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Title: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: burtrum on June 17, 2010, 04:40:04 PM
i think they should make u stay a whole week if u switch countries....... switching country's just to locate a cv u can't find is kinda lame an i lost respect for the poeple an person who do that junk yes its just a gameee but  why cheat like that!!
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: infowars on June 17, 2010, 04:48:39 PM
Dude,  you're right it sucks.

So did school I see.   :lol
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: waystin2 on June 17, 2010, 04:49:02 PM
Tis lame, but no need to change the time limit.  It would affect to many other players that play with a bit more class.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Masherbrum on June 17, 2010, 05:58:57 PM
Why hide em?  :noid
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: greens on June 17, 2010, 06:06:37 PM
Kinda a no brainer to find cvs. just get a buddy or 2 n up ar234s find em sink em  :aok
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: JunkyII on June 17, 2010, 06:18:32 PM
Why hide em?  :noid
Thats a great question!!!!! They shouldnt be 5 sectors away from anything, they should be in an attack on an enemy field where there isnt a nearby airfield or they should be patrolling close to bases on the front line.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: thndregg on June 17, 2010, 06:21:51 PM
Just an anonymous online version of cheating at this:
(http://earbuds.popdose.com/robert/img/battleship.jpg)
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: The Fugitive on June 17, 2010, 06:40:56 PM
Switching side to find a hidden cv is lame, so is hiding it in the first place.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: lyric1 on June 17, 2010, 07:15:56 PM
The joys of rank I guess you get to be captain & do what you want. Hang on there is 8 inch guns on this fleet :O Going to have to see if I can take out Nit fighter hangars as soon as possible. :D
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: JunkyII on June 17, 2010, 07:41:56 PM
The joys of rank I guess you get to be captain & do what you want. Hang on there is 8 inch guns on this fleet :O Going to have to see if I can take out Nit fighter hangars as soon as possible. :D
Your a clown :aok
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: 321BAR on June 17, 2010, 07:45:14 PM
clowns can be cool :)
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: JunkyII on June 17, 2010, 07:45:54 PM
clowns can be cool :)
Cool? No.....Funny? Yes
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: kilo2 on June 17, 2010, 07:46:55 PM
I just like being admiral and running around yelling "It's a trap!!!!"
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Bear76 on June 17, 2010, 07:55:57 PM
Cool? No.....Funny? Yes


Oh come on, Cracker is cool.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: StokesAk on June 17, 2010, 07:56:59 PM
The only people this really hurts is the people who do it to destroy their reputation, it sucks buts its bound to happen.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Nemisis on June 17, 2010, 10:07:27 PM
Switching sides to locate CV's, goons, bomber formations, and just to spy out the dispositions is a sign of incompetence IMO. It says that the guys who do (and those that they report to) aren't good enough to beat you without cheating.

Same with second accounts used on laptops (I've know a few who confessed to "previsouly" using that method, and I lost much respect for them).
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Dawger on June 17, 2010, 10:12:17 PM
Switching sides to locate CV's, goons, bomber formations, and just to spy out the dispositions is a sign of incompetence IMO. It says that the guys who do (and those that they report to) aren't good enough to beat you without cheating.

Same with second accounts used on laptops (I've know a few who confessed to "previsouly" using that method, and I lost much respect for them).

As long as they are paying for those second accounts I'm all for it. More revenue means a happier Hitech and that is always good.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Clone155 on June 17, 2010, 10:44:47 PM
I just like being admiral and running around yelling "It's a trap!!!!"

lol  :lol
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: jd on June 18, 2010, 09:30:07 AM
Switching side to find a hidden cv is lame, so is hiding it in the first place.


People REALLY do this? I know people hide the cv 'cause when I try to move it, some clown always moves it right back, but switch sides to find it. Who would fly with that person? I guess it takes all kinds. :rolleyes:


MajChaos
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: uptown on June 18, 2010, 04:46:32 PM
CVs are the biggest source of shady play and outright point milking in the game. I've lost count the number of times I've seen the opposing side tieing up the SB with a shade account or use their other account to move the CV in position for their bombers.

CV groups may be cool to have and all, but they really cause more problems then anything else IMO. I really don't see the point in defending against them anymore as they can pull right up the the beach and you're in either puffy ack or in 5" gun range.

They really need a high perk cost on these things. They pack a aweful lot of firepower and they're too easy for shady gamers to take advantage of.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Zoney on June 18, 2010, 05:19:16 PM
i think they should make u stay a whole week if u switch countries....... switching country's just to locate a cv u can't find is kinda lame an i lost respect for the poeple an person who do that junk  yes its just a gameee but  why cheat like that!!



Hmmmmmmmmm.

 :bolt:
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: grumpy37 on June 18, 2010, 05:36:29 PM
A week is a bit much, maybe just until the map resets.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: JunkyII on June 18, 2010, 05:59:10 PM
Rooks have a CV hiding right now, they also tool TT on NDisles....what are the knights to do but fly 1 1/2 sectors for a fight.....
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 18, 2010, 06:03:45 PM
CVs are the biggest source of shady play and outright point milking in the game. I've lost count the number of times I've seen the opposing side tieing up the SB with a shade account

This may be the new, biggest myth in the game. 

You can't shoot at a cv that is out of the shore battery's arc of fire so you sit and wait while someone whines about the Spiez!1! in the SB.  Then, when it does bear, between the slow rate of fire and missing a moving target, someone is still whining about the Spiez!1! in the SB.



wrongway
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: uptown on June 18, 2010, 06:41:19 PM
I've seen it happen bud. Do you actually think that folks that go through the trouble of shooting their your account down, wouldn't hop in a SB?

I'm not saying it happens everytime...but it does happen. Pay attention to where certain squads are and whos on the roster and you might learn a few things. :aok
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Crash Orange on June 18, 2010, 06:41:43 PM
Why hide em?  :noid

Because that's how they're best used to tactical advantage.

A "hidden" CV doesn't necessarily mean 6 sectors away from the action. It might be 5 miles off an unsuspecting base shelling the town, or it might be halfway across a wide stretch of water on its way to the enemy's rear.

OTOH, it might be hidden because the enemy has the port it goes with, you're not in a good position to retake that port just yet, and you have other CVs you can use to attack without risking one that the enemy will get back if they sink it. Why hand the enemy a valuable asset?

I don't understand why some people seem to think applying the most elementary principles of military strategy and tactics (keeping the enemy in the dark about your objectives and capabilities goes back as far as Sun Tzu, Homer, and the Book of Joshua) constitutes dweebery. It's a game and the object is to win, as long as you're not cheating or playing dishonorably.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Tarstar on June 18, 2010, 06:57:35 PM
Masking a CV's location is one thing.. Taking it out of play and hiding it in a corner is just lame and IMHO, a chicken watermelon move.. It's up to the ranking folks on those country's to rectify that sort of BS.. That said, any lametard who switches sides for intel. of any kind, is a pretty sad sort and probably still lives in his mom's basement..  :banana:
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Tarstar on June 18, 2010, 07:01:28 PM
Rooks have a CV hiding right now, they also tool TT on NDisles...

Junky, that is hardly an issue isolated to the Rooks.. Just sayin'..
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Nemisis on June 18, 2010, 07:33:27 PM
As long as they are paying for those second accounts I'm all for it. More revenue means a happier Hitech and that is always good.

It kills gameplay. Honestly, its quite sad. Some people fell the need to be "the best" at everything they do, even at the cost of their worth as a player and (IMO) the game. If it wouldn't interfere with IP adresses serving multiple (legitiment) playes, I would say HTC limit IP adresses to one account at a time.

Also, I wouldn't mind seeing squads being tied to a country. Something like if you are a member of a squad, you can't switch countries for a week inbetween switches.  The only problem is that people would form "squads" on VOX cannels to get around that rule. I have absolutely no doubt of that.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Masherbrum on June 18, 2010, 07:37:55 PM
Masking a CV's location is one thing.. Taking it out of play and hiding it in a corner is just lame and IMHO, a chicken watermelon move.. It's up to the ranking folks on those country's to rectify that sort of BS.. That said, any lametard who switches sides for intel. of any kind, is a pretty sad sort and probably still lives in his mom's basement..  :banana:

You cannot have it both ways.   You support the squads that hide them in Rookland, including your very own squad.   So are you posting just to take some of the "heat away"? 

Junky, that is hardly an issue isolated to the Rooks.. Just sayin'..

It was hilarious busting your lame 15+ formation NOE missions last night.   It was even better shooting down all 3 goons at your squads NOE attempt at V6 last night as well.  


Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Masherbrum on June 18, 2010, 07:38:45 PM
Because that's how they're best used to tactical advantage.

A "hidden" CV doesn't necessarily mean 6 sectors away from the action. It might be 5 miles off an unsuspecting base shelling the town, or it might be halfway across a wide stretch of water on its way to the enemy's rear.

OTOH, it might be hidden because the enemy has the port it goes with, you're not in a good position to retake that port just yet, and you have other CVs you can use to attack without risking one that the enemy will get back if they sink it. Why hand the enemy a valuable asset?

I don't understand why some people seem to think applying the most elementary principles of military strategy and tactics (keeping the enemy in the dark about your objectives and capabilities goes back as far as Sun Tzu, Homer, and the Book of Joshua) constitutes dweebery. It's a game and the object is to win, as long as you're not cheating or playing dishonorably.

Really, your squad couldn't take a base easily if your lives depended on it.   Swing it elsewhere Loki.   
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Tarstar on June 18, 2010, 07:56:31 PM
You cannot have it both ways.   You support the squads that hide them in Rookland, including your very own squad.   So are you posting just to take some of the "heat away"? 

It was hilarious busting your lame 15+ formation NOE missions last night.   It was even better shooting down all 3 goons at your squads NOE attempt at V6 last night as well.  




~Yawn~
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Dogtown on June 18, 2010, 11:08:28 PM
Wow people really do this stuff ?   :noid 
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 19, 2010, 02:05:23 AM
I've seen it happen bud. Do you actually think that folks that go through the trouble of shooting their your account down, wouldn't hop in a SB?

I'm not saying it happens everytime...but it does happen. Pay attention to where certain squads are and whos on the roster and you might learn a few things. :aok

 :noid :banana: :noid :rofl :noid  :neener:  :noid :cry :noid :furious :noid :P :noid

 :bolt:


wrongway
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: BlauK on June 19, 2010, 04:04:14 AM

(http://koti.welho.com/skukkone/kuvia/PAWs/PAW_no_to_whining.gif)
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Masherbrum on June 19, 2010, 04:46:40 PM
Wow people really do this stuff ?   :noid 

I've seen that Linkin Park avatar before on a PNG"d account.   
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: JunkyII on June 19, 2010, 06:45:42 PM
(http://koti.welho.com/skukkone/kuvia/PAWs/PAW_no_to_whining.gif)
The most idoitic thing I have seen other then unclehurt saying booooo hisssss on 200...
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Dogtown on June 20, 2010, 05:43:11 AM
PNG'd account? i don't get it ...what is that ?
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: EskimoJoe on June 20, 2010, 05:55:49 AM
PNG'd account? i don't get it ...what is that ?

He's telling you that you're not yet experienced enough with the game to participate in the general forums, and that you should stick with the help & training section for a few years.

 :joystick:
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: 321BAR on June 20, 2010, 07:03:32 AM
He's telling you that you're not yet experienced enough with the game to participate in the general forums, and that you should stick with the help & training section for a few years.

 :joystick:
I've seen that Linkin Park avatar before on a PNG"d account.  
ease up guys. dogtown's my XO. he's just got on the AH BBS and hes figuring out its kinks. He's been flying long enough in the game.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: JunkyII on June 20, 2010, 07:43:06 AM
Karaya is talking about Ginger44 I believe.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Masherbrum on June 20, 2010, 01:08:22 PM
Karaya is talking about Ginger44 I believe.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Dogtown on June 20, 2010, 03:07:38 PM
Whatever Joe ...Its people like you that give me motivation to log as many hours as possible and be a pain in the neck whenever possible <S>
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: 1pLUs44 on June 20, 2010, 03:27:40 PM
i think they should make u stay a whole week if u switch countries....... switching country's just to locate a cv u can't find is kinda lame an i lost respect for the poeple an person who do that junk yes its just a gameee but  why cheat like that!!

Because people haven't been doing that since the game started...  :rolleyes:

Hell, I remember it happening when I first started playing.  :lol
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Tarstar on June 20, 2010, 05:38:41 PM
Whatever Joe ...Its people like you that give me motivation to log as many hours as possible and be a pain in the neck whenever possible <S>

Amen
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: 321BAR on June 20, 2010, 05:47:54 PM
Whatever Joe ...Its people like you that give me motivation to log as many hours as possible and be a pain in the neck whenever possible <S>
:cheers:
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: FiLtH on June 21, 2010, 08:09:37 AM
    I have no problem with people switching sides. There are so many out there who play with 2 accounts at the same time that it doesnt really matter.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: sky25 on June 21, 2010, 04:43:21 PM
Whatever Joe ...Its people like you that give me motivation to log as many hours as possible and be a pain in the neck whenever possible <S>

Amen Dogtown!!!!

Forget about it Dogtown. I'm sure that you know that some  people using these forums make up for their bored, lonely, pathetic existence by trash talking anyone they can regardless of the topic. I am not sure why they do it. Maybe it gives them joy. Maybe they think that everyone is impressed by their wicked wit and humor.  I read the comment that other guy made. It takes a real winner to come up with something like that. I am sure that everyone reading the forum was highly impressed with this comment:

"He's telling you that you're not yet experienced enough with the game to participate in the general forums, and that you should stick with the help & training section for a few years.

Real Genius That Guy Is!!!
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Nemisis on June 21, 2010, 07:44:04 PM
I love how we're using skill in a combat sim as the base for social status   :rolleyes:.

...i am so cooler than you.

no you're not. I've got 735 kills in this tour so far.



Someone actually tried to pull rank on me yesterday. He was pissed because I told him to shoot the M3's before they drop troops as opposed to the troops when they are released when in a man gun. He told me to look at our ranks. He was 200 lower than me overall, and I was FAR lower in GV's (172ish as opposed to 890 or so).

When I told him, he said "well I hardly ever GV". And the fact is if NEVER fly attack sorties, rarely fly bombers, and I GV about twice as often as I fly fighters, and have put far more work into my skills as a tanker.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: E25280 on June 21, 2010, 08:47:52 PM
I love how we're using skill in a combat sim as the base for social status   :rolleyes:.

So then I poo-pooed this one guy having a better combined rank by simultaneously chest-thumping my own single-category rank, thereby making it a wonderful pot-meets-kettle moment.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: lyric1 on June 21, 2010, 09:11:00 PM
I love how we're using skill in a combat sim as the base for social status   :rolleyes:.

...i am so cooler than you.

no you're not. I've got 735 kills in this tour so far.



Someone actually tried to pull rank on me yesterday. He was pissed because I told him to shoot the M3's before they drop troops as opposed to the troops when they are released when in a man gun. He told me to look at our ranks. He was 200 lower than me overall, and I was FAR lower in GV's (172ish as opposed to 890 or so).

When I told him, he said "well I hardly ever GV". And the fact is if NEVER fly attack sorties, rarely fly bombers, and I GV about twice as often as I fly fighters, and have put far more work into my skills as a tanker.
You fly Nit don't you?
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Nemisis on June 22, 2010, 12:37:17 AM
Nope lyric1, I WAS bish, but then I went rook for my new squad, the 49th FG.


And E25280, my point isn't that I'm better than that guy (according to rank), but that he shouldn't be using rank as grounds to tell me to shut up, when I had a better score in the area relevant to the argument. In fact, we shouldn't be using rank as grounds for anything.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: 321BAR on June 22, 2010, 06:32:43 AM
Nope lyric1, I WAS bish, but then I went rook for my new squad, the 49th FG.


And E25280, my point isn't that I'm better than that guy (according to rank), but that he shouldn't be using rank as grounds to tell me to shut up, when I had a better score in the area relevant to the argument. In fact, we shouldn't be using rank as grounds for anything.
FLAMEEEEE TIMEEEEE
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: uptown on June 22, 2010, 07:01:48 AM
I have a cool sign for that


(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/smiley-level1_don006.gif)



Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: 999000 on June 22, 2010, 07:04:15 AM
I took a shower, ..I hope I don't rank..I think I got that right?
999000 <S>
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Nemisis on June 22, 2010, 12:39:59 PM
Oh, I think I see why lyric thought I flew knit. There is a NEMESIS, or Nemesis, or whatever the hell he's using, that flys knit. I'm now 49Nem in game.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: E25280 on June 22, 2010, 10:42:24 PM
In fact, we shouldn't be using rank as grounds for anything.  But I'll gladly point out my exact GV rank anyway, just to make sure everyone knows how awesome my rank is.  I think I prefer Kettle to Pot.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Nemisis on June 23, 2010, 03:15:58 PM
Love the "holier than thou" act E25280 . So, what exactly did i do to piss you off. Come on, it has to be something. That or your just in a pissy mood, and you see me as an open target  :headscratch:.


And I didn't point out my exact score, I got it down to within 50 or so (from what I saw in game). I just gave the numbers so people like you wouldn't go "oh your exagerating, I bet you were about even", and you know you would. I personally don't care about rank past it letting me keep a CV away from a shore battery.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: E25280 on June 23, 2010, 08:51:41 PM
And I didn't point out my exact score, I got it down to within 50 or so (from what I saw in game).
Placing "ish" behind 172 means it wasn't exact?  :rofl  OK, if you say so.

"My GV rank was quite a bit better" would be non-specific.  "Mine was 172 "ish" and his was "around" 890" is a very poor attempt at disguising your bragging.  But that's beside the point that you decry using rank to set oneself above another, and yet you did that exact thing. 

Pot, meet kettle.   :aok

Love the "holier than thou" act E25280 . So, what exactly did i do to piss you off. Come on, it has to be something. That or your just in a pissy mood, and you see me as an open target  :headscratch:.
You haven't made me angry or anything of the sort.  These boards have a very high noise to signal ratio.  You seem to like to contribute to the noise part.  There are quite a few who do that, but you seem especially prolific.  Your incessant yammering, often without point or contribution, just means you've left a lot of opportunities to comment on it.

(Of course, by commenting, I suppose I am contributing my own noise . . . Perhaps I'll claim the frying pan since pot and kettle seem to be taken.)
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: Nemisis on June 23, 2010, 09:06:12 PM
I saw a "1" on the front end, and I know it was over 150. I probably remembered it down to the tens for maybe 2hrs after that. I be that if you ask me what my score was 2 months later, I would say 200-300. I DO know his score was around 890, because 890 is just 10 off from 900 and so, not too hard to remember.

For me, under 400 is a good tour (at least in the past), and I try to shoot for a 1:1 KTD as well. Past that, I don't much care if others have a score of 1 and 23:1 KTD's just, so long as I keep improving.


And I'm glad I didn't unknowingly piss you off.
Title: Re: switching sides just to locate a cv
Post by: DeViouS1 on June 23, 2010, 10:17:44 PM
Indeed.. LAME   :(