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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: ToeTag on June 08, 2010, 07:57:23 PM
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Its has been asked for since 1999....... :O
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this feels like me and my M-18 or waystin's Yak
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Its has been asked for since 1999....... :O
You mean the Ju-87 "Stuka"? I want that to be added for the longest time! :aok
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Wait, are you saying that the JU87 is a stuka?!?!? carp, why was i not told that?
Looking at AH "D", was there anything elas different from it to the "G" other than the "G" armed with 30 mm (1.18 in) cannon?
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Actually it was packing 37mm cannons with AP ammunition. I say bring it on, even if it barely did have any ammo.
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Should be an easy varient to build. So yeah, sure, bring it.
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+1
I'd love to see more 87's flying around. They're fun to kill. :t
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I'd love to see more 87's flying around. They're fun to kill. :t
Someday..... All the Ju-87s, I-16s, P-40s, A6M2s, D3A1s, Brewsters..... and sheep.... :noid Will rise up, and take sweet vengeance on the haters.... someday soon..... :noid
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Someday..... All the Ju-87s, I-16s, P-40s, A6M2s, D3A1s, Brewsters..... and sheep.... :noid Will rise up, and take sweet vengeance on the haters.... someday soon..... :noid
5bs too :furious
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Wasn't the only difference wing span?
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5bs too :furious
No, the 5b can hold its own... the A6m2?.... I have a hard time keeping one alive :D Fun as hell to fly though
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Should be an easy varient to build. So yeah, sure, bring it.
It would only require an additional ordnance package of the 37mm Flak 18 gun pods for the D-3 to make it into a G-1, no time would be needed to be spent on updating the Stuka plane model.
ack-ack
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No, the 5b can hold its own... the A6m2?.... I have a hard time keeping one alive :D Fun as hell to fly though
few tours back take a look at my a6m2 stats :aok easy to do when you're smart
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Looking at AH "D", was there anything elas different from it to the "G" other than the "G" armed with 30 mm (1.18 in) cannon?
The D-3 and the G-1 were the same exact plane, as you noted, only difference was the 37mm Flak 18 gun pods on the G-1.
ack-ack
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Actually it was packing 37mm cannons with AP ammunition. I say bring it on, even if it barely did have any ammo.
Ah, thx for the correction. yes the 37mm. so we really do not need to add the D-3 but the 37 mm gun.
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Ah, thx for the correction. yes the 37mm. so we really do not need to add the D-3 but the 37 mm gun.
No, we wouldn't need to add the D-3 because it's already in game.
ack-ack
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few tours back take a look at my a6m2 stats :aok easy to do when you're smart
You insult my intelligence
Okay, I love flying the Stuka and a model with vamped up guns would be amazing, I would love to see it happen... soon, preferrably :noid
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Someday..... All the Ju-87s, I-16s, P-40s, A6M2s, D3A1s, Brewsters..... and sheep.... :noid Will rise up, and take sweet vengeance on the haters.... someday soon..... :noid
Done. They already have, considering I've killed a spit XIV in a P-40E.
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No, we wouldn't need to add the D-3 because it's already in game.
ack-ack
Oppps, I meant "G".
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to everyone who said we just need the gun package WE :salute YOU. Why is it so freaking hard to add a 37mm option in the freaking hanger... :x
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to everyone who said we just need the gun package WE :salute YOU. Why is it so freaking hard to add a 37mm option in the freaking hanger... :x
Ask HiTech that question. I am sure he will give you a positive answer.
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Done. They already have, considering I've killed a spit XIV in a P-40E.
I killed a tempest, 262, ki-84 and spitXVI in an SBD in the same sortie....and landed em:)
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I killed a tempest, 262, ki-84 and spitXVI in an SBD in the same sortie....and landed em:)
George H.W. Bush salutes you :salute
wtfg :cheers:
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You insult my intelligence
Okay, I love flying the Stuka and a model with vamped up guns would be amazing, I would love to see it happen... soon, preferrably :noid
notice how we manage to get private conversations into other people's threads sometimes wldcat? :lol
Done. They already have, considering I've killed a spit XIV in a P-40E.
yeah and i smoked up a 262 in my zero :rolleyes:
I killed a tempest, 262, ki-84 and spitXVI in an SBD in the same sortie....and landed em:)
how do i not believe this but the guy below me does? :headscratch: :D
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IIRC, aren't the dive brakes missing from the G model?
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IIRC, aren't the dive brakes missing from the G model?
Rgr, that's correct Pyro for both the G-1 and G-2.
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I've got the film clip somewhere, but looking back at stats I'm curious. Tour 106/107 was last time I was flying it a lot in the LWA. Was 48/49 during 106 and 46/35 in 107. Didn't bother going thru all the stats but only 262 is a death not a kill in that time frame...I know i've got the clip around but now i'm curious of when/where myself.
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IIRC, aren't the dive brakes missing from the G model?
The dive brakes don't work well on the D-3 now anyway. Something about diving 5k with an 1800kg bomb strapped to the bottom of the plane makes the dive brakes worthless. :lol I generally just trim the peepee out of it, kill my speed to a nose up stall, tip it nose down and let'er rip.
How difficult would it be to add the gun pods in the hangar as a separate loadout that doesn't allow any other additions and have the flight characteristics automatically adjust to the the correct properties? Or would it just be easier to build a whole new model off the existing Stuka?
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IIRC, aren't the dive brakes missing from the G model?
I believe the D-3 was the last Stuka model to have the dive brakes.
ack-ack
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I believe the D-3 was the last Stuka model to have the dive brakes.
We've had the coversation before and yes, D-5 has them aswell. :)
(http://leosk.com/images/ju-87.jpg)
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We've had the coversation before and yes, D-5 has them aswell. :)
(http://leosk.com/images/ju-87.jpg)
Don't recall we've ever had a conversation before on this. Anyway, it seems we're both right. The initial production run of the D-5 did retain the dive brakes but later as the Stuka's role changed and was used almost exclusively in the anti-tank/close ground support role, the dive brakes weren't on the later production runs.
So back to Pyro's initial question about the G-1 having dive brakes. It is my understanding that only the factory produced G-1s didn't have the dive brakes but the D-3s that were converted and redesignated as G-1s still retained the dive brakes as with the D-3s that received the 37mm Flak 18 cannons but weren't redesignated. Would this mean that the D-5s that were converted to G-2s on the field would have retained the dive brakes as well?
ack-ack
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Anecdotal only but Rudel mentioned in his book that you couldn't really dive with G model due to stress and they usually flew very near the ground anyway. I guess that shooting through top of the tank was not considered necessary due to accuracy and penetration capability of their 37mms. IIRC the accuracy of top pilots was about a foot diameter so it was pretty accurate.
Maybe the cannon attachment points could not handle the stress from pulling out of dive or diving too fast would wrench the guns affecting accuracy? Due to increased drag I'd imagine the G probably did not have a phenomenal dive speed either...
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Yeah I guess you could say they flew close to the ground.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU6OK1zSxKg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU6OK1zSxKg)
Still a high angle of attack, check out the convergence.
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If the AH gods grant us with this then I want the sound effects from that film..... :devil
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Yeah I guess you could say they flew close to the ground.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU6OK1zSxKg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU6OK1zSxKg)
Still a high angle of attack, check out the convergence.
Another Nazi propaganda film featuring Hans Rudel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLDhZH0-aDU&feature=related
Looking at the blasts from the impacting 37mm rounds sure makes it look like it's from a far bigger gun, looks like the 75mm impact blasts from the B-25H in game.
ack-ack
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If the AH gods grant us with this then I want the sound effects from that film..... :devil
Already got em on standby. :aok
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It would only require an additional ordnance package of the 37mm Flak 18 gun pods for the D-3 to make it into a G-1, no time would be needed to be spent on updating the Stuka plane model.
ack-ack
Wouldn't the greatly increased drag of the gun pods have to be modeled...?
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Wouldn't the greatly increased drag of the gun pods have to be modeled...?
Wasn't as big of an effect as you're thinking. One reference Ack Ack put up showed about a 10mph difference in level flight.
Looking at the blasts from the impacting 37mm rounds sure makes it look like it's from a far bigger gun, looks like the 75mm impact blasts from the B-25H in game.
ack-ack
The blasts for 37mm's in AH are about as big as those scenes if you see them close up.
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+1
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+1 :aok
perdweeb