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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: redman555 on June 18, 2010, 11:58:09 AM
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I am fairly sure this one isnt considered against rules so though I would post it and see what others think.
A 19-year-old teenage girl was punched in the face by a Seattle police officer Tuesday afternoon after a jaywalking incident that ended in a video-taped altercation recorded by an onlooker, and was released earlier today.
The Seattle Police Department's website reported that an unnamed police officer spotted a male jaywalking, and after approaching the teen, the officer noticed four women jaywalk as well.
"The officer instructed the females to step over to his vehicle," said officials. "They were verbally antagonistic."
One of the women walked away from the officer, who escorted the teen back to his squad car.
Officials said that "the female subject began to tense up her arm and pull away from the officer while yelling at him," and after a brief argument, another woman from the group interrupted.
Police said, "The second female subject placed her hands on the officer's arm, causing the officer to believe she was attempting to physically affect the first subject's escape."
The second woman struggled with the officer, pushing him at one point, prompting the officer to punch her in the face.
A witness can be heard on the videotape asking the officer "Are you serious?" as the officer cautioned the woman, "Do not struggle," as he attempted to handcuff her.
The 19-year-old assaulted woman was treated by medical personnel after police back-up arrived at the scene.
Deputy Chief Nick Metz commented on the incident to the press: "You obviously have to take into context everything that occurred from the point that the officer did make contact with the individuals until the situation ended."
Seattle Sgt. Sean Whitcomb added, "There will be a thorough investigation into this incident."
<edit> Just noticed what someone had posted, pause at 11 seconds in, you will see why the officer had to do what he was doing. She grabbed the cop, pulled/pushed him off of her cousin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTR4z_oZIks&feature=player_embedded#!
Personally after watching this video twice, I believe the officer was being touched and pushed by the assailants. The lady he hit was interfering with the arrest and did put her hands on the officer. Personally if I was a cop and someone grabbed me, I wouldn't know if they had a weapon or not. In other words I would do what I had to do to protect myself and control the situation.
There is a small amount of language, most is censored.
What do you others feel about it?
-BigBOBCH
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I saw nothing wrong with it. That girl deserved what she got.
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Cops can get a little cocky some times but he did what was needed and didn't go too far outside the lines.
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There is a big difference between "placing your hand on an arm" and what she did.
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There is a big difference between "placing your hand on an arm" and what she did.
She, for all intensive purposes, picked a fight with him. He was actually patient with the two relentless girls, before enough was finally enough.
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She, for all intensive purposes, picked a fight with him. He was actually patient with the two relentless girls, before enough was finally enough.
Yup he kept his cool afterward too.
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She, for all intensive purposes, picked a fight with him. He was actually patient with the two relentless girls, before enough was finally enough.
I agree, and if you listen around 0-15 seconds, both of the girls are just cussing the officer out.
-BigBOBCH
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She ate it like it already happened before...
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Mr. Zilla, please use the word "Arapahoe" in a sentence.
Arapahoe inna mouth when she backsass me after jaywalkin!
Seriously, I thought she had it coming. If I did what she did to a cop, I'd get tased or the wooden shampoo.
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This girl had previous form for assaulting a police officer also.
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Sure, and I guess I shouldn't imply anything about her occupation as I did in prior post.
After all, Tahoe or not Tahoe, that was the question.
This reminds me of a little joke.
Two women, if we wish to call them that, approach a bank teller. The first presents the teller with a large sack of cash. The teller surprisedly looks up and queries, "young lady, did you hoard all that money yourself?"
The girl gestures to her accomplice and says, "no, my sister hoard (w-ho'ed) half of it."
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She ate it like it already happened before...
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Nah but i didnt see anything wrong with what he did, You do not touch a officer.
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Rosenthal appeared Tuesday in King County Juvenile Court, where supporters said that she lives at the Virginia Miller House, a residential facility with behavior-modification programs for teen girls, but was in contact with her family. It's unclear why the girl is not living with her family.
King County Superior Court pro-tem Judge Ann Danieli found that Seattle police had probable cause to arrest Rosenthal for investigation of third-degree assault and obstruction. However, the judge agreed with the girl's defense attorney that she should be released ....
Rosenthal was charged in November with second-degree robbery. According to prosecutors, she punched a 15-year-old boy in the face while she and a group of youths were on their way to a rave in South Seattle last Aug. 28. The boy told police that his cellphone and $20 were stolen in the incident. A 14-year-old boy told police that he was punched in the head and his hat was stolen.
Authorities say the case was dismissed when the boys refused to testify.
In April 2008, Rosenthal was charged with third-degree theft after she allegedly stole a minivan in Tukwila, prosecutors said. Kent police said she used a screwdriver to break the ignition and start the vehicle.
The charge was later amended to theft of a motor vehicle. Rosenthal was given a deferred disposition — charges would be dropped if she stayed out of trouble — because it was a first-time offense, said Ian Goodhew, deputy chief of staff for Prosecuting Attorney Dan Satterberg.
Her past record shows that she is very familiar with law enforcement.
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This reminds me of a recent local story. A guy was crossing Mass. St, our main downtown steet and was struck by a car. The man was cited for jaywalking.
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He punches like a @#$%. Should have knocked her fronts out. Hell he should have tased them then beat the piss out of them .dumb tard got what she deserved.
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This is why every cop should carry a taser. Right when she put her hands on him he could have stepped back and put her down. That whole time he was fighting with her left him exposed to attack from any of the other suspects. One of them could have easily took the officers weapon and shot him. The headline could have read "Officer slain in Seattle streets" instead the cop was very lucky he didn't get jumped or worst just because some people don't know how to act like grown ups.
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That cop did remain very calm. Kudos to him for a good job.
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I thought he showed great restraint in a dangerous situation. Judging from his actions before and after the punch, it seems like his intention was to regain control of the situation, rather than just inflict harm. I hope the investigation is a brief one, and he gets a pat on the back.
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He showed great restraint with both of them, the one lady got what she had coming for grabing the Officer
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J-walking? Really?
wrongway
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for all intensive purposes
I believe it is more commonly phrased as "for all intents and purposes"...although I kinda like your version ;)
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I believe it is more commonly phrased as "for all intents and purposes"...although I kinda like your version ;)
I have been using that incorrectly my entire life. Thanks!
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I believe it is more commonly phrased as "for all intents and purposes"...although I kinda like your version ;)
I think he actually meant "for all tints and porpoises", mainly because that cop was going to whack that snotty byatch even if she was white and because porpoises are smart enough to cause trouble - just not jaywalking.
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J-walking? Really?
wrongway
That particular stretch of road is congested with heavy traffic and there is a pedestrian bridge right there anyway. Local businesses have been complaining about all the illegal street crossings and the cop was in fact warning one male pedestrian about the illegal crossing when another group, including the accused, crossed over right in front of the officer and then dismissed his reqest that they come over to his location. Thats what started the whole scenario. Dont like the law then change it...do not break it.
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See Rule #6
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That particular stretch of road is congested with heavy traffic and there is a pedestrian bridge right there anyway. Local businesses have been complaining about all the illegal street crossings and the cop was in fact warning one male pedestrian about the illegal crossing when another group, including the accused, crossed over right in front of the officer and then dismissed his reqest that they come over to his location. Thats what started the whole scenario. Dont like the law then change it...do not break it.
Makes sense then. I figure the usual J-walking ticket is a "lets screw with someone" kind of thing.
wrongway
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I don't know man. :headscratch: I think he could have ended the whole ordeal a lot sooner if he had broke out the night stick and just started beating her to a pulp. That would put a end to Jaywalking once and for all. The criminals must pay!!!!!!!!
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are we gonna need another taxpayer funded beer summit?
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he should have tasered her once, then emptied the pepper spray, then tasered again for good measure.... and her friend for that matter.
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Can't spray then taze it will catch on fire lol.
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The girls need to be charged with at the very least interfering with law enforcement action. Attempting to aid escape of a detained individual might be appropriate for the one who got popped in the face, and if I was the officer I'd also retain an attorney to sue her for assault. If the department doesn't back him up, sue the city too. Cops have a hard enough time without their bosses taking the side of people who assault them.
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the officer did what he had to do nothing more nothing less. some of you think he shouldda done more then you guys need some chill pill. cops are not there to punish people, that's the job of the courts. there was no need to use more force than needed, kudos to the officer for being a professional.
semp
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I am just really hoping when the judge sees this that he and or she realizes he had to do that for a reason, its not like he just did it for fun. If this officer gets fired I think it would be totally wrong.
-BigBOBCH
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In a situation like this, it's hard to have a perfect response. But the cop was the one in danger and he did what he had to do. He really left himself exposed for somebody to take his gun and use it against him.
But this is what happens when people act like militants and not respect authority.
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Haha, she earned that for sure :aok As I've always said---> " act like a man, I'll treat you like a man"
Sometimes being a MAN hurts like hell :aok :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Two young girls either too ignorant or too juvinile to listen and comply with an officer of the law. They eventualy got physical with him in their resistance and attempt to evade the law (and over such a petty thing as jaywalking too, tisk-tisk). I say the cop did perfectly right, he could of opted to taze or pepper spray them a lot sooner. The girls should get a couple weeks in county for learning what happens when an officer tells you to stop and wait and they don't comply... they should get more time if they think what they did was in any way was right and stop wasting more public assets on this issue than already has. Or make them pickup roadkill for a year, seems as good a way as any to teach them nobody is special while at the same time implant the seed in their tiny brains that cars + meat = messy bad.
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Watching the video, I'm not certain it warranted an outright slug to the face. She might have been trying to pull his arm away from her friend but it's not like she was squaring off with the guy or jumping on him. The girl was an idiot, but I still think there might have been a better way it could have been handled.
However I'm someone who STRONGLY believes that a man should NEVER strike or harm a woman except for VERY extreme circumstances, and I don't think this qualifies (I even hate seeing it in movies, and that is one of the reason I absolutely cannot watch slasher flicks) Obviously I'm in the minority here.
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Watching the video, I'm not certain it warranted an outright slug to the face. She might have been trying to pull his arm away from her friend but it's not like she was squaring off with the guy or jumping on him. The girl was an idiot, but I still think there might have been a better way it could have been handled.
However I'm someone who STRONGLY believes that a man should NEVER strike or harm a woman except for VERY extreme circumstances, and I don't think this qualifies (I even hate seeing it in movies, and that is one of the reason I absolutely cannot watch slasher flicks) Obviously I'm in the minority here.
But again as I stated before, the cop didn't know if that girl had a knife on her. Also if you watch the video you will see there is a large group around him. He was probably also nervous about people jumping in.
-BigBOBCH
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Remember smokey and the bandit?
"That was just an attention getter."
I believe what they both did could be classified as assault on an occifer.
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The cop shoulda spun around and yelled "Who's next!?"
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J-walking? Really?
wrongway
I think it just escalated. The cop yells 'Whoa whoa whoa you can't cross here' and the girls say "@#$! @$%" and keep on going and now, he gets offended and wants them to stop for their blatant disrespect for the law, and their continued antagonism escalates the situation. Had they just said "I'm sorry officer we shouldn't have crossed illegally, our mistake" It would have been done with, right there most likely, but apparently these girls weren't bright enough to make the appropriate decision.
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I think it just escalated. The cop yells 'Whoa whoa whoa you can't cross here' and the girls say "@#$! @$%" and keep on going and now, he gets offended and wants them to stop for their blatant disrespect for the law, and their continued antagonism escalates the situation. Had they just said "I'm sorry officer we shouldn't have crossed illegally, our mistake" It would have been done with, right there most likely, but apparently these girls weren't bright enough to make the appropriate decision.
Spending a few moments of their time talking to the officer in a respectful and apologetic manner and they would have been on their way.
I just don't get it.
How can anybody think that struggling and/or fighting with a police officer will get you anything but more trouble?
Seriously, what are in these people heads? What made this girl think that her actions were helpful to her in any way?
Is she just THAT stupid? Did her parents fail her that utterly?
If I was the officer I would have put up with that for all of 10 seconds and gotten out the tear gas or stun gun. I think he was in the wrong struggling as long as he did with her.
The idiot who was saying "really?" is another total moron. You aggressively put your hands on an officer expect to get hit/shot/tazed/sprayed.
I have had run ins with officers over the years. It has always been my policy to make their life/job as easy as possible and nine times out of ten they were quite cool back. (let me smoke a cig. etc, etc)
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Yep, in my younger wilder days I used to get locked up 2,3 or 4 times a year. I reckon I've been locked up 20 or 30 times over the years, and not once has a cop ever felt the need to smack me around. I always treated them with respect and they've done the same to me. They usually give back what they get.
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That cop should be suspended and retrained. If he can't control two weak 20 years old girls...what is he planning to do when those grappling skills (or lack of) will actually require him to subdue someone of same weight category?. Just twist that arm like a chicken wing and person will comply very quickly.
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are we gonna need another taxpayer funded beer summit?
+1 vote for best response
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However I'm someone who STRONGLY believes that a man should NEVER strike or harm a woman except for VERY extreme circumstances
I agree with that. Recently I was wrongly accused of striking a woman. Turned out to be a case of someone having the same name as me, but the mere accusation of doing something like that was the most insulting thing I've ever experienced. So much so that it sent me into depression. However, I disagree with your conclusion. I believe the officer had no choice.
Is she just THAT stupid? Did her parents fail her that utterly?
The answer is, "Yes."
That cop should be suspended and retrained. If he can't control two weak 20 years old girls...what is he planning to do when those grappling skills (or lack of) will actually require him to subdue someone of same weight category?. Just twist that arm like a chicken wing and person will comply very quickly.
He certainly does need some more training in that department. The situation would never have escalated to the point that it did if he knew how to put someone down.
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Rule I've always tried to live by: When a man with a gun tells you to do something... you do it.
I think it's kind of funny how people cry and are shocked when they ignore/smart off to an officer and then get the resultant punishment for it. This whole thing actually could have been avoided if the little idiot woulda just done what the officer said and received her $40 j-walking ticket. I'm glad she got punched in the teeth.. I wish they would have tased her too.
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That cop should be suspended and retrained. If he can't control two weak 20 years old girls...what is he planning to do when those grappling skills (or lack of) will actually require him to subdue someone of same weight category?. Just twist that arm like a chicken wing and person will comply very quickly.
Where are you a police officer? Maybe you can do some CE for their dept and show them how real men do it.
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You never should touch a cop. Just come quietly.
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Cop did what he had to do. Now, of course Al Sharpton will come in and all this will become a "Cop was racist" thing, as he always tries to make every event a racial one.
I hope the Chief continues to back the cop, and not fall to the media/Sharpton bull that is bound to come.
<S> Oz
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Can't spray then taze it will catch on fire lol.
Please, oh please Cajon, tell me you know this from experience!! :rofl
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Watch Mythbusters?
http://www.youtube.com/user/DiscoveryNetworks#p/u/10/w8rVS20gzvc
http://www.youtube.com/user/DiscoveryNetworks#p/u/11/1PQwniTAgVQ
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Watch Mythbusters?
http://www.youtube.com/user/DiscoveryNetworks#p/u/10/w8rVS20gzvc
http://www.youtube.com/user/DiscoveryNetworks#p/u/11/1PQwniTAgVQ
Well i'll be damned!
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Where are you a police officer? Maybe you can do some CE for their dept and show them how real men do it.
He does have a point. That guy was struggling just to get that one tiny girls arm behind her. That is pretty sad.
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In my part time gig I apprehend shoplifters In my experience females are very hard to restrain, their center of gravity is different they are more flexible its hard to get them down. You also are trying to be mindful of the fact they are female and that people view them as the weaker sex wether they are or not. I have had to throw them to the ground and had to throw a knee strike or two never felt bad after because it was their choice to fight.
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I would say he probably had the ability to slam her down on the car and restrain her but didn't really want to injure her. He had control but probably didn't want to 1) be too violent with her with the other women around and 2) actually physically hurt her. That was the impression I got from it.
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He does have a point. That guy was struggling just to get that one tiny girls arm behind her. That is pretty sad.
The problem is he tried to control her using too little force. The kicker is that if he used the appropriate amount of force to get into a arm bar or other mechanical control hold they would be screaming police brutality, dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. And for those that thought this was excessive for "jaywalking", it went from "jaywalking" to obstruction as soon as she refused to comply with the direction from the officer. The officer did a good job under the circumstances and maintained his cool :aok
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I would say he probably had the ability to slam her down on the car and restrain her but didn't really want to injure her. He had control but probably didn't want to 1) be too violent with her with the other women around and 2) actually physically hurt her. That was the impression I got from it.
Ecellent statement. I was of the same impression.
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The problem is he tried to control her using too little force. The kicker is that if he used the appropriate amount of force to get into a arm bar or other mechanical control hold they would be screaming police brutality, dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. And for those that thought this was excessive for "jaywalking", it went from "jaywalking" to obstruction as soon as she refused to comply with the direction from the officer. The officer did a good job under the circumstances and maintained his cool :aok
+1
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The problem is he tried to control her using too little force. The kicker is that if he used the appropriate amount of force to get into a arm bar or other mechanical control hold they would be screaming police brutality, dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. And for those that thought this was excessive for "jaywalking", it went from "jaywalking" to obstruction as soon as she refused to comply with the direction from the officer. The officer did a good job under the circumstances and maintained his cool :aok
So punching her in a face....is "too little force". I repeat, he didn't have control of this situation. Return to school and relearn skill that are required as a lifeline in this business.
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So punching her in a face....is "too little force". I repeat, he didn't have control of this situation. Return to school and relearn skill that are required as a lifeline in this business.
Russian, it seemed like he gave them both plenty of chance to stop. But when that women put her hands on a cop, he feared for his life. As I have said like ten times, what if she had a knife on her? A gun?
-BigBOBCH
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The problem is he tried to control her using too little force. The kicker is that if he used the appropriate amount of force to get into a arm bar or other mechanical control hold they would be screaming police brutality, dammed if you do and dammed if you don't.
he already sissy punched the one girl in the nose. Whats the use in holding back after that?
Honestly the guy needs training. I do agree with what he done. But he could have got his bellybutton owned. He was lucky that day. And he better be glad it wasnt some 200 + lb man. Things would have got real ugly for him.
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The officer was being attacked by the two females and had every right to defend himself.I was in law enforcement for several years and it was crap like that caused me to leave.He shouldn't have punched her,if it would have been me she would have gotten a defensive strike with a PR 24,maced,or tazered.The Sharpstons and Jacksons will have this a full blown assault by a police officer!This country is needing a major overhaul in the law enforcement and it's border policies.Arizona tries to keep the illegal Mexicans out,and Obama wants to crucify them for it.Now we got a National park in Arizona that we can't go to because it's to dangerous,with all the illegal aliens and drug cartel crap going on.Get are military out of them toejame holes of Iraq and Afghanistan,And protect are borders like they should be.
The officer will probably get punished for using to much force,if he doesn't get fired outright.Sigh!
Dobey
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The officer was being attacked by the two females and had every right to defend himself.I was in law enforcement for several years and it was crap like that caused me to leave.He shouldn't have punched her,if it would have been me she would have gotten a defensive strike with a PR 24,maced,or tazered.The Sharpstons and Jacksons will have this a full blown assault by a police officer!This country is needing a major overhaul in the law enforcement and it's border policies.Arizona tries to keep the illegal Mexicans out,and Obama wants to crucify them for it.Now we got a National park in Arizona that we can't go to because it's to dangerous,with all the illegal aliens and drug cartel crap going on.Get are military out of them toejame holes of Iraq and Afghanistan,And protect are borders like they should be.
The officer will probably get punished for using to much force,if he doesn't get fired outright.Sigh!
Dobey
Use the Tazer! Use the Tazer!
I'da given her a wood shampoo, or maybe a broomhandle in the bunkie. I think maybe i'd like to use a maglite on her - or maybe put her in a hole in my basment and lower some lotion down to her on a rope.
"It rubs the lotion on it's skin..."
and if she crabbed about it, I'd yell, "you don't know real pain!"
Goodbye horses...
All this whining about a woman who refuses to repsoect the law makes me want to puke. Somebody needs to teach these people what real atrocities are. What a bunch of babies these urban dwellers are. I never thought I'd see it here in America but the US is ripe for a little bit of chaotic ultra-violence, just to, as Bukowski would say, give them a little taste of death. That usually gets the perspectives aligned more healthily.
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All this whining about a woman who refuses to repsoect the law makes me want to puke. Somebody needs to teach these people what real atrocities are. What a bunch of babies these urban dwellers are. I never thought I'd see it here in America but the US is ripe for a little bit of chaotic ultra-violence, just to, as Bukowski would say, give them a little taste of death. That usually gets the perspectives aligned more healthily.
Woo! First Bukowski post I've ever seen on this board!
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Woo! First Bukowski post I've ever seen on this board!
Buk knew his way around "the lifestyle" - those two women of which were probably something like an example - one way or the other. Or, for another look consider the old dude and the mouthy black dude on the bus. Most cops'll tell you, most of their "incidents" involve people with slightly spindled judgment.
Me, I no longer drink anything stronger than a low-carb Monster but could certainly tell you some stories from pre-'91.
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Never hit a lady..... which means these idiots were open game.
Poor parenting means others have to put up with their spawn. They should be fixed.
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Never hit a lady..... which means these idiots were open game.
Poor parenting means others have to put up with their spawn. They should be fixed.
Now Bukowski is accompanied by Darwin... and the answer is the same. I'd say it's unanimous. Maybe we can throw the Whale Wars kids into the meat grinder with 'em.
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If you'd like to help them maybe you can open your home or neighborhood to them. That way not all of us have to suffer. :)
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If you'd like to help them maybe you can open your home or neighborhood to them. That way not all of us have to suffer. :)
Oh, I want to help 'em all right.
Speaking of the Whale Wars kids, wouldn't it be cool if I could persuade a competing network to start another series in which a bunch of pro-Capitalist ex-sailors (I know just the right people for this) had their own series in which they harassed the harassers?
It'd be really over the top and quite the spectacle if, instead of using "peaceful methods" they just went in there guns blazing and slaughtered all the littel eco-fru-tays - but I wouldn't want to do time for the likes of that.
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So punching her in a face....is "too little force". I repeat, he didn't have control of this situation. Return to school and relearn skill that are required as a lifeline in this business.
I guess I should have clarified my post a little; I was referring to the first woman that he was trying to control. As soon as she started to resist his efforts to control her he should have used more force to control her and if t that means taking her to the ground hard then that is what needed to be done. He was trying to use minimal force to control her, it was not working and the longer it went on the greater likelihood of others becoming involved.
As for the second female, as soon as she stepped in and pushed him away from the one he was trying to control she should opened herself up to a hell of a lot more then that little pop on the beak.
The officer was in a difficult position, with two assailants to deal with along with a boisterous crowd that was getting jacked up.
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A couple of guys here already said it, but I agree.
It seems like he wasn't trying to harm her, he saw that the situation was getting out of hand and he regained control by his action.
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #14
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This is just horrible! That poor women should sue him and his department. These thugs need to learn they can't beat on honest citizens with impunity. :furious
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This is just horrible! That poor women should sue him and his department. These thugs need to learn they can't beat on honest citizens with impunity. :furious
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Its ok in Texas. :aok
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This is just horrible! That poor women should sue him and his department. These thugs need to learn they can't beat on honest citizens with impunity. :furious
I don't know if i should take you seriously, she deserved several punches, the other a good zap of electricity and the rest of those low-lifes that were around I'd start detaining them for interfering with the arrest by having pushing a camera into the face and cussing while getting that "lady" into the car.
They didn't get what they deserved, but at least they tasted it.
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Its ok in Texas. :aok
In my book ,it's okay here. :aok
BTW, I ran afoul of a new rule today. Specifically, the rule forbidding posts based on politics or race - which is good, since my post disavowed the use of such criteria as a credible argument.
As for the poster I'd say that banana at the bootom is leading a cheer - a cheer that says " rock on Officer - do what you need to do with those that refuse to obey the law or to respect the enforcers of that law. "
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If anything happens to the police officer from this then, it is pure chocolate goodness. If the Jacksons or that thug Sharpton get in volved and something happens to the L.E.O. Then that reitterates the glorification of the Chief of Police. I hope nothing happens to him and she gets the book..no the whole dammed library thown at her.
Also USRanger you said it best, WHOS NEXT?????
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He should have tazored both of them ..
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Guy probably got beat up in school and now gets off to beating on women. Typical police officer. He should be fired! Those poor women are begging him to stop and yet he continues to push and beat them. I cant believe the bystanders did nothing to help these girls. He probably has a quota on jaywalking tickets.
Even the National Black Police Association says the officer was wrong. So he must me!
Dr. Christopher Cooper states " The officer who cocked his arm back and punched the jaywalker showed a lack of understanding of the continuum of force paradigm and an inability to appropriately assess a police event." Dr. Cooper should know cause he was a Washington DC Police Officer and now is a civil rights attorney. :rofl sorry the last part got me! :rofl :rofl :rofl Scumbags!
:banana: Sad ain't it!
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Guy probably got beat up in school and now gets off to beating on women. Typical police officer. He should be fired! Those poor women are begging him to stop and yet he continues to push and beat them. I cant believe the bystanders did nothing to help these girls. He probably has a quota on jaywalking tickets.
Even the National Black Police Association says the officer was wrong. So he must me!
Dr. Christopher Cooper states " The officer who cocked his arm back and punched the jaywalker showed a lack of understanding of the continuum of force paradigm and an inability to appropriately assess a police event." Dr. Cooper should know cause he was a Washington DC Police Officer and now is a civil rights attorney. :rofl sorry the last part got me! :rofl :rofl :rofl Scumbags!
:banana: Sad ain't it!
You left out the part about leveraging our synergies to better implement the policing paradigm :D
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i agree with what he had to do... Although he needs to go lift some weights or somthin cause he couldnt even handle the one he cuffed :o It could of been worse... Can u say pepper spray tazer nite stick :cheers:
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Guy probably got beat up in school and now gets off to beating on women. Typical police officer. He should be fired! Those poor women are begging him to stop and yet he continues to push and beat them. I cant believe the bystanders did nothing to help these girls. He probably has a quota on jaywalking tickets.
Even the National Black Police Association says the officer was wrong. So he must me!
Dr. Christopher Cooper states " The officer who cocked his arm back and punched the jaywalker showed a lack of understanding of the continuum of force paradigm and an inability to appropriately assess a police event." Dr. Cooper should know cause he was a Washington DC Police Officer and now is a civil rights attorney. :rofl sorry the last part got me! :rofl :rofl :rofl Scumbags!
:banana: Sad ain't it!
they were risiting arrest...bottom line :O Get a clue..Why is there a national black police society? Police are police and ur not allowed to even touch them when there trying to do there job...
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If you watch closely, the loud behemoth in the pink stepped into and went "hands on" vs that LEO while he was engaged with the gal in the black. Once a perp' goes hands on, especially in a hostile environment, that LEO is going to (and has the SCOTUS on his/her side) preserve his/her safety. If any of you armchair officers think this guy went too far you are sadly mistaken. Notice how he stopped with the one punch and went "hard hands" once he was able to get that gal on the defense.
I'd be willing to bet that he received an bellybutton chewin' for striking her in the head because we were taught to not ever hit the head. He could just as easily delivered a nasty forearm blow to her chest and knocked her on her soft cushy bum.
I wore the star of a deputy from the fall of 2001 through the fall of 2007. I know how that kind of stuff happens and until you experience it first hand it is best those quick to lash their tongues be very cautious with your judgment. Did anyone see the Rodney King video? ... ... the entire video? Odds are, probably not. King made 6 of those guys look like rag dolls as he tossed them over the hood of the car and shrugged off punches and batons. But you didnt see that, the media only showed Coon whippin his ankles and thighs with a PR-24, which was (and sstill is) actually a legit "pain compliance" technique, but they didnt know he was high on PCP (PCP makes a person feel no pain).
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they were risiting arrest...bottom line :O Get a clue..Why is there a national black police society? Police are police and ur not allowed to even touch them when there trying to do there job...
Stop risiting my sarcasm! :banana:
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Did anyone see the Rodney King video?
I did, and the excerpts shown by the media were misleading in the extreme and devoid of the context that put King where he belonged - which was on the receiving end of a properly administered induction to submission. He fought and fought but the cops won, eventually. If it had been me, I'm not sure I'd've been so restrained. I'd've liked to have gotten all crazy, perhaps literally mopping the street with him around or drawing and quartering him with four police cars - maybe tieing him to a tree and using him for pitching target practice.
Some of these people - like those stupid women - have no concept of the seriousness of what they're doing but a couple of heads on pikes would damn well let them know. The cops should get medieval on some of those ayusses.
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These people that want to scream police brutality need to view some arrests from other countries. Some of these places it is known that the cops will beat the crap out of you as a matter of course during the arrest, depending on the crime. The Russians know how to do proper suspect take downs. :devil
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Russians excell in wrestling as well. I have learned quite a few Russian moves and they are all bone crushing on some level.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B44pSr0Gqt4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B44pSr0Gqt4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdn1LljEWq8&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdn1LljEWq8&feature=related)
Notice the throws.
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Russians excell in wrestling as well. I have learned quite a few Russian moves and they are all bone crushing on some level.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B44pSr0Gqt4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B44pSr0Gqt4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdn1LljEWq8&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdn1LljEWq8&feature=related)
Notice the throws.
How can you call that wrestling? There are no chairs being thrown. Where are the hot chicks? And what about the holds? No camel holds, piledrivers, or backbreakers... And where's Vince McMahon?
I'm not convinced. Your stuff looks fake - just a bunch of crotch-grabbin' 'mos.
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:rofl
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It's a type of camel hold PJ. :noid :rofl
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continuum of force paradigm
Ooh - great soundbite . I wonder what it means?
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See Rule #6
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Bad fbWldcat bad. Put a warning on that next time.
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You know, I have to concede that everyone I've ever know who was a high school or college wrestler - at least 4 men and 2 women - were all pretty solid athletes. One of the men was a little fireplug guy who, at one point, weighed 140 but was able to bench something like twice his weight - if I remember that correctly.
All that said, I'm not sure you want to sell the "pros" short since, based on my admittedly limited understanding and even more limiting viewing of the "sport", still have to be pretty decent stuntmen. Besides, that one angry mo laid Stossel out that one time. Remember, they've both got to make it look something like wrestling AND put on a show. My understanding, btw, is that the clownshow guys DO frequently get hurt - much like a big, longaired gay stage dancer might get hurt after slipping on some viscous liquid.
I wonder why they rule 5'd fbw? Seems a bit sensitive...
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Didn't watch all of the video but it was of injuries during wrestling.
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Wrestling was gay in ancient Greece, it's gay now.
(http://www.lordpanzer.com/images/wrestle.jpg)
;)
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Bad fbWldcat bad. Put a warning on that next time.
I actually wrestle so I'm used to seeing really bad injuries, I guess I should have put some warning up. Yeah, dislocations, breaks, it's just old stuff to me. Heck, I even have a broken wrist right now from the sport. Sorry guys, I'll put a warning next time.
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Wrestling was gay in ancient Greece, it's gay now.
(http://www.lordpanzer.com/images/wrestle.jpg)
;)
That's pretty good coming from a guy with "Hard" in his name. Still, looking at that pic, it does look a bit, uh, ,guh-aa-aaaay! It almost looks like one of 'em might have some blood snausage ticklin' his tonsils.
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Stop risiting my sarcasm! :banana:
:rofl