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Title: Ejection seats
Post by: stealth on June 06, 2010, 03:28:05 AM
The ejection seat was needed back in late WW2,when the Germans knew they needed something besides just jumping out the plane. For the 262s (as I'm aware of so far) had ejection seats and some fast versions of the 109,had the ejection seat. Would it be possible to have them. Now we don't have a reason for them,but this game does need to feel like it's real. People go all the way to have 3 screens,foot petals worth $100 of dollars. Maybe also be possible to have cockpits that open up. However I would see problems with bugs like cockpit wouldn't close and people would die more easily when they forgot to close the cockpit possibly. It would be an interesting edition to the game though. :)
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: Ghosth on June 06, 2010, 07:55:05 AM
"Now we don't have a reason for them,but this game does need to feel like it's real."

That pretty much says it all right there.
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: Lusche on June 06, 2010, 08:07:12 AM
For the 262s (as I'm aware of so far) had ejection seats and some fast versions of the 109,had the ejection seat.

Wrong on both.

Planes in serial production equipped with ejection seats: He 219, Do 335 (never operational), Ar 234, He 162.
There are a few sites claiming the 262 was the first ejection seat equipped plane, but it was not - the similar twin jet fighter He 280 was (first usage in January 1943). The first operational plane with a ejection seat was the HE 219. The 262's in serial production did not have ejection seats.
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: fbWldcat on June 06, 2010, 08:08:04 AM
There are more important things, adding planes, fixing bugs and improving what is already here. I think it would just cause too many problems, too many bugs.

-1 new(er) thinking though, least it isn't a B-29 thread  :cheers:
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: gyrene81 on June 06, 2010, 09:39:36 AM
You have ejection seats already. Hit whatever key you have assigned to the bail out command 3 times, instant ejection even in a fresh plane. If you want some added immersion, stand up then hit the bail out key.
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: whipster22 on June 06, 2010, 09:44:04 AM
fail
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: thndregg on June 06, 2010, 09:48:34 AM
The ejection seat was needed back in late WW2,when the Germans knew they needed something besides just jumping out the plane. For the 262s (as I'm aware of so far) had ejection seats and some fast versions of the 109,had the ejection seat. Would it be possible to have them. Now we don't have a reason for them,but this game does need to feel like it's real. People go all the way to have 3 screens,foot petals worth $100 of dollars. Maybe also be possible to have cockpits that open up. However I would see problems with bugs like cockpit wouldn't close and people would die more easily when they forgot to close the cockpit possibly. It would be an interesting edition to the game though. :)

I suggest you read books on WW2 aircraft more.
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: Masherbrum on June 06, 2010, 10:01:26 AM
The ejection seat was needed back in late WW2,when the Germans knew they needed something besides just jumping out the plane. For the 262s (as I'm aware of so far) had ejection seats and some fast versions of the 109,had the ejection seat. Would it be possible to have them. Now we don't have a reason for them,but this game does need to feel like it's real. People go all the way to have 3 screens,foot petals worth $100 of dollars. Maybe also be possible to have cockpits that open up. However I would see problems with bugs like cockpit wouldn't close and people would die more easily when they forgot to close the cockpit possibly. It would be an interesting edition to the game though. :)

....and you wondered why for the 5 hours I was Rook, you were squelched?   
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: Rino on June 06, 2010, 10:51:33 AM
Wrong on both.

Planes in serial production equipped with ejection seats: He 219, Do 335 (never operational), Ar 234, He 162.
There are a few sites claiming the 262 was the first ejection seat equipped plane, but it was not - the similar twin jet fighter He 280 was (first usage in January 1943). The first operational plane with a ejection seat was the HE 219. The 262's in serial production did not have ejection seats.

     Don't forget the SAAB J21...egress system designed by Bofors  :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_21 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_21)

(http://www.ne.jp/asahi/airplane/museum/cl-pln10/2003cl/images/SAAB-J21A.jpg)

Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: Rino on June 06, 2010, 10:53:47 AM
You have ejection seats already. Hit whatever key you have assigned to the bail out command 3 times, instant ejection even in a fresh plane. If you want some added immersion, stand up then hit the bail out key.

       You might want to run into a low table very fast once in a while to simulate hitting the horizontal stab  :lol
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: Masherbrum on June 06, 2010, 10:56:07 AM
       You might want to run into a low table very fast once in a while to simulate hitting the horizontal stab  :lol

 :rofl
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: gyrene81 on June 06, 2010, 11:01:11 AM
You might want to run into a low table very fast once in a while to simulate hitting the horizontal stab  :lol
You coming over to clean the coffee off my monitor and keyboard now?  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: fbWldcat on June 06, 2010, 11:03:06 AM
     Don't forget the SAAB J21...egress system designed by Bofors  :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_21 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_21)

(http://www.ne.jp/asahi/airplane/museum/cl-pln10/2003cl/images/SAAB-J21A.jpg)



Well, you wouldn't be able to jump out of that thing unless you wanted the crap to hit the fan  :uhoh :noid
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: stealth on June 06, 2010, 10:37:42 PM
Thank you,yes you have mistaken a 12year old. Just an idea that my squad had voted on that they would like that's all but 4. They wanted this I agreed. fbWldcat if you had read more closely,I have already mentioned this is just an idea there might be bugs and complaints about this as well but more or less this is a request and this is a forums for request. Thank you Lusche I never knew any of that. :salute All
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: ImADot on June 06, 2010, 11:20:50 PM
For the life of me I can't figure out how the addition of an ejection seat, in the few aircraft that apparently might have had them, will make this game any more real than bailing out as it works today.  And what bugs would there be?  Hitting enter 3 times and NOT bailing because your ejection seat malfunctioned?  Or perhaps just as you're about to squirt some lead at that con 300 off your nose, after a hard-fought dogfight to get him there, your ejection seat malfuctions and you're now hanging from your chute instead?
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: phatzo on June 06, 2010, 11:52:14 PM
you can come and play AHII at my place but outside only.
(http://zedomax.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/b52-ejector-seat-office-chair.jpg)
or you could try this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLWVAidsXsU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e5cHhCEuuI&feature=related
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: Plazus on June 07, 2010, 12:22:23 AM
You have ejection seats already. Hit whatever key you have assigned to the bail out command 3 times, instant ejection even in a fresh plane. If you want some added immersion, stand up then hit the bail out key.

I lol'ed!!!  :rofl
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: uptown on June 07, 2010, 12:46:00 AM
 :rolleyes: Where do they come up with this stuff?
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 07, 2010, 12:47:14 AM
:rolleyes: Where do they come up with this stuff?

Cable TV.


(I was gonna say comic books, but I bet they've never seen one.)


wrongway
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: L0nGb0w on June 07, 2010, 02:10:07 AM
You have ejection seats already. Hit whatever key you have assigned to the bail out command 3 times, instant ejection even in a fresh plane. If you want some added immersion, stand up then hit the bail out key.

 :rofl :rofl :x
idk why but I actually laughed out loud
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: fbWldcat on June 07, 2010, 06:07:33 AM
Thank you,yes you have mistaken a 12year old. Just an idea that my squad had voted on that they would like that's all but 4. They wanted this I agreed. fbWldcat if you had read more closely,I have already mentioned this is just an idea there might be bugs and complaints about this as well but more or less this is a request and this is a forums for request. Thank you Lusche I never knew any of that. :salute All

I was just saying, it sounded like you actually wanted an animation for when you jumped out, which could cause bugs. I didn't shoot down your idea, I just said that I think there are more important things to work on right now (patches, bugs, planeset, etc). I'm all for new ideas but not when there are more important things to deal with.
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: stealth on June 07, 2010, 06:11:21 AM
I was just saying, it sounded like you actually wanted an animation for when you jumped out, which could cause bugs. I didn't shoot down your idea, I just said that I think there are more important things to work on right now (patches, bugs, planeset, etc). I'm all for new ideas but not when there are more important things to deal with.
Yes,you're right it could cause bugs there are more important things then useless ejection seats. Just an idea.
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: fbWldcat on June 07, 2010, 06:12:49 AM
Yes,you're right it could cause bugs there are more important things then useless ejection seats. Just an idea.

And that is what this forum is for.
+1 for original thinking.
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: lyric1 on June 07, 2010, 04:31:00 PM
For the life of me I can't figure out how the addition of an ejection seat, in the few aircraft that apparently might have had them, will make this game any more real than bailing out as it works today.  And what bugs would there be?  Hitting enter 3 times and NOT bailing because your ejection seat malfunctioned?  Or perhaps just as you're about to squirt some lead at that con 300 off your nose, after a hard-fought dogfight to get him there, your ejection seat malfuctions and you're now hanging from your chute instead?
He is 12 years old. Think of all the silly stuff kids think of at that age. Also just the oh that's cool factor from a 12 year old mind. Let him slide if nothing else he will learn stuff about these things in game & on the BBS that he will never be taught at school.
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: ImADot on June 07, 2010, 07:35:43 PM
Sorry if you thought I was being mean; not my intent.  I was just offering up my opinion and a couple of random "bugs" to add to the idea.  Still can't see how an ejector seat would act any different than how we already bail out.  If anything, when we hit enter three times, it should take a 15-20 seconds to leave the plane to simulate opening the canopy and trying to unhook your belts and climb out.  Then, for the ejector seat models, they would bail just like we all do today.
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: stealth on June 08, 2010, 07:06:41 AM
Really now it's just an idea after all. What's the big problem with having an ejection seat. Besides a couple people saying we don't need it,I think it's a fancy idea. Why not,well we don't need it and it's unneeded isn't enough of an answer now is it.
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 08, 2010, 02:23:49 PM
Really now it's just an idea after all. What's the big problem with having an ejection seat. Besides a couple people saying we don't need it,I think it's a fancy idea. Why not,well we don't need it and it's unneeded isn't enough of an answer now is it.

How about, "the aircraft in question was not equipped with an ejector seat"?

Good enough?


wrongway
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: Plawranc on June 08, 2010, 10:57:33 PM
You have ejection seats already. Hit whatever key you have assigned to the bail out command 3 times, instant ejection even in a fresh plane. If you want some added immersion, stand up then hit the bail out key.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: Puck on June 09, 2010, 10:03:46 AM
Already got them.  Ever had ANY trouble getting out of an aircraft, no matter what flight profile?  That's an ejection seat, pure and simple.  The performance curve is a bit unusual (works zero-zero, but has a dead zone after that) but so is Dale so it all fits together nicely.


"If it says Pratt & Whitney on the engines it better say Martin-Baker on the seats"
-Joe 'HOSER' Satrapa

I'm quite content to say I'm not a candidate for the Martin-Baker fan club...would have been an interesting ride, though.
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: Chilli on June 09, 2010, 07:39:30 PM
Oh nevermind,  I thought he said election seats.  Was pretty sure there was one open in NC.
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: Plazus on June 09, 2010, 09:44:04 PM
The ejection seat was needed back in late WW2,when the Germans knew they needed something besides just jumping out the plane. For the 262s (as I'm aware of so far) had ejection seats and some fast versions of the 109,had the ejection seat. Would it be possible to have them. Now we don't have a reason for them,but this game does need to feel like it's real. People go all the way to have 3 screens,foot petals worth $100 of dollars. Maybe also be possible to have cockpits that open up. However I would see problems with bugs like cockpit wouldn't close and people would die more easily when they forgot to close the cockpit possibly. It would be an interesting edition to the game though. :)

I have an idea. Why dont your parents buy you a real ejection seat in place of your current computer chair. That way the next time you hit enter three times, the ejection seat activates and shoots you straight up?  :D
Title: Re: Ejection seats
Post by: stealth on June 09, 2010, 11:20:47 PM
I have an idea. Why dont your parents buy you a real ejection seat in place of your current computer chair. That way the next time you hit enter three times, the ejection seat activates and shoots you straight up?  :D
Whatever you say Daddy.