Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: BiPoLaR on July 15, 2010, 03:17:22 PM
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If we are going to be forced to have this ENY thing.
At least make it about numbers in flight and not whos on.
Why should we pay for little jimmy leaving the game logged in and mommy made him go clean?
Just my thought.
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what is this ENY people are always talking about???? :t
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Bip, I'd of thought you got over the ENY thing a long time ago. That spixteen has spoiled you man. :P
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+1
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auto-kick longtime afks, problem sorted :aok
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auto-kick longtime afks, problem sorted :aok
That is a good idea, but is there even a way to tell if someone has been in the tower for a couple of hours or spawn camping for a few? Seems to me it'd be hard to implement. The ultimate way around the ENY is not to limit yourself to just the high dollar rides.
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That is a good idea, but is there even a way to tell if someone has been in the tower for a couple of hours or spawn camping for a few? Seems to me it'd be hard to implement. The ultimate way around the ENY is not to limit yourself to just the high dollar rides.
yeah im gonna up and defend with ju88s against a horde because some guys stay logged in just so they can keep a spot in the arena when they get home.
ENY is pointless. It doesnt stop the hording.
This is how i see it. With ENY you create caps issues. how? Because the loyals run to the other arena. With cap issues you create ENY issues. How? by making everyone pile in to that certain arena. It isnt rocket science. 80% of the guys in the MA are loyal to their little chess piece. They refuse to switch to balance out sides. Its just one big snowball effect. All the way down to creating the horde that ENY is supposed to "fix"
Nothing more than my opinion. Not like something will ever be done about caps or ENY. They do nothing more than hinder the players. I guess i felt the need to whine about it.
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Well at least it was some what of a constructive whine... ;) I do agree with what you are saying for the most part.
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Well at least it was some what of a constructive whine... ;) I do agree with what you are saying for the most part.
Things can work out on paper and in idea. But never work out in reality or when its put to use. I know this from being a musician and going to college for architectural engineering. Just because i want to play a song in 4/4 time doesnt mean it will make the song sound the best.
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Im finish carpenter by trade and do work for up-scale home owners. Going from what the customer asked for, to the architect and to the finish product is almost never the same but at least the customer gets what they want in the end, well at least they think they did.... :D
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Your ENY problems can be fixed if you switch countries. Simple alternative. No extra coading for HTC. Afterall, switching to low numbers is encouraged by HTC.
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Your ENY problems can be fixed if you switch countries. Simple alternative. No extra coading for HTC. Afterall, switching to low numbers is encouraged by HTC.
read the above then come post.
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Having an afk timer does not work... there are many ways around them. Not to mention, I can hear the whines now, "I logged in to pink so I can fly with my squad and I got logged off. This isn't unlimited play for $15, I want my money back."
If anything, they should expand eny to account for zones. This way, even if your side has a lot of numbers, you can fly against a larger force in the area and not suffer from ENY at all.
For example, you log on and there is an ENY penalty of 10 for your side. So, you find the biggest pile of red you can find with the smallest green and your ENY penalty is gone. In fact, ENY may even affect the other side if their numbers are high enough for the zone, regardless of the numbers of players they do not have.
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I have the answer.... brace yourselves. Get rid of the arena caps. People stay logged into arenas because all their buddies are there, at least I do. If I have to go run an errand I stay logged on when I get back I can still fly with the boys. Only other answer would be to have country based arena caps would would probably even more cumbersome than the present system.
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The ENY is not perfect that's for sure. But the root of the problem is (like you said), with the country loyal types. The same goes for the cap problem we have to. It really boils down to the players to control both these issues. I don't know how high the eny was when you had to up 88s. I guessing pretty damned high...25+. When it gets that high it's just becomes stupid I agree. But like I say, I really think the ENY is a good tool IF the players cooperate.......which they never do. :(
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If being loyal to your country was not a big deal then HTC could just put an auto balance feature like other games have. Hard to promote squads, winning the war and switching sides to balance the game all at the same time. I like the idea of a country cap, not an arena cap.....
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Yeah, especially when there are single squads with 4-5 "wings"..... :headscratch:
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Bipolar,
I very highly doubt HTC will make any significant changes to curb the effects of ENY. HTC deliberately put ENY out there for game balancing reasons. When a country has significant numbers advantage, along with bases, it would be reasonable and fair to give the low numbers country a chance to defend with lower ENY planes. I also very highly doubt that AFK people have a big impact in ENY. I do agree that people who are AFK for longer than 20 minutes should be kicked. As this would help regulate arena caps, but not ENY.
Given your proposal, lets put this in perspective. Below is a random sample from a given moment of time in any of the arenas:
Knights - Players 150 Flying 135 Bases 30
Rooks - Players 165 Flying 110 Bases 45
Bishops - Players 160 Flying 125 Bases 50
(Let it also be known that those who are not flying does not necessarily mean they are AFK)
This proposal has a flaw in it. As you can see above, Knights are low numbers. But there are more Knights flying in the air than the other two countries. Knights also have the fewest bases controlled on the map. So would it be fair to the Knights to have their ENY nerfed just because they have more pilots flying than the other two countries? No. In fact, it would give the high numbers countries an advantage as more people can quickly re-up their low ENY planes and get an even bigger advantage than they already have. This does not balance gameplay in any way.
The best way to control ENY is actually up to the AH community, not HTC.
1. Can you switch countries? Yes.
2. Do you have to be married to the chess piece? No.
3. Does numbers affect ENY? Yes. And by a significant factor too.
4. Will ENY be affected after you switch countries? Yes.
So IMO the logical conclusion is that it is up to the AH pilots to regulate ENY by switching countries. The problem is that there are a lot of stubborn people who dont want to take the initiative in helping balance gameplay.
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Has anyone every thought of using ENY as a way to force yourself to diversify and learn new planes? Why view it as a reason to switch sides? Take it as a challenge to learn something new. There are some great rides that are hardly every touched by ENY. If I were HTC that is what my reason for ENY would be.
As far as the cap issue is concerned, not trying to hijack it has been mentioned, why not try a country limit? The log in screen could show the number of current number of players per arena as a total then if clicked on would break it down to number of players in each country with its respective cap.
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I don't need eny to diversify. If I feel like flying a different plane I will, or will move tp another arena or log and play pogo.
Semp
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I have the answer.... brace yourselves. Get rid of the arena caps. People stay logged into arenas because all their buddies are there, at least I do. If I have to go run an errand I stay logged on when I get back I can still fly with the boys. Only other answer would be to have country based arena caps would would probably even more cumbersome than the present system.
If that's what you do then we will never see a whine from you about arena caps will we? Nothing prevents your buddies from following you to the other arena that isn't over populated any more than what prevents you from changing countries to avoid the ENY limits.
All the whines about arena caps is nonsense too. It would take about a month of 400+ people on a single arena before the whines about the overpopulation would start. Believe it or not as many people as there are who play on titanic tuesday, there are just as many who either don't log on at all or go to other arenas just to avoid it.
As for country limits, that wouldn't lessen the number of whines either, not for long. As soon as people start getting locked out of their favorite chesspiece because that's where their buddies are, they will whine just like they do now. And if the country limits were enforced by some automated function (because we all know few if any will switch on their own), then the whines about getting auto switched to a different country will start. If ENY and arena caps didn't work at all, neither system would be in place today and HTC has proven repeatedly that if something doesn't work the way it was intended, it gets changed...especially if a better solution is presented.
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Has anyone every thought of using ENY as a way to force yourself to diversify and learn new planes?
that's exactly what I think of it as. I fly the p47d11 now (30 eny?).. I am learning it, and liking it.
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For some I will use smaller words so they are not perceived as whines this time. More simply stated, some folks fly for the community experience...some others fly for mercenary reasons...perkies,score. I fly for the community experience and have made some nice acquaintances over the years. To suggest that because one guy cannot get into the arena the entire rest of the squad should log and follow is just plain dramatic nonsense. I know my squad would however I would never ask them to do so because that is quite selfish. The brief window I fly I want to fly with people I like, so I dislike arena caps.
Because I flew as a bish initially eny was frequently an issue so I really only fly higher eny planes. I don't like eny but I do like the perk bonus. That tool there is effective motivation for the mercenary guys I think.
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that's exactly what I think of it as. I fly the p47d11 now (30 eny?).. I am learning it, and liking it.
most high eny planes are just for hit and run. some come with unlimited ammo like the p47 (ever seen a p47 do a 3 or 4 second burst?). weird how eny gets assigned.
semp
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most high eny planes are just for hit and run. some come with unlimited ammo like the p47 (ever seen a p47 do a 3 or 4 second burst?). weird how eny gets assigned.
semp
Try the Zeek... ;)
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Don't u know only noobs fly zekes
Semp
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Try the Ki-61, ENY of 30, 2 good cannons, better views and speed than most eny 25 planes.
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Guess im an 8 year newb then. Best base defense plane if you ask me.