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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Agent360 on June 25, 2010, 05:11:42 PM
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What rockets can kill tanks with one rocket hit?
If not, how many rocket hits does it take.
I wish there was some kind of "damage table" to look up various damage percentages to fig out what it takes to kill tanks in planes.
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What rockets can kill tanks with one rocket hit?
The PB-1 (Panzerblitz 1) carried by the FW 190F-8. It's a dedicated anti-tank weapon with a hollow-charge warhead.
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I've killed a lot of Panzers, Wirbles, Ostis and Shermans using salvo 3 from an F6F-5. By that I mean a one pass clean kill.
The 190F-8 can do the same thing with a single rocket but it's harder to aim IMO.
T-34's and Tigers are much tougher but I have killed T-34's with rockets. They take several passes, need everything you've got and even then the prospect is still iffy. You're more likey to track or turret them.
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Am I missing a list about what rockets are anti-tank, anti-air, etc? I didn't see it anywhere on the trainers site. I didn't realize until just a few weeks ago that they were actually modeled different. Any help would be appreciated.
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PB 1 (FW 190F-8) are the only dedicated anti-tank rockets (works also like any conventional HE rocket vs objects)
WGR 21 (several German planes) are the only dedicated anti-air rockets (with a timed fuze, but works also as HE vs objects)
All other are general purpose HE rockets.
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PB 1 (FW 190F-8) are the only dedicated anti-tank rockets (works also like any conventional HE rocket vs objects)
WGR 21 (several German planes) are the only dedicated anti-air rockets (with a timed fuze, but works also as HE vs objects)
All other are general purpose HE rockets.
Simple enough, thanks.
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I wish there was some kind of "damage table" to look up various damage percentages to fig out what it takes to kill tanks in planes.
and that's how the "no trolling to get Lusche to make a graph, chart, or pie chart" posting rule was created on the AH bbs, AKA: see rule #16 :rofl
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As lusche said the pb-1 is the only rocket in game designed for armour... The 5" rockets are usless as far as I am concerned against armour.. I have seen 5" rockets actually bounce off tigers I have hit in game although it has been awhile since I have seen that... Do not no if that has been remodeled.. Baldy says he has killed heavy armour with the 5" rocket "panzer" I am sure with a real steep AOA on top of the turret it is possible.. If I really wanted to kill armour with rockets I would bring the 190f-8 with 12 pb-1's although they are hard to aim..
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As lusche said the pb-1 is the only rocket in game designed for armour... The 5" rockets are usless as far as I am concerned against armour.. I have seen 5" rockets actually bounce off tigers I have hit in game although it has been awhile since I have seen that... Do not no if that has been remodeled.. Baldy says he has killed heavy armour with the 5" rocket "panzer" I am sure with a real steep AOA on top of the turret it is possible.. If I really wanted to kill armour with rockets I would bring the 190f-8 with 12 pb-1's although they are hard to aim..
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I will have to try a 3 salvo with 5" rockets today sometime :cheers:
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Agent these sights will help with the 190F8 rockets if you're interested (btw I turn the the alpha way down so they are barely visible). I come in low and fast (325+) and I fire at about 400 yards, a single Pb-1 will kill any tank.
(http://332nd.org/dogs/baumer/BBS%20Stuff/sights/190F8%20Revi%2016d.bmp)
(http://332nd.org/dogs/baumer/BBS%20Stuff/sights/190F8.bmp)
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Agent these sights will help with the 190F8 rockets if you're interested (btw I turn the the alpha way down so they are barely visible). I come in low and fast (325+) and I fire at about 400 yards, a single Pb-1 will kill any tank.
(http://332nd.org/dogs/baumer/BBS%20Stuff/sights/190F8%20Revi%2016d.bmp)
(http://332nd.org/dogs/baumer/BBS%20Stuff/sights/190F8.bmp)
Thanks.
I think rockets are cool. Just seem more fun to blow watermelon up with them.
I will give the sights a try
Thanks to rest of you guys for the help
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Your welcome, btw watch out for the top poppers! Is really fun to have a tank turret go flying past on a run. :)
(http://332nd.org/dogs/baumer/190F8pass.jpg)
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A8Moray gave me quite a shock. Enough that I wanted to pick his brain on this bird and it's ordnance. He 1 rocket killed my Firefly. I was quite impressed! Hopefully he will come along and dish some info for ya Agent.
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Agent,Mr Baumer was kind enough to make me a couple of his rocket sights. :aok
I've used them with other rockets also,his box sights work well with the british rockets on the mossie and tiffie.
TBH,I havent used them much with the ingame HVAR's but I dont see why they wouldnt work just aswell with them.
If you try them out in the TA and take advantage of the LCG you'll quickly learn which angles and speeds work best.
Try his PB1 runs in the TA and you'll see at around 325 or so the tank sits nicely in the box,just remember to put the tank in the proper box for the firing order.
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Am I missing a list about what rockets are anti-tank, anti-air, etc? I didn't see it anywhere on the trainers site. I didn't realize until just a few weeks ago that they were actually modeled different. Any help would be appreciated.
Also I have found it takes a lot of practice w/ air to air, watching your speed, diving, climbing converging head-on, or chasing all extend or shorten the firing range. I've consistently killed bombers head on by firing 2.5-3.5k depending, diving fast behind 1.5-2K with a lead like duck hunting, or cruising straight behind at 1K aiming 30-40 feet overhead. The pilot is almost always looking at the ground or sea for flak! Har! Boom! What the heck was that?! :neener:
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Baumer's reference is a good one. (Use Sketchwork's 2009 gunsite collection) The Revil sight with the double box underneath is works well for low angle attacks on GV's at close ranges. Fire the rockets in pairs....first salvo comes off the port wing, second off the starboard, and use the appropriate targeting box. Like I said, this sight works best for low angle/high speed passes at a range of ~400 yards or under.
To reach out a bit more, find Sketch's A8-N6 Jabo sight.
There is a dot underneath the pipper that marks a good jabo drop. This mark, I've found, is exactly where the 190F8's rockets go when you place it on the turret at 600 yards, diving from an altitude of 3 K and 1.5K off the enemy gv. (firing rockets at 600 yards exactly)
So, basically... I fly over gv's at about 2,000 feet, and just range at icon distance. When I find a gv, I initiate a shallow climb from 90 degrees offset from the front of the tank, till i hit 3,000 feet, and 1.5k distance on the gv. From here I roll over and pull 180 degrees around in a shallow dive onto the gv. Place the pipper short of your intended target, and let the GV move into the sight. When the top of the turret is on the bottom pipper at D600, shoot two rockets. If you do it right, you should get a side shot on the GV at 600 yards. The rockets land right at the seam of the turret and the body deck.
A nice little trick I've learned with the F8 is also to keep an egg on until after I have used the rockets up. Keeping the egg underneath the belly REALLY keeps the center of gravity stable,and the gunsight tends to wander a lot less......
I've figured out basically where to put the rockets at 1.5K to kill wirbles with the A8-N6 , but I usually need to salvo 3 or 4 at once to get a hit that far. And then be called a cheater. Meh. dancing banana Just remember, it's not a fighter at all....it's a ground attack bird. If anything more than a low P40 shows up, you've got issues. There is so much more weight in armor, there is very little control authority in any direction. The first 10 degrees is jumpy, anything more and she's bleeding E all over the place. She doesn't climb well, doesn't turn well, and doesn't even dive well (worse than an A8).
I dunno it works for me...about 5:1 kill ratio.
Fw 190F-8 50 1 0 11
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PB 1 (FW 190F-8) are the only dedicated anti-tank rockets (works also like any conventional HE rocket vs objects)
WGR 21 (several German planes) are the only dedicated anti-air rockets (with a timed fuze, but works also as HE vs objects)
All other are general purpose HE rockets.
arent the IL-2s RS-132s AT also? ive killed GVs easily with the RS rockets
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Baumer can you put the file for the gunsites on here please?
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Baumer can you put the file for the gunsites on here please?
Just right click and save as,
Then place in sights folder.
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Nice! Thanks! :banana:
Just right click and save as,
Then place in sights folder.
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I wish there was some kind of "damage table" to look up various damage percentages to fig out what it takes to kill tanks in planes.
There is this page from the trainers site: http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/guns/guns.htm
It won't tell you which rockets kill tanks, but it does help when comparing the different rockets and guns.