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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: JunkyII on June 10, 2010, 11:33:19 AM
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The FW190F8 I think is the most overlooked plane in the game. The 12 rockets can deack a base in 2 passes and you can still have a 500KG bomb and tons of ammo left. Since it is a 190 its a great diver and is narrow with lots of extra armor making it hard to hit and beat up by ack.
What bird do you fly that you think it gets overlooked by the rest of the community?
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190s are easy mode :D
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190s are easy mode :D
UN-like Pee 51's, I suppose? :devil
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P40E :D
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The Hurri 1. :aok
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff186/obie303/Krustys71squadskin.jpg)
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dam clicked on this expecting babes :noid
A20 for me, cobia explains what it can do in a fight, and enough bombs to kill a GV army. Tough as nuts and the 8 50's a treat.
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B-25 for me, but the A-20's one of those planes I've always wanted to learn how to fly well.
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UN-like Pee 51's, I suppose? :devil
or the silly 109s. :D
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The Hurri 1. :aok
Man I flew one of those in a furball the other night, super fun little bird. If you get really close it can take a wing right off. I had a blast flying it though.
Awfully slow though.
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What bird do you fly that you think it gets overlooked by the rest of the community?
The Yak9U and the 9T. The common response from people regarding this plane is. "Not enough ammo". I like the limited ammo in regards to training myself to be more accurate with my shots, using ammunition more conservatively. The other response is "This thing has no WEP". It doesn't need it. It's a fast, agile buggar of a plane. Fun to fly.
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B-25 for me, but the A-20's one of those planes I've always wanted to learn how to fly well.
you and youre stupid fighter mode B25s :furious kidding man kidding :aok Basically the A20 is the very easymode B25 when dogfighting. I've killed many planes using A20s because of its turn radius and speed...and that many nose guns can become very...addicting :D
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If one simply equates "overlooked" with "least usage in LW", it's easy:
D3A
Bf 110C
C.202
Those three had the lowest "usage" numbers in LW in 2009, having less than 0.1% of all kills and deaths combined.
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P38
Everyone seems to want to kill you if your in one, little do they know they have sealed their fate by nosing over into that dive.
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spit5, rarely see it anymore since they dropped the ammo loadout :(
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spit5, rarely see it anymore since they dropped the ammo loadout :(
its a great little bird. seen myself get into many fights that go bad on my half due to it.
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110c-4b
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C205, is a great little plane
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F6F :aok
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110c, throttle control is everything. Shes big, shes fat, you don't want your friends seeing you ride it but ohhhhhhhhhh...............the guns, huge, sticking in your face, with the nipples pointing up.
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Each ammo bunker should take 2500 lbs each. This will stop the 1 person Pork machines. Porking is way too easy
Kam
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234...
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Yak-9T, P-51B & P-47D-25
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110c, throttle control is everything. Shes big, shes fat, you don't want your friends seeing you ride it but ohhhhhhhhhh...............the guns, huge, sticking in your face, with the nipples pointing up.
Very well articulated
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Each ammo bunker should take 2500 lbs each. This will stop the 1 person Pork machines. Porking is way too easy
Kam
Yeah, the ammo bunkers do seem a bit soft to me, but then for game concessions the existing settings kinda make sense in the main arenas.
The last time I took a 190F-8 to pork a field, it ended up being real knuckle biter for me. Didn't realize there were a dozen defenders flying around it until I was into my first dive on a hangar :O
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C205, is a great little plane
I was going to say that but at times you can run into a small hoard of them, then your in trouble.
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P38 :D
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C205, is a great little plane
Most of the time I feel like I'm the only one that flies it regularly.
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Yak-9T, P-51B & P-47D-25
Von, who is that guy on your avatar?
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Each ammo bunker should take 2500 lbs each. This will stop the 1 person Pork machines. Porking is way too easy
Kam
The pork machine stops itself. Bish it seems are notorious for not porking anything. :mad:
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C202 is a blast to catch people underestimating...190A8 is often underestimated as well (people expect BnZ or HO only from it)
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I also think the majority ignores the C205. It's a fine little plane if you like climb rate, speed, and decent guns. I think a lot of people get turned off by its low speed handling. Quite a few guys seem to know about it though, as evidenced by this thread. The Yak is a handful if it's flown right as well.
Wiley.
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I also think the majority ignores the C205.
All depends how someone defines "majority", or "overlooked". The 205 is still in the upper half of "most used" plane list. It's just not the mainstay of most players, but then, almost no plane but about a dozen is...
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You see alot of Spits, but dont see many spit 5s
you see alot of 190s but you dont see many F8s
You see alot of 38s but not many G models
Thats what I was getting at Lusche I know there are some hangar queens but Im talking birds people come back to, mine is the F8
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you and youre stupid fighter mode B25s :furious kidding man kidding :aok Basically the A20 is the very easymode B25 when dogfighting. I've killed many planes using A20s because of its turn radius and speed...and that many nose guns can become very...addicting :D
its not easymode flying on the edge of lossing parts or keeping them
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The Ta-152 such a great plane that you don't see many fly. I think because its so temperamental to fly and takes time to get used to.
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You see alot of Spits, but dont see many spit 5s
Though amazingly the supposed "monster" XIV is even rarer than the V.. despite being one of the cheapest perk rides ;)
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Love the 190F-8 for jabo runs. but the one I really enjoy flying the most is the Bf 109E-4. Its slow and you have to get in close for the guns but it is so much fun to fly.
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ive always liked the c205, and i dont have THAT hard of a time turnfighting with it... just work the throttle. been flying the g6 for a day now too. my mainstay is the f4u-1.
:airplane:
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C205.
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109F definitely should be mentioned here.
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its not easymode flying on the edge of lossing parts or keeping them
i've never hit the edge in an A20 to break up. you dont dive fast in them cobia, you stall fight and pull wide turn fights in them. the two heavy engines it has can pull you into a good stall and nose right back over on the enemy. I just killed 9 today in 3 flights. 4 one and landed, 2 the next and died, 3 after that and landed
im 13 kills to 3 deaths so far this tour in it against fighters in the A20. you can look at my stats if you dont believe me :aok
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Well...never see P47-N's. LOTSA M's...not so many the others
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Each ammo bunker should take 2500 lbs each. This will stop the 1 person Pork machines. Porking is way too easy
Kam
Sounds like kam is getting tired of me and my squad taking out his ords so he can't bomb our gv's.
:rofl
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Ki-61
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I-16 :D
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i've never hit the edge in an A20 to break up. you dont dive fast in them cobia, you stall fight and pull wide turn fights in them. the two heavy engines it has can pull you into a good stall and nose right back over on the enemy. I just killed 9 today in 3 flights. 4 one and landed, 2 the next and died, 3 after that and landed
im 13 kills to 3 deaths so far this tour in it against fighters in the A20. you can look at my stats if you dont believe me :aok
it actually handles nicely at high speeds,but then again i just started flying it so i,m still learning ;)
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it actually handles nicely at high speeds,but then again i just started flying it so i,m still learning ;)
Boy aint that the truth... He learns me every time I run into him. :D
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i've never hit the edge in an A20 to break up. you dont dive fast in them cobia, you stall fight and pull wide turn fights in them. the two heavy engines it has can pull you into a good stall and nose right back over on the enemy. I just killed 9 today in 3 flights. 4 one and landed, 2 the next and died, 3 after that and landed
im 13 kills to 3 deaths so far this tour in it against fighters in the A20. you can look at my stats if you dont believe me :aok
Bar, Cobia is the master of the tub, errr A-20. :)
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ummmm 47 D11, P40b, 109f4 and the f4f4 :aok
kill the fhs and the D3a or the Sbd are fun for base defense.
froger
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Yak9T& U, Ki-61, C-205/202 all tend to be under used, and flown by those who truly understand them.
All of them have a slight handycap of one form or another. Be it short ammo clip, poor cockpit visibility, etc.
My personal favorite currently is the Ki-61. Nose mounted guns, high rate of fire, fast enough to be dangerous, agile enough to get me out of trouble, or deeper into it.
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it actually handles nicely at high speeds,but then again i just started flying it so i,m still learning ;)
:lol stress starts hitting you at 350. how much further can it go?
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I can get it to about 460 or so but anything over 380 requires careful handling and at about 410 it's easy to shed stuff...
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110c, throttle control is everything. Shes big, shes fat, you don't want your friends seeing you ride it but ohhhhhhhhhh...............the guns, huge, sticking in your face, with the nipples pointing up.
A plastic surgeon once asked me to create a 3d animation of his work because he was getting sued again.
One of the issues was that, when plastic surgery is done wrongly, the symptom is called "star-gazing".
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Boston.
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/110seeya.png)
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Boston.
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/110seeya.png)
I remember WW posting once that he was playing with this plane (the way other folks fly A20's) and positively OWNING people with it
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Most of the time I feel like I'm the only one that flies it regularly.
Been flying the C205 regularly for the last couple of tours. My kill/death ratio is significantly better in it than my overall average. That said. I still haven't fully worked out the cannon ballistics.
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I-16, Brewster, P-39, I fly all of them quite regularly :D
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I remember WW posting once that he was playing with this plane (the way other folks fly A20's) and positively OWNING people with it
Their is only one person that can fly the A-20 like a spit that i know of. Kicked my bellybutton to many times.
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My three favorite rides, and not in any order of preference
C202
KI61
LA5
Luv those birds and they're not flown much.... except by a few of us.
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Hardly ever see any variants of the 109 other than K, and those are mostly flown by the muppets.
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Hardly ever see any variants of the 109 other than K, and those are mostly flown by the muppets.
Other 109's see some pretty good use beside the K, last year the K-4 had "only" 42% of all 109's kills and deaths (G-14 being second with 23%). What I am only wondering why not more people are perk farming in a G-2 or F-4 (both ENY 30) instad of that leadpig 190A-8.
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I used to dweeb w the 190A8 but it got boring decided to fly the HurriD once inawhile, it is a badarse plane wicked cannon can turn just as good as the IIC.
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Hardly ever see any variants of the 109 other than K, and those are mostly flown by the muppets.
Hey, I'm not a Muppet... neither is Kermit....
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Hey, I'm not a Muppet... neither is Kermit....
Same......
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Same...
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Same...
Geez, sorry to offend you...4. Just speaking from personal experience, didnt claim to be an omniscent being...
And i love your avatar.
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f4f
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I feel a little dirty, but I flew the 109 tonight and had fun...
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What bird do you fly that you think it gets overlooked by the rest of the community?
Yak9T is the answer to the 'Automatic E Machine' (Bf109K4). More people should fly it.
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Boston.
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/110seeya.png)
i've always used the A20s, never tried the Bostons out
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i've always used the A20s, never tried the Bostons out
Not a lot of punch with the four 303's sadly but for some reason it wont shed parts compared to the A20G at speed? This is a good example of the A20G shedding parts as I caught & shot down this Tempest & yet from my experience I wont break off bits in the Boston?
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/ruddersaway-2.png)
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This talk of ops in A20s and Bostons is intriguing. I've tried both in offline mode. I'd love to work with someone that is well versed in either. Do you all find them at all similar to the Mosquito?
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Each ammo bunker should take 2500 lbs each. This will stop the 1 person Pork machines. Porking is way too easy
Kam
Agreed I never quite understood ammo bunker easy kill . Hangers hard to kill . Wood structure vs. reinforced concrete half underground .
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B25h and IL2 for dogfighting. and hurri 1 :D
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I would have to say the Ki-61 and or the C205.
Both are competitive MA planes when flow right.
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Do you all find them at all similar to the Mosquito?
No not at all A20 & Boston will out turn it every time.
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #4
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We all know you came out of the closet long ago there Delirium. :rofl
You would be hilarious if you were not so tragically impaired. :D
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Careful Bear, he is coming out of the closet.
He can't help himself Del and no, I never been at 35 thousand feet :lol
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See Rule #4
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B-25 for me, but the A-20's one of those planes I've always wanted to learn how to fly well.
The A20 is easymode. If only more people knew it.
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"closet". Gee Voss, did you at least save the Scorpion that gave you Cancer?
Classic example of the gibberish that makes you morons stand out as the fools you are. No one takes any of you seriously except yourselves and no one could make bigger fools of you than you do yourselves. My skin is thick alright Karaya and your poor and lame attempts at making fun of me by calling me 'Voss' dont have any power on me. Sorry you made the mistake of believing this line of crap but you did it to yourself. I would say you deserve what you got.
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Yak9T is the answer to the 'Automatic E Machine' (Bf109K4). More people should fly it.
Interesting to advocate for a plane that you have never flown.
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I deack in F-8 ONLY. It gets used by me.
I would say most overlooked is C2.
perdweeb
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The FW190F8 I think is the most overlooked plane in the game. The 12 rockets can deack a base in 2 passes and you can still have a 500KG bomb and tons of ammo left. Since it is a 190 its a great diver and is narrow with lots of extra armor making it hard to hit and beat up by ack.
What bird do you fly that you think it gets overlooked by the rest of the community?
I agree Emillio,
I porked a field with one today and almost got it de akked as well.
the f8 is gonna get some use from me :rock
froger
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I agree Emillio,
I porked a field with one today and almost got it de akked as well.
the f8 is gonna get some use from me :rock
froger
lol if I only knew how to get a good avatar :D
I think the F8 honestly has just some loyal pilots who keep coming back to her, like the yak.
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Very Observant Special inSight :D
always in the back of my mind too bear :D
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it actually handles nicely at high speeds,but then again i just started flying it so i,m still learning ;)
:rofl
You da man :rock </ankle hump>
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P-39Q!
Nothing beats punching a 37mm shell through a guy who thinks he's gonna get you in your "lesser" plane, just because you're still lining up the single shot that will rip him apart. *fwoomp* *BOOM* "I FREAKING GOT HIM!!! AWESOME!!!" :x
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/Makoyouidiot/P-39Q37mmhitsF4U.jpg)
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He can't help himself Del and no, I never been at 35 thousand feet :lol
I heard you can save around 8 gallons of gas flying that high.
ack-ack
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"closet". Gee Voss, did you at least save the Scorpion that gave you Cancer?
The scorpion bite gave him a heart attack, the prospect of his scam falling apart gave him brain cancer.
ack-ack
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Interesting to advocate for a plane that you have never flown.
Don't think any of the Yaks were certified for sub-orbital flight.
ack-ack
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the F8 is one of the best jabo planes IMO. and it's a 190, so it just naturally rawks :rock
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See Rule #4
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The lobotomy removed the cancer and Chalenge was born.
I thought it was the 'cranial/anal disengagement lift' that removed the brain cancer?
ack-ack
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I have lived in some of the many high rise buildings around here and overlooked these birds all the time
(http://www.goldcoast.com.au/images/uploadedfiles/editorial/pictures/2008/12/30/TOPLESS_NEWS-WIDE_-344PX_E3260086_1489.JPG)
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P-39Q!
Nothing beats punching a 37mm shell through a guy who thinks he's gonna get you in your "lesser" plane, just because you're still lining up the single shot that will rip him apart. *fwoomp* *BOOM* "I FREAKING GOT HIM!!! AWESOME!!!" :x
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/Makoyouidiot/P-39Q37mmhitsF4U.jpg)
probably one of very few planes that work better in the game than they did in real life :aok love the AH P39s
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probably one of very few planes that work better in the game than they did in real life :aok love the AH P39s
The P39,P400 worked better in the real war than most think!The neutering they got by government and all knowing military brass,was nothing short of a blasphemy.They still did a good job as Mud daubers like the P40's.The Russians threw out the horrible Oldsmobile 37 mm,and replaced it with a 20mm,left two fiftys on it and the P39Q was very good on the Eastern front,where the fights were lower.Along came the P63 and another underhanded move kept them out fight,mostly being used as target planes,being shot at by planes with wax bullets.The P63 could stay with the P51 at alt,but were never given the chance because of graft on the government purchaser's part.Someone was getting a kickback from North American,you can bet on that.Seen a P63 at an airshow a few years back.A local guy had bought it from a former Astronaut.He always had bought the P51 "Old Yellow",and he flew it better than he did the P63.I think he wasn't as bold with the P63,but again,he was a self taught pilot.This guy must be rolling in money,because I think he just bought this areas other P51 "Section8".
Dobey
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The P39,P400 worked better in the real war than most think!The neutering they got by government and all knowing military brass,was nothing short of a blasphemy.They still did a good job as Mud daubers like the P40's.The Russians threw out the horrible Oldsmobile 37 mm,and replaced it with a 20mm,left two fiftys on it and the P39Q was very good on the Eastern front,where the fights were lower.Along came the P63 and another underhanded move kept them out fight,mostly being used as target planes,being shot at by planes with wax bullets.The P63 could stay with the P51 at alt,but were never given the chance because of graft on the government purchaser's part.Someone was getting a kickback from North American,you can bet on that.Seen a P63 at an airshow a few years back.A local guy had bought it from a former Astronaut.He always had bought the P51 "Old Yellow",and he flew it better than he did the P63.I think he wasn't as bold with the P63,but again,he was a self taught pilot.This guy must be rolling in money,because I think he just bought this areas other P51 "Section8".
Dobey
:lol sorry for the confusion there irondog. I meant that the P39 was a great plane in real life too but exactly what you stated is why i said what i said :aok sometimes i need sleep before posting things :rolleyes:
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The P39,P400 worked better in the real war than most think!The neutering they got by government and all knowing military brass,was nothing short of a blasphemy.
Blasphemy maybe, but if it was then the army wasn't solely responsible for the decision, nor was it done in the face of protest by the aircraft manufacturer. I found the following in "Cobra! Bell Aircraft Corporation 1934-1946" by Birch Mathews
On January 17th 1940 after the decision to remove the turbocharger was made Larry Bell wrote to George W. Lewis at NACA.
as a result of the wind tunnel tests at Langley Field, we are getting extraordinarily satisfactory results. From all indications the XP-39 will do over 400 miles per hours (even) with 1,150 horsepower. All of the changes were improvements and we have eliminated a million and one problems by removal of the turbosupercharger.
Mathews also states that in a history of aircraft engines written by Robert Schlaifer, Schlaifer had the following to say on the subject.
The turbosupercharger was not developed to adequate reliability for general service until the very end of the decade.
and,
1938, in fact, Allison, Curtiss and Bell actually persuaded the Army to remove the the turbo from the (Curtis) Hawk and Airacobra fighters, both of which had it in their original form.
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P40 is very under used. I has a big learning curve so most dump it before ever becoming proficient in it. It was simply an early model Pony (absent the laminar flow wing form...). If you fly it 16K and under just like a Pony, you will see results.
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The P-40 is an incapable plane that nobody should bother learning to fly. :noid :devil
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P-47D11 & D25, Yak9T, Hurricane (all models)
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I wouldn't include the HurriIIC there, Gorf. It turns around like a frisbee and has 4 hispano death rays.
The P-40, P-39, C.202, 109-E4 and my beloved B5N2 get overlooked quite a bit.
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I personally think the most overlooked bird is the White Face Grey Cockatiel.
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a6m2 zero-sen
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I gota say, I've never seen a D3A in combat. I've seen EVERY other aircraft (and flown most), but not a D3A.
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I gota say, I've never seen a D3A in combat. I've seen EVERY other aircraft (and flown most), but not a D3A.
Seen Lynx dog fight in it before & land kills.
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I gota say, I've never seen a D3A in combat. I've seen EVERY other aircraft (and flown most), but not a D3A.
I've shot down a P-47N in it, fair and square, he didn't auger, I shot his elevators off after he gave up trying to out turn me and tried to extend starting at 150mph and on the deck.
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C205 and the 190A8 are good defenders for me ....like to cause over shoots and unload the cannons on them
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seafire