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Title: The next plane to be introduced/updated and shown on the front page...
Post by: Kazaa on June 23, 2010, 01:34:26 PM
Will be?

My guess, the Tempest.

Winner will feel like a total clairvoyant baller for the day.
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Post by: uptown on June 23, 2010, 01:36:29 PM
Beaufighter be my guess
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Post by: Mister Fork on June 23, 2010, 01:48:59 PM
He-111.  Just a sneaky feeling...
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Post by: IronDog on June 23, 2010, 01:50:49 PM
The 410 Hornisch
Dobey
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Post by: Kazaa on June 23, 2010, 01:51:45 PM
I'm just waiting for HiTech to get here... :x
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Post by: StokesAk on June 23, 2010, 01:54:25 PM
I am almost certain that the Lancaster will be remolded, the next new plane will be a bristol beaufighter.
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Post by: Baumer on June 23, 2010, 01:57:25 PM
As far as updating planes currently in the game I'm going out on a limb and calling a long shot.

wait for it..........


the.......



C-47!!!!!!
(http://www.air-and-space.com/19791218%20Pima%20Air%20Museum/03%20C-47%2041-7723%20Kilroy%20left%20side%20l.jpg)

Ok actually my guess is the next plane to be updated will be the A6M's, but I'd really like to see the FM-2 (and F4F) updated.

Hmmmm........  I wonder what the new plane will be.

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Post by: whipster22 on June 23, 2010, 02:01:29 PM
G4m2  :noid
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Post by: Guppy35 on June 23, 2010, 02:08:08 PM
I continue to hold out hope

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/TFmk10.jpg)
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Post by: Yeager on June 23, 2010, 02:38:27 PM
Add whatever new planes they want but please update the Yaks, B26 and Ju88.
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Post by: Ghosth on June 23, 2010, 02:46:03 PM
My moneys on Uptown, and when the Beaufighter does finally make its appearance, look out.
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Post by: waystin2 on June 23, 2010, 02:49:58 PM
Don't talk back!  Yakkity Yak-3!!! :banana:
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Post by: jolly22 on June 23, 2010, 02:53:55 PM
what i dont get... theres not much of a differenace between the beaufighter and the mossie.
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Post by: TwinBoom on June 23, 2010, 02:55:55 PM
H Model
(http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/4/1/6/1352614.jpg)
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Post by: allaire on June 23, 2010, 03:10:01 PM
WTH is a baller.  Pardon my ignorance of street.
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Post by: Nemisis on June 23, 2010, 03:18:35 PM
Slang for cool.

And I would love to see the P-38K, and the P-51H (yeah, yeah, I know).
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Post by: HighTone on June 23, 2010, 03:20:06 PM
The next new planes of course are going to be the Ki-43(II),Ki44 and the G4M.
I hope the next one updated are the Zekes, with the addition of the A6M3.
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Post by: cactuskooler on June 23, 2010, 03:21:35 PM
H Model
(http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/4/1/6/1352614.jpg)

Hear, hear!
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Post by: SunBat on June 23, 2010, 03:33:48 PM
Will be?

My guess, the Tempest.

Winner will feel like a total clairvoyant baller for the day.


Didn't they just redo the Tempest?   :headscratch:

I shink it vill be a German Iron sing.
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Post by: Krusty on June 23, 2010, 04:10:27 PM
A6Ms or F4Fs (or both?)
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Post by: humble on June 23, 2010, 04:11:44 PM
 :x :x :rock :pray :aok :banana: :airplane: :joystick:
Beaufighter be my guess
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Post by: Plazus on June 23, 2010, 04:20:41 PM
Slang for cool.

And I would love to see the P-38K, and the P-51H (yeah, yeah, I know).

P-38K saw no combat. Sorry.

He-111 would be nice. However, I feel that some of the current planes in the set need to be updated. Yaks, Tempest, P-40s, A6Ms, B-26, Ju88, FM2, F4F, and C.202/205 just to name a few.
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Post by: Wmaker on June 23, 2010, 04:23:03 PM
Hopefully it's either something Axis or Soviet.
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Post by: lyric1 on June 23, 2010, 04:23:33 PM
B29 :bolt:  :D
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Post by: Brooke on June 23, 2010, 04:24:33 PM
I'm pretty sure it will be the Piper J-3 Cub (the variant with the Gatling cannon).
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Post by: whiteman on June 23, 2010, 04:25:07 PM
Ki-43 and G4M
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Post by: chewie86 on June 23, 2010, 06:10:49 PM
MC.205, the tempest is a too much obvious guess in my opinion (I thought about the tempy too)
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Post by: grizz441 on June 23, 2010, 06:20:33 PM
WTH is a baller.  Pardon my ignorance of street.

A thug that has "made it" to the big time. Originally refered ball players that made it out of the streets to make millions as a pro ball player, but now is used to describe any thug that is living large.
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Post by: fudgums on June 23, 2010, 06:22:01 PM
F-22
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Post by: Beefcake on June 23, 2010, 06:23:17 PM
I hope it's either a new bomber or a bomber remodel (IE B26B)  :)
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Post by: BiPoLaR on June 23, 2010, 06:29:02 PM
jeep with a 5in attached to it  :noid
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Post by: cobia38 on June 23, 2010, 06:34:03 PM

  A-26
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Post by: Karnak on June 23, 2010, 07:42:02 PM
H Model
(http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/4/1/6/1352614.jpg)
All they'd need to do that is post a screen shot of the P-38G and label it a P-38H.  :P
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Post by: uptown on June 23, 2010, 09:10:17 PM
No one going to mention a WW1 plane huh? With only 4 models in the set......... :headscratch:
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Post by: Kazaa on June 23, 2010, 09:38:00 PM
No one going to mention a WW1 plane huh? With only 4 models in the set......... :headscratch:

We have WWI?
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Post by: sandwich on June 23, 2010, 09:42:58 PM
P-262   :D

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l273/woosle_2006/ThunderKitty.jpg)
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Post by: mensa180 on June 23, 2010, 09:47:59 PM
Hopefully it's either something Axis or Soviet.

+1
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Post by: TonyJoey on June 23, 2010, 10:15:35 PM
Ki-43
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Post by: Tordon22 on June 23, 2010, 10:45:44 PM
+1

I'm going to go with a -1 just to counter you. Back to square one!
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Post by: mensa180 on June 23, 2010, 11:24:51 PM
I'm going to go with a -1 just to counter you. Back to square one!

Whatever you say... CO.
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Post by: froger on June 24, 2010, 02:18:20 AM
like to see a door gunner option in the goon  :D






froger


oh ya .....Meteor please...
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Post by: Clone155 on June 24, 2010, 02:34:09 AM
The yaks. I can feel it in my bones.
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Post by: STEELE on June 24, 2010, 03:24:39 AM
Isn't the Beaufighter slower, less maneuverable than the Mossie? What does it do better?  Please Lawd let the new bird be the mighty FW190 A9! :rock
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Post by: RTHolmes on June 24, 2010, 07:01:57 AM
what i dont get... theres not much of a differenace between the beaufighter and the mossie.

Isn't the Beaufighter slower, less maneuverable than the Mossie? What does it do better?  Please Lawd let the new bird be the mighty FW190 A9! :rock

just to save guppy the trouble:
all you ever wanted to know about the Beau (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,255408.0.html)

:)
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Post by: Glen69 on June 24, 2010, 08:45:04 AM
The worst 3D model that's used the most is the C47, it really does need updating  :pray
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Post by: Reschke on June 24, 2010, 11:25:01 AM
Hopefully it's either something Axis or Soviet.

Soviet - Tu-2 or Pe-2/3
German - Hs-129
Japanese - Ki-43 and/or G4M
Britain - Bristol Beaufighter or Westland Whirlwind http://www.military.cz/british/air/war/fighter/whirlwind/whirlwind_en.htm (http://www.military.cz/british/air/war/fighter/whirlwind/whirlwind_en.htm)
American - C-46 Air Commando
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Post by: Soulyss on June 24, 2010, 11:40:55 AM
Whatever you say... CO.



ooooohhhhhh.... them's fightin' words Zap.
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Post by: oakranger on June 24, 2010, 11:58:58 AM
Isn't the Beaufighter slower, less maneuverable than the Mossie? What does it do better?  Please Lawd let the new bird be the mighty FW190 A9! :rock

Why have the 190-A9 when it was vary similar to the A8 and only limited numbers built?  Beaufighter saw a hell lot more action then the 190-a9 in both Pacific and European front. 
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Post by: TwinBoom on June 24, 2010, 02:38:12 PM
All they'd need to do that is post a screen shot of the P-38G and label it a P-38H.  :P

dont forget the higher horse power allison`s!!!!
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Post by: sandwich on June 24, 2010, 03:03:04 PM
Soviet - Tu-2 or Pe-2/3
German - Hs-129
Japanese - Ki-43 and/or G4M
Britain - Bristol Beaufighter or Westland Whirlwind http://www.military.cz/british/air/war/fighter/whirlwind/whirlwind_en.htm (http://www.military.cz/british/air/war/fighter/whirlwind/whirlwind_en.htm)
American - C-46 Air Commando

Yes please.  :aok
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Post by: Digr1 on June 24, 2010, 03:22:45 PM
I would like to see the DO-335 twin engines (one in front and one in back) came out late 44 and seen action but only 4 kills at end of war. Also noted to be the fastest prop plane in the War with a top speed of over 450 mph
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Post by: Digr1 on June 24, 2010, 03:29:24 PM
here is the DO-335

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdtzDZI0dAk&feature=related
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Post by: whiteman on June 24, 2010, 03:32:41 PM
never saw combat, but some one will say because there was an allied plane within 2 miles of one at some point it saw combat.
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Post by: Digr1 on June 24, 2010, 03:34:44 PM
 it did have 4 kills at the end of the War so it must of seen some action
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Post by: greens on June 24, 2010, 03:43:15 PM
No new plane just sum realism to the 50cals on the pony n jugs  :aok put the comet in to combat the 262 i think it is the comet.
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Post by: whiteman on June 24, 2010, 03:45:06 PM
it did have 4 kills at the end of the War so it must of seen some action

please give me the source for that.
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Post by: Kazaa on June 24, 2010, 04:24:56 PM
Please keep on track boys and girls, just one plane pick per person. :D
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Post by: whipster22 on June 24, 2010, 05:01:52 PM
G4M2 "betty"
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Post by: Reschke on June 24, 2010, 11:45:22 PM
it did have 4 kills at the end of the War so it must of seen some action

I want to see those sources that no one else has come forward with in the past 60 years to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Do-335 did in fact have 4 confirmed kills of someone other than test pilots.
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Post by: Guppy35 on June 24, 2010, 11:57:50 PM
just to save guppy the trouble:
all you ever wanted to know about the Beau (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,255408.0.html)

:)

I was getting all wound up too :)

Heaven forbid AH get a bird that isn't the latest and greatest!  Is there another WW2 fighter or attack bird that flew front line combat from 40-45 in the ETO, MTO, CBI and PTO that isn't in AH besides the Beau?

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Post by: TinmanX on June 25, 2010, 12:11:26 AM
The most out-dated model in the game is obviously the A6M2 and 5. I would love for these to be updated but my bias toward this is absurd.
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Post by: Digr1 on June 25, 2010, 10:58:38 AM
I want to see those sources that no one else has come forward with in the past 60 years to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Do-335 did in fact have 4 confirmed kills of someone other than test pilots.

Read Squadron Publication DO-335
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Post by: Nemisis on June 25, 2010, 12:19:21 PM
I demand the IAR.80M  :noid.
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Post by: Guppy35 on June 25, 2010, 12:48:40 PM
Read Squadron Publication DO-335

Gotta do better then that.  What was Squadron Publications source for that info? 
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Post by: Tilt on June 25, 2010, 01:46:43 PM
Yaks please

1-b, 7-b, 9D, 9T, 9U, 3...............
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Post by: fbWldcat on June 25, 2010, 02:08:14 PM
A6M2 and A6M5b

with the addition of A6M3 :pray :banana:
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Post by: FireDrgn on June 25, 2010, 02:17:09 PM
Yak3............   and can i get a blender  like the 38 guys have.?
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Post by: Volron on June 25, 2010, 02:19:42 PM
Aside from the massive remodeling to a LOT of the planes (particularly our bombers)....


He-111 H-11

If this was the next plane to be added, I'd dedicate an entire tour to solely flying it.  :salute Which also means that most of the deaths in it will likely be from me.  :x  :rofl
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Post by: Reschke on June 25, 2010, 03:30:45 PM
Gotta do better then that.  What was Squadron Publications source for that info?  

+1 Show me their source material on the matter and I will be more inclined to agree with you there Digr1. Besides that I wish the plane was in the game but it ain't likely to happen!

OH BTW I want to add to the wish list I have.

KI-45 Nick
J1-Nick
J2M -Jack
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Post by: Digr1 on June 25, 2010, 06:50:39 PM
+1 Show me their source material on the matter and I will be more inclined to agree with you there Digr1. Besides that I wish the plane was in the game but it ain't likely to happen!

OH BTW I want to add to the wish list I have.

KI-45 Nick
J1-Nick
J2M -Jack
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I said where I read it about 12 years ago yet when I said where I read the info I was asked where the source got its info. Arguing with a name Im gonn a drop it because if I looked further ito it I would need the paper from the RML to satisfy you and it not that important
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Post by: BrownBaron on June 25, 2010, 08:00:09 PM
I'm hoping for a He 177...
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Post by: shreck on June 25, 2010, 08:23:15 PM
Westland Whirlwind  :aok                                                                 :bolt:
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Post by: lyric1 on June 25, 2010, 08:33:17 PM
Is there another WW2 fighter or attack bird that flew front line combat from 40-45 in the ETO, MTO, CBI and PTO that isn't in AH besides the Beau?


:headscratch: No & that is why we should have at least 3-5 different models when we do get it for all era's. :aok
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Post by: Ack-Ack on June 25, 2010, 08:41:20 PM
it did have 4 kills at the end of the War so it must of seen some action

There are no records of any kills by a Do-335.  The only official Allied account of the encounter was at the hands of a French ace flying Typhoons when he and his flight encountered one at low altitude.  The Typhoons then dove to intercept the Do-335 only to have the Dornier turn and rapidly accelerate away, the Typhoons never got within gun range.

Besides, the Do-335 never saw operational service nor did it enter into production.  Only around 13-15 preproduction models were built before the Allies overran the Dornier factory.

If there are any Soviet records of any encounters they've had with the Do-335 then they must be still keeping them as state secrets because there aren't any official reports of Soviet pilots ever encountering a Pfeil in combat.

ack-ack
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Post by: RTHolmes on June 25, 2010, 09:26:57 PM
Westland Whirlwind  :aok                                                                 :bolt:

yes :aok
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Post by: bravoa8 on June 25, 2010, 09:36:35 PM
An F35... :lol
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Post by: Guppy35 on June 25, 2010, 10:57:52 PM
I said where I read it about 12 years ago yet when I said where I read the info I was asked where the source got its info. Arguing with a name Im gonn a drop it because if I looked further ito it I would need the paper from the RML to satisfy you and it not that important

It's not about picking on you Digr1, it's about getting it right.  One source is never enough.  Squadron Publications are good to a point, but they get their info from a variety of sources and aren't always accurate.

One of the best known of the early WW2 aircraft experts, William Green wrote some stuff early on about the 190D9.  Because it was William Green, folks took it as gospel and quoted it often to the point it got to be fact.  Then some folks who were specifically interested in the D9 started to dig deeper and couldn't find any other confirmation of the info beyond William Green.  Turns out he was wrong.  Not deliberately, but he'd gotten the info wrong to begin with. 

Once source is never enough, in particular when it's just a general history like the Squadron Publications stuff.
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Post by: jolly22 on June 25, 2010, 11:10:57 PM
I would personally like to see the Ki-43, the G4M2,boomerang, OR the HE-177...

The beau is practically the same as the mossie, and the A26 is practically the same as the A20.. So i say no to those, sorry.
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Post by: Guppy35 on June 25, 2010, 11:39:34 PM
I would personally like to see the Ki-43, the G4M2,boomerang, OR the HE-177...

The beau is practically the same as the mossie...

Them's fighting words!  :)

Suggest a bit of reading on both the Beau and Mossie before you make that statement.  Might have to get Karnak on the job too!
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Post by: Boozeman on June 26, 2010, 06:43:58 AM
Update: C202/C205
Introduced: G.55

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Post by: Delirium on June 26, 2010, 08:23:57 AM
I know I'm dead wrong, but adding the Boulton Defiant could be a lot of fun.

I have fond memories gunning for Soulyss's Kate, this shiould be even better.
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Post by: mechanic on June 26, 2010, 08:36:35 AM
Agreed Del! That would be sweet, basically a slightly better Ju87 with a quad tail gun.  :rock
 I really love gunning for Snaphook in his A20, even though I can't hit a thing.

And to those who think the mossie and beau are the same......  :O  :mad:

spot the difference? (shakes head in shame)

(http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/mosquito.jpg)

(http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/imgs/bristol-beaufighter.jpg)


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Post by: Wmaker on June 26, 2010, 08:48:32 AM
And to those who think the mossie and beau are the same......  :O  :mad:

Yeh, except Torbedo bombing, Mossie is a hell of a lot more capable aircraft than Beaufighter will ever be. :)
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Post by: fbWldcat on June 26, 2010, 08:49:58 AM
Different engines, canopy in mossie isn't built into the fuselage like the Beaufighter, mossie canopy protrudes a bit, and I think.... YES! There is a tailgunner! Did I put that into small enough words?
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Post by: mechanic on June 26, 2010, 08:52:38 AM
Yeh, except Torbedo bombing, Mossie is a hell of a lot more capable aircraft than Beaufighter will ever be. :)


shhh, guppy might hear us
 :noid
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Post by: Baumer on June 26, 2010, 11:11:06 AM
spot the difference? (shakes head in shame)

Ummm.... the first one's in color, and the second's black and white?    :confused:

 :lol jk

Is torbedo bombing what happens after to much FlakPanzerOil? 

 :cheers:
(http://332nd.org/dogs/baumer/BBS%20Stuff/FPO.JPG)
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Post by: Guppy35 on June 26, 2010, 11:15:35 AM
Yeh, except Torbedo bombing, Mossie is a hell of a lot more capable aircraft than Beaufighter will ever be. :)

Which would make the Beau that much more fun :)

Clearly the Brewster not being uber never stopped the Finns :aok
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Post by: Fatboy26 on June 26, 2010, 11:43:03 AM
Me410B-2/U4

Cause I asked nicely
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Post by: Digr1 on June 26, 2010, 05:22:06 PM
It's not about picking on you Digr1, it's about getting it right.  One source is never enough.  Squadron Publications are good to a point, but they get their info from a variety of sources and aren't always accurate.

One of the best known of the early WW2 aircraft experts, William Green wrote some stuff early on about the 190D9.  Because it was William Green, folks took it as gospel and quoted it often to the point it got to be fact.  Then some folks who were specifically interested in the D9 started to dig deeper and couldn't find any other confirmation of the info beyond William Green.  Turns out he was wrong.  Not deliberately, but he'd gotten the info wrong to begin with. 

Once source is never enough, in particular when it's just a general history like the Squadron Publications stuff.

I know I said I was gonna drop this but you asked a good question Squadron Publications is about WWII aircraft history includiing records, pilots, and markings, Ther is about 5 pages of Bibliogrophry on thier research but I dont read them, that is where they get there info.
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Post by: sparow on June 26, 2010, 07:41:41 PM
Hi chaps!

I'm a long time He-111 lobbyist... I would like to see this model in AH next. But I concede that the G4M might have more "operational" use... or maybe not...

Cheers,
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Post by: Reschke on June 26, 2010, 07:56:28 PM
I said where I read it about 12 years ago yet when I said where I read the info I was asked where the source got its info. Arguing with a name Im gonn a drop it because if I looked further ito it I would need the paper from the RML to satisfy you and it not that important

As one other said no one is picking on you here its just a known fact that Squadron Publications aren't the gospel...as for an RLM document yep those would be the holy grail for acceptance of an aircraft in particular one like the Do-335. The problem there is that there is probably close to a 100% chance that those documents never existed or if they did were lost at the end of the war. The RLM was meticulous in documenting kills for pilots and it often took several weeks/months or more to confirm kills for claims by a pilot.
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Post by: Guppy35 on June 26, 2010, 08:03:34 PM
I know I said I was gonna drop this but you asked a good question Squadron Publications is about WWII aircraft history includiing records, pilots, and markings, Ther is about 5 pages of Bibliogrophry on thier research but I dont read them, that is where they get there info.

I have any number of thier books on my shelf, along with a zillion others :)

A good example of one of their mistakes is their profile of Willard Millikan's P51B Mustang.  It has invasion stripes painted on it.  Corgi did a diecast of the same bird and no doubt used that source with the invasion stripes.  Problem is, Millikan was shot down in May, prior to D-Day and the invasion stripes being painted on.  There are others, but I'm at work and don't have access to my books at the moment.

They can be a good reference.  The point still remains that it's always better to have more then one source.  I tend to look for three sources independent of each other.  The Do-335 stuff is one of those bits that would be better served with more then one source.
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Post by: Karnak on June 26, 2010, 10:23:57 PM
re: Mossie vs Beau:

Obviously there is crossover between the two, however consider this:

What if the Mosquito, by your argument the same as the Beaufighter, were used as a stand in for the Beaufighter in a 1941 scenario.  Tell me, what do the Germans do about said Mosquitos?  You are talking about an attack aircraft that does 357mph on the deck in AH, 40mph more than the Beaufighter does at best altitude.  Clearly the mid-1943 Mosquito has no place in a 1941 setup, the Germans couldn't do anything about it.

Though there are large crossovers in the roles and tasks assigned to the Mosquito and Beaufighter, there are significant differences.  The Mosquito was the successor to the Beaufighter in many ways, but it never fully replaced it.  As durable as the Mosquito was, it does not have the reputation for toughness the Beaufighter had.  Obviously the performance of the Mosquito is far, far superior to the Beaufighter's as can be expected from an aircraft a generation more modern.  In addition, the Beaufighter served the entire war, in all theaters other than the East Front and had none of the structural problems the Mosquito had in the CBI and Pacific Theaters.

The Mosquito and Beaufighter compliment each other in much the same way the Spitfire and Hurricane do.
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Post by: Guppy35 on June 26, 2010, 11:28:56 PM
<hands $20 to Karnak>

Yeah!  What he said! :)
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Post by: Kev367th on June 27, 2010, 04:02:05 AM
Slightly OT but as you are watching this thread Dan -
The Spit IX that went to the US and returned via Iceland (where it got very striking noseart "Tolly Hello").
What happened to it on its return to the UK?
I know it was eventually scrapped, but any active service?

Ta.

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Post by: Tilt on June 27, 2010, 05:53:03 AM
I struggle to see the special role that the beau would have in the MA that would enhance gameplay other than the fact that it would be another ride........... I also struggle to see how  it is a plane of sufficient popularity that it would become a signature ride (like the Brewster) or ride of preference for the vast majority of subscribers.

So in the MA it would take on the status of a Hanger Queen.

Well thats Ok. If we are to have variety then we will have some rides used less than others. The beau could be utilised in scenarios and special events designed accordingly and be quite fun.

But lets not fool ourselves that its benefit is greater than  this. There are still many rides that could be added that would be far more influential re gameplay and scenario development.
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Post by: 1pLUs44 on June 27, 2010, 06:02:28 AM
P-40s and A6Ms  :rock :pray
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Post by: Wmaker on June 27, 2010, 10:48:29 AM
Yeh, except Torbedo bombing, Mossie is a hell of a lot more capable aircraft than Beaufighter will ever be. :)

I see that in drunken haze, the little troll in me rears it's ugly head. :) Sorry guys. :) Beaufighter is one cool combat aircraft.



Anyway, about the next new plane...

I just feel that Ki-43 is the obvious choise.

Here are the new WWII planes added during AHII times:

Ki-84-Ia
B-24J
P-38G
P-38J
F4U-1A
P-47N
Bf109G-14
Spitfire XVI
Spitfire VIII
B-25C
B-25H
P-39D
P-39Q
I-16
Brewster
P-47M

...that makes 3 axis and 13 (!!) allied rides.

IMO There should be quite a few Soviet and Axis rides added before a single new Western Allied plane. I just try to look at the issue as objectively as possible. If we'd have a bloated IJN/IJAAF/VSS planeset and only few USAAF/USN rides I would be asking for them instead.

So my guess is Ki-43...or if it's gonna be a remodel it will probably be the Zekes.
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Post by: Guppy35 on June 27, 2010, 01:26:19 PM
I struggle to see the special role that the beau would have in the MA that would enhance gameplay other than the fact that it would be another ride........... I also struggle to see how  it is a plane of sufficient popularity that it would become a signature ride (like the Brewster) or ride of preference for the vast majority of subscribers.

So in the MA it would take on the status of a Hanger Queen.

Well thats Ok. If we are to have variety then we will have some rides used less than others. The beau could be utilised in scenarios and special events designed accordingly and be quite fun.

But lets not fool ourselves that its benefit is greater than  this. There are still many rides that could be added that would be far more influential re gameplay and scenario development.

I never claimed it to be uber.  I do believe it will get more use in the MA then you suggest.  I always tend to look at it from the history end of things and the Beau's record from 40-45 makes it a significant player missing from the game.  I'd also agree that this applies to the Ki-43.
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Post by: Fencer51 on June 27, 2010, 07:28:54 PM
Well we are about to start a new Scenario, and typically that is when we get an update!  (anything Japanese would be great)

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Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on June 27, 2010, 08:23:26 PM
With all due respect....HTC, listen up please , all of the oldest plane models must be updated asap, otherwise there will always be "parts' of the game that are still aceshigh1 standard.

The C-47, used and flown in almost EVERY base or port capture, used to refill gv's and the likes, and still has some of the oldest graphics.



So far, with every plane getting a face lift, they have also changed slightly in how they handle and perform, it is in that notion that even a A/C that has been "redone" is still in many ways "new".


Please htc, ditch the old models & flight models, right now you have some a/c with 2001 models and flight models, vs. 2010, bit of a split.

sry to sound so demanding, just..an idea.

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Post by: Nemisis on June 28, 2010, 01:31:27 PM
Ki-84-Ia
B-24J
P-38G
P-38J
F4U-1A
P-47N
Bf109G-14
Spitfire XVI
Spitfire VIII
B-25C
B-25H
P-39D
P-39Q
I-16
Brewster
P-47M

...that makes 3 axis and 13 (!!) allied rides


I think it has to do with the fact that the Allies had more aircraft that saw a good bit of service. We pretty much have the German fighters that saw a lot of service covered (190, 109, 110). I mean hell, we have th Ta-152, and it had what, 9 kills total?
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Post by: Die Hard on June 28, 2010, 02:10:17 PM
I probably has more to do with HTC trying to improve the game in a way that translates to a better selling product. Adding a plane that most people in HTC's core market doesn't know or care about is not a sound business choice. At least not as long as there are more popular choices to be made.
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Post by: Wmaker on June 28, 2010, 02:49:41 PM
I think it has to do with the fact that the Allies had more aircraft that saw a good bit of service. We pretty much have the German fighters that saw a lot of service covered (190, 109, 110). I mean hell, we have th Ta-152, and it had what, 9 kills total?

There are plenty of axis aircraft to add that saw considerable use. I'm quite sure that the major reason for adding the Ta-152 was the implementation of the perk system. It came out as one of the first perk planes along with the Tempest and both were good perk plane choises at the time IMO.


I probably has more to do with HTC trying to improve the game in a way that translates to a better selling product. Adding a plane that most people in HTC's core market doesn't know or care about is not a sound business choice. At least not as long as there are more popular choices to be made.

Totally agree and there really isn't anything wrong with it. I just hope that now that we have more than just the major a/c in place for the USAAF/USN planeset, we'll be seeing more aixs aircraft/more aircraft geared toward Special Events the next time totally new airframes are added. I am very glad for the addition of the Brewster and the I-16 and given what we have in the planeset and what we don't have, I hope that this trend will continue in the near future.
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Post by: whipster22 on June 28, 2010, 05:32:48 PM
so far the Japanese plane set has only two aces high 2 models the N1K2-J and Ki-84 1a

It is in a sad state
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Post by: Nemisis on June 28, 2010, 08:11:42 PM
Well Wmaker, I can't really think of any brand new german fighters (as opposed to a new model 190 or 109) unless I'm forgeting some. Bombers? sure. Japanese planes? sure.
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Post by: Wmaker on June 28, 2010, 09:11:01 PM
Well Wmaker, I can't really think of any brand new german fighters (as opposed to a new model 190 or 109) unless I'm forgeting some. Bombers? sure. Japanese planes? sure.

Well the Me410 is one and even though it's my favourite, it's not really "a priority". Beaufighter for example is far more significant historically. Me410 would in turn have more MA-ultility value. But I wasn't really asking for German fighters...or even bombers right now. :) He-111 would be great of course and Ju-188/He-177 would have MA-value.

Here's a few new planes that are "the most urgent" in my opinion:

Ki-43
Pe-2
D4Y
Yak-1/3 -family
G4M

Again, just my opinion. :)

...The next few planes could be geared more towards MA-use and I think Yak-3 would see its share of use in the MA too.
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Post by: Lusche on June 28, 2010, 09:59:19 PM
Gaping holes in AM set coming to my mind:

Early war Japanese fighter - Ki-43
Early war Japanese Bomber - G4M
Any Soviet bomber
A mid/late war German bomber (Do 217/Ju 188)
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Post by: Karnak on June 28, 2010, 10:47:02 PM
Gaping holes in AM set coming to my mind:

Early war Japanese fighter - Ki-43
Early war Japanese Bomber - G4M
Any Soviet bomber
A mid/late war German bomber (Do 217/Ju 188)
Mid-War Japanese CV strike aircraft - D4Y/B6N
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Post by: Fatboy26 on June 29, 2010, 02:37:21 AM
Well Wmaker, I can't really think of any brand new german fighters (as opposed to a new model 190 or 109) unless I'm forgeting some. Bombers? sure. Japanese planes? sure.

I demand the 410, if I don't get it.....I'll just keep upping 110's....sigh
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Post by: Volron on June 29, 2010, 03:12:24 AM
Here is a toss out:

Heinkel He-162 Salamander  AKA: Sparrow  :devil

On a side note, I'm kinda surprised that the forum auto spell check thingy does not recognize Heinkel as a correct word.  :noid
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Post by: slayer1 on June 29, 2010, 03:17:55 AM
F-22

wtf!? the f-22 isnt in WW2!! do you have an in-animate object as a brain!? the f-22 was introduced in late 2004 :old:
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Post by: Simba on June 29, 2010, 04:32:26 AM
Avro Anson, anybody?

(ducks the brickbats and scorn  ;) )

Fairey Swordfish for this ol' cat, plus any other of the British Fleet Air Arm aircraft: Skua, Barracuda, Firefly, et al.

Or maybe Sandwich's amazing P-262 - nice one!

(ducks again)

OK, OK, let's get serious.

Nakajima Ki-43-II 'Oscar': the numerically most important IJAAF aircraft of the war, its continuing absence is the most glaring gap in the AH flightline.

 :cool:





 

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Post by: EskimoJoe on June 29, 2010, 04:39:14 AM
wtf!? the f-22 isnt in WW2!! do you have an in-animate object as a brain!? the f-22 was introduced in late 2004 :old:

Well, we have the RV-8 in-game already, and that first flew in 1995. What's to stop us from having the F-22? Other than HTC of course  :joystick:
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Post by: jolly22 on June 29, 2010, 07:00:24 AM
Here are the new WWII planes added during AHII times:

Ki-84-Ia
B-24J
P-38G
P-38J
F4U-1A
P-47N
Bf109G-14
Spitfire XVI
Spitfire VIII
B-25C
B-25H
P-39D
P-39Q
I-16
Brewster
P-47M

...that makes 3 axis and 13 (!!) allied

And only 3 bombers! Why not have both an axis plane and a bomber!! THE HE-177
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Post by: uptown on June 29, 2010, 07:20:24 AM
I hope that the next things added won't be limited to just one plane. I have to agree that the Japanese, Russian, Italian and even the German planes set is lacking compared the Allied set.
I'm sure HTC will add what they can, when they can. But man, it must be a huge pain in the arse to get cockpit views, FMs, guns, damage models..all that together and correct. I'm just thankful they have my planes of choice already added.
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Post by: fbWldcat on June 29, 2010, 09:20:38 AM
I think it would be cool to superperk a semi-modern fighter, F4 phantom anyone?  :cool:
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Post by: Rino on June 29, 2010, 09:31:47 AM
I think it would be cool to superperk a semi-modern fighter, F4 phantom anyone?  :cool:

     I think 1958 just might be pushing the limits a tad.  Nice choice though  :aok
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Post by: fbWldcat on June 29, 2010, 09:34:53 AM
     I think 1958 just might be pushing the limits a tad.  Nice choice though  :aok

F-80 Shooting star?  :x :x :x

Lol. I saw a renovated one fly over my house yesterday, only noticed it because it threw on afterburners. I guess it was a new engine.  :x
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Post by: Mano on June 30, 2010, 02:59:06 PM
The next plane?

That's easy.

..

(http://www.airmuseumsuk.org/airshow/2004/Rougham2004/800/images/203%20RAF%20SE5a%20replica%20G-BUWE.jpg)

..

 :aok
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Post by: Nemisis on June 30, 2010, 03:56:10 PM
No new WW1 crap. That arenas a bust; it usually has what? 2-3 people in it?

The ONLY think WW1 is good for is as a testing ground for new damage models and stuff like that.
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Post by: Scherf on June 30, 2010, 04:09:28 PM
Which is a real shame, given the work that went into it, and the initial enthusiasm. HTC might have gotten more bang for their development buck if they'd done the Do 335.
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Post by: Plazus on June 30, 2010, 04:14:11 PM
Which is a real shame, given the work that went into it, and the initial enthusiasm. HTC might have gotten more bang for their development buck if they'd done the Do 335.

I doubt that. If anything, it would be the updating of the existing WW2 aircraft as well as updating the sky (clouds, sun, etc.).
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Post by: Nemisis on June 30, 2010, 06:30:16 PM
I'm with Plazus. Might as well bring everything upto date.
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Post by: Kazaa on July 02, 2010, 10:35:48 AM
Fingers crossed that we have a new plane teaser some time next week.
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Post by: DrBone1 on July 02, 2010, 10:44:15 AM
Fingers crossed that we have a new plane teaser some time next week.
:aok
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Post by: PanosGR on July 02, 2010, 12:21:32 PM
No new WW1 crap. That arenas a bust; it usually has what? 2-3 people in it?

The ONLY think WW1 is good for is as a testing ground for new damage models and stuff like that.

BSx100
don't think its up to u to judge which is crap and which is not when it comes to other ppls fun. if u don't like WWI dint fly in WWI. it is so simple.
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Post by: Nemisis on July 02, 2010, 12:34:35 PM
The players have voted Panos. The 2-3 players in WWI got out voted  :P.
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Post by: jolly22 on July 05, 2010, 12:09:42 AM
B26 needs a new model update. Looks really out of date.
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Post by: Karnak on July 05, 2010, 12:13:18 AM
B26 needs a new model update. Looks really out of date.
Agreed, as do the other AH v1.0 models, the C-47 and C.205.
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Post by: wgmount on July 05, 2010, 01:09:31 AM
G4M the Japanese need a Bomber represented.
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Post by: Volron on July 05, 2010, 01:36:31 AM
It is tough, if you think about it, to have to decided on which should be done next. On the one hand, you have the badly needed remodel of more than a few planes, but on the other hand, you have the demand to add certain planes to make FSO and other special events, a lot better than they are with our current lineup, not to mention more historically accurate (I'm not gonna bother trying to factor in MA, though it is a major factor in itself as well).  If you go all on remodel, you'll see more than a few complaints about not having specific ac that would enhance special events.  If you go all for addition of ac, you will see the complaints about our current line up needing to be remodeled.  They are having to balance the two while at the same time, pushing Aces High to a new level.

Let's see, they just did a remodel of the Mossy, added two tanks, brought back small hills and made a change to the dar system.  Currently, they are in the process of updating the towns and fields, and adding a new manned gun.  My guess is they will be adding either a bomber or an attack plane.

After this update, I would say that a remodel of either a fighter or a bomber (or maybe 1 of each), would come next.  Those of you who have played AH since it was created, which plane has been in the line up the longest, that hasn't been updated and is quite popular?  Chances are, they will be remodeling that.
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Post by: Kazaa on July 05, 2010, 08:37:03 AM
Who has the Jedi ability to see into the future? We'll soon find out.
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Post by: Chilli on July 05, 2010, 12:05:04 PM
No new WW1 crap. That arenas a bust; it usually has what? 2-3 people in it?

The ONLY think WW1 is good for is as a testing ground for new damage models and stuff like that.

I have to disagree with you.  The number of players only represents it's stage in production.  The WWI arena can and will go a LONG way.  Remember the first time you tasted beer?  :huh  Numbers in the arena is not representative of how much fun one can have.  I would prefer two or three players having an honest engagement, to 3 versus 1 odds. 

WWI arena has a lot of room for growth.  I have no problem with the addition of some popular WWI plane additions.  New maps, planes and a whole new set of ACM rules.  After a while you have an acquired taste.  :cheers:

The list in WW2 is too long for plane additions to make it out of the hangar all that much, unless it is another Bf109 K4 type addition.  Honestly, I am tired of seeing that thing in the main arena, and I enjoy flying it.  New objects and maps  :aok all the arenas can benefit from. 

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Post by: jimson on July 05, 2010, 12:38:37 PM
The one area where most substitution occurs in scenarios etc is within the Japanese equipment set.

I can scarcely believe we still don't have the Hayabusa, or the Betty, and we have zero Japanese vehicles.

I would also like to see country appropriate troop transports. For these, just use the C47 flight model with different graphics.

However I am a scenario kind of guy, my ideas won't help the main arenas much.
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Post by: Liberator on July 05, 2010, 02:59:15 PM
I'm hoping for an updated C-47.  :pray
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Post by: jolly22 on July 05, 2010, 03:19:23 PM
The c47 ain't worth it.....  if it was to get an update it should have the top turret gun and maybe a surprise rato :airplane:
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Post by: BulletVI on July 05, 2010, 03:20:49 PM
re: Mossie vs Beau:

Obviously there is crossover between the two, however consider this:

What if the Mosquito, by your argument the same as the Beaufighter, were used as a stand in for the Beaufighter in a 1941 scenario.  Tell me, what do the Germans do about said Mosquitos?  You are talking about an attack aircraft that does 357mph on the deck in AH, 40mph more than the Beaufighter does at best altitude.  Clearly the mid-1943 Mosquito has no place in a 1941 setup, the Germans couldn't do anything about it.

Though there are large crossovers in the roles and tasks assigned to the Mosquito and Beaufighter, there are significant differences.  The Mosquito was the successor to the Beaufighter in many ways, but it never fully replaced it.  As durable as the Mosquito was, it does not have the reputation for toughness the Beaufighter had.  Obviously the performance of the Mosquito is far, far superior to the Beaufighter's as can be expected from an aircraft a generation more modern.  In addition, the Beaufighter served the entire war, in all theaters other than the East Front and had none of the structural problems the Mosquito had in the CBI and Pacific Theaters.

The Mosquito and Beaufighter compliment each other in much the same way the Spitfire and Hurricane do.


I agree the  Beufighter is slower but a slower aircraft tends to turn tighter but all said when some of the Squadrons converted from the Beufighter to the Mossi and after a few operation's some squadron's commented that why didn't they just take the Merlin Engine's from the Mossi and Put them on the Beufighter???? But hey they where pilot's. But also looking at it from a simple point of view. The problem was Malta !!!!! You may find that when Squadrons in the UK converted to the Mossi Most of the Beufighter's in the UK where converted to Torpedo version's and all re-serviced and Shipped out to Malta to Replace the Battered and Bruised Beufighter's in Malta. And most where shipped out to Australia and India To combat the Japanese.

I believe this was the probable thinking of the Senior RAF comander's at the time as they Probably knew that there was a chance of the glue on the Mossi Melting in the warmer climate's. Witch i do believe that year's ago in history lessons i did read of that happening in a book of the Mossi's History.

HuH people can check it out if they like.

But i say The new plane is either an Se-a5 WW1 or the Beufighter or He-111 Or The Donnier ( early Battle of Britain Model )  :salute
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Post by: Bruv119 on July 05, 2010, 04:37:30 PM
I watched a really good documentary the other night about 303 Squadron.   

I really would like to see the HE-111 added so we can remember those brave poles who tore them a new one    :salute
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Post by: Nemisis on July 05, 2010, 06:43:07 PM
I demand the following additions  :noid:

Hetzer
SdKfz 251/22
SdKfz 251/21
Archer
Jagdpanzer
Jagdpanther
Chuchill Mk I and Mk IV


Betty
Pe-8
Yak-3
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Post by: StokesAk on July 05, 2010, 07:06:37 PM
Why so many GV's?
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Post by: crazierthanu on July 05, 2010, 07:07:50 PM
Why so many GV's?
I dont understand either.
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Post by: Belial on July 05, 2010, 07:08:38 PM
M-18 and the Panther


Nuff said :aok
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Post by: Paladin3 on July 05, 2010, 07:35:34 PM
There are quite a few folks who just like to GV, and that is great - I think it would be awesome to add a few more things to the mix for those folks.
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Post by: chewie86 on July 06, 2010, 10:01:57 AM
tried to talk to master Yoda again... but... he wasn't focused enough this time.

(http://www.lostpixie.com/gallery/newones/Yoda-Dope.jpg)
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Post by: Glen69 on July 06, 2010, 11:20:07 AM
As well as a remodelled C47, praying for those Studebaker trucks for sups and troops or the M10
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/53/Aberdean_proving_grounds_036.JPG/800px-Aberdean_proving_grounds_036.JPG)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3590/3315545433_3edde49ede.jpg)
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Post by: perdue3 on July 06, 2010, 11:22:46 AM
Hopefully,

(http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/YankeeAirMuseum2006/Highlights/Ju52Tom2006.jpg)

Its needed.







perdweeb
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Post by: jollyFE on July 06, 2010, 12:00:16 PM
Beau = ugly

Mossie = sexy
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Post by: Guppy35 on July 06, 2010, 12:24:36 PM

I agree the  Beufighter is slower but a slower aircraft tends to turn tighter but all said when some of the Squadrons converted from the Beufighter to the Mossi and after a few operation's some squadron's commented that why didn't they just take the Merlin Engine's from the Mossi and Put them on the Beufighter???? But hey they where pilot's. But also looking at it from a simple point of view. The problem was Malta !!!!! You may find that when Squadrons in the UK converted to the Mossi Most of the Beufighter's in the UK where converted to Torpedo version's and all re-serviced and Shipped out to Malta to Replace the Battered and Bruised Beufighter's in Malta. And most where shipped out to Australia and India To combat the Japanese.

I believe this was the probable thinking of the Senior RAF comander's at the time as they Probably knew that there was a chance of the glue on the Mossi Melting in the warmer climate's. Witch i do believe that year's ago in history lessons i did read of that happening in a book of the Mossi's History.

HuH people can check it out if they like.

But i say The new plane is either an Se-a5 WW1 or the Beufighter or He-111 Or The Donnier ( early Battle of Britain Model )  :salute

Might want to do a bit more checking on the facts regarding the Beau.  Strike Wings operated out of England til the end of the war.  Beau's operated in North Africa, Malta, the Balkans, Italy etc from 41 on.  RAF had Beaus in the CBI from 43 on.  Beaus with the Aussies from 42 til the end.  Production ended in late 45. 

There were concerns about the Mossie construction reacting to the tropical climate in the CBI and they didn't see a lot of service there or in the Pacific.
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Post by: fudgums on July 06, 2010, 01:16:16 PM
me 410
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Post by: BulletVI on July 06, 2010, 01:49:26 PM
Might want to do a bit more checking on the facts regarding the Beau.  Strike Wings operated out of England til the end of the war.  Beau's operated in North Africa, Malta, the Balkans, Italy etc from 41 on.  RAF had Beaus in the CBI from 43 on.  Beaus with the Aussies from 42 til the end.  Production ended in late 45. 

There were concerns about the Mossie construction reacting to the tropical climate in the CBI and they didn't see a lot of service there or in the Pacific.

Yes but after the Mossi had proved it self in action you find that most strike Beu's Had been moved to warmer climate's. by 1943 there where more Mossi squadron's in the UK than Beu squadrons. Most Beu squadron's where anti ship The TorBeu and even the Mossi took over there after some time. And many Beufighter Strike Squadrons where re-equipped with the Mossi as it on strike mission's was eventually able to carry a heavier payload than the Beu i.e the Mossi by 1944 i think was able to carry around 6000 pounds of bombs and 8 rocket's all at-once. But as said and i quote the Mossi is not suited for warmer climate's as it's glue and resin was liable to melt as the glue ( resin ) was a new development For the time. And RAF command decided that the Beu was the best Strike aircraft for warmer climate's i.e the Med Africa And Burma / Pacific.

But Hey lets not argue I like Both the Beu And Mossi And i want to see all variety's of them in this game :)

Beu and Mossi Rule's  :rock :rock :rock :rock  :salute :salute :salute :salute
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Post by: Nemisis on July 06, 2010, 01:51:51 PM
Why so many GV's?


How many GV's do we have? How many aircraft do we have? There ya go.
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Post by: BulletVI on July 06, 2010, 02:01:37 PM
In fact there is a story that in 1944 the allies's need to do a photo re-con  deep deep behind the Japanese line's But the Beu Didn't have the range it fell shot by 100 mile's. So they asked for a High flying photo re-con Mossi to do the job. so one was flown from England. But by the time the Mossi was on its return trip and around 200 miles from base the glue ( resin ) had started to melt. but fortunately the crew was able to land at a forward air base and when the Mossi came to a halt and shut down the Mossi just fell apart now no-longer able to support its weight. :( . But it completed it's mission successfully. And sample's where taken to see how and why the glue ( resin ) had melted. and by 1950 they had solved this problem and during the Malayan conflict The Mossi was able to operate out there as a high flying Photo Re-con Plane.

It's a nice story but there are no official document's on this but i read about it from an autobiography from an RAF pilot who flew Mossi's in WW2 and he heard it from so-on-so. So it may be true to an extent it may just be a good story made up by some pilot to enhance his story of what had happened.
 :salute all Vetrans from WW1 to present-Day  :salute
  
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Post by: BrownBaron on July 06, 2010, 07:02:36 PM
Re-con Plane...so-on-so.

Recon is one word, is not a proper noun, and is an abbreviation of reconnaissance. Why did you insert the hyphen?

Plane is not a proper noun.

The expression is so-and-so.

I highly doubt the bonds would be able to take the strain of the lift created by the wings, then fall apart just as significantly smaller strain was placed on them.
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Post by: Ack-Ack on July 06, 2010, 07:16:27 PM

How many GV's do we have? How many aircraft do we have? There ya go.

Considering this game was designed primarily as a flight sim, are you really all that surprised there are more planes than ground vehicles to choose from?  There you go...


ack-ack
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Post by: BulletVI on July 06, 2010, 07:19:54 PM
Recon is one word, is not a proper noun, and is an abbreviation of reconnaissance. Why did you insert the hyphen?

Plane is not a proper noun.

The expression is so-and-so.

I highly doubt the bonds would be able to take the strain of the lift created by the wings, then fall apart just as significantly smaller strain was placed on them.

Ahem Google chrome spell checker it override's the forum's for some reason looking in to it :)

As i said it was a story from a pilot and passed about so the Chinese whispers effect take's place on this story but it's a fun story :)
 :salute :salute :salute
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Post by: bustr on July 06, 2010, 07:20:31 PM
We need the Piper L4.

In Europe, the final dogfight of WWII occurred between an L-4 and a German Fieseler Fi 156 Storch. The pilot and co-pilot of the L-4, Lts. Duane Francis and Bill Martin, opened fire on the Storch with their .45 caliber pistols, forcing the German air crew to land and surrender.

Can we get the L4 with a Tommy Gun.......................... ....... :x
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Post by: Nemisis on July 06, 2010, 07:25:47 PM
Considering this game was designed primarily as a flight sim, are you really all that surprised there are more planes than ground vehicles to choose from?  There you go...

ack-ack

Regardles of that fact (if it is a fact, I've never seen HTC say "We need to fill some holes in the aircraft  line up more than we need to get more than we need to get a decent tank line up"), we need new GV's than more than we need new aircraft, IMO. The setups can muddle along with incorrect variants (190A4 as opposed to a 190A5, or 109F4 as opposed to a 109F1), while an African setup wouldn't do too well using M4's (or even T-34's) vs Panzer IV's and Tigers.
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Post by: Ack-Ack on July 06, 2010, 07:30:37 PM
Regardles of that fact (if it is a fact, I've never seen HTC say "We need to fill some holes in the aircraft  line up more than we need to get more than we need to get a decent tank line up"), we need new GV's than more than we need new aircraft, IMO. The setups can muddle along with incorrect variants (190A4 as opposed to a 190A5, or 109F4 as opposed to a 109F1), while an African setup wouldn't do too well using M4's (or even T-34's) vs Panzer IV's and Tigers.

Who says we need more GVs than planes?  You?  Planes are the bread and butter of this game, not ground vehicles.


ack-ack
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Post by: Nemisis on July 06, 2010, 07:35:46 PM
And if we put as much attention into groun vehicles and the troops (say if we had individual controlable troops and all that other nifty stuff), then THEY would be the bread and butter of the game. For all their speed and firepower, aircraft just couldn't stop every single troop thats running toward the map room (I imagine that we would have something like a king of the hill style capture. You need to clear the map room builing of enemys for say 1:30).


Its all how you pick and choose, remember.
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Post by: grizz441 on July 06, 2010, 07:37:20 PM
And if we put as much attention into groun vehicles and the troops (say if we had individual controlable troops and all that other nifty stuff), then THEY would be the bread and butter of the game. For all their speed and firepower, aircraft just couldn't stop every single troop thats running toward the map room (I imagine that we would have something like a king of the hill style capture. You need to clear the map room builing of enemys for say 1:30).


Its all how you pick and choose, remember.

no
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Post by: crazierthanu on July 06, 2010, 07:40:37 PM
And if we put as much attention into groun vehicles and the troops (say if we had individual controlable troops and all that other nifty stuff), then THEY would be the bread and butter of the game. For all their speed and firepower, aircraft just couldn't stop every single troop thats running toward the map room (I imagine that we would have something like a king of the hill style capture. You need to clear the map room builing of enemys for say 1:30).


Its all how you pick and choose, remember.
Absolutely not, if your sole purpose in this game is to GV, there are far better games out there.
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Post by: Ack-Ack on July 06, 2010, 07:47:09 PM
And if we put as much attention into groun vehicles and the troops (say if we had individual controlable troops and all that other nifty stuff), then THEY would be the bread and butter of the game. For all their speed and firepower, aircraft just couldn't stop every single troop thats running toward the map room (I imagine that we would have something like a king of the hill style capture. You need to clear the map room builing of enemys for say 1:30).


Its all how you pick and choose, remember.

You should check out World of Tanks, as that upcoming arcade tank game sounds like it's right up your alley.  No planes and all tanks with power ups.

ack-ack
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Post by: Nemisis on July 06, 2010, 09:25:46 PM
I don't want power ups and cheats. What I want is a decent tank, tank destroyer, and SPG line up.

And crazier, I was saying that if HTC had put the same ammount of work into the ground combat as they did into the aircraft, that aircraft wouldn't be the star of the show any more. We would likely see a lot more base takes due to GV's (infantry included) and that there would be a big spike in GV sorties.


For better and worse, HTC put tanks into the game. That means they deserve their fair share of attention.
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Post by: wgmount on July 07, 2010, 01:29:49 AM
What I want is a decent tank, tank destroyer, and SPG line up.



I'm not certain that the Churchill MK 1 would be considered a decent tank destroyer. The QF 2-pounder was kinda weak. The MK VII would be nice. It had more armor than a Tiger but even the 75 mm would be rather weak firepower also.

If it is a tank destroyer you want maybe the Pershing with its 90mm main gun would be nice to have.
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Post by: Slash27 on July 07, 2010, 03:40:50 AM
(http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acimages/yak3_mv.jpg)

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Post by: BulletVI on July 07, 2010, 11:23:13 AM
(http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acimages/yak3_mv.jpg)



AHAHAA Russia's attempt to copy the P-51 's Performance :lol But very nearly got it as well.

Well i call it a copy as from some angle's and a distance it would look similar to the P-51 :)
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Post by: Motherland on July 07, 2010, 12:05:30 PM
AHAHAA Russia's attempt to copy the P-51 's Performance :lol But very nearly got it as well.

Well i call it a copy as from some angle's and a distance it would look similar to the P-51 :)
Except that the aircraft has a completely 100% different design philosophy altogether...
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Post by: Lusche on July 07, 2010, 12:09:02 PM
Except that the aircraft has a completely 100% different design philosophy altogether...

and was a linear evolution of the Yak-1 which had it's maiden flight in 1940...




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Post by: Ack-Ack on July 07, 2010, 12:24:31 PM
AHAHAA Russia's attempt to copy the P-51 's Performance :lol But very nearly got it as well.

Well i call it a copy as from some angle's and a distance it would look similar to the P-51 :)

The Yak-3 can trace it's origins to the I-30, not the P-51D and you can look at the design and see that the Mustang didn't have any influence over it.  Also, according to Marcel Albert, France's top scoring ace that flew the Yak-3 with the Normandie-Niemen squadron on the Eastern Front, the Yak-3 was superior to both the Mustang and Spitfire.

ack-ack
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Post by: BulletVI on July 07, 2010, 01:39:05 PM
The Yak-3 can trace it's origins to the I-30, not the P-51D and you can look at the design and see that the Mustang didn't have any influence over it.  Also, according to Marcel Albert, France's top scoring ace that flew the Yak-3 with the Normandie-Niemen squadron on the Eastern Front, the Yak-3 was superior to both the Mustang and Spitfire.

ack-ack


HUH yeh a bit of Sarcastic humour :) remember Russia was always a shade behind in aircraft but America did give them the Specification's to the P-51 so that they could also build a better fighter. :)
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Post by: Karnak on July 07, 2010, 06:02:39 PM
HUH yeh a bit of Sarcastic humour :) remember Russia was always a shade behind in aircraft but America did give them the Specification's to the P-51 so that they could also build a better fighter. :)
Not really, no.  Russia's designers were just as capable as anybody other nation's.  They had to factor in a few things that American, British and German designers didn't.  1) They had less power to work with, so keeping an aircraft as light as possible was paramount.  The Japanese had that problem too, but were further hampered by the need to fly long distances. 2) Keep use of strategic materials to a minimum, which couples nicely with point 1.  3) A less advanced manufacturing base required greater simplicity in construction. 4) The need to operate in comparatively crude conditions was a required design consideration.  They did not have to worry overmuch about making their aircraft extremely long ranged to penetrate deep into enemy territory.
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Post by: wgmount on July 07, 2010, 10:37:04 PM
HUH yeh a bit of Sarcastic humour :) remember Russia was always a shade behind in aircraft but America did give them the Specification's to the P-51 so that they could also build a better fighter. :)


The USA didn't just send the specifications they sent the whole planes. Nearly 400 through lend/lease. P51's B/C/& D. Russia wouldn't send them to the front lines because they thought they were inferior to their own designs. They did seem to like the P39 for some reason though.  <shrug>
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Post by: Guppy35 on July 07, 2010, 10:49:41 PM

The USA didn't just send the specifications they sent the whole planes. Nearly 400 through lend/lease. P51's B/C/& D. Russia wouldn't send them to the front lines because they thought they were inferior to their own designs. They did seem to like the P39 for some reason though.  <shrug>

Where did you find that info?  I've never seen that anywhere.  I do believe they got a P51A for evaluation, and some 51s that were disabled during the Russian shuttle runs were left behind, but I don't recall ever seeing anything saying we gave the Russians 51s in lend lease.
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Post by: wgmount on July 08, 2010, 12:49:59 AM
    Lend-lease aircraft in Russia / Carl-Fredrik Geust, Gennadiy Petrov.


Not sure of the number though
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Post by: Ack-Ack on July 08, 2010, 03:03:20 AM
    Lend-lease aircraft in Russia / Carl-Fredrik Geust, Gennadiy Petrov.


Not sure of the number though

Guppy's right but I had read somewhere they were ex-RAF Mustang I's they got through the Lend-Lease for evaluations.  They later got some B/C and D models that had been abandoned during the shuttle missions but those I don't think ever saw any front line service.

ack-ack
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Post by: Ruah on July 08, 2010, 04:16:33 AM
waiting for the yak 3, using the yak 9 as a stop gap.

I am really waiting to get me some spit-scalps!!
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Post by: Mano on July 08, 2010, 02:44:52 PM
The SE5a is not to be denied  ............................. ............................. .................  :neener:

(http://www.airmuseumsuk.org/airshow/2004/Rougham2004/800/images/207%20RAF%20SE5a%20replica%20G-BUWE.jpg)
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Post by: Imowface on July 08, 2010, 02:54:52 PM
Id say along with the Yak 3, we need a Yak -1b and a La-5 (or Lag-5) however you want to call it
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Post by: whipster22 on July 08, 2010, 04:08:44 PM
Id say along with the Yak 3, we need a Yak -1b and a La-5 (or Lag-5) however you want to call it

we have a La-5 its called the La-5fn
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Post by: Imowface on July 08, 2010, 05:29:45 PM
I know this, I fly it quite often, I am asking for a early model la-5, ie with the fast back fuselage as opposed to the semi bubble, also, like the La-7 give me a 3 cannon La-5 option :)
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Post by: Bruv119 on July 08, 2010, 05:37:42 PM
with the lack of any teasers this week.  I assume the new update will be released at somepoint next week   :aok
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Post by: Brooke on July 09, 2010, 04:54:20 AM
Not really, no.  Russia's designers were just as capable as anybody other nation's.  They had to factor in a few things that American, British and German designers didn't.

An additional big disadvantage for the Russian aircraft designers was Stalin.  ;)
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Post by: Volron on July 09, 2010, 04:00:11 PM
Looks like we will get neither for this update, that or they are waiting till the last second. :lol  Either way, when the new change comes, I think a jeep drive through town will be interesting, then the manning of our new AT friend.  :devil
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Post by: Nemisis on July 09, 2010, 04:46:17 PM
It might happen Volron. Remember the P-47M?
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Post by: Volron on July 09, 2010, 04:52:49 PM
That is why I'm holding on to hope.  :lol  It could be that they are going to spring a nice little surprise on us. :x
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Post by: Nemisis on July 09, 2010, 05:33:30 PM
Of course thats why. Its why we're all holding onto whatever scrap of hope we have left  :D.
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Post by: Kazaa on July 15, 2010, 09:13:48 PM
No teaser yet?

(http://ladiesdotdotdot.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/dawson-crying.jpg)
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Post by: EskimoJoe on July 15, 2010, 09:17:15 PM
No teaser yet?

(http://ladiesdotdotdot.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/dawson-crying.jpg)

(http://image.take40.com/300x225/jizz_in_my_pants_vimage_youtube_400x300.jpg)


???

 :rofl

(Pic stolen from Fudgums)
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Post by: BulletVI on July 15, 2010, 09:22:58 PM
Well i did get an email from them today with this in it  but i have no idea what it is ?????? Or what it means ???? !!!!!


Dear BulletVI we would like to thank you on your recent post about the  gfereBuhuta it was very helpfull.
Once again it has always been best source of information on aircraft that we get from our community in the forums.

Thanks Again

HiTech Creations


Needless to say i was stunned  :huh  :O

I cant figure it out  :headscratch: :headscratch:
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Post by: EskimoJoe on July 15, 2010, 09:53:51 PM
Well i did get an email from them today with this in it  but i have no idea what it is ?????? Or what it means ???? !!!!!


Dear BulletVI we would like to thank you on your recent post about the  gfereuhuta it was very helpfull.
Once again it has always been best source of information on aircraft that we get from our community in the forums.

Thanks Again

HiTech Creations


Needless to say i was stunned  :huh  :O

I cant figure it out  :headscratch: :headscratch:

Ahh, the spellchecking fruit. That must be why HiTech hasn't been making so many spelling/grammar mistakes in his posts lately.
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Post by: FireDrgn on July 15, 2010, 10:25:24 PM
YAK 3
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Post by: Larry on July 15, 2010, 11:37:12 PM
I would like to see the German F86 added.


(http://www.military.cz/usa/air/post_war/f86/f86richthoven.jpg)


(http://www.military.cz/usa/air/post_war/f86/f86germ.jpg)
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Post by: StokesAk on July 15, 2010, 11:43:10 PM
Well i did get an email from them today with this in it  but i have no idea what it is ?????? Or what it means ???? !!!!!


Dear BulletVI we would like to thank you on your recent post about the  gfereBuhuta it was very helpfull.
Once again it has always been best source of information on aircraft that we get from our community in the forums.

Thanks Again

HiTech Creations


Needless to say i was stunned  :huh  :O

I cant figure it out  :headscratch: :headscratch:

Picks you posted on the Beaufighter!

WERE GONNA GET A BEAFIGHTER!
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Post by: Guppy35 on July 16, 2010, 12:50:27 AM
LOL Thank goodness BulletVI was here to post information about the Beufighter or Beafighter.

What I hope is we get a Beaufighter some day. :aok
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Post by: Simba on July 16, 2010, 07:20:21 AM
I'm with Mano 'n' Chilli, about time the WW1 Arena began to be expanded to its full potential.

First a PROPER SE5a, not that funky li'l replica - here's the Shuttleworth Trust's example getting airborne at Old Warden airfield:

(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s95/Simba_of_DuxWing/DX22052005_03.jpg)

For the RFC in 1917 (and RNAS, if ever we get a 'flying-off platform' on which to take our biplanes out to sea), I give you - the Sopwith Pup:

(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s95/Simba_of_DuxWing/Pup004.jpg)

And, last for now but by no means least, the most important type of WW1 aircraft when it came to killing the maximum number of enemy - the artillery-spotter, here exemplified by the ubiquitous RAF RE8 'Harry Tate':

(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s95/Simba_of_DuxWing/RE8crew.jpg)

The Huns to have their own equivalent favourites as well of course; Albatros single- and two-seaters of various marks in particular.

If HT will build them and a more realistic WW1 Arena than the present simplistic Furballer's Benefit, they will come.

It's a long way to Tipperary-e-e-e-e- . . .

 :cool:

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Post by: jay on July 16, 2010, 08:38:01 AM
AHAHAA Russia's attempt to copy the P-51 's Performance :lol But very nearly got it as well.

Well i call it a copy as from some angle's and a distance it would look similar to the P-51 :)

i was scrolling through the page really fast and i thought that was a 51 until i looked at it more  :rofl
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Post by: BulletVI on July 16, 2010, 11:05:37 AM

And for the ww1 arena i shall be looking for info on Gotha's And the RFC's early planes aswell as medium bomber's :)  :aok :aok
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Post by: BulletVI on July 16, 2010, 11:07:08 AM
Picks you posted on the Beaufighter!

WERE GONNA GET A BEAFIGHTER!

Stokes just incase you dont know i was joking lol but you do know dont you :lol  :rofl :rofl :aok
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Post by: StokesAk on July 16, 2010, 11:16:34 AM
Stokes just incase you dont know i was joking lol but you do know dont you :lol  :rofl :rofl :aok

I still think were getting the beaufighter
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Post by: BulletVI on July 16, 2010, 11:42:05 AM
I still think were getting the beaufighter



me too SLURP   :salute :angel:
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Post by: Karnak on July 16, 2010, 11:53:16 AM
I would really like to see one of the following:

Me410
Beaufighter
Ki-43
G4M2
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Post by: Wmaker on July 16, 2010, 12:02:22 PM
Me410
Beaufighter
Ki-43
G4M2

Sounds like a good compromise, best of both words. But I think VVS is far too big player to be neglected in the near future. :)
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Post by: Karnak on July 16, 2010, 12:07:16 PM
Sounds like a good compromise, best of both words. But I think VVS is far too big player to be neglected in the near future. :)

You're right.  Toss the Pe-2 and Tu-2 onto the list.
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Post by: Nemisis on July 16, 2010, 05:43:48 PM
I don't think we're getting the beaufighter, unless they pull another 47M on us. They have to be working hard on the new town and field, not to mention the new field guns  :banana:.


Personally, I feel the biggest holes in the line up are the Russians fighters (and bombers to a more limited extent), the Italians need more of everything, and the Japanese need a few more fighters, and the G4M before we have a reall pacific theater lineup.

OK, hold the flamethrowers on this one, I'm just tacking it on at the end of my post.

I was bombing with a B5N, and I hit the 'look forward'. What happens? You see the bulkhead, and windows and all that good stuff.

I got to thinking, one of the big objections (well, one that isn't just speculation anyway) is how to model the remote control guns. Clearly we can slave head positions to a certian area, and limit their movment, and have this for multiple possitions. We also have windows that you can see through (B5N, and the Ju-87's floor window). So why not put a window where the gun cam was, have something like the bombsite, where you can't see the surounding interior of the plane, and slave the head possitions to wherever the gunner was seated?


Sorry about the Hijack, I just didn't think this needed a new thread.
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Post by: bassmeg on July 17, 2010, 09:36:21 AM
M3 / 75mm...or at least some tweaks to the GV's
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Post by: bassmeg on July 17, 2010, 09:43:15 AM
port to port convoys.....subs, DD's, theres so much water on the map...lets use it..... re-sup convoys...mmmm yummmy for my 25H
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Post by: JunkyII on July 17, 2010, 09:52:26 AM
Id like to see the KI84 re-done If they remodeled any plane.


As far as a new rides......KI43
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Post by: Kazaa on July 17, 2010, 10:29:57 AM
Id like to see the KI84 re-done If they remodeled any plane.


As far as a new rides......KI43

Ki84 has already been updated to AH2 standards...
Title: Re: The next plane to be introduced/updated and shown on the front page...
Post by: JunkyII on July 17, 2010, 11:13:07 AM
Ki84 has already been updated to AH2 standards...
Oh poopy, thought it hadnt been yet


Temp would be cool :aok
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Post by: Nemisis on July 17, 2010, 04:32:24 PM
Junky, we need to update in the order of importance. If the tempest saw more use, then sure.
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Post by: JunkyII on July 17, 2010, 04:44:31 PM
Junky, we need to update in the order of importance. If the tempest saw more use, then sure.
we arent going to do anything......dont try to speak for HTC. Tempy is out of date and they just remodeled the typh which looked alot like the temp back in the day......its a good guess honestly
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Post by: Imowface on July 17, 2010, 09:54:43 PM
I hope it will be all of the hurricanes  :pray but I have a strange feeling that we will be getting the He-111 for some reason, which in turn gives them a reason to update the hurri so I have something to shoot down those new bombers while being historically accurate and 3d :)
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Post by: Karnak on July 17, 2010, 11:25:20 PM
Ki84 has already been updated to AH2 standards...

False.

Ki-84 has never been updated.  It was one of the three original AH2 standard units, along with the B-24J and T-34/76.

 :P
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Post by: Mister Fork on July 19, 2010, 12:48:44 PM
Actually, I'm placing bets on one new aircraft, the He-111, and the redevelopment of a couple more:
- Tempest, C-47, Ju-88, and a newly designed Stuka with the 37mm option.
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Post by: Kazaa on July 19, 2010, 01:00:22 PM
False.

Ki-84 has never been updated.  It was one of the three original AH2 standard units, along with the B-24J and T-34/76.

 :P

The Ki84 3D model is still of an AH2 standard, so I was still correct.
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Post by: Karnak on July 19, 2010, 07:54:35 PM
The Ki84 3D model is still of an AH2 standard, so I was still correct.
I was making a tongue in cheek joke.

Honesty compels me to point out that the canopy on the Ki-84-Ia is, graphically, inferior to several AH1 aircraft models such as the A6Ms, Hurricanes and Bf110s.  I would like to see that one part redone on it.
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Post by: Volron on July 19, 2010, 08:03:24 PM
Actually, I'm placing bets on one new aircraft, the He-111, and the redevelopment of a couple more:
- Tempest, C-47, Ju-88, and a newly designed Stuka with the 37mm option.

Oh it would be so nice if they remodeled the Stuka, added the BK-37's and it's dive siren.  The siren may be harder to deal with, since they would have to add a sound option for it alone (so those who don't want to hear it, can turn it off).  As I said in another thread, (or maybe it was this one?), I would dedicate an entire tour to flying the He-111 if it got added next.  I am hoping that it's the He-111 H-11 that they add, if and when they get around to adding it.
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Post by: Kazaa on July 19, 2010, 08:23:37 PM
I was making a tongue in cheek joke.

Honesty compels me to point out that the canopy on the Ki-84-Ia is, graphically, inferior to several AH1 aircraft models such as the A6Ms, Hurricanes and Bf110s.  I would like to see that one part redone on it.

QFT.

I wish of our aircraft had as much attention to detail paid to them as the Typh's

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n268/Luke_831/3.jpg)
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Post by: BulletVI on July 19, 2010, 09:13:46 PM
Oh it would be so nice if they remodeled the Stuka, added the BK-37's and it's dive siren.  The siren may be harder to deal with, since they would have to add a sound option for it alone (so those who don't want to hear it, can turn it off).  As I said in another thread, (or maybe it was this one?), I would dedicate an entire tour to flying the He-111 if it got added next.  I am hoping that it's the He-111 H-11 that they add, if and when they get around to adding it.

If they add the He - 111 i will admit im going to enjoy shooting them down in the DROVES :lol Easy meat for the Spit .typhoon , tempest , P51 , P47 and Oh even the TBM :lol

I vote the Fairy Battle :lol just to see what's said :lol
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Post by: Karnak on July 19, 2010, 10:08:00 PM
I vote the Fairy Battle :lol just to see what's said :lol

As one quick reference book puts it:

"The Battle will forever be remembered as a combat aeroplane which seemed marvellous when it appeared and yet within four years was being hacked out of the sky in droves so that, ever afterward, aircrew think of the name with a shudder."
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Post by: BulletVI on July 19, 2010, 10:47:00 PM
As one quick reference book puts it:

"The Battle will forever be remembered as a combat aeroplane which seemed marvellous when it appeared and yet within four years was being hacked out of the sky in droves so that, ever afterward, aircrew think of the name with a shudder."

Yes was being Sarcastic the Fairy Battle Has really No place in the Game as it was replaced by the Hampden i think not long after the Battle of France and thus its was mainly laying mine's to keep the German's in port or hold them up on any Channel crossing Fell free to correct me if you wish :-) altho it would be cool to have the battle be a nerve racking and costly experience cos i say it would have to be perked :lol   :rofl :rofl :aok
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Post by: mariah11 on July 22, 2010, 10:15:38 PM
I'm gonna go with the short stirling think we need more birtish heavy bombers in the game don't make me wait to long
Eric11 <S> out
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Post by: JunkyII on July 23, 2010, 06:47:54 AM
I'm gonna go with the short stirling think we need more birtish heavy bombers in the game don't make me wait to long
Eric11 <S> out
We have the Lancaster, we could use some more Axis/ russian Bombers for late war arenas.
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Post by: Masherbrum on July 23, 2010, 06:50:18 AM
We have the Lancaster, we could use some more Axis/ russian Bombers for late war arenas.

 :cheers:
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Post by: BulletVI on July 23, 2010, 10:34:08 AM


The wellinton and the Beuafighter :)
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Post by: fbWldcat on July 23, 2010, 10:45:13 AM
Can we has the rubber ducky?  :rofl

In all seriousness, though, I would love to see a new and improved zeke or maybe just a new one  :x
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Post by: whiteman on July 23, 2010, 11:12:15 AM
what ever it is it better have a kleenex box holder from the look, or sound of things.
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Post by: BulletVI on July 23, 2010, 03:28:44 PM
Can we has the rubber ducky?  :rofl

In all seriousness, though, I would love to see a new and improved zeke or maybe just a new one  :x

How about the Army version  of the Zeke it had 2 cannon in each wing and 2 machine guns in the nose :)
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Post by: Simba on July 23, 2010, 03:30:24 PM
" . . . the Fairy Battle Has really No place in the Game as it was replaced by the Hampden."

Oh no it wasn't.

 :cool:
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Post by: fbWldcat on July 23, 2010, 04:06:24 PM
How about the Army version  of the Zeke it had 2 cannon in each wing and 2 machine guns in the nose :)

Current zekes already have 2 cannons and 2 MGs...

One MG is 13mm and the other is 7.7mm I believe.
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Post by: BulletVI on July 23, 2010, 05:25:07 PM
Current zekes already have 2 cannons and 2 MGs...

One MG is 13mm and the other is 7.7mm I believe.

Ah never knew that i only know that the navy zekes had i1 cannon in the each wing. i didnt know they had that option for them nowander i got killed by a zeke very easily last week lol :lol
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Post by: Nemisis on July 23, 2010, 08:38:55 PM
Zeeks are very dangerous if you are hard headed enough to play their game. Just keep it fast, and if you are in any american plane, you should out turn him untill the speeds get slow.
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Post by: Ack-Ack on July 23, 2010, 08:53:40 PM
How about the Army version  of the Zeke it had 2 cannon in each wing and 2 machine guns in the nose :)

Ki-43 Hayabusa (Oscar) is the plane you're talking about.  Initially it only had 2 machine guns and usually consisted of either duel .303s or .50s, or a mix of .303 and .50.  It wasn't until the Ki-43IIIb did the Oscar finally get 20mm cannons.

Here is a photo of a captured Ki-43Ia with Nationalist Chinese markings.
(http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5495/ki43btd3.jpg)

This is one Japanese fighter we need to help plug the gap in the Japanese plane set and also for scenarios and special events.


ack-ack
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Post by: Simba on July 24, 2010, 07:58:44 AM
Couldn't agree more, Ack-Ack, it's ridiculous to have a WW2 combat flight sim without a Ki-43 Oscar.

Or a Fairey Swordfish.

 ;)
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Post by: Martyn on July 24, 2010, 08:03:05 AM
The Fairey Battle! It is to the B5 what the B5 is to a Tempest! Yay!

Actually, troops look really weird (and downed pilot too). They desparately need remodeling.
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Post by: BulletVI on July 24, 2010, 11:38:55 AM
The Fairey Battle! It is to the B5 what the B5 is to a Tempest! Yay!

Actually, troops look really weird (and downed pilot too). They desparately need remodeling.

It would be cool to troops running around with M1 Grand's, Lee Enfeilds, Tommy Guns and Tin Hat's Rather Than Them Looking like Pilot's :)
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Post by: Nemisis on July 24, 2010, 01:27:33 PM
Oh, can we please get Re2005? oh, and the 190A5's Ruestsatz kit with the 6x 20mm's?
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Post by: fbWldcat on July 24, 2010, 01:32:23 PM
Oh, and the 190A5's Ruestsatz kit with the 6x 20mm's?

Can you say HOmobile?
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Post by: froger on July 24, 2010, 02:06:58 PM
Can you say HOmobile?


ummmmmmm.............

ok     HO MO bile  :D


 :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

       froger
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Post by: fbWldcat on July 24, 2010, 03:06:23 PM
I'm in the mood to go gigging tonight...
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Post by: bassmeg on July 24, 2010, 06:41:29 PM
while we are begging......can we get the B-25h with the dual 75mm posi-tronic flabragastinators????   pleeeeease..... :huh