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Title: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: SmokinLoon on June 10, 2010, 08:58:38 PM
Or... maybe it is my video card?

I cant seem to find a resolution that gives me a good picture in AH., it is either too wide or too tall.  I found a good setting for my desktop (the next step up from 1280x1024), but the best I can get out of AH is the 1280X1024 regardless and that makes things elongated left and right.  The firing reticle is oval instead of circular. 

Is it due to my Radeon HD3400 vid card???
Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: Shamus on June 10, 2010, 09:54:42 PM
You probably want 1440x900 on that, check and see if that is native resolution in the documentation.

shamus
Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: Buzzard7 on June 10, 2010, 09:55:25 PM
Should set it for the native resolution of the monitor. My 22" is set at 1680x1050. Nothing is out of whack or elongated.
Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: 1701E on June 10, 2010, 10:00:01 PM
You always want to use the native resolution on LCDs for best picture and the HD3400 will support that (up to 2560x1600).  In the manual it should show a Native resolution, use that as your desktop and in-game and you should be fine.  Also since it's wide-screen you'll need a wide-screen resolution (native will be) 1280x1024 is not WS though, things such as 1680x1050 or 1440x900 are.  If you can't find the native resolution in the booklet, either Google the monitor specs or post the model number here and we'll help.  Also, make sure the Field of View is set to Auto.
Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on June 11, 2010, 12:32:51 AM
Or... maybe it is my video card?

I cant seem to find a resolution that gives me a good picture in AH., it is either too wide or too tall.  I found a good setting for my desktop (the next step up from 1280x1024), but the best I can get out of AH is the 1280X1024 regardless and that makes things elongated left and right.  The firing reticle is oval instead of circular. 

Is it due to my Radeon HD3400 vid card???

If your computer is some branded el-cheapo it's possible you're using custom drivers that lack support for the resolutions you need. In that case www.omegadrivers.com might be your answer. Do _not_ go to that site unless you know what you're doing though. Ask help if you need it.
Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: zack1234 on June 11, 2010, 02:30:25 AM
Field of view settings on start up menu might help.
It's a combination of both settings, I accessed video settings through the windows display settings etc :old:
"Adapter" "List all modes" will show available modes for your monitor. :old:
Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: SmokinLoon on June 11, 2010, 06:15:16 AM
the monitor is an Acer X191W.

I looked through all stash of booklets and couldn't find the book to my video card.  The monitor I just bought for $40 from a co-worker.

Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: Spikes on June 11, 2010, 06:17:25 AM
I've got a 19" Wide screen and use 1440x900. Works great.
Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: Masherbrum on June 11, 2010, 06:25:07 AM
I've got a 19" Wide screen and use 1440x900. Works great.

1440x900 is the Native Resolution of his monitor as well.   SL, use that selection in Video Settings.
Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: mbailey on June 11, 2010, 06:36:28 AM
Not to hijack the thread but I have Another monitor question if someone knows the answer.
I have a Dell s2209w 22" monitor that says the native resolution is 1920x1080@60hz. My question is that the game wont let me set the resolution at this resolution.Is that because of my integrated video chip not being able to handle it.I currently have the game at 1024x768 and with everything down a recent memory upgrade (2gigs) the game is very playable with no issues. Any ideas? Would downloading the HiRes allow me to view things widescreen,or (as silly as this sounds)is 1024x768 widescreen?

Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: Skuzzy on June 11, 2010, 06:48:24 AM
Did you install the INF file for the monitor?  Also note, some monitors have settings that automatically stretch the picture to fill the screen, so a 4:3 aspect ratio image is stretched instead of having black bars on the sides.

Always run an LCD panel at its native resolution.  Anything else will look bad.
Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: TequilaChaser on June 11, 2010, 08:43:00 AM
Not to hijack the thread but I have Another monitor question if someone knows the answer.
I have a Dell s2209w 22" monitor that says the native resolution is 1920x1080@60hz. My question is that the game wont let me set the resolution at this resolution.Is that because of my integrated video chip not being able to handle it.I currently have the game at 1024x768 and with everything down a recent memory upgrade (2gigs) the game is very playable with no issues. Any ideas? Would downloading the HiRes allow me to view things widescreen,or (as silly as this sounds)is 1024x768 widescreen?


no sir, are you sure that is not suppose to be 1620 x 1080 for wide screen?  1920 x 1280 is also for wide screen ( for Standard 4:3 it would be 1440 x 1080  or 1707 x 1280 )

all the following resolutions are regular 4:3 aspect ratio:
( if you look back, remember that all 5 of these screen res settings were what we actually saw for our old CRT monitors we used to use )

640 x 480
800 x 600
1024 x 768
1067 x 800
1280 x 1024 ( <--- most modern Standard 4:3 LCD screens stop at this aspect ratio  )

( NOTE - for 4:3 aspect ratio Aces High plays best @ 1280 x 1024 screen res settings, and sometimes one will see a decrease in performance when dropping to 1024x768 screen res )
 
1423 x 1067 }
1707 x 1280 }
                 }------------------- these aspect ratio / resolutions one would hardly ever see in a standard LCD Monitor
1897 x 1423 }
2276 x 1707 }

NOTE* for most people in Aces High, leaving your "Field of View" setting set to auto is recommended...... however for some of us, we might need to manually set the "Field of View" to 90 degrees for Standard Monitors, to where it now reverts back to 86 degrees if left to auto, this is cutting part of your picture off when in the game......

NOTE* if you are using a wide screen LCD it will be much higher from 110 to 120 degrees and should pick up automatically without adjustment.....

TC's experience testing this: while testing on 4 Standard LCD monitors and 2 or 3 wide screen monitors..... all Standard Aspect Ratio monitors recently started auto loading with 86 degrees rather than the 90 degrees it first used when the game settings switched to this feature of being able to set the "Field of View Angle" ( had me actually freaking out until I found the problem, I thought my HPS settings ( views ) had gotten messed up somehow. when just changing this from 86 to 90 and my views were back like I had them set originally ...... )

all the Wide Screen Monitors stayed with the same auto setting, however

( when you have "Auto" selected, you can still see what your field of view degrees are, they are just grayed out ! )

YMMV > this may not be the case for everyone, it is just what I have experienced in loading up AH on 5 seperate computers and using different monitors, different video cards, different joysticks... ( you know, got to love HTC for all the quick updates &/or patches... but man it gets to be a pain when you are updating 4 or 5 different PC's every time just to see how the new updates affect gameplay, etc...   :rofl )

also, I do not know if this still applies for LCD monitors today, but I was once informed to have the drivers ( Monitor INF file ) installed for my particular monitor, and to not use the Plug & Play  / automatic detect feature of Windows ( 98, 2000, XP, etc )
I was told by using this Plug & Play setting, that it would shorten my monitors life... to where as if I used the INF/driver file for my monitor it would increase the monitors life ..... again YMMV.......

hope this helps

Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: SmokinLoon on June 11, 2010, 10:12:10 AM
Alright, the 1440 x 900 works great on my PC, but AH does not give that to me for an option.
Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on June 11, 2010, 10:42:02 AM
Alright, the 1440 x 900 works great on my PC, but AH does not give that to me for an option.


In your AH folder there's a subfolder called 'settings'.

Make a copy of the original video8 file inside settings folder and save it somewhere else. You can then try to open video8 file in notepad or wordpad.

Video8 cfg file has lines defining resolution width and height. Yours probably read currently

1024,Width
768,Height

If and only if you made a copy of the video8 file and saved it, you can try manually setting the two lines to read:

1440,Width
900,Height

Save changes to file and try to restart AH. With luck you might have 1440x900 resolution on AH.

If AH doesn't start for some reason or screen is garbled, replace the modified video8 file with the original you copied as a first thing and everything is back to like it was.

Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: SmokinLoon on June 11, 2010, 11:26:22 AM
a BIG thank you to everyone for all the help.

Mr. Ripley's advice saved the day!
Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: Skuzzy on June 11, 2010, 01:54:58 PM
If the resolution the monitor supports was not listed in the Aces High video options, then that means you do not have the proper INF file loaded for the monitor.  By manually setting the resolution, the video card may not use the proper signaling to establish that resolution and could lead to damage to your monitor.

The resolutions the game show, is all the resolutions the monitor reports to support.  We do not hide any resolutions.
Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: TequilaChaser on June 11, 2010, 02:30:36 PM
Skuzzy,  ( this might be a bit off topic )

would using a DVI to VGA connector from the video card to the monitor or vice versa have any effect on what the OS might pick up as offered resolutions?  even though the correct INF file is loaded for the Monitor?
Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: Skuzzy on June 11, 2010, 02:45:10 PM
The converter should not effect the resolution choices, if the correct INF is loaded.
Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: AirFlyer on June 11, 2010, 03:12:13 PM
Skuzzy,  ( this might be a bit off topic )

would using a DVI to VGA connector from the video card to the monitor or vice versa have any effect on what the OS might pick up as offered resolutions?  even though the correct INF file is loaded for the Monitor?

Never had an issue with it myself, I use one since my PS3 is hooked up to the same monitor and hogs the only DVI ports so I use VGA on the computer. On the other hand you still only get VGA quality but that's no surprise.
Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: mbailey on June 12, 2010, 09:58:53 AM
If the resolution the monitor supports was not listed in the Aces High video options, then that means you do not have the proper INF file loaded for the monitor.  By manually setting the resolution, the video card may not use the proper signaling to establish that resolution and could lead to damage to your monitor.

The resolutions the game show, is all the resolutions the monitor reports to support.  We do not hide any resolutions.

Please forgive me, INF File? Is that like a driver?  (speak slow cause im a computer moron  :D )

Seriously though, just google Dells2209w INF file and that should get me started?

Thanks Skuzzy,and everyone else.
Title: Re: New 19in Widescreen Givng Me Fits.
Post by: TequilaChaser on June 12, 2010, 10:23:28 AM
Please forgive me, INF File? Is that like a driver?  (speak slow cause im a computer moron  :D )

Seriously though, just google Dells2209w INF file and that should get me started?

Thanks Skuzzy,and everyone else.

yes that INF file is basically the Monitor's driver

also you stated you play in 1024 x 768...... that is not a considered a "Wide Screen Resolution"..... if you infact have a wide screen monitor.....

also note that the minimal recommended setting per HTC info to use the 1024 HI RS textures is 1280 x 1024 ( not sure what the minimal is for a wide screen monitor )


when downloading your monitors driver file, just create a folder on your HD 

example 1: C:\DELL Monitor\     example 2: C:\computer and component files\  ( I do something similar to keep all the drivers and utilities in one place on my PC's HD, this is not really necessary but saves me time in possible future scenarios when needing o find an important fileto any of my PC's components, monitors, etc )

download the .inf file to any area or folder then go open the folder and right click on the .inf file then click install... you should be good to go from there.....


Good Luck, mbailey, hope this helps......