he picked the wrong pretty young Peruvian girl to choke this time - her father is I think some national hero/sports figure/race car driver/community activist, I pray for quick justice now for his family and a Holloways.
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The murdered girl's father has more money and far clout in Peru than the murdering toejamhead's mother. He's not going to be able to buy his way out of this one.
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I hope you're right.
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not only will they keep him in a chilean prison.....as they should......but I have no doubt...he will die in their prison system.
Why in Chilean?
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Well, don't ever go Chicago either because the number of cases of guys committing murder while on parole is way bigger. I know, our sit does not stink. Lets just bomb Aruba too :lol
lol Nothing in chicago of any interest... why would anyone go there unless they had to.
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not only will they keep him in a chilean prison.....as they should......but I have no doubt...he will die in their prison system.
He's not in Chili he's in Peru. The crime was committed in Peru he will be tried in Peru and he will serve time in Peru.. As far as I have heard he hasn't even broken any laws in Chili.
Hopefully when, and if he gets out of prison in Peru he can come to the states and stand trial for the extortion and wire fraud charges.
And room with Bubba. His new name will be Ben Dover.
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lol Nothing in chicago of any interest... why would anyone go there unless they had to.
The aquarium, science museum, good food. I personally like Chi town.
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Anyone ever watch 'Locked Up Abroad'? Don't fancy those South American prisons much.
Actually, don't fancy prison anywhere much.
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. . . The right Alabama rednecks could have a good old time with him.
"You've got a purty mouth - I'm gonna make you squeal like a pig . . . " :D
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They showed the prison he'd be staying at if he's convicted and just being sent to that prison seems to be a death sentence. The prison was originally built to house captured and convicted Shining Path guerrillas and is considered to be Peru's "Super Max" prison. There are 25-30 prisoners to a room that is just barely large enough to accomodate their cots and there is a hole in the middle of the floor that serves as the communnal toilet. The first day the prison opened, the prisoners killed the warden. A couple of years ago, the Shining Path prisoners revolted and close to 300 people died. Prisoner on prisoner abuse is common, it's not uncommon to see prisoners being gang raped right in the open with guards not even trying to stop it or prisoners being beaten and killed. It's also way high up in the Andes where only the condors can hear you scream.
He's diddlyed.
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They showed the prison he'd be staying at if he's convicted and just being sent to that prison seems to be a death sentence. The prison was originally built to house captured and convicted Shining Path guerrillas and is considered to be Peru's "Super Max" prison. There are 25-30 prisoners to a room that is just barely large enough to accomodate their cots and there is a hole in the middle of the floor that serves as the communnal toilet. The first day the prison opened, the prisoners killed the warden. A couple of years ago, the Shining Path prisoners revolted and close to 300 people died. Prisoner on prisoner abuse is common, it's not uncommon to see prisoners being gang raped right in the open with guards not even trying to stop it or prisoners being beaten and killed. It's also way high up in the Andes where only the condors can hear you scream.
He's twittleed.
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I will give him 20 mins to last.
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Ahhhh, he will last longer than that. Every cell needs someone to please the rest of the roomies. His roomies won't be using any date rape drug either. :D
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I hope you're right.
Yeah, them foreigners could not possibly get this right. Bring him here on extortion charges so he can spent a couple of years in a hotel prison before he is out to do it again :uhoh
Our hero now has become Babba who is going to make him squeel like a big. Never mind what Babba is in i jail for. He is now our hero :aok
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Yeah, them foreigners could not possibly get this right. Bring him here on extortion charges so he can spent a couple of years in a hotel prison before he is out to do it again :uhoh
Our hero now has become Babba who is going to make him squeel like a big. Never mind what Babba is in i jail for. He is now our hero :aok
Too bad you aren't smart enough to get what I was saying.
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Actually, don't fancy prison anywhere much.
You sure? How about the dutch prisons:
(http://www.brabantsdagblad.nl/multimedia/archive/01318/Brussel_voor_sture_1318799b.jpg)
Its ridiculous we have prisons like that over here :uhoh
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You sure? How about the dutch prisons:
(http://www.brabantsdagblad.nl/multimedia/archive/01318/Brussel_voor_sture_1318799b.jpg)
Its ridiculous we have prisons like that over here :uhoh
Is the girl included?
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Too bad you aren't smart enough to get what I was saying.
I know exactly what you are saying and what this thread is about, so lets cut the BS? Cases like this one happen every day here but no one gives a rats arss. Wana tell me why this one is different?
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I know exactly what you are saying and what this thread is about, so lets cut the BS? Cases like this one happen every day here but no one gives a rats arss. Wana tell me why this one is different?
No, you don't. Assumption is foolish.
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It is official, He told Peru police that he knows where Natalie body is.
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I say that prisoners should be no longer given their human rights- they are here to be punished, and that is what will happen. Solitary confinement should be the standard, from day one. Food should be made disgusting, and provided only just enough to keep them alive. Once a month, to keep the population low- an all out, prison-wide free-for-all to the death should be had. Once half are dead, the rest are put back in their cells. The event should be recorded and broadcast on pay-per-view internet/TV.
We're sitting on top of a gold mine, these pigs shouldn't have gone astray from the law in the first place.
-Penguin
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I say that prisoners should be no longer given their human rights- they are here to be punished, and that is what will happen. Solitary confinement should be the standard, from day one. Food should be made disgusting, and provided only just enough to keep them alive. Once a month, to keep the population low- an all out, prison-wide free-for-all to the death should be had. Once half are dead, the rest are put back in their cells. The event should be recorded and broadcast on pay-per-view internet/TV.
We're sitting on top of a gold mine, these pigs shouldn't have gone astray from the law in the first place.
-Penguin
So all the pot smokers in jail should become violent criminals and be forced to kill or be killed?
Sounds dandy.
:rolleyes:
wrongway
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I say that prisoners should be no longer given their human rights- they are here to be punished, and that is what will happen. Solitary confinement should be the standard, from day one. Food should be made disgusting, and provided only just enough to keep them alive. Once a month, to keep the population low- an all out, prison-wide free-for-all to the death should be had. Once half are dead, the rest are put back in their cells. The event should be recorded and broadcast on pay-per-view internet/TV.
We're sitting on top of a gold mine, these pigs shouldn't have gone astray from the law in the first place.
-Penguin
No, we just need to do lab experiments on them.
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I say that prisoners should be no longer given their human rights- they are here to be punished, and that is what will happen. Solitary confinement should be the standard, from day one. Food should be made disgusting, and provided only just enough to keep them alive. Once a month, to keep the population low- an all out, prison-wide free-for-all to the death should be had. Once half are dead, the rest are put back in their cells. The event should be recorded and broadcast on pay-per-view internet/TV.
We're sitting on top of a gold mine, these pigs shouldn't have gone astray from the law in the first place.
-Penguin
Seriously? :huh
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I say that prisoners should be no longer given their human rights- they are here to be punished, and that is what will happen. Solitary confinement should be the standard, from day one. Food should be made disgusting, and provided only just enough to keep them alive. Once a month, to keep the population low- an all out, prison-wide free-for-all to the death should be had. Once half are dead, the rest are put back in their cells. The event should be recorded and broadcast on pay-per-view internet/TV.
We're sitting on top of a gold mine, these pigs shouldn't have gone astray from the law in the first place.
-Penguin
Yes, we should try to do things like the Romans, so we can accelerate our decline and be just like them. :rolleyes:
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I say that prisoners should be no longer given their human rights- they are here to be punished, and that is what will happen. Solitary confinement should be the standard, from day one. Food should be made disgusting, and provided only just enough to keep them alive. Once a month, to keep the population low- an all out, prison-wide free-for-all to the death should be had. Once half are dead, the rest are put back in their cells. The event should be recorded and broadcast on pay-per-view internet/TV.
We're sitting on top of a gold mine, these pigs shouldn't have gone astray from the law in the first place.
-Penguin
I'll bet you go on to write for a college newspaper.
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I say that prisoners should be no longer given their human rights- they are here to be punished, and that is what will happen. Solitary confinement should be the standard, from day one. Food should be made disgusting, and provided only just enough to keep them alive. Once a month, to keep the population low- an all out, prison-wide free-for-all to the death should be had. Once half are dead, the rest are put back in their cells. The event should be recorded and broadcast on pay-per-view internet/TV.
We're sitting on top of a gold mine, these pigs shouldn't have gone astray from the law in the first place.
-Penguin
I LIKE the way you think....I'm gonna be watching you...(http://www.movieactors.com/freezeframes510/BackToSchool215.jpeg)
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I say that prisoners should be no longer given their human rights- they are here to be punished, and that is what will happen. Solitary confinement should be the standard, from day one. Food should be made disgusting, and provided only just enough to keep them alive. Once a month, to keep the population low- an all out, prison-wide free-for-all to the death should be had. Once half are dead, the rest are put back in their cells. The event should be recorded and broadcast on pay-per-view internet/TV.
We're sitting on top of a gold mine, these pigs shouldn't have gone astray from the law in the first place.
-Penguin
:huh :rolleyes: :bolt:
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I say that prisoners should be no longer given their human rights- they are here to be punished, and that is what will happen. Solitary confinement should be the standard, from day one. Food should be made disgusting, and provided only just enough to keep them alive. Once a month, to keep the population low- an all out, prison-wide free-for-all to the death should be had. Once half are dead, the rest are put back in their cells. The event should be recorded and broadcast on pay-per-view internet/TV.
We're sitting on top of a gold mine, these pigs shouldn't have gone astray from the law in the first place.
-Penguin
I am surprised you wanted solitary confinement, wouldn't that take up to much room and cost to much? :rolleyes:
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I say that prisoners should be no longer given their human rights- they are here to be punished, and that is what will happen. Solitary confinement should be the standard, from day one. Food should be made disgusting, and provided only just enough to keep them alive. Once a month, to keep the population low- an all out, prison-wide free-for-all to the death should be had. Once half are dead, the rest are put back in their cells. The event should be recorded and broadcast on pay-per-view internet/TV.
We're sitting on top of a gold mine, these pigs shouldn't have gone astray from the law in the first place.
-Penguin
How very American... perhaps we could suspend the Constitution at the same time.
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I say that prisoners should be no longer given their human rights- they are here to be punished, and that is what will happen. Solitary confinement should be the standard, from day one. Food should be made disgusting, and provided only just enough to keep them alive. Once a month, to keep the population low- an all out, prison-wide free-for-all to the death should be had. Once half are dead, the rest are put back in their cells. The event should be recorded and broadcast on pay-per-view internet/TV.
We're sitting on top of a gold mine, these pigs shouldn't have gone astray from the law in the first place.
-Penguin
You get a special cell, then, ah?
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Lets get back on track here. He lied to Natalie mom on where Natalie body was. This guy is sick. He is enjoying having that control of other peoples feels. Somebody going to get something out of him.
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Any link to the story about where her body is ?
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From what I have been told by a customer in Peru who has helped me out in learning some stuff about Peru and how they might proceed with this case. Peru does not have a death penalty or life imprisonment...however most criminals like this jack off will "never see the outside of the prison again with living eyes"...at least that is how he said it to me on the phone yesterday.
If he somehow evades prosecution in Peru then he will be extradited to the USA; specifically to Birmingham, AL; for arraignment and investigation into other crimes that he might have committed against Natalee Holloway of which I believe there is no statute of limitations on. Upon conviction he would likely end up in Kilby or JO Davis Prison. Both are not good places to go to prison in the state of Alabama.
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Any link to the story about where her body is ?
There is no real story about it. Aruba officials went to the location he gave Beth Twitty. The body was not there, and could not possibly have been, under the circumstances.
There is no real story about what he told officials in Peru. Yet.
What passes for either "story" can be found in various short paragraphs in various articles.
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There is no real story about it. Aruba officials went to the location he gave Beth Twitty. The body was not there, and could not possibly have been, under the circumstances.
There is no real story about what he told officials in Peru. Yet.
What passes for either "story" can be found in various short paragraphs in various articles.
He told Beth where Natalie body was after he got some of the money. The location, where Van der Sloot dad supposed buried, was under a house. Aruba looked over records of home being built around the time and there was no match. Van der then confess to lie about the location. this guy is sick and enjoys playing with other people emotions.